EOS Telegram Channel History

anna Tripps19:27:44 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

For discussions around referendums please join https://t.me/eosreferendum. The intent behind creating a separate channel is to streamline and promote well thought out referendums within the EOS Community. Also, educate community of different perspective and inform them of the discussions we had in the last 6 months or so.

Thanks for the link

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)19:28:13 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

annatripp

Thanks for the link

🙏😊

Joe Nobody19:43:00 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Brexit just failed 202 Yay, 432 No. A 230 vote deficit

Art Vandalay19:44:06 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe Nobody

Brexit just failed 202 Yay, 432 No. A 230 vote deficit

yay?

Art Vandalay19:44:21 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

You cant more centralised power?

Art Vandalay19:44:30 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

what u doing in crypto?

Joe Nobody19:45:13 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Uh, just forwarding a global news event, haha.

Joe Nobody19:45:35 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Not up for getting sideways about it.

Art Vandalay19:45:38 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

oh, i thought you said "yay" haha

Art Vandalay19:45:43 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sorry bro

Ken Griffith19:45:57 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

exporterimporter

yay?

Yay means the count of yes votes, Art.

Art Vandalay19:46:05 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I realise that now 😄

Joe Nobody19:46:08 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

no worries

Art Vandalay19:46:12 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I knew that tbh

Ken Griffith19:46:14 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

exporterimporter

oh, i thought you said "yay" haha

😂😂😂

Art Vandalay19:46:24 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I just attack globalists

Art Vandalay19:46:28 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

without thinking!

Ken Griffith19:46:40 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Down boy. He's on our side.

Art Vandalay19:46:58 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

yeah..sorry, you ok breh? 🙂

Art Vandalay19:47:08 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

let me take a look at that

Art Vandalay19:47:13 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

feeling seem fine

Art Vandalay19:47:17 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

but ill put a plaster on it

Ken Griffith19:47:22 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Actually, I have no idea what side he is on.

Art Vandalay19:47:32 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hes on ours...right?

Ken Griffith19:48:59 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Given the history, I'm a little surprised there is no officially sanctioned wallet.

Ken Griffith19:49:55 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there anybody trustworthy who vouches for wallets as being valid and free of backdoors?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)19:57:12 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Greymass and Scatter are open source wallets which are trusted by the community members. Majority of the community are using these wallets so you may trust them, or you may use ledgernano with either of the two.

Ken Griffith20:13:32 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

So, I have a friend who bought some eos around the time of the original auction, generated a key-pair before mainnet launched and waited until this week to activate the keypair. Reason is wanted to wait for secure EOS client

Ken Griffith20:14:30 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

After activating his key, he was surprised to find about 40% of his EOS already staked to NET, and 40% staked to CPU and 10% "free". What's the story with that?

Michael Yeates20:15:28 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

the accounts were created with all of it staked except 10 eos

mandn20:22:04 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Is there anybody trustworthy who vouches for wallets as being valid and free of backdoors?

Just use one of the most popular tools to access your EOS on the blockchain. Make sure whatever device you use it on is secure 😉

Nicholas Sacchi20:22:23 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hello. Do any of you guys know where I can find an EOS 2018 recap. Already took a look at the Everything EOS podcast, but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for.

mandn20:23:53 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

After activating his key, he was surprised to find about 40% of his EOS already staked to NET, and 40% staked to CPU and 10% "free". What's the story with that?

He didn’t research what happened when mainnet launched then?

Ken Griffith20:24:39 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

He saw the choas and decided to wait six months to activate.

Ken Griffith20:24:43 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

The keys work fine.

Joe Nobody20:26:45 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Nicholas Sacchi

Hello. Do any of you guys know where I can find an EOS 2018 recap? Already took a look at the Everything EOS podcast, but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for.

Don't think anyone's really curating the entire list of 2018 progress, but EOS New York's medium page has "EOS Echo" reports that are handy. Scroll up and you'll see they just posted #11.

Nicholas Sacchi20:27:35 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Sweet, thx

Corrin20:37:55 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Btc btc btc pm

Joe Nobody20:57:55 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Ethereum's Constantinople fork is being delayed after a reentrancy attack was revealed - doesn't effect mainnet.

j m21:05:20 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

shit coin

j m21:06:02 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

shit vitalik

Ken Griffith21:18:21 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there a way to loan EOS tokens to businesses, without giving complete control of them?

Dan Bendt21:19:21 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Is there a way to loan EOS tokens to businesses, without giving complete control of them?

Multisig would accomplish this, no?

Ken Griffith21:20:24 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

dbendt

Multisig would accomplish this, no?

Could be. I guess what I really meant to ask, is there any kind of market for dapps to borrow EOS tokens?

Dan Bendt21:20:56 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.chintai.io/

Ken Griffith21:21:07 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Could be. I guess what I really meant to ask, is there any kind of market for dapps to borrow EOS tokens?

The broader question is, how can a person put their EOS tokens to productive work?

bitregen21:21:22 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Ken Griffith21:22:09 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

dbendt

https://www.chintai.io/

👍++

Ken Griffith21:22:25 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Chintai exactly what I was looking for.

Joe Nobody21:24:15 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Chintai is exactly what I was looking for.

Your tokens go to a smart contract that is protected by Block Producer's multisig. They don't ever go to another person. They go to the smart contract, have the resources staked on behalf of the borrower for the agreed term, then they automatically return to your wallet at the end of the term.

Joe Nobody21:25:03 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Rates were great end of last year, now it's a borrower's market.

Joe | eoscrashgame.com | got rekt?21:27:14 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Great day to get rekt. We are doing random giveaways in the game. Must be playing to qualify. 🤗 Watch out for falling EOS and falling REKT tokens and try to get as much REKT as you can!

Joe | eoscrashgame.com | got rekt?21:28:18 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe Nobody

Rates were great for lenders end of last year, now it's a borrower's market.

There's only so many resources. The future looks great for the price of eos. 👍

Ken Griffith21:34:24 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Yes, that is very cool. It appears the going annual rate is 1.9 - 2.5%

Ken Griffith21:34:40 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

That is probably the single most useful project on blockchain, other than EOS itself, that I've seen this year.

Ken Griffith21:35:39 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Making a 2% per-anum return denominated in EOS is excellent.

shadow21:38:20 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

eoscrashtest

Great day to get rekt. We are doing random giveaways in the game. Must be playing to qualify. 🤗 Watch out for falling EOS and falling REKT tokens and try to get as much REKT as you can!

I don’t know if it is that great, withdrew EOS, withdraw history confirms it in the cashier, but no EOS on my account, sounds scammy.

Cryptic21:41:35 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Making a 2% per-anum return denominated in EOS is excellent.

It was almost 7-9 percent a couple months ago. The more adoption the healthy returns will come

Dan Bendt21:44:43 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

REX with name auction fees and RAM fees will probably do even better. Pretty compelling reason to keep your tokens staked for always if you can earn interest doing it.

Cryptic21:50:04 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

dbendt

REX with name auction fees and RAM fees will probably do even better. Pretty compelling reason to keep your tokens staked for always if you can earn interest doing it.

Can’t wait for Rex launch

Camilo Rodriguez21:50:36 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Cryptic

Can’t wait for Rex launch

Same feeling

Joe | eoscrashgame.com | got rekt?21:58:49 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

shadowyogi

I don’t know if it is that great, withdrew EOS, withdraw history confirms it in the cashier, but no EOS on my account, sounds scammy.

Ok well I can assure you that we have no intention of scamming you or anyone else. Thank you for coming by and having a look. If you have any questions or concerns please raise them in our telegram and we will track down the issue and have it resolved immediately. 😊 Can you dm me your details and I'll have a look for you?

Joe | eoscrashgame.com | got rekt?21:59:33 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Cryptic

Can’t wait for Rex launch

Rex will be super helpful overall. Chintai is great too. The demand for resources will inevitably increase.

Joe | eoscrashgame.com | got rekt?22:00:12 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

shadowyogi

I don’t know if it is that great, withdrew EOS, withdraw history confirms it in the cashier, but no EOS on my account, sounds scammy.

Dm me your registered account and the txn of your deposit and I'll fix this asap.

Cryptic22:00:44 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What do you guys think of all the side chains and sister chains launching? As an eos mainchain believer is it a good or bad thing I can’t tell? I mean in 7 months we already have 3-4 live

Rami James | Scatter22:01:47 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I think it is great

Evan Shepard | EOS New York22:03:47 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

farfaraway

I think it is great

+1 Every new chain further proves EOSIO use case.

Xavier Riba22:04:32 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Why the name sister chain?

Xavier Riba22:05:06 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Sounds funny

Joe Nobody22:11:18 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Making a 2% per-anum return denominated in EOS is excellent.

Rates in December were close to 30%/annum

Joe Nobody22:11:35 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Making a 2% per-anum return denominated in EOS is excellent.

Rates in December were around 30%+ per annum

Joe Nobody22:12:44 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

They fluctuate so much, APR isn't worth a lot for an actual 1 year outlook

Joe Nobody22:12:56 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

But makes timing the loan an exciting event, haha

PM22:44:16 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Guys

PM22:44:50 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Any EOS activity in Davos/Switzerland during the WEF or the BEF?

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io22:58:28 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2019/1/14/2019-build

sergio23:11:46 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.buzzsprout.com/224288/919447-eos-2019-predictions-with-kevin-rose-of-eos-new-york

Sole One23:12:34 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ser_114

https://www.buzzsprout.com/224288/919447-eos-2019-predictions-with-kevin-rose-of-eos-new-york

Highly recommended, great episode.

Add23:18:37 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is it difficult to claim the telos airdrop?

Sole One23:20:39 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Add

Is it difficult to claim the telos airdrop?

No. You can use Scatter, add Telos network under Networks --> Known Networks. Import your genesis private key and Scatter should be able to look up your Telos account. Then you can use any telos website that supports scatter to e.g. stake or vote and that confirms/activates your account.

hadrian23:21:33 - 15 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Add

Is it difficult to claim the telos airdrop?

Check here @HelloTelos Time's short if you want to get into the 6M block snapshot...

Stat Dude00:15:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What is this BEAM token on chainrift

Aopwie 🇦🇺00:15:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

BTC transaction atm slow for anyone else been waiting 1h16m

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Elias ⚡sense.chat00:27:18 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

kennyTEW2

https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2019/1/14/2019-build

Great piece! 👍 Anyone who wants to pre-order Sense Chat for launch day on your device can do so here: https://my.sense.chat/telegram-download

Eden00:30:19 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Eden00:35:12 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Its not

User000:38:35 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Edenlot

@sandw1ch whats up with the lack of moderation in this channel recently?

Loni Barret01:00:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

User0Crypto

@sandw1ch whats up with the lack of moderation in this channel recently?

It happens sadly

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elvisthecat 猫王01:14:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

军张

各位

@eoscn 🐯

xtendtation - telosintasia01:14:45 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

[SECURITY ALERT] #Constantinople upgrade is temporarily postponed out of caution following a consensus decision by #Ethereum developers, security professionals and other community members. More information and instructions are below. https://t.co/p2znO8HGxf

Corts 🤡🤡01:14:45 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Who decide this things in ETH? The priest of darkness?

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elvisthecat 猫王01:17:24 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

wanghero

有中文群组吗？

@eoscn

Trump Donald01:54:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

elvisthecat

@eoscn

sorry ,this group is not accessible????

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elvisthecat 猫王01:57:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Trump Donald

sorry ,this group is not accessible????

It can, unless u were banned. 🐯

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elvisthecat 猫王02:00:16 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Unbanned u.

Jwin03:27:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Wheres a good place to hire eos devs, or talk about a project idea?

yo ho ji03:29:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

elvisthecat

It can, unless u were banned. 🐯

I am banned by eoscn?

Tyler Moon03:32:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

go over to TRON to talk about a project diea

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鑫鑫姐03:33:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

😄😍

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elvisthecat 猫王03:40:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

yo ho ji

I am banned by eoscn?

Yes too, unbanned u. 🐯

Rebecca Poplewski03:47:32 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Anyone point me in devs direction, I am trying to understand how to (de)serialize process works for "$" and "?" suffix in the ABI.

Kevin03:49:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Rebecca Poplewski

Anyone point me in devs direction, I am trying to understand how the (de)serialize process works for "$" and "?" suffix in the ABI.

For EOS development discussion only (yes, only!). No memes. No prices. No promotion. Violators will be banned. You can share links to tools and projects that assist EOS developers. https://t.me/joinchat/Esi1OkPktgcFeJ3Lmlcrqg

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elvisthecat 猫王03:50:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Rebecca Poplewski

Anyone point me in devs direction, I am trying to understand how the (de)serialize process works for "$" and "?" suffix in the ABI.

PM me 🐯

GregoryHouse04:38:14 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Min04:41:11 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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KAI SEO04:51:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Fuckin ads

Alexspi04:53:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

REX got some more votes 👍😁

Alexspi04:54:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

lets fuel in 10 more million EOS in the coming days 😁😁

KAI SEO04:58:12 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Yay

ian05:00:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

REX got some more votes 👍😁

which REX proposal is that? "Deploying REX with system funds including inflation (excluding BPrewards)"?

Alexspi05:01:21 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Should EOS tokens sent to eosio.ramfee and eosio.names accounts in the future be allocated to REX?

Alexspi05:01:46 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

its the 2nd one on the list

ian05:03:12 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

oh ok

Alexspi05:03:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I dunno why it this proposal only mentions ram fee and eos names

Alexspi05:03:55 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

there is more to rex

Alexspi05:05:45 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

resource fees including RAM Sales,any platform collected Fees, and Name Auctions

Alexspi05:07:12 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

anybody voted for rex?

Jak K05:07:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Trump Donald

this clown hahaha

Saul - TelosVenezuela (tlsvenezuela)06:18:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi everyone, Did you bought your EOS tokens since genesis snapshot and haven’t accessed to your TELOS (EOS sister chain) tokens? In case you do, don’t miss the chance to access your tokens before the TELOS snapshot (aprox Jan 17th 2019), in order to get all the airdrops on TELOS chain as well. If it’s your case, don’t hesitate to PM me and I’ll guide you to this process and help you access and activate your tokens. Or just watch our video tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGPXJJWyucFIWAMcnikwpquoAiaW1D86A

nsjames | Scatter06:48:16 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Right now the WPS (Worker Proposal System) is being voted on via referendum. There are lots of proxies voting with your weight which might not align with your values. Check out the proposal and make sure your vote is counted with your actual vote. This is one of the more important referendums that users have been waiting for vote for for a long time. Express yourself and state whether you are for or against it. You can log in with @Scatter and vote. https://bloks.io/vote/referendums/wps https://eosauthority.com/polls_details?proposal=wps_20190112&lnc=en

Alexspi07:06:17 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

which proposal is for wps?

Alexspi07:07:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

Spread out WPS tokens evenly to everyone?

nsjames | Scatter07:07:51 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

Spread out WPS tokens evenly to everyone?

Nah, that was my "joke referendum" when it first launched. Though I suppose it's valid

nsjames | Scatter07:08:00 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

which proposal is for wps?

It's this one https://bloks.io/vote/referendums/wps

free style07:13:14 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS daily data report: Daily users: 39,218 /-11.68% Daily tranaction Volume：12,395,382.94 /+0.27% Active Dapps: 182 The above data is provided by www.GoDapp.com

Alexspi07:14:14 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

Nah, that was my "joke referendum" when it first launched. Though I suppose it's valid

so 1 million eos to transfer to wps fund for 6 months to develop a project?

Alexspi07:14:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

how much goes to the saving account?

nsjames | Scatter07:15:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

so 1 million eos to transfer to wps fund for 6 months to develop a project?

I think that's supposed to be "test money" for projects in the WPS, not for the actual WPS. Best to read the full doc there.

nsjames | Scatter07:16:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

how much goes to the saving account?

https://bloks.io/account/eosio.saving Looks like about 55m EOS in there right now

Alexspi07:18:53 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

I think that's supposed to be "test money" for projects in the WPS, not for the actual WPS. Best to read the full doc there.

so far 1% goes to pay the bps so we have 4% left over which are for the savings account i would assume

nsjames | Scatter07:19:04 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

so far 1% goes to pay the bps so we have 4% left over which are for the savings account i would assume

Yup.

Alexspi07:19:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

if we use 1% for wps would be good

Alexspi07:19:56 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

then there will be 3 percent left

Alexspi07:20:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

1 percent for emergency operations

Alexspi07:21:22 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

2% left out of 5

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:21:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

1 percent for emergency operations

What are these emergency operations that we require?

Alexspi07:22:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

What are these emergency operations that we require?

just in case there is a hack maybe

Alexspi07:22:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

we would need xtra man power for such an event

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:23:00 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

just in case there is a hack maybe

DPoS will deal with a hack not money

nsjames | Scatter07:23:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

DPoS will deal with a hack not money

I think he's referring to core code hacks

nsjames | Scatter07:23:55 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Or things like bi-monthly security audits of core code

nsjames | Scatter07:23:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

( which would be nice )

Alexspi07:24:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

I think he's referring to core code hacks

yes, need to do research for hacks

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:24:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

I think he's referring to core code hacks

B1 have recently given away another $10k bounty, I believe they are continuing to do this

nsjames | Scatter07:24:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

B1 has never done a public security audit afaik. The only audit that was done on the core code was when the first mainnet launched, and several chinese BPs paid for it out of pocket.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:25:18 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

B1 has never done a public security audit afaik. The only audit that was done on the core code was when the first mainnet launched, and several chinese BPs paid for it out of pocket.

Yes I remember

nsjames | Scatter07:25:31 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Bug bounties shouldn't really be considered audits. Though they are linked. However, relying on B1 shouldn't be the defacto. At some point, their support for mainnet will stop.

Alexspi07:26:16 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

B1 has never done a public security audit afaik. The only audit that was done on the core code was when the first mainnet launched, and several chinese BPs paid for it out of pocket.

but that is B1, we need funds for the eos platform

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:26:39 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

Bug bounties shouldn't really be considered audits. Though they are linked. However, relying on B1 shouldn't be the defacto. At some point, their support for mainnet will stop.

I don’t believe their support for eosio code and improvements will stop until they are fully vested

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:27:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

but that is B1, we need funds for the eos platform

For a security audit? But the funds are going to a committee.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:27:43 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

1 million eos worth

nsjames | Scatter07:28:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

I don’t believe their support for eosio code and improvements will stop until they are fully vested

I don't mean it as "stopping", just divergence from the mainnet. They have a very firm position where non-mainnet chains make them more money anually than mainnet ( which is what their intention always was ), and at some point our mainnet community will decide not to implement something from their repo, which will cause divergences.

nsjames | Scatter07:28:35 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It's not a bad thing

nsjames | Scatter07:28:39 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

it's expected even

Alexspi07:28:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

I don’t believe their support for eosio code and improvements will stop until they are fully vested

it could be less but the 4% inflation is not distributed for anything right now till we find out what we needed for

Alexspi07:30:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

the only thing is the 1% being use to pay the bps

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:30:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

When B1’s support stops, wouldn’t that be the time to arrange such funds?

nsjames | Scatter07:30:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

When B1’s support stops, wouldn’t that be the time to arrange such funds?

I dunno. Do you save up for medical bills now, or when you get sick?

nsjames | Scatter07:31:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Everyone does things differently. We just have to find our own happy medium for each chain.

nsjames | Scatter07:32:02 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

That 4% is WAY too much to have just sitting around. But I don't think having a little rainy day fund is particularly a bad thing. Accessing it properly is a bitch though.

Alexspi07:32:08 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

would be great to see a referendum proposal for the 4% that is left over for how it will get distributed

Alexspi07:33:02 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

maybe get a few different proposals to vote on

nsjames | Scatter07:33:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

At this point eosio.saving is the single best ICO on EOS :P

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:34:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

I dunno. Do you save up for medical bills now, or when you get sick?

We have a referendum platform, so if B1 announces that they will be withdrawing support from providing patches and upgrades for eosio mainnet then we can vote in a solution to cover such an eventuality. Right now they are providing loads of updates, patches and support and they themselves don’t want a WPS, so something doesn’t add up. Also, having a centralised committee manage funds is a bit meh! 🤨

Alexspi07:36:39 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

we could also have the funds in savings and as time goes on have proposals for what is needed like the WPS

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:36:42 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

maybe get a few different proposals on how the 4% will be distributed so users can vote on the best one

There’s a long way to go, but the most popular vote so far is to burn it. Once burned, I guess it starts to fill up again...

nsjames | Scatter07:37:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

I agree, centralized committee is utter crap. Refs take a minimum of 120 days. If there's ever anything critical that we have to wait for B1 to fix with no other way, mainnet is dead. It's the epitome of centralization relying on B1 to issue fixes.

Alexspi07:38:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

There’s a long way to go, but the most popular vote so far is to burn it. Once burned, I guess it starts to fill up again...

i think we should use those funds for potential projects and not burn it

Alexspi07:38:35 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i should vote no for that one

Alexspi07:39:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

bi is a big part of eos but the 4 % left should be decided by the community

nsjames | Scatter07:40:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

There’s a long way to go, but the most popular vote so far is to burn it. Once burned, I guess it starts to fill up again...

And yeah, burning it is super popular. https://eosauthority.com/polls_details?proposal=burnsaving_20190111&lnc=en

Alexspi07:41:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

And yeah, burning it is super popular. https://eosauthority.com/polls_details?proposal=burnsaving_20190111&lnc=en

the problem with burning it...it goes to a frozen account

nsjames | Scatter07:42:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

the problem with burning it...it goes to a frozen account...funds in frozen accounts lock up resources

it's already in a frozen account :P

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:42:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

Good point. On the flipside, they were given $4 billion by the community. That kind of money should probably provide some ongoing support? Having such a well-funded software creator does address

nsjames | Scatter07:43:02 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

"Burning" it will literally have 0 affect on anything unless the eosio.token contract is updated to lower circulating tokens.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:43:53 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

B1 is a big part of eos but the 4 % left should be decided by the community

And it is being 🙂

nsjames | Scatter07:44:02 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

Good point. On the flipside, they were given $4 billion by the community. That kind of money should probably provide some ongoing support? Having such a well-funded software creator does add an element of stability.

I think the way that we the community see that $4b and the way that B1 sees that $4b are very different.

Alexspi07:44:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

it's already in a frozen account :P

not sure, i heard burning the account will go to a frozen account where no one has the private key therefore locking up resources

KK07:45:34 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

anyone can contact yobit direrctly?

nsjames | Scatter07:45:51 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

not sure, i heard burning the account will go to a frozen account where no one has the private key therefore locking up resources

Then the question becomes, why? If all stats still show those tokens as available ( inside stats table on chain ), then it really just moved it from savings to a nullkey account

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:46:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

I think the way that we the community see that $4b and the way that B1 sees that $4b are very different.

If only B1 had a roadmap they would publish 🤔

nsjames | Scatter07:47:23 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

If only B1 had a roadmap they would publish 🤔

😊🤷‍♂️

Alexspi07:47:56 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

Then the question becomes, why? If all stats still show those tokens as available ( inside stats table on chain ), then it really just moved it from savings to a nullkey account ( which can have a key added to it by 2/3+1 )

what you think is the best solution for the use of those funds? just burn it?

nsjames | Scatter07:48:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It's really hard to keep up with roadmaps. I would know :P

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:48:17 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

😊🤷‍♂️

Haha. Exactly 😊

nsjames | Scatter07:48:30 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Sometimes they can be more detrimental by even having them than not.

nsjames | Scatter07:48:39 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

A broken promise is worse than no promise.

shi yi07:48:56 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

分布式币权对冲基金详情了解找我哦！

Alexspi07:49:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i think roadmap by b1 shows centralization...maybe propose on ref. a roadmap for eos

nsjames | Scatter07:49:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Then you end up like Kevin.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:49:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

True, but if they said we will support updates and patches for x years we (the community) could plan

nsjames | Scatter07:50:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

True, but if they said we will support updates and patches for x years we (the community) could plan

I don't really know if they __can__ do that. Mainnet might just be a money burner for them. They would make far more on working with other projects that have to do with the EOSIO software than dealing with mainnet.

nsjames | Scatter07:51:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Even right now, that 100m tokens is really only around $250m. That's nothing.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:51:08 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Instead they want us to burned the WPS, so I can only presume from that that they don’t think we need funds to support the eosio software because they’re doing that

nsjames | Scatter07:51:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

At the end of the day, they are a business with real shareholders.

nsjames | Scatter07:51:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

Instead they want us to burned the WPS, so I can only presume from that that they don’t think we need funds to support the eosio software because they’re doing that

I think it was just Dan that wanted it, not "B1". I could be mistaken though.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:52:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

I think it was just Dan that wanted it, not "B1". I could be mistaken though.

Brendan confirmed a few days ago that he also wants the WPS burned

Branden Espinoza | StrongBlock07:53:21 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

He pulled back on that marginally. He said he thought that it shouldn’t be base layer.

Alexspi07:54:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

b1 should keep crunching updates for eos and bring in new products and projects that can make the platform more valuable...any changes they think is needed to proposed it on ref.

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区块链系统开发公司07:54:35 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

有需要开发区块链公链/区块链交易所/永续合约/区块链社交/手机钱包/量化对冲软件联系13828867935（微信同号）

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:54:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

At the end of the day, they are a business with real shareholders.

I think their plan is for the VCs to bring in the returns for them. An eos token price of $100-1000 wouldn’t be so bad for them either 😎

Alexspi07:54:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

they proposed on ecaf and its working so far

nsjames | Scatter07:55:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

I think their plan is for the VCs to bring in the returns for them. An eos token price of $100-1000 wouldn’t be so bad for them either 😎

Mmm, I think if that happens then resources need to be separated

nsjames | Scatter07:55:19 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

$500 EOS price make for some shitty CPU :)

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:55:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

espinbrand

He pulled back on that marginally. He said he thought that it shouldn’t be base layer.

No, he said burn WPS. ‘Not on base layer’ was about URI

Branden Espinoza | StrongBlock07:58:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

B1 is aware of our proposal. It calls to burn 22 of the 23 MM tokens.

Alexspi07:58:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

Mmm, I think if that happens then resources need to be separated

by that time eos has evolve to cpu-less 😜😜

Branden Espinoza | StrongBlock07:58:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

B1 is also aware that our proposal calls for monthly burns of any accrued 4%.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS07:59:31 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

$500 EOS price make for some shitty CPU :)

Haha, yes, there will be side chains and all sorts of mechanisms in place before we get to that point. $1400 ETH price for showing they could run a shitty 2D picture game at 14tps that ground their network to a holt 😊

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区块链系统开发公司08:00:35 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

有需要开发区块链公链/区块链交易所/永续合约/区块链社交/手机钱包/量化对冲软件联系13828867935（微信同号）

nsjames | Scatter08:02:48 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

😂

Alexspi08:19:11 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

is there any info. about burning the accumulated un-used inflation (4%) in eosio.saving that these funds are not going to lock up resouces instead of using those funds for something useful

Pedro Lemos08:20:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hello how can i unlock my eos token with my private key ? Thanks 😫

Branden Espinoza | StrongBlock08:20:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

is there any info. about burning the accumulated un-used inflation (4%) in eosio.saving that these funds are not going to lock up resouces instead of using those funds for something useful

Yes, there is a active proposal now that both burns and allocates some funds for use.

Alexspi08:21:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Pedro Lemos

Hello how can i unlock my eos token with my private key ? Thanks 😫

you can use scatter and use the wallet on bloks.io or get greymass wallet...more info on allthingseos.com

Alexspi08:23:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

espinbrand

Yes, there is a active proposal now that both burns and allocates some funds for use.

i think there should be a proposal on how to distribute those funds instead of burning it

Pedro Lemos08:24:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

you can use scatter and use the wallet on bloks.io or get greymass wallet...more info on allthingseos.com

Thanks 😉🙏

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io08:24:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.reddit.com/r/eos/comments/agg995/fred_wilson_on_eth_vs_eos_if_ethereum_was_doing/?st=JQYX72C8&sh=4ffa6fb4

Sang | BD | MEET.ONE08:58:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Nice!~

Dane09:42:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Someone speak sense into me. The crypto scene isnt dying is it? I'm seeing this telegram member level drop... the price of any currency is not showing signs of increasing... I'm just lacking the support I once had

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io09:44:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Danedeer

https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2019/1/14/2019-build

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)09:47:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Danedeer

Just the calm before the storm. Read more about the technology use dApplication on top of it, see what problem does this tech solves and if you think this is the right technology to address the problem, it's going to stay if not, just leave and don't listen to anyone.

Dane09:52:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

kennyTEW2

https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2019/1/14/2019-build

I enjoyed this read, thank you. Already involved in a few of these projects

Ar Rana10:04:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there any running airdrop on EOs

GG10:09:49 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Eos vs telos, GO

GG10:10:08 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Mayweather vs Mosley

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io10:13:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Danedeer

I enjoyed this read, thank you. Already involved in a few of these projects

😄glad you enjoyed it! Future looks bright 💪

Simon | Parsl | SEED10:15:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

The timer for the January RewardDrop launched just over 50 hours ago! If you haven't already, head over to eostoolkit.io/dapps/parsl and the simplEOS desktop wallet to stake now! Watch how Staking works here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b1JOhctgs8

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:16:11 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

arranat

Is there any running airdrop on EOS

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS10:17:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

whats the deal with BOS/AC? everyone gets it?

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS10:17:48 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

1:1?

Monica | Starteos10:18:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

BOS/AC Airdrops, one day to GO!!!!!

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:19:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

@HoneyBooBoosMom 👆

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:20:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Just for startEOS wallet users though. Will ask for more details.

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS10:20:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ah.. so i gotta use starteos wallet then

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS10:21:00 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

thanks :)

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io10:23:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What’s BOS chain?

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS10:23:49 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

looks like another eosio chain

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:24:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

kennyTEW2

What’s BOS chain?

boscore.io

biteos10:24:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

kennyTEW2

What’s BOS chain?

heard they were backed by huobi, don't know if it's true.

Ar Rana10:24:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

BOS/AC Airdrops, one day to GO!!!!!

how to get this airdrop?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:25:45 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

biteos

heard they were backed by huobi, don't know if it's true.

Well Houbi is one of the BP on the network.

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:26:21 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

arranat

how to get this airdrop?

For tomorrow's airdrop you need to get StartEOS wallet.

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io10:29:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

biteos

heard they were backed by huobi, don't know if it's true.

The team gets 20% of the supply 😂

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS10:29:32 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

yea.. not liking it already

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS10:29:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

anyone ever use starteos wallet?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:32:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

400 million for eco-bounty. 🤔

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io10:33:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

And partners get 10% so these “partners” are probably the team, they can’t be serious with this? They even say the partners portion will be used to cover the cost of BOS operations

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io10:34:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

400 million for eco-bounty. 🤔

Yeah what is that?

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io10:35:42 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I hope we don’t see too many of these poorly thought out chains, reminds me of eth ico

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy10:50:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://cryptonomist.ch/en/2019/01/16/eos-decentralised-referendum-system/

mandn11:01:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://cryptoweekly.co/100/

Mila - PatentTX (PTX) - Patenttx.com11:15:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi Admin, can I get information about new updates and announcements?

Dane11:16:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What is the best platform to write articles or blogs on cryptocurrency, EOS in particular?

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS11:19:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Danedeer

What is the best platform to write articles or blogs on cryptocurrency, EOS in particular?

trybe.one is built on eos

Thierry - EOS Nation's Ambassador11:22:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

A terrorist attack hit Nairobi yesterday afternoon. The whole EOS Nairobi team, there friends and families are safe an alive ! 🙏

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS11:25:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mila_23

Hi Admin, can I get information about new updates and announcements?

https://t.me/eosLAUNCHbyTHEwire https://t.me/theEOSwriter https://t.me/eosheadline https://t.me/EOS_Podcasts https://t.me/EOSDAPPSTARS

Thierry - EOS Nation's Ambassador11:27:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Thierry_Stoudmann

A terrorist attack hit Nairobi yesterday afternoon. The whole EOS Nairobi team, there friends and families are safe an alive ! 🙏

Give them your support by voting for there team as BP. We need some masternodes in Africa.

Mila - PatentTX (PTX) - Patenttx.com11:27:24 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

HoneyBooBoosMom

https://t.me/eosLAUNCHbyTHEwire https://t.me/theEOSwriter https://t.me/eosheadline https://t.me/EOS_Podcasts https://t.me/EOSDAPPSTARS

Thank you

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS11:27:48 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

😁

Michael11:29:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi hoping someone can help. I have linked my ledger nano s to scatter wallet and was able to get the public key however when I try to send tokens between my account I get error saying 'account does not exist' and ideas on how to resolve this?

Montrix11:35:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

Just for startEOS wallet users though. Will ask for more details.

Can you give info?

Bob Frank11:37:00 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I checked starteos which is a bit rubbish really but you only get 1 for every 20eos you hold

Corrin11:38:48 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Buy/Sell. Pm

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)11:44:03 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Montrix23

Can you give info?

@starteos_io

Crypto Tim11:45:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS Royale - Provably Fair Roulette https://youtu.be/TK7kto5Mu-Q

Kamal11:45:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kamal: Kamal: buy #zil now upward start just now may rise up to 80 %

Susen MEET.ONE | cpubaole.com12:02:04 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

MEET.ONE wallet already update new functions today. You can slide and trade tokens directly in the token list. Welcome to try

sergio12:15:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2019/1/14/2019-build

Tom Fu | GenerEOS | eostoolkit.io12:19:12 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What is an EOS Side Chain? + @MeetDotOne announces they will launch their own Side Chain 😀 Here's my latest video explaining Side Chains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc45kdqsUUo&feature=youtu.be

Liviu Craciun12:30:08 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Caan anyone please send me an updated list with upcoming airdrops/projects on EOS?

Camilo Rodriguez13:23:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Soleone

Thanks !

Brian-EOSAmsterdam13:26:23 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/WInidncYM6I

Noah13:58:45 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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James21213:59:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/WInidncYM6I

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)14:01:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

kennyTEW2

Yeah what is that?

subsudy to dApplications using resources must be by funding them. (I haven't read the white paper)

Kenny - www.theeoswriter.io14:03:37 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

subsudy to dApplications using resources must be by funding them. (I haven't read the white paper)

Yeah I don’t like the sound of it at all but everyone is free to experiment ✌️

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)14:04:12 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

kennyTEW2

Yeah I don’t like the sound of it at all but everyone is free to experiment ✌️

true.

Old Man14:32:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Randomnobody

A broken promise is worse than no promise.

B1's level of communication and engagement with the community and bps over the past 7-8 months has been completely unacceptable. Personally I think Dan is only reason there hasn't been more backlash. They took $4bn from the community, launched mainnet mvp and dried up. The community has been left to bootstrap critical infrastructure using marginal resources and flounder around attempting to create some type of governance without any meaningful tools or guidence. B1 is the wealthy parent and EOSIO is the newborn infant they left on the doorstep of the orphanage. The community was pitched an active and supportive parent that would provide guidence, resources and tools to help EOSIO crawl, walk and run before stepping back and letting mainnet go off to college and take on the world. IMHO B1 has failed spectacularly to fufill the social contract it premised the token sale on.

GG14:33:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Douglas Horn | GoodBlock.io: Many groups in Telos will develop apps but I doubt there will ever be a warchest like b1 has. Of course, b1 doesn't actually use their warchest. It's possible that the GoodGrants will end up being more effective.

GG14:33:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Agree or disagree?

Darth Fud14:34:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Agree

Darth Fud14:35:19 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I dont get the point of Telos

Darth Fud14:35:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Like Why?

GG14:39:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

DarthFud

Like Why?

The answer is "just bcos"

Lenny | EOS Nation14:40:12 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

The WEOS campaign have started! First the first time, a community can vote ON chain for the future decisions and the route the chain will take. Your voice is important. We vote! WEOS! https://youtu.be/WInidncYM6I

Old Man14:43:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

dpggio

Anyone who participated in the token sale should feel very dissapointed in B1's performance to date - the damage to market share, adoption, public relations etc. has been massive. There has been far more fud than positive news, and given B1's resources that is completely absurd. Justin/Tron VB/ETH are absolutely eating B1's lunch with nothing more than twitter and a shitcoin. It's ridiculous. B1 should have been releasing front-end functionality like wallet, voting, etc. at mainnet launch or very shortly after, should be highly active and publicly engaging east and west communities on development and governance, should be actively participating in bp and referendum voting, should be pumping out UIs, and should be providing clear and unambiguous information on product and mainnet roadmaps. And we sure as hell shouldn't have to watch Brendan blatantly ducking direct questions about where the money is and what it is being used for. Functional, sustainable decentralized ecosystems don't just pop out of the ground and flourish organically. They need to be nourished and grown to critical mass by benevolent and deep-pocketed sponsors - which is what the community that donated billions thought they were creating in B1. So far, eight months later, the vision we bought into and the vision delivered could not be further apart.

telemethebot14:43:11 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

`Reminder: This isn't a price/trading discussion, please read group rules to avoid ban.`

Old Man14:43:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

telemethebot

Reminder: This isn't a price/trading discussion, please read group rules to avoid ban.

Is this a bot?

Old Man14:44:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Cause there ain't anything about price or trading in that post

Sandwich14:44:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Yes

Old Man14:45:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Funny thx

Sandwich14:45:49 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

Anyone who participated in the token sale should feel very dissapointed in B1's performance to date - the damage to market share, adoption, public relations etc. has been massive and the opportunity to hit the ground running hard has been squandered. There has been far more fud than positive news, and given B1's resources that is completely absurd. Justin/Tron VB/ETH are absolutely eating B1's lunch with nothing more than twitter and a shitcoin. It's ridiculous. B1 should have been releasing front-end functionality like wallet, voting, etc. at mainnet launch or very shortly after, should be highly active and publicly engaging east and west communities on development and governance, should be actively participating in bp and referendum voting, should be pumping out UIs, and should be providing clear and unambiguous information on product and mainnet roadmaps. And we sure as hell shouldn't have to watch Brendan blatantly ducking direct questions about where the money is and what it is being used for. Functional, sustainable decentralized ecosystems don't just pop out of the ground and flourish organically. They need to be nourished and grown to critical mass by benevolent and deep-pocketed sponsors - which is what the community that donated billions thought they were creating in B1. So far, eight months later, the vision we bought into and the vision delivered could not be further apart.

1. Market share has remained consistent 2. 164 repositories, 5 hackathons, an a flourishing network 3. There's a lot of "shoulds" that assume that a company can scale overnight, somehow acquiring hundreds of developers and onboarding them in minutes in order to meet the expectations you've set here.

Kevin Rose - EOS New York14:46:11 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS New York has transitioned to a bare metal infrastructure for block production. We are now among the fast Block Producers globally. https://medium.com/eos-new-york/eos-new-york-transitions-block-production-to-bare-metal-infrastructure-2047de226237

GG14:47:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

Anyone who participated in the token sale should feel very dissapointed in B1's performance to date - the damage to market share, adoption, public relations etc. has been massive and the opportunity to hit the ground running hard has been squandered. There has been far more fud than positive news, and given B1's resources that is completely absurd. Justin/Tron VB/ETH are absolutely eating B1's lunch with nothing more than twitter and a shitcoin. It's ridiculous. B1 should have been releasing front-end functionality like wallet, voting, etc. at mainnet launch or very shortly after, should be highly active and publicly engaging east and west communities on development and governance, should be actively participating in bp and referendum voting, should be pumping out UIs, and should be providing clear and unambiguous information on product and mainnet roadmaps. And we sure as hell shouldn't have to watch Brendan blatantly ducking direct questions about where the money is and what it is being used for. Functional, sustainable decentralized ecosystems don't just pop out of the ground and flourish organically. They need to be nourished and grown to critical mass by benevolent and deep-pocketed sponsors - which is what the community that donated billions thought they were creating in B1. So far, eight months later, the vision we bought into and the vision delivered could not be further apart.

Sure, so.. telos, go copy the protocol, market it as being different, and innovate without any resources. Nice cash grab boyz.

Sandwich14:49:27 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

Anyone who participated in the token sale should feel very dissapointed in B1's performance to date - the damage to market share, adoption, public relations etc. has been massive and the opportunity to hit the ground running hard has been squandered. There has been far more fud than positive news, and given B1's resources that is completely absurd. Justin/Tron VB/ETH are absolutely eating B1's lunch with nothing more than twitter and a shitcoin. It's ridiculous. B1 should have been releasing front-end functionality like wallet, voting, etc. at mainnet launch or very shortly after, should be highly active and publicly engaging east and west communities on development and governance, should be actively participating in bp and referendum voting, should be pumping out UIs, and should be providing clear and unambiguous information on product and mainnet roadmaps. And we sure as hell shouldn't have to watch Brendan blatantly ducking direct questions about where the money is and what it is being used for. Functional, sustainable decentralized ecosystems don't just pop out of the ground and flourish organically. They need to be nourished and grown to critical mass by benevolent and deep-pocketed sponsors - which is what the community that donated billions thought they were creating in B1. So far, eight months later, the vision we bought into and the vision delivered could not be further apart.

Something you're also not considering is this: If B1 just released a ton of apps that competed with the community, the complaints would be "B1 is squashing all competition"

Marlon - Qubicles | Sqrl | EOS Miami14:51:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

eosnewyork

EOS New York has transitioned to a bare metal infrastructure for block production. We are now among the fastest Block Producers globally. https://medium.com/eos-new-york/eos-new-york-transitions-block-production-to-bare-metal-infrastructure-2047de226237

Looks very solid 👍👍

Dat Lu14:51:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Agree , i think B1 dapps already done a few. But somehow Dan hold them back and wait for Dapps from 3rd party to grow a bit more

Old Man14:51:27 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

1. Market share has remained consistent 2. 164 repositories (of which Telos benefits from), 5 hackathons, and a flourishing network 3. There's a lot of "shoulds" that assume that a company can scale overnight, somehow acquiring hundreds of developers and onboarding them in minutes in order to meet the expectations you've set here.

1. Market share should be increasingly drastically and independent of BTC 2. Zero official wallets or voting tools 3. None of the shoulds I've listed require scaling. Scatter, greymass, dice, bps etc. have done exponentially more community engagement and communication than B1... with far less resources and manpower at their disposal. Now we have Brendan fluffing about 'Q1ish' for a wallet-that-isn't-just-a-wallet but zero zilch nada in official press releases. They have hundreds of people and are burning millions and so far all the community has to work with is random telegram/twitter comments?

GG14:51:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

Something you're also not considering is this: If B1 just released a ton of apps that competed with the community, the complaints would be "B1 is squashing all competition"

Sandwich it's ok, I think better dapps will be implemented in telos first. COUGH

Kevin Rose - EOS New York14:51:43 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

qubicles

Looks very solid 👍👍

Thanks Marlon.

Old Man14:51:55 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

Something you're also not considering is this: If B1 just released a ton of apps that competed with the community, the complaints would be "B1 is squashing all competition"

I feel extremely confident that no one who donated to the token sale would share that sentiment

FinancialFreedomFighter14:52:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi folk! Feel free to checkout, like, share and spread the good EOS news after viewing my new free Self-Help EOS page, 'The EOS AID'. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgx-rZLfeKWotcgAk_bwjag https://facebook.com/theeosaid Let's get EOS fast-tracked for mass adoption and get folk on board as easy as possible! Thanks all!

Sandwich14:52:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

I feel extremely confident that no one who donated to the token sale would share that sentiment

Lots of hyperbole there

Joe Nobody14:53:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Transaction delays are possible, no? Is it possible to instruct a transaction to perform say 30 days later?

George Olivia14:53:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Any UK/EU coinbase acc holder should pm. I want to use your cb acc to purchase btc. Which requires you giving me access to the acc. If your interested I'll give you 30% of whatever btc i buy with your acc. Only serious people pls.

FinancialFreedomFighter14:53:49 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

How do I share a link here? I see others posting links above but my post disappears when trying??

Sandwich14:53:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe Nobody

Transaction delays are possible, no? Is it possible to instruct a transaction to perform say 30 days later?

Yes, deferred transactions.

FinancialFreedomFighter14:53:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgx-rZLfeKWotcgAk_bwjag

Sandwich14:54:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

WraggSD

How do I share a link here? I see others posting links above but my post disappears when trying??

Only people who have been here for a while can share links.

FinancialFreedomFighter14:54:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Ah gotcha cheers mate

Old Man14:54:32 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

Lots of hyperbole there

B1 pumping out killer dapps that disrupt the status quo and scale globally to increase personal freedoms (life, liberty, free markets) is precisely the vision token sale contributors were pitched, with B1 taking the lead as a well funded and financially independent dapp development power house

telemethebot14:54:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

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FinancialFreedomFighter14:54:34 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Ive created a totally free to use, EOS self help youtube and fbook page thats all.

FinancialFreedomFighter14:55:00 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Gearing to get more on board as smoothly and efficiently as possible. Im committing a ton of time to EOS right now

Sandwich14:55:27 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

This is under the assumption that the entire community are speculators, I'm fairly certain independent developers have a different perspective, and they are somewhat critical for network effect.

Joe Nobody14:56:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

Yes, deferred transactions.

Would it be possible to trigger have a deferred trx that requires a second action to be processed? Ex: Tranches of payment to a developer over a period of say a year, with every day a 30-day deferred trx executing to pay the dev? However, something that could be done to stop that trx from executing based on community votes? I know I'm probably well into the weeds on that topic, not terrible simple.

Joe Nobody14:58:37 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

To remove authority of 1 user approving or disapproving the payment.

Joe Nobody14:59:51 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Perhaps a multisig contract is as simple as that could get.

Joe Nobody15:01:32 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Trying to think of how to automate developer payment on chain through mechanisms possible within EOS, but if it's a community-funded project, the community could signal pay/no pay

Old Man15:02:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

This is under the assumption that the entire community are speculators, I'm fairly certain independent developers have a different perspective, and they are somewhat critical to network effect.

I'm sure independent developers, who are pouring time and resources into creating products on EOSIO, would very much prefer to have a large userbase onboarded via an official wallet, active and efficient goverance via simple voting tools in an official wallet, and clear guidance from B1 on what products they are releasing. How are these independent developers going to feel when they discover their killer dapp is suddenly released by B1? This is like Apple encouraging independent devs to develop hardware using their design language and specs while simulataneously developing and releasing new hardware products internally. It's absurd.

Sandwich15:02:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

I'm not exactly sure when your vendetta started, but here's what I've seen: The growing of an extremely talented and skilled team, insanely positive events that result in bringing talented and motivated developers into the ecosystem, the rapid growth of a company (which in itself takes time, as you grow, you require operational adjustments to keep everything running, this is ten-fold when growing quickly), addressing any critical issues in usually less than 24 hours and funding bug-bounties that effectively protect all production EOSIO networks (including telos). "Pumping out killer dapps" isn't something that just happens magically and overnight, either, unless of course they are propreitary and are of absolutely no benefit to the open source community. So every layer of these "killer dapps" needs to be identified and developed, and then released to the community. It levels the playing field.

Sandwich15:03:42 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

Do you know the usage stats on bitcoind wallet?

Sandwich15:04:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

...I don't either, but they make up a very tiny selection of the bitcoin userbase.

Sandwich15:04:31 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

the "official wallet" is our demise arguments always seems to be a red herring.

Old Man15:07:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

...I don't either, but I speculate* they make up a very tiny piece of the bitcoin userbase.

Was there for the birth of BTC and bitcoin core =/ EOSIO, no social contract, no token sale, no big corp selling a vision to collect funds. I don't hold Satoshi and core devs to a social contract because they didn't get funded by selling a vision to a community

Ricardo Marliere15:09:42 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

but they didnt sell anything 🙈

Sandwich15:13:17 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It's ok, it's doesn't imply motive when someone ignores all positive points and picks on a speculative side-note that has no means to be proven or disproven. Completely healthy conversation.

СМ

Сергей Мансер15:13:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Old Man15:17:08 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

Not a vendetta but trying to reconcile words (pre-launch) and actions (eight months later). I haven't asked for delivery of killer dapps, but I sure as hell want to know what's in the pipeline. I have asked, and continue to bitch loudly, for official tools to help folks be confident in interacting with their tokens and participating in goverance. The fact that these official tools - in gui form - are not yet accessible by the community is absurd. Imagine for a moment B1 had released a simple - gui - wallet with voting functionality within a month of mainnet launch. Where would be today? The hackathons, vc funding, mainnet code/performance updates etc. are great and as expected. What is not expected is B1 circling the wagons on product development, not producing official wallet/voting tools, not participating in goverance, not producing the token sale audit, dodging questions on use and status of token sale funds etc.

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Old Man15:19:43 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

It's ok, it's doesn't imply motive when someone ignores all positive points and picks on a speculative side-note that has no means to be proven or disproven. Completely healthy conversation.

My points are pretty simple: 1. The community should have an official wallet w/voting, not having this months ago has retarded adoption and goverance 2. B1 should be clearly communicating product development and gross strategy with the community 3. B1 should be actively participating in voting and governance

Piccolo15:25:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.binance.je/?ref=35014810

Dat Lu15:26:22 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

We are not b1... We dun know wat they think. Of course they working hard too. But i agree if B1 come out, vote, and guide the road more

R-

Robrigo - EOS Detroit15:26:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS Detroit's nodes have been patched to mitigate this vulnerability. https://medium.com/@peckshield/eos-transaction-congestion-attack-attackers-could-paralyze-eos-network-with-minimal-cost-9adfb4d16c82

R-

Robrigo - EOS Detroit15:26:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

A vote for EOS Detroit is a vote for a secure network.

Dat Lu15:26:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

A lot of suprise will come after rex... I believe

Jvlvarez15:26:55 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Just seen a YouTube video about Telos. Can someone educate me on this? Kinda lost.

R-

Robrigo - EOS Detroit15:27:34 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

jvlvarez

Just seen a YouTube video about Telos. Can someone educate me on this? Kinda lost.

Check out @hellotelos

Noah15:28:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Noah15:29:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Noah15:29:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

hello

Brendan Blumer16:00:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi Oldman, thanks for your feedback - it never falls on deaf ears with me. Since releasing the first version of EOSIO just seven months ago the protocol has seen a series of technical upgrades on a monthly, and often even weekly basis. We are very sensitive to the amount of value that resides on EOSIO chains, and our team works overtime to meet the needs of issues and feedback stemming from June’s launch of a such a large new code base, as well as R&D and implementation around future initiatives like inter-blockchain communication, which EOSIO has been designed for since the beginning, and can be fundamentally transformative for blockchain capabilities if done correctly and practically. Governance is tricky and subjective, but our decision has been to look at things carefully and publish findings and feedback without being a centralizing force working contrary to EOS’s core values; as you may know, we are preparing to suggest a series of governance and technical upgrades to EOSIO, but we will not unilaterally force the hand of change. Regarding our capital, we have already made a public commitment of 1,000,000,000 USD to funding projects and businesses leveraging EOSIO through our EOS VC program; this outsizes many of the most well-know venture funds in the world today; many discussions and successful investments already occurred in 2018 through our GP partners Mike Novogratz, SVK, Finlab, EOS Global, and others. We have not limited our commitment to EOS VC at one billion USD, but additional capitalization before it can be realistically invested, and before analysis of performance of specific GP’s is available, would be unhealthy. Outside of EOS VC, Block.one has been transparent that we retain a multi-billion USD treasury that is funding our global growth and entry into the application layer of EOSIO opportunities. As we do this, we’ve had to think carefully about which verticals we enter and how to do it in a way that preserves the decentralized integrity of the community, whilst avoiding alienating groups of the community already competing in those sectors - but we’ve made big progress here and are preparing to introduce upcoming products. I ask for your patience as B1 continues to lay infrastructure for healthy growth so that it can meet the ever-increasing expectations of our EOSIO communities; we are as committed as always and getting stronger by the day, but I know patience sucks, so we’ll keep on racing. ❤️B

T78-Into the Abyss16:03:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

wen B1 Wallet?

R-

Robrigo - EOS Detroit16:07:54 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Good things take time.

Jonathan Bahai16:10:11 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

robrigo

Good things take time.

Brooks law.. nine women can't make a baby in one month.

telemethebot16:11:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Joe Nobody16:13:30 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Cheers! Since B1 has been active in voicing their opinions, including removing 4% inflation and WPS. I'd like to casually submit a project for Block one to consider since it may be a large effort for the community to sponsor on its own: Instead of a WPS: The community could utilize an EOS crowdfunding platform that allows users to connect their own tokens directly to EOS projects they believe are interesting and exciting instead of diluting the total EOS token supply with system inflation. A crowdfunding platform on EOS could further remove ambiguity as to exactly who or what type of future user is interested in the project and how to best cater development to their users. There are many platforms outside of cryptocurrency that do this and have been successful at funding projects for years; e.g., Kickstarter, GoFundMe, IndieGoGo, JD, Taobao, and Xiaomi.

Joe Nobody16:14:32 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

😁

MaxDapp16:14:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TakjOeeCv8&t=2670s

Joe Nobody16:15:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe Nobody

Organic ebb and flow of development and demand is more desirable than attempts to artificially stimulate growth through inflation and a worker proposal fund. Developers can use common entrepreneurial tactics to build and develop their own projects; e.g., relationship building, marketing efforts, requests for community sponsorships and more. Projects that do not receive funding can reveal a natural mechanism that guages community interest in the project or the developer's ability to perform competitevly as an entrepreneur.

glue dog - BillionaireToken.com16:19:22 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Don't forget guys and gals, we have a dedicated channel for all your EOS drama related issues: https://t.me/eosdrama (Your daily dose of Drama - Powered by the EOS blockchain). Each day a new pin will represent the "Drama of the day".

hadrian16:22:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Mikeybris

Did anyone answer this? So you got a public key from your ledger. Has this been set as the public key for an actual eos account? You can change the key of an existing eos account to the key from your ledger. Or you can create a new account with the key from your ledger.

DataJunky | GenerEOS16:41:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Don't forget to avoid VOTE DECAY by voting once a week. If you vote once a month you will lose approximately 4% of your voting power. If you set a proxy, you need to reset the proxy occassionally too. Click here to vote through the eoswatchdogs proxy to vote for the top 30 hardest working, most deserving Block Producers on the network: https://bloks.io/vote/proxies?name=eoswatchdogs Don't forget to join the conversations and help us to keep an eye on the EOS network! We need all the watchdogs we can get! @eoswatchdogs

DataJunky | GenerEOS16:41:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kam5706

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Who's got the ban hammer?

DataJunky | GenerEOS16:42:29 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Fuble

Right on, more firepower added to EOS. Meet.one is making big waves.

Q | @thatdappguy16:46:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/y5WoFp-HhQQ

Q | @thatdappguy16:47:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hey guys, back with another episode of the Roundtable. Not much on EOS this week, aside from the referendum. Who would you guys want to come on the podcast weekly to give 4-5 min EOS update?

Mike Manderfeen16:50:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there a sister-chain sign up guide? Something that tells you how and what sister chains to sign up for?

Lina Gordeeva16:58:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

best Eos

DataJunky | GenerEOS17:02:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

thatdappguy

Hey guys, back with another episode of the Roundtable. Not much on EOS this week, aside from the referendum. Who would you guys want to come on the podcast weekly to give 4-5 min EOS update?

I'd like to see @Lisa24121996 come talk about EOS

R-

Rick Schlesinger - EOS New York17:05:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Thank you, Brendan.

DataJunky | GenerEOS17:11:19 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Good to hear this. Sounds to me like B1 is doing a lot more behind the scenes to benefit the community and in a responsible way too. It's great to keep us informed as we progress, even slowly, as it's never good to keep us in the dark, where speculation always turns negative. Thanks Brendan

Christopher S17:25:04 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Probably safer not to claim telos tokens then to risk being scammed , right ?

Charles17:26:37 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS02

Probably safer not to claim telos tokens then to risk being scammed , right ?

https://colintalkscrypto.com/eosio_offline_active_key_changer/

DataJunky | GenerEOS17:26:53 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS02

Probably safer not to claim telos tokens then to risk being scammed , right ?

You can safely claim telos. I recommend changing your EOS genesis keypair first, and secure your eos by resetting your private keys for owner and active. I have my account set up like this: I use a alarm bot to notify me of any activity on my account name. @EOSAlarmEBot Owner permission has a private key / Public key (cold storage, paperwallet, safety deposit box buried 6 feet deep) Active permission has a separate keypair (used for everyday activities connecting to dapps etc etc) If my everyday activities (ACTIVE keys) ever get me in trouble and my keys are compromised, I can dig up my owner keys and "change the locks" on my active permission. (https://eostoolkit.io/account/permissions) If you have your tokens STAKED then you have the added security of 3 days (72 hours) to change your keys before a hacker can move your tokens off your account.

Christopher S17:28:16 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hey thanks so much for your help, I appreciate it .

Kevin Rose - EOS New York17:34:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://medium.com/eos-new-york/a-voluntaristic-approach-to-the-eos-worker-proposal-fund-1b2a94dad20b

nsjames | Scatter17:35:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

Something you're also not considering is this: If B1 just released a ton of apps that competed with the community, the complaints would be "B1 is squashing all competition"

This

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https://youtu.be/UHs3Y8uYbys

Thierry - EOS Nation's Ambassador17:56:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://twitter.com/eosradiolive/status/1084975598454288384?s=12

Thierry - EOS Nation's Ambassador17:56:13 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Thierry - EOS Nation's Ambassador17:57:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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GoogleDark🇺🇸18:04:46 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Gillette will not be pleased.😡😂

They obviously don’t care about sales anymore given they attacked all their customers

G18:06:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hey dudes What is EOSNation ?

G18:06:46 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

How are they?

Joe Nobody18:07:19 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

eosnewyork

https://medium.com/eos-new-york/a-voluntaristic-approach-to-the-eos-worker-proposal-fund-1b2a94dad20b

🧐💪👍

Carmelo Milián | GYMBase.io CEO18:15:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Guys if you have new EOS tokens that need an airdrop we at GYMBase .io are willing to do them for free.

Ruslan Krapivin18:19:47 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

cmilian

Guys if you have new EOS tokens that need an airdrop we at GYMBase .io are willing to do them for free.

cool

İlker | abcc.com18:22:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It's a shame for the eos. little boy teases you

İlker | abcc.com18:22:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

From Tommy Mustache

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy18:22:11 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Nice

telemethebot18:33:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Ron Zee18:39:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

folks

Ron Zee18:39:54 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I have some simple and maybe dumb questions about EOS

Ron Zee18:39:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

can any help me pls

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)18:40:39 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Sure. Bring them on.

James21218:41:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/-TakjOeeCv8

Frankin Footer18:48:16 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Tron is similar to EOS except it doesn’t work.

Hustle Crypto18:48:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

fuutlong

Tron is similar to EOS except it doesn’t work.

and it doesnt have block rewards at a code level

Hustle Crypto18:48:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

so therefore not a real blockchain

Ron Zee18:50:31 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

Sure. Bring them on.

why many project are forking EOSIO mainnet software and doing their own DAPP (if I can name it so) ? Usually projects do it to change the way the initial software works. Is it the same here? (Say like Shift is a fork of Lisk?)

Ron Zee18:51:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

is the initial EOSIO software not flexible enough so they do it?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)18:57:46 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ronzakkery

EOSIO is an open source code, any one could fork the code and start their own project with different tweaks or governance methodology. Like EOS using 1 token:30 votes, EOSForce use 1 token:1 vote and TLOS uses inverse weighted voting. Unlike other blockchain forks where community divides, EOSIO forks or "sisterchains" empowers the ecosystem with different iteration and developments. Having said that EOS is flexible enough to add the features of other forks if community is willing to propose and include them. The fast they develop the stronger EOS gets.

Ron Zee18:59:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

excuse my ignorance, but EOS is dPOS+aBFT (as I got it) and that horizontal scaling and interconnectivity that will allow sister chains to work together will be possible by aBFT part?

Ron Zee19:03:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

in other words what makes that empowerment possible?

Ron Zee19:03:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

if not aBFT, what does the combo of dPoS+aBFT allows?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)19:17:47 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ronzakkery

in other words what makes that empowerment possible?

IBC(Inter Blockchain communication) would help connecting different chains. BFT helps in reaching finality which inturns helps in IBC. DPOS is Delegated Proof of Stakes, which enables stakeholders to vote in few BPs, and delegate them trust to produce blocks. dPOS including with BFT, helps solving "two general problem" with trusted nodes having cryptographic proof of someone trying to temper with some kind of information in a block. In case of breach, the BP who try to temper with the information in a block will get voted out by the community.

Ron Zee19:23:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

thanks a lot for the explanation

Alexspi19:23:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Can an admin pin this message for users who have questions on what B1 is doing so to eliminate fud or possible drama intensifying

ian19:26:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

Can an admin pin this message for users who have questions on what B1 is doing so to eliminate fud or possible drama intensifying?

Good idea

G19:28:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

do anyone have actual road map of EOS project?

G19:30:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

for 2019

Alexspi19:31:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ivanvasilich

do anyone have actual road map of EOS project?

The community should provide some roadmaps to vote on including one from B1

G19:32:17 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

any ETA?

Ron Zee19:36:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

I have another dumb question: At the moment EOS mainnet allows ~4800 TPS. What will allow millions of tps?

Ron Zee19:37:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

as stated in EOS FAQ

Florin Vw19:41:02 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

"dubito ergo cogito, cogito ergo sum, sum ergo EOS est" 😉

Alexspi19:42:04 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ronzakkery

I have another dumb question: At the moment EOS mainnet allows ~4800 TPS. What will allow millions of tps?

Unlimited scaling to the main net but hard to tell because in the future EOS will have many side chains which most of those transactions are going to be done outside of main net

Ron Zee19:42:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ok, but how will that unlimited scalability be achieved ?

Old Man19:45:47 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Since releasing the first version of EOSIO just seven months ago the protocol has seen a series of technical upgrades on a monthly, and often even weekly basis. Maintenance and upgrading EOSIO was a key component of the pitch/social contract that underpinned the token sale and B1 has certainly delivered, no arguments there. However, the community, bps and third party devs deserve a coherent roadmap outlining what functionality is being worked on and what order things are going to be rolled out. Dates are not important but overall development strategy is absolutely critical knowledge for a nascent decentralized tech trying to build out core infrastructure and scale globally. Rationalizing the lack of a roadmap with ‘no promises, no disappointments might fly for a three-man startup working out of a garage, but is completely unacceptable – particularly in this point of the development cycle – for an organization like B1. There is no excuse for B1 not to be public and transparent on mainnet development strategy, meaning a published and regularly updated forward-looking document that clearly outlines current priorities and anticipated rollout. I'm sure the feedback from bps and independent devs on a mainnet roadmap would be incredibly valuable in helping B1 focus development resources.

Old Man19:46:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Governance is tricky and subjective, but our decision has been to look at things carefully and publish findings and feedback without being a centralizing force working contrary to EOS’s core values; as you may know, we are preparing to suggest a series of governance and technical upgrades to EOSIO, but we will not unilaterally force the hand of change. Time to get out of the tower and into the trenches, ignore the fud and listen to the community. Do you really believe the community would be put out if B1 voted in on referendums or BPs? And if the community was pissed, they would let you know and you could course correct. B1 is a major stakeholder and this is DPOS – it only works if stakeholders participate. B1’s vote is likely the most informed and valuable vote in existence right now, and it is sorely needed. Governance is floundering and needs someone to set an example. That is B1’s role, not some anon whale or an exchange.

Old Man19:47:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

*Regarding our capital, we have already made a public commitment of 1,000,000,000 USD to funding projects and businesses leveraging EOSIO through our EOS VC program; this outsizes many of the most well-know venture funds in the world today; many discussions and successful investments already occurred in 2018 through our GP partners Mike Novogratz, SVK, Finlab, EOS Global, and others. * The EOS and larger crypto communities are very aware of the $1bn VC fund. None of my comments on use of funds pertain to the $1bn (though I have said I am surprised for the hundreds of millions already allocated the buzz is pretty quiet, Justin/Charles/VB have you beat hands down there). The issue is the other $3bn or whatever the remainder was. Where is it? What is it doing now? What is going to do in the future? A simple press release breaking down the total capital intake from the token sale, current allocation and plans for future allocations would go a long way. Frankly, for a company that ostensibly exists to bring transparency, fairness, free markets etc. to the masses, I’m absolutely shocked B1’s voluntarily financial disclosures don’t even meet the rather low standard set for publicly traded corps. Why can’t EOS token holders read a 10-k or 10-Q? The token sale funds went into a black hole and so far we know where ~25% ended up… but when you dig you find we don’t actually have an official doc that lays out that $1bn, let alone the other $3bn. Words from B1 are freedom/transparency/change/paradigm shifts/power to plebs etc. but actions so far have been ‘thanks for all the fish’. I’m sure token sale funds are tracked carefully, would not be too hard to punt out a summary every three months.

Alexspi19:47:46 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ronzakkery

ok, but how will that unlimited scalability be achieved ?

Hardware upgrades like CPU multi-threading or software upgrades to the main core usually released by b1 or developers

Old Man19:47:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

*Outside of EOS VC, Block.one has been transparent that we retain a multi-billion USD treasury that is funding our global growth and entry into the application layer of EOSIO opportunities. As we do this, we’ve had to think carefully about which verticals we enter and how to do it in a way that preserves the decentralized integrity of the community, whilst avoiding alienating groups of the community already competing in those sectors - but we’ve made big progress here and are preparing to introduce upcoming products.* Mmmm no. That’s the whole point – what is this treasury, how much is in it, what is it being used for, where has the money gone and where will it go in the future. I’m not asking for audited financials, but take the $4bn or whatever was collected and put it in a pie chart and update the chart in a press release giving the community B1’s thoughts every three months. Start at the end of the token sale and work forward. Set the example, don’t follow the crowd.

Old Man19:48:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I ask for your patience as B1 continues to lay infrastructure for healthy growth so that it can meet the ever-increasing expectations of our EOSIO communities; we are as committed as always and getting stronger by the day, but I know patience sucks, so we’ll keep on racing. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to respond fully and publicly to my criticisms, shows the community you still care enough to step up when called out. Thank you. I believe EOS has the potential to change the world in ways I hope my great grandkids won’t even understand… because the norm for them will so different from the status quo today. However, I have witnessed the failure of too many decentralized projects and the pattern is the same. Great ideas -> code -> mvp -> money -> thanks for all the fish and good luck. B1’s engagement, communication, transparency and rollout since mainnet launch has not inspired confidence. The community is amazing and I’ve never seen another community bootstrap as much infrastructure as EOS has. But despite heroic efforts EOS is becoming crippled. DPOS requires participation or it withers and dies. B1 needs to vote, participate, share and iterate. What’s the worst that can happen if the community disagrees with how B1 voted? You only have ~10M. Better to start now, take your lumps and learn how to participate than wait until things get worse and you’re trying to save the day. Release the wallet-that-isn’t-just-a-wallet that bloody well better make it easy as pie to vote. Publish a roadmap for mainnet development. Be transparent about the token sale funds and show the community where they are and how they are being used. ❤️OM

Nathaniel Holguin19:49:24 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Anyone hear of telos?

Thierry - EOS Nation's Ambassador19:52:05 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Natethegreat98

Anyone hear of telos?

https://t.me/HelloTelos

Nathaniel Holguin19:52:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Yeah I just joined lol

Nathaniel Holguin19:52:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Saw a vid about an airdrop

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)19:53:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ronzakkery

I have another dumb question: At the moment EOS mainnet allows ~4800 TPS. What will allow millions of tps?

Current TPS is around 45-55. A transaction in EOS contains few actions unlike other cryptocurrency TPS. With IBC we could achieve unlimited scalability.

Alexspi19:54:04 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

Ya man we need patience, any great ideas are greatly appreciated by the community but make sure to voice any idea that can gain value to the platform on referendum proposals 👍😁

Alexspi19:55:34 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

We always need to bring value to the platform so everyone can benefit from holding the token in the long run

Old Man19:57:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

fuutlong

Tron is similar to EOS except it doesn’t work.

👍👌💪

Old Man20:01:14 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ivanvasilich

do anyone have actual road map of EOS project?

No. That's a big part of the great wall of text we built today

G20:02:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

No. That's a big part of the great wall of text we built today

When i can read it?

Old Man20:03:57 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ivanvasilich

When i can read it?

🙈

G20:04:22 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

🙈

sorry where;

Old Man20:08:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ivanvasilich

sorry where*

🙈

Ron Zee20:08:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

does EOS (B1) have an official ambassador initiative?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)20:10:04 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ronzakkery

does EOS (B1) have an official ambassador initiative?

I don't think so... Never heard of it.

Ron Zee20:10:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I wonder why

Ron Zee20:10:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I know EOS Nation has and they’re promoting EOSIO. But why not EOS itself

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)20:12:14 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ronzakkery

I know EOS Nation has and they’re promoting EOSIO. But why not EOS itself

Maybe cause promoting EOSIO itself promotes EOS.

Ron Zee20:12:48 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

but not with an ambassador program?

G20:16:22 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

🙈

well

Ron Zee20:16:24 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

No. That's a big part of the great wall of text we built today

is it not public yet?

G20:17:47 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

🙈

question still be not covered

Zka20:23:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Kengriffith

Is there a way to loan EOS tokens to businesses, without giving complete control of them?

Sure,send your tokens to vitalik

Alexspi20:27:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

B1 is trying to not be so influential on what goes on with main net because that would show centralization...they are focusing in fixing major issues if any show up on main core software. B1 itself is a growing company that is going to be working on other projects that might not involve eos...maybe they will release steemit 2.0 sooner than later hehe..

Josh Kauffman - EOS Canada 🇨🇦 | dfuse.io20:28:26 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

We are pleased to welcome Max Gravitt, @gravitt12, of Digital Scarcity to this week's interview for our series on blockchain developers, "In the eyes of a Blockchain Developer"! From Ethereum to EOS, Max is sharing his journey in app development with us. https://www.dfuse.io/en/blog/in-the-eyes-of-a-blockchain-developer-max-gravitt-from-digital-scarcity

ian20:29:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I think a new eos based social media is coming from b1. Steemit 2 or otherwise. Offering free accounts and a big gateway to massive on boarding...... and then tron will copy it lol

ian20:29:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

I think a new eos based social media is coming from b1. Steemit 2 or otherwise. Offering free accounts and a big gateway to massive on boarding...... and then tron will copy it lol

Kevin Rose - EOS New York20:31:31 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Vote thoughtfully, vote EOS: A tutorial on how to review, create, and vote for referenda on EOS. https://medium.com/eos-new-york/vote-thoughtfully-vote-eos-dcbe009fc727

Alexspi20:42:49 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

AnArchOnIst

I think a new eos based social media is coming from b1. Steemit 2 or otherwise. Offering free accounts and a big gateway to massive on boarding...... and then tron will copy it lol

tron has to worry about keeping up the competition with the many more eos siter chains coming online every other month 😜😜 some chinese eos sister chains already showing up on the blockchain radar

Zeus20:43:27 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old fully agree with everything you outlined and I hope B1 responds in more transparent and detailed way..

Alexspi20:48:30 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Zeus

Old fully agree with everything you outlined and I hope B1 responds in more transparent and detailed way..

i would like to see a b1 roadmap, a BP roadmap, and a developer community roadmap to be voted on referendum 👍😁😀

ian20:50:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

Ya for sure.

Tequila20:50:41 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I haven’t talked to dan in ages

Brendan Blumer20:50:45 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Once again I appreciate the engagement, but unfortunately these expectations don’t align with the way we legally designed the token sale, nor do they take into account the ongoing sensitivities around the industry in general, and how such degrees of “public reporting” could be construed or even classified. Further, breaking down treasury reserves for use on unannounced products would be atypical for even the largest companies today, and would make it very difficult if not impossible for Block.one to remain competitive at all. The EOS ERC-20 was not intended to introduce any social contract that would unsustainably create dependence on Block.one. Although we have chosen to abstain from voting until we represent a smaller percentage of voter engagement to ensure adequate decentralization, we have continued to stimulate community discussion on important topics and have communicated that we may vote in the future. Our involvement in governance will always be both welcomed and condemned simultaneously; the best of communications can only mitigate this reality. Nonetheless, we will continue walking the fine line of rapidly progressing EOS through EOSIO upgrades, and respecting the token-based democracy of the network. We go to great lengths to operate by best practices, and that means avoiding rushed communication that can and often result(s) in the delayed promises you’re seeing with most other protocols. We do plan on publishing a roadmap for EOSIO once we are ready to move past our focus of clearing backlogs of reported issues (which come in daily at declining frequency) and delivering initiatives that have already been outlined, including inter-chain communication. Until then we continue to monitor things closely and explore the best ways to add value to EOSIO for both public and private implementations, and amidst a rapidly evolving market landscape. I’m sorry we aren’t meeting your expectations but am happy you’re a committed and active member of the EOS community!

ian20:52:56 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

You guys are doing a great job and have my support. Thanks for this update.

Frida Lorenz20:54:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Peter O'Brien20:56:17 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi all, the latest Edge Wallet release now has native support for EOS. Users can create and activate EOS account names using BTC or LTC and swap between EOS and the different assets we support. Give the wallet a try and let us know if you have any feedback: https://edge.app

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS20:56:43 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Brendan, does block.one intend to continue supporting the development of EOS with regular eosio software updates and patches as and when necessary or should the community seek to fund eosio software updates themselves via a WPS?

Alexspi20:57:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

great job guys, I think the decentralization part is working great while you guys work on improving eos software 👍😁 Much appreciated 👍😁😀

Zeus20:57:43 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

We certainly appreciate the response and for taking time to engage. I just want to say that some roadmap or ideas of what is being built or some sort of communication, cannot harm..I don't think anyone expects roadmaps to be spot on and everyone here I believe have common sense to add more time to promised roadmaps. But full silence is not a good solution..

Rami James | Scatter20:57:52 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

This is an interesting question I'd also love to see the answer to

Tequila21:00:25 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

farfaraway

This is an interesting question I'd also love to see the answer to

Let me answer for him. Yes, of course they will. But all eos token holders should assume that they won’t

Tequila21:01:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

They have no obligation to do so, and $EOS was never intended to be developed and maintained by a single company

Peter O'Brien21:01:22 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi all, the latest Edge Wallet release now includes support for EOS. Users can create and activate EOS account names using BTC or LTC, and can exchange between EOS and the different assets we support. Give the wallet a try and let us know if you have any feedback

Brendan Blumer21:01:22 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

We will continue to take EOSIO in the direction we feel is best, and that could very well involve referendum outcomes and EOS constitutional updates. DPOS is perhaps the most used and replicated consensus mechanism out there, and we expect teams will continue to work on and fund alternative iterations.

Alexspi21:02:55 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i think roadmaps should be laid out by either b1, bps, or developers...the ones that have more insight on whats going on behind doors then send it to referendum for a poll vote

Rami James | Scatter21:04:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

realtequila

Let me answer for him. Yes, of course they will. But all eos token holders should assume that they won’t

I don't know. I get the feeling that EOS mainnet is being used as a testbed for their private blockchains. That is where I imagine most of their real revenue will come from. The mainnet is just a proof of concept.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS21:06:30 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Okay, so purely in terms of eosio code - you guys are fully committed to updates, patches and future implementations as long as you’re happy with the direction. Other incarnations or other versions of eosio based chains can make amendments as they wish. Would that be a fair assessment?

mandn21:06:33 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

farfaraway

The same happened with Waves then they can offer the tech and show mainnet as a POC.

Ken21:06:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Brendan, thank you for your responsiveness and professionalism. As a token holder I think the future for EOS is bright. I have been following B1 for some time and you have my trust. Please be mindful that the cynicism around certain elements expressed by people in this chatroom (disclosing financials, roadmaps, etc.) is not a universally shared view. I really think people here need to start reading in between the lines. B1 has already dropped so many hints already.

Alexspi21:06:44 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

farfaraway

i desagree, bringing in referendum gives more power to the user

Rami James | Scatter21:07:23 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I hope you're right 🙂

Henri B21:08:42 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

"Justin/Tron VB/ETH are absolutely eating B1's lunch with nothing more than twitter and a shitcoin. It's ridiculous. B1 should have been releasing front-end functionality like wallet, voting, etc. at mainnet launch or very shortly after," true @oldman

Rami James | Scatter21:09:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I appreciate B1's slow and steady approach.

Alexspi21:11:18 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

to compare eos with tron just go to dappradar.com and look a the real statistics then to compare tweets or other stuff they are doing

Zeus21:11:47 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

obstacle01

I think many people are afraid that history will repeat as in the case of Steem and bts..those were projects with tech way ahead of others and just look how they ended...More communication, marketing and roadmaps and product development are essential..not cynical..

Dallas Rushing21:13:03 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9tdA_QdLDY&feature=youtu.be

Alexspi21:13:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Zeus

well steemit did onlyl one thing which is for the most part blogging...with eos there are endless things you can do with the platform

Ken21:14:27 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Zeus

I get your point. I don't think they are that stupid. Showercoin showed them how easy it is to piss off the community with just an idea and from the beginning Brendan and Dan have said given blockchains are open source the competitive advantage is the size and loyalty of the community. Brendan's recent declarations about his job bring to do whatever he needs to to maximise the interests of EOS token holders has given me confidence.

Henri B21:15:06 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

its time now... for B1 to show what they have been working on , and create a new momentum...Hedera, TOW, Avalanche competition will be here soon..

Alexspi21:17:15 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

instead of solely waiting for block 1 lets proposed new ideas and voice them on referendum

Alexspi21:18:00 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

show eos is decentralized

Tequila21:18:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

farfaraway

I’m also getting this feeling

Alexspi21:19:40 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

on the positive side the votes for REX are rapidly increasing to be implemented

Alexspi21:20:01 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

with REX we introduce another level to eos

Ken21:21:43 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Also I don't think people realise the complexity involved in a project like this. Legal, technological, economical, psychological, cultural, etc. Can people not appreciate here that history is being made? Forgive my enthusiasm, but we are literally living through a revolution. Don't you see how much progress has been made in only 6+ months since the main net launched. Don't people realise there are entirely new paradigms here?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)21:22:21 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

Thank you Brendan for taking the time out to communicate with the community. 🙏 such communication are healthy and give members indication (hopefully) that B1 is working hard behind the scenes.

ian21:24:50 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

obstacle01

Very important. This is what i see going on as well

Fra21:25:58 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

this is my proposal to make eos a better place... https://www.eosx.io/tools/referendums/proposals/democracyeos

Alexspi21:26:56 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

many of us get spoiled and forget many of the services eos offers are ground breaking...there are no other chains to compare or try them out...maybe tron but i think any eos sister chains are superior to tron

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS21:27:59 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

farfaraway

I don’t get that impression. & Would that not be a disservice to those who took part in the crowd sale? I know anyone who took part in the crowd sale has no legal recourse, but I don’t get the impression that block.one are using EOS solely as a Testbed with no regard for actual token holders (not sure if you meant to imply this, but would that not be the natural conclusion to reach?). If EOS mainnet were to fail then that wouldn’t exactly be great advertising for B1 or eosio.

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS21:30:03 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I therefore think B1 will try and support it as best they can.

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)21:32:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

TheAwakenment

Why would someone think that B1 are using EOS as testbed?EOS helps B1 grow and vice-versa.

Ken21:33:07 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

They have already dropped hints on how they are launching a decentralised social media network but as a side chain airdropped to existing EOS token holders. They will also use URI as a customer acquisition strategy. If you ask me, time to start accumulating.

Carlos Matos21:46:36 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

with REX we introduce another level to eos

👌

Kyle - Vibes | privEOS21:47:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

Why would someone think that B1 are using EOS as testbed?EOS helps B1 grow and vice-versa.

A feeling they have. Maybe because things aren’t being explicitly spelled out or communicated (for legal reasons), so people are having to read between the lines and the message(s) they’re interpreting are getting muddled possibly?

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Gayheart Moses22:23:24 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Tanxs

DataJunky | GenerEOS22:30:38 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Florin Vw22:35:53 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Vote, Vote, Vote: https://eosauthority.com/polls?lnc=en. The first 2 polls on the top of the list are critical for the future of EOS!!

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Alexspi22:46:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Florin Vw

Vote, Vote, Vote: https://eosauthority.com/polls?lnc=en. The first 2 polls on the top of the list are critical for the future of EOS!!

what's your favorite proposal idea?

Florin Vw22:47:34 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

what's your favorite proposal idea?

both. we need both to make eosio better.

Corrin22:47:34 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Money is important but Happiness is Importanter.

Alexspi22:49:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Corrin

Money is important but Happiness is Importanter.

lets all get filthy rich 😜😜😱🤑

Josh Kauffman - EOS Canada 🇨🇦 | dfuse.io22:51:48 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

To help demonstrate the multi-select type that is possible on the `eosio.forum` contract, I created this proposal so that users can play around with it and see how it works. Go take a look, cast a vote, and let's get @thomasbcox to be our personal guinea pig 😄 Vote for as few or as many options as you'd like, and then go see how different UIs show the information to get a better understanding of some of the features of the tool https://eostitan.com/proposals?proposal=multiselect1&created_at=2019-01-16T22%3A11%3A48.000Z&tab=0

Simon | Parsl | SEED22:58:47 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Nice Video Matt! Great breakdown on the Parsl project and real succinct information about what we're doing! I just watched it, and if you haven't, I truly recommend listening for a breakdown on what we're actively doing for Supply Chain and Cannabis alike!

Matt 🙈 Trybe.one I WORBLI.io22:58:48 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/QuKmCXvlmWQ

Raman Bindlish - IWAD | Blockstart23:01:19 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sparsl

I would like to see more focus on actual project - supply chain and such... that would really help... It may not be healthy for community to focus on token and bonuses... 🙂

Raman Bindlish - IWAD | Blockstart23:01:32 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Would watch this video soon...

Simon | Parsl | SEED23:03:37 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ramanbindlish

I would like to see more focus on actual project - supply chain and such... that would really help... It may not be healthy for community to focus on token and bonuses... 🙂

This isn't actually a focus on token and bonuses! @Costacrypto goes through the project and what, why and how we're going to change the Cannabis supply chain!

Alexspi23:08:10 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

joshkauff

To help demonstrate the multi-select type that is possible on the eosio.forum contract, I created this proposal so that users can play around with it and see how it works. Go take a look, cast a vote, and let's get @thomasbcox to be our personal guinea pig 😄 Vote for as few or as many options as you'd like, and then go see how different UIs show the information to get a better understanding of some of the features of the tool https://eostitan.com/proposals?proposal=multiselect1&created_at=2019-01-16T22%3A11%3A48.000Z&tab=0

I like what blok.io has done with the referendum layout... its easy to see titles and the voting bars..it stands out for easy viewing...any way to make those titles pop out similar to blok.io with the current dark theme you have designed already?...also would be great to make the content a big bigger than it is.

Alexspi23:09:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sparsl

This isn't actually a focus on token and bonuses! @Costacrypto goes through the project and what, why and how we're going to change the Cannabis supply chain!

👍👍😁

mandn23:14:21 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

You mean bloks.io ?

Damian Duck23:15:00 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

guys , get your LIMITED BINANCE FIAT EXCHANGE REGISTRATION!!! https://www.binance.je/?ref=35021119

Alexspi23:15:23 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mandnmandn

You mean bloks.io ?

yup, thanks, just fixed it 😀

Josh Kauffman - EOS Canada 🇨🇦 | dfuse.io23:36:09 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

I like what bloks.io has done with the referendum layout... its easy to see titles and the voting bars..it stands out for easy viewing...any way to make those titles pop out similar to bloks.io with the current dark theme you have designed already?...also would be great to make the content a bit bigger than it is.

This isn't a UI that I control. This is by the folks at eos titan. You can reach out to them with your feedback if you'd like. @shaqk

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io23:40:20 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

👍

Old Man23:49:28 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Zeus

👍👌 Those that do not understand history are doomed to repeat it

Brett @ BigIron.io Big Iron (formerly EOS the World)23:54:14 - 16 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOStheWorld

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EOStheWorld

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Are you a financial advisor?

Alexspi00:32:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOStheWorld

it would've been better if the snapshot was delayed so that the token can be better distributed for price discovery from other exchanges

Alexspi00:38:53 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

any aidrops can be rewarded to the current telos stake holders 😁👍

Frankin Footer00:39:25 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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I am buying because Bret told me so. If I loose money....

Alexspi00:54:46 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Yoni4848

I am buying because Bret told me so. If I loose money....

if you lose money he will give you some eos...if you make money you have to give him all the profits, done deal 👍🤑

Yves La Rose EOS Nation / LINK00:55:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Nathan Rempel is stepping down from GenerEOS to join EOS Nation as our first Partner. Nathan brings with him a vast experience in EOS smart contract development. https://medium.com/@eosnationbp/eos-nation-welcomes-nathan-rempel-c301afbcda04

Alexspi00:59:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

for this proposal " Should EOS tokens sent to eosio.ramfee and eosio.names accounts in the future be allocated to REX? " , was created 4 days and has 8% already...at this rate we should have almost 15% in another week 😀

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io00:59:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

for this proposal " Should EOS tokens sent to eosio.ramfee and eosio.names accounts in the future be allocated to REX? " , was created 4 days ago and has 8% already...at this rate we should have almost 15% in another week 😀

thats 8% of 15%

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io01:00:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

that black bar needs to go to 100%!

Kritichon Narzary01:00:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hii everyone Good morning

Alexspi01:01:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

syed_jafri

thats 8% of 15%

ahh got ya, i missed the black bar lol

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Alexspi01:02:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

so we need 92%? 😱

mandn01:04:24 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

More like a year 😆

PaulyC01:04:45 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

so we need 92%? 😱

Lol

Alexspi01:05:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i was getting happy seeing 8% closer to getting the 15% haha

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io01:05:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

so we need 92%? 😱

yes

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io01:05:58 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

you can also see turnout %

mandn01:06:05 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It was a struggle to get mainnet activated, it’s gonna be a lot worse to get people to vote on proposals

Alexspi01:06:19 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

fk we need 92% we need to rally for rex lol

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io01:06:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

turnout % needs to hit 15%

Alexspi01:07:20 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

well is not bad already at 8%..its been 4 days so far

PaulyC01:07:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is Rex ready?

Alexspi01:07:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

at this rate it will take

Alexspi01:18:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

we definately need REX so people vote lol..its funny we are voting for a tool to make people vote

MaxDapp01:19:25 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TakjOeeCv8&t=1678s

Jamie Wynacht01:29:00 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

When Lambo?

telemethebot01:29:02 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Jamie_Wynacht

When Lambo?

`Reminder: This isn't a price/trading discussion, please read group rules to avoid ban.`

Old Man01:30:04 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

My comments are getting to be like sand in the butt crack. B1 can be the tool that realizes Dan’s vision and disrupts the status quo or it can be another big tech company that funnels profits to a few. My sense is that the trend is from former to latter. I hope you will prove me to be very much mistaken. Thanks again for taking the time to read and respond! Despite my misgivings, I firmly believe you and Dan are the best shot us plebs have at turning this whole mess around and have never been more optimistic about the future. Whatever happens, 2019 is going to be a helluva year.

Old Man01:30:04 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

The terms of the token sale were designed to mitigate regulatory risk and certainly were not the motivation for people to move $4bn from their pockets to B1. “The tokens are worthless but if you donate money we will use it to build amazing blockchain tech and make the world a better place” pretty much sums up how $4bn found its way to B1 and absolutely creates a clear set of expectations as to what donated funds are to be used for. Approaching the current situation with “the thanks for all the fish, read the fine print and we are just doing what the other big tech companies do”, imho, simply doesn’t cut it. B1 ostensibly exists to change the paradigm, not entrench it. There is no precedent for financial reporting on billions of dollars in donated/community funding for a blockchain tech company because it’s never happened before – it’s up to B1 to create the precedents. I fully understand and sympathize with the douchebaggery prevalent in the space as I’ve had front row seats for many years. No one is asking B1 to drop their shorts. But there’s a hell of a big distance between where things stand today and letting it all hang out. B1 could absolutely be providing high level breakdowns showing the flow/allocation of token sale funds without putting the company at some type of competitive disadvantage. Back to the pie charts – create a community funds page and show breakdowns. As individual products are released, add a wedge to show how much of the community pot was spent. Show us how much has been spent on maintaining and updating the EOSIO code base. For the monety allocated to VC, give us another pie chart showing how much went to which shop, then have each individual company produce their own pie charts showing where they invested the money. Show us how much annual income the treasury is producing. Have the lawyers put all sorts of disclaimers on the info. But make the effort to show the community how the money is being put to work. With regard to governance I can’t disagree that B1 is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. At this point, however, B1 participation is critical and without it EOS growth and adoption is going to be severely stunted. Big things are coming down the pipe in the next couple quarters and if EOS doesn’t have a strong foundation in place before the next wave hits it’s going to get ugly. It is blatantly obvious the community needs help getting the governance mechanism set up and functioning. Governance doesn’t have to be perfect, it just has to start working. Once functional the community can debate and tweak till the cows come home. But it has to start now so there is time to work out the kinks before any real adoption starts. B1 needs to step in and say “Here is what we believe is the right thing to do, and we are going to vote accordingly”. B1 can listen to feedback and adjust as time goes on, but it needs to act. Per my last, it is best for B1 to start participating now with a small and tight community than it will be 6-12 months down the road when the user base starts going exponential. A constitution must be ratified. Voting must be incentivized. ECAF has to be disbanded. 1T/1V. REX implemented. The issues have been debated, are well understood and need to be parked so we can move on to bigger and better things. Abstaining has been a good policy thus far, but time’s up. I am very happy to hear B1 will be publishing a roadmap! But the timing is not very helpful; please consider higher level/sooner as opposed to detailed/later. Regarding public vs. private implementation, I sincerely hope all donated funds and frankly the vast majority of B1 resources/effort are devoted to the public chain. If B1 is serious about its vision of change the public infrastructure has to be rock solid before anything else is built out. I’m sure B1 is positioned to make incomprehensible amounts of money for shareholders doing private chains. But please change the world before you line pockets.

mandn01:38:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

at this rate it will take about 50 days?

Stick a one week timer on proposals and that’s you opportunity to vote

Brendan Blumer01:49:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I hear you Old Man and appreciate your intense criticism as guidance to keep delivering more; thank you

Katie @eosasia 🧜🏽‍♀️ eosx.io01:58:40 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

The Crypto Type does not like the FUD01:58:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Yoni4848

I am buying because Bret told me so. If I loose money....

lolz

Thomas Cox02:03:41 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

joshkauff

I vow to listen to the will of the people as expressed in this referendum.

sec ond02:13:44 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

any health issue on Dan? long time no see him online

Alexspi02:16:24 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

thomasbcox

I vow to listen to the will of the people as expressed in this referendum.

i think referendum is there not just for formal proposals but to get peoples ideas... to find a few big ideas that can make a big difference...i think many ideas could be turned into a smart contract or a code format..this is the job for developers or bps 😁👍

Tom Fu | GenerEOS | eostoolkit.io02:19:47 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Datajunky

Right on, more firepower added to EOS. Meet.one is making big waves.

thas it DJ

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Alexspi02:22:13 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

adding the comment box could help in making a proposal come a working product by having developers pitch in some code ideas

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS02:32:18 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

eosauthority site has comments

Alexspi02:32:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

the referendum is for the whole community and i would say 95% of the community are not coders so i think the referendum idea is to get ideas approved then to see if they can be developed to a something that works with coding

Alexspi02:35:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i encourage for anyone to go an voice their ideas...only ideas that can bring value to eos platform not spam 😁👍

Sandwich02:35:56 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

Can an admin pin this message for users who have questions on what B1 is doing so to eliminate fud or possible drama intensifying?

It's added in there, making the entire pinned messages results in other problems.

Alexspi02:40:11 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sandw1ch

It's added in there, making it the entire pinned messages results in other problems.

got ya, thanks for trying 👍

Sandwich02:43:06 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

got ya, thanks for trying 👍

Well, I didn't just try, because the link to brendan's message is there 😉

xiao pao03:07:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there a tool for checking the CPU usage ranking on eos?

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GG03:09:03 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

To any fork who thinks they are in it with a chance, Changing how voting works is like wearing a different pair of undies. Little value. Show us your development and innovation chops by making the platform better and then u might get some respect.

Z03:09:39 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

dpggio

ok are you sure

GG03:11:34 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Zell9

ok are you sure

Share some thoughts if u have some it's good for everyone.

Alexspi03:12:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

as far as creating a proposal in referendum....is there a way to choose between a referendum or poll...there is no way to choose from the menu

Alexspi03:14:40 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

it should have a button that says " create referendum proposal " and or poll button

Tequila03:16:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

So if I use a vote proxy, are my votes applied to referendum votes of the proxy as well?

Tequila03:16:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Can I vote independently for a referendum, or will my votes always align with the proxy I selected for block producers?

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io03:16:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

realtequila

So if I use a vote proxy, are my votes applied to referendum votes of the proxy as well?

Yes

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io03:17:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

realtequila

Can I vote independently for a referendum, or will my votes always align with the proxy I selected for block producers?

Yes, you voting will remove votes from proxy vote and add to yours

Tequila03:17:28 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Oh cool. I disagree with their position on one issue

Alexspi03:19:05 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

syed_jafri

Yes

is there a way to differentiate between a referendum proposal and a poll ? i mean have 2 buttons one for ref and other for a poll button where it says create proposal

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io03:19:43 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

is there a way to differentiate between a referendum proposal and a poll ? i mean have 2 buttons one for ref and other for a poll button where it says create proposal

You have to switch type

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io03:19:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

In create to make a poll

Alexspi03:21:30 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

syed_jafri

You have to switch type

i dont see that option, is it on the create proposal tab?

Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io03:22:24 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

i dont see that option, is it on the create proposal tab?

Yes

Alexspi03:22:29 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i would say 95% of the referendum prosals are polls hehe

Tequila03:24:14 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there anything close to passing yet?

Alexspi03:24:29 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

syed_jafri

Yes

under in that tab there is Type " sample types" under that box it says referendum -v1

Tequila03:24:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Also how do we filter through all the crap in this?

Tequila03:25:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Can people just endless proposals? Is this controlled by charging a fee

Tequila03:25:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

If not I propose a referendum to charge a fee in eos for posting something to vote on

Tequila03:25:48 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Otherwise it will be a bunch of garbage

Alexspi03:26:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

syed_jafri

Yes

under in that tab that says Type " sample types" under that box it says referendum -v1

be ba03:26:28 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

is there a way to differentiate between a referendum proposal and a poll ? i mean have 2 buttons one for ref and other for a poll button where it says create proposal

https://www.eoscanada.com/en/answers-to-every-question-you-have-about-the-eos-referendum-contract « you can see it types section thank you EOS CANADA

be ba03:27:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

referendum-v1 « paste that into google

Alexspi03:28:52 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

realtequila

Also how do we filter through all the crap in this?

nah, this system is new...users would not use anything they hav to pay

Tequila03:29:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Sure they would

Tequila03:29:31 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It costs money to make a proposal on dash, people do it all the time

Alexspi03:30:25 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

realtequila

Sure they would

i think all we need is to get REX approved

Tequila03:30:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

If you have an idea that’s important you should be willing to put a few bucks on the line. It can be setup so that if it’s successfully voted in within x months, you get your money back.

Tequila03:31:19 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What’s the rex proposal at?

Tequila03:31:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hit 15% yet?

Alexspi03:32:06 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

we should have 2 types of referendums...one for formal referendums with code and another to propose ideas

Alexspi03:33:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

we should add small cost for a formal referendum

Vincent03:36:00 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://australianfintech.com.au/swiss-watchmaker-develops-100k-timepiece-with-built-in-crypto-wallet/

Alexspi03:36:13 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i think its a good idea to have them separate so to eliminate stuff that is not so important

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暴风 803:39:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Alexspi03:45:42 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

realtequila

If you have an idea that’s important you should be willing to put a few bucks on the line. It can be setup so that if it’s successfully voted in within x months, you get your money back.

not a bad idea to get the money back

Matt 🙈 Trybe.one I WORBLI.io04:08:38 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/qZaRuymJY7o

dandroidos04:13:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What is the BOS sidechain?

dandroidos04:19:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS Side-Chain Project BOS – EOS News – Medium https://medium.com/@EOSNews/eos-side-chain-project-bos-eb1fb9f60bf9

dandroidos04:19:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Nevermind, I found it:)

Frankin Footer04:23:52 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Costacrypto

https://youtu.be/qZaRuymJY7o

Why not just own gold instead?

Matt 🙈 Trybe.one I WORBLI.io04:24:06 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Mining profits

Matt 🙈 Trybe.one I WORBLI.io04:24:20 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

half gold half mining profits which gives a leverage

James21204:30:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/vJw_ka4S8Qg

Katie @eosasia 🧜🏽‍♀️ eosx.io04:35:34 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Costacrypto

https://youtu.be/qZaRuymJY7o

this is amazing news!

Matt 🙈 Trybe.one I WORBLI.io04:40:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

summerskin

this is amazing news!

Thanks Katie,exciting stuff agreed!

Dane05:11:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What's your favourite DeX to use?

Cosmos cadmus05:22:24 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Chris Hives05:24:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ANY admin here?

biteos05:40:36 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

chrishives

ANY admin here?

What's up?

Chris Hives05:40:56 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

do you know anyone from ECAF

biteos05:41:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

chrishives

do you know anyone from ECAF

they are all in the 911 channel which I see that you are already in

Chris Hives05:42:13 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ya dealing with issues

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DataJunky | GenerEOS05:57:19 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I've given the first EOSIO Smart Contact development workshop at University of Western Sydney yesterday. Trying to approach some more universities soon and spread the word about EOSIO blockchains.

DataJunky | GenerEOS05:57:19 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

We need more of this. EOS needs more of this. 👏👏👏👏👏

OgJono06:11:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS fam, apologies, I know not the forum for this. Round 2 of internet shut down happening in Zimbabwe. VPN's being blocked quickly. We need help. Any ideas please DM. Last time they turned off all internet entirely. ISP's taking instruction from government. Not sure how long I will remain connected.

Krishna Yogi06:17:33 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Datajunky

I've given the first EOSIO Smart Contact development workshop at University of Western Sydney yesterday. Trying to approach some more universities soon and spread the word about EOSIO blockchains.

👍

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Илья Пирогов06:46:18 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

When rex?

👀

👀06:50:24 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

🙈

D Kinx06:51:30 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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D Kinx06:51:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Mine disappear

D Kinx06:51:44 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I had to download again

kuwan Lee06:52:03 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

dkinx

Anyone here have issue with Binanace app on iOS

Well yes same here

kuwan Lee06:52:12 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Go for others

DataJunky | GenerEOS06:52:23 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

OgJono

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191118-hong-kong-protesters-turn-to-mesh-networks-to-evade-chinas-censorship

D Kinx06:52:39 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Leekuwan

Go for others

Others what ?

DataJunky | GenerEOS06:53:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

OgJono

" They are already using a mesh networking app called FireChat, which allows the protesters to communicate freely without any kind of centralized cellular or WiFi network"

Dane07:08:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there a good telegram for bitcoin like this one for eos?

Alexspi07:12:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/y5WoFp-HhQQ

OgJono07:24:00 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Datajunky

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191118-hong-kong-protesters-turn-to-mesh-networks-to-evade-chinas-censorship

Awesome, thank you very much @Datajunky looking into it now

DataJunky | GenerEOS07:43:12 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Danedeer

Is there a good telegram for bitcoin like this one for eos?

https://t.me/whalepoolbtc

DataJunky | GenerEOS07:43:55 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

OgJono

Awesome, thank you very much @Datajunky looking into it now

👍 Hope you guys find justice and a peaceful resolution.

Dane07:47:45 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Datajunky

https://t.me/whalepoolbtc

Thanks, guess I gotta wait until Jan 31st to ask my question haha

Andrew07:48:11 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

If I see TLOS tokens under Squirrel/Telos mainnet, I'm good?

Andrew07:48:23 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What will snapshot do for me if I already have TLOS tokens that show there?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)07:50:06 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Andrew

If I see TLOS tokens under Squirrel/Telos mainnet, I'm good?

You are good.

Andrew07:50:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Nice

Andrew07:50:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I'll be HODLing TLOS for quite some time

Andrew07:50:46 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

How many BPs do they support?

Andrew07:50:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

for rewards

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)07:50:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Andrew

What will snapshot do for me if I already have TLOS tokens that show there?

Snapshot would help dApps developed on the top of TLOS to airdrop tokens.

Andrew07:51:14 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I meant why is there a snapshot if I already have TLOS on mainnet of Telos?

Andrew07:51:18 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

What is the snapshot for?

Andrew07:51:28 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Seems like it's already live

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)07:51:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

@HelloTelos would be the more appropriate channel for the questions.

Andrew07:52:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

True

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)07:53:00 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Andrew

What is the snapshot for?

dApp developers will use the snapshot to airdrop tokens to you accounts.

Andrew07:53:29 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I see

Andrew07:53:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

That makes sense

Andrew07:53:48 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there a RAM price chart for TLOS?

Andrew07:54:36 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Or is the price going to be mostly fixed?

Andrew07:54:44 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Seems right now 10.8 kb per TLOS

Andrew07:55:08 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I'll check in Telos group

axc a07:56:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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OgJono08:01:53 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Datajunky

👍 Hope you guys find justice and a peaceful resolution.

Us too bru. Thank you again

shadow08:14:44 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there a problem with the network? I noticed strange behavior lately

Andrew08:31:45 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Will the TLOS snapshot factor in staked+unstaked TLOS tokens?

Eon Ha - ITAM Games08:32:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)08:33:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Andrew

Will the TLOS snapshot factor in staked+unstaked TLOS tokens?

staked tokens.

Mr.Z08:34:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

staked tokens.

So only staked tokens count towards the snapshot? it is not like that in EOS?

Andrew08:38:05 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

staked tokens.

The default though is unstaked it seems

Andrew08:38:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Are you positive? If so, do I have time to stake them?

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)08:39:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

zlajoni

So only staked tokens count towards the snapshot? it is not like that in EOS?

Sorry, edited it does take both into account.

Mr.Z08:39:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

Sorry, edited it does take both into account.

that makes more sense

Andrew08:39:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Ok; that's a relief

Ar Rana08:45:39 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I want to sell a EOS wallet!

hadrian08:48:23 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

arranat

I want to sell a EOS wallet!

That's ambiguous. What sort of wallet? Perhaps you mean an account?

Don Nacho08:49:55 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Alexspi

you bought 500 worth of eos to buy yum token?

Yum rhymes with ....... ?

Jim Bakkum08:50:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Mum

pad08:51:39 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

👽

pad08:52:00 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

daily reminder b1 pulled down like $4b and has allocated $1b in vc for eosio projects

pad08:52:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ethereum maximalists hate us click here 2 learn y

pad08:54:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Dat Lu08:56:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Datajunky

I've given the first EOSIO Smart Contact development workshop at University of Western Sydney yesterday. Trying to approach some more universities soon and spread the word about EOSIO blockchains.

More infor on this story? Why and wat for?

Cherry Golubovska09:00:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Dat Lu

More infor on this story? Why and wat for?

I don't really find this more like a story, just someone trying to make it heard on crypto and having issues

Cherry Golubovska09:01:03 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

padderson

daily reminder b1 pulled down like $4b and has allocated $1b in vc for eosio projects

I think that they should more than that's

pad09:01:39 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i respectfully disagree

pad09:01:56 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

$1b is a nice round number with some oomph behind it

Ryan Downing09:02:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

padderson

$1b is a nice round number with some oomph behind it

Agreed

Motoxmadness09:04:53 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

why am i getting this when i try to do a transaction

Cherry Golubovska09:06:07 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

toppo_toppo

why am i getting this when i try to do a transaction

Have you contacted support

Cherry Golubovska09:06:36 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Or placed something like help

Ryan Downing09:07:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Announcing a new channel : Block.one's CEO Brendan Blumer @BrendanBlumerEOS ——————————————————————————————

Ryan Downing09:08:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Why are my posts being removed?

Ryan Downing09:08:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Trying to share reference to Brendan’s new Telegram channel

Olivia Harris09:10:43 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

toppo_toppo

why am i getting this when i try to do a transaction

Contact support, that's the best option

Motoxmadness09:11:13 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

how do you do tat

Motoxmadness09:11:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

that

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:11:28 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Ryan Downing

Trying to share reference to Brendan’s new Telegram channel

if you havn't been here for 30 days, bots will remove links

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:11:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

toppo_toppo

that

what are you trying to do? is this your first time using the wallet?

Motoxmadness09:12:29 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

its the first time im trying to send tokens with scatter and eostoolkit

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:13:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

hmm

Ryan Downing09:13:42 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

HoneyBooBoosMom

if you havn't been here for 30 days, bots will remove links

I’ve only been on the channel about 15 days, and posted almost daily - your bot is malfunctioning

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:14:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

you gotta be here 30 days before you can post links

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:14:48 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

toppo_toppo

its the first time im trying to send tokens with scatter and eostoolkit

first time using scatter? did you just set scatter up?

Ryan Downing09:14:58 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

HoneyBooBoosMom

you gotta be here 30 days before you can post links

Gotcha 👍

Motoxmadness09:15:53 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i set it up a while ago about 6 months but i just now tried to send tokens but it wont let me

Motoxmadness09:17:06 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i have 015 eos cpu and .05 eos net is that enough

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:17:13 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

try updating scatter.. are you using scatter desktop?

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:17:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

15 cpu?

Motoxmadness09:17:27 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

im on desktop

Motoxmadness09:17:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

with updated scatter

Motoxmadness09:18:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

0.15 eos cpu

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:18:34 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

im not sure why you'd get that error...

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:19:04 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

.15 might not be enough cpu, but i really doubt thats what that error is about

Sven Pohl09:19:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is there something new happened regarding deferred transactions?

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:19:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

whats it say where the photo cuts off? a sig for this request was....

John McCoffee - Aloha EOS09:20:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

did you set up scatter with your private key?

FinancialFreedomFighter09:23:30 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

If you need help using EOS go visit this page folks:

FinancialFreedomFighter09:23:44 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://facebook.com/theeosaid

FinancialFreedomFighter09:23:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

@theeosaid

FinancialFreedomFighter09:23:58 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

The EOS AID

FinancialFreedomFighter09:24:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

on fbook, minds and yt

FinancialFreedomFighter09:24:25 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

All the basics covered and im adding more vids soon!

z liu09:33:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS has been blocked for a long time.

Rayne Davis09:34:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hey guys, we’ve put together a list of the most and least popular referendum proposals and what they mean for the community. You can check it out here: https://link.medium.com/PzDlmGw1xT

z liu09:34:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

deferred transaction is a big threaten

Pi09:35:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS and Ledger integration rocks

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)09:42:20 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Ryan Downing

Trying to share reference to Brendan’s new Telegram channel

@BrendanBlumerEOS

Krishna Yogi09:49:08 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe Nobody

Cheers! Since B1 has been active in voicing their opinions, including removing 4% inflation and WPS. I'd like to casually submit a project for Block one to consider since it may be a large effort for the community to sponsor on its own. Instead of a WPS: The community could utilize an EOS crowdfunding platform that allows users to connect their own tokens directly to EOS projects they believe are interesting and exciting instead of diluting the total EOS token supply with system inflation. A crowdfunding platform on EOS could further remove ambiguity as to exactly who or what type of future user is interested in the project and how to best cater development to their users. There are many platforms outside of cryptocurrency that do this and have been successful at funding projects for years; e.g., Kickstarter, GoFundMe, IndieGoGo, JD, Taobao, and Xiaomi.

Wps is pretty useful the diluting effect is miniscule

Freshfray09:51:27 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Imagine a clause for WPS funds that projects built using the platforms funds would 100% airdrop.. isn’t that incentive for eos as a whole to keep WPS?

Martin09:52:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Wps is pretty useful the diluting effect is miniscule

Have you read eosnewyork's proposal? https://medium.com/eos-new-york/a-voluntaristic-approach-to-the-eos-worker-proposal-fund-1b2a94dad20b

Martin09:54:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I think eosdublin were involved too

Martin09:56:08 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

New York and Dublin, it's a great thing

simon case (EOSphere) 🇦🇺09:58:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

blooms05

I hear you Old Man and appreciate your intense criticism as guidance to keep delivering more; thank you

❤️

Sharif eosDublin | eosBootcamp.com09:59:45 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mjhomb

New York and Dublin, it's a great thing

Cheers Martin! We were trashing the bounty idea around for a while. NY took it and developed it to a point where we can test it. All our ideas are open source, and we are delighted with the mention.

Martin10:04:05 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

simoncase

❤️

That was great to read. I'm with old man, go B1 and Dan"s vision. It really is so amazing this Eos thing

FinancialFreedomFighter10:08:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

simoncase

❤️

😎👌👍

Shirley - IMEOS10:10:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS Mainnetwork TPS reaches 4,804

Martin10:11:23 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sharifbouktila

Cheers Martin! We were trashing the bounty idea around for a while. NY took it and developed it to a point where we can test it. All our ideas are open source, and we are delighted with the mention.

It's such a great idea Sharif, one of your many

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)10:15:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mjhomb

It's such a great idea Sharif, one of your many

simon case (EOSphere) 🇦🇺10:26:46 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

WraggSD

😎👌👍

😍

sweetlove10:27:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Triuzla Green10:35:53 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

hey who has huobi eos wallet?

snake10:41:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

呦呵

Nabil Jegham10:58:04 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi i have 20 EOS I M NEVER RECEVET

pad11:01:40 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

NABILJEGHAM

Hi i have 20 EOS I M NEVER RECEVET

my goodness. how do you propose we resolve this?

Michael Yeates11:02:20 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

IMEOS

this is very wrong

pad11:02:40 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

y tho

pad11:03:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

srs q what are the actual numbers

pad11:03:20 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i don't really pay attention

Michael Yeates11:03:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

the transactions were expired

Michael Yeates11:03:52 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

the max we can get on mainnet is 4k tx/s

Michael Yeates11:04:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

until we change the settings, math stops us going higher

pad11:04:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

will multibreading 🍞 increase.dat

Michael Yeates11:04:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Michael Yeates11:04:23 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

its limited by math

pad11:04:30 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

y tho

Michael Yeates11:04:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

min time per tx and max time per block

Brett @ BigIron.io Big Iron (formerly EOS the World)11:05:14 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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pad11:05:34 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

fucking eos youtube spam in my face 24/7

Michael Yeates11:05:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

thats telos youtube spam :D

pad11:06:02 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

what would be a catalyst to changing the settings for muh faster tps

Michael Yeates11:06:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

🤷‍♂️

Michael Yeates11:06:45 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

you cant break the laws of physics

pad11:07:00 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

🤔

Michael Yeates11:07:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

we could change the min charge down to allow for higher tps, but they would only be empty transactions

Czar kimani11:07:30 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

😔

Michael Yeates11:07:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i dont think theres much need to tweak anything now

Czar kimani11:08:33 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEbDBZ5FQarAF8uMqg More solutions

Czar kimani11:08:43 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEbDBZ5FQarAF8uMqg

Czar kimani11:08:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEbDBZ5FQarAF8uMqg

pad11:08:55 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

how many open sockets does each bp have in the p2p

Czar kimani11:09:02 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEbDBZ5FQarAF8uMqg

Czar kimani11:09:11 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEbDBZ5FQarAF8uMqg

Michael Yeates11:09:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i dont know

pad11:09:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

for sending/receiving muh datas

Michael Yeates11:09:29 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

thats not the bottleneck

Michael Yeates11:09:38 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

more connections actually slows things down

pad11:09:40 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

🤔

pad11:09:44 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

breh

pad11:09:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

y tho

pad11:09:58 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

muh wasm?

Michael Yeates11:10:02 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

more data flying around to everyone

pad11:10:27 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

what about muh moar portspeed

pad11:10:45 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

moar sockets have always meant faster transmission of data in my experience as a brogrammer 🤔

Joe11:10:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Wps is pretty useful the diluting effect is miniscule

It's a systemic problem. Fixed Inflation of tokens supply = Fixed Dilution of resources allocated per token; i.e., less CPU and Network capacity per token. All things remaining equal, more tokens without capacity enhancements added via code refinement or hardware/bandwidth upgrades leads to less CPU and Network claim per token. An action before inflation would require more tokens to execute after inflation is introduced - all things remaining equal. What good does it do to fund developers with tokens that have a claim on perpetually decreasing utility? Performance gains aren't fixed, known increases like perpetual, fixed dilution of those gains across more tokens. Fractional EOS in an upgrading system without inflation or significantly limited inflation will be yield more CPU/Network per token. Increase the decimal places on EOS as upgrades come online, not add more tokens. This gives developers and users granular precision in acquiring the capacity they need and not more. Token supply will double in just under 15 years at current rate.

pad11:12:10 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

where is dan to simplify this shit for me

pad11:12:20 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ever since showercoin everyone sent him into hiding

pad11:12:41 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

prolly b a dope coin tho 💯

pad11:12:55 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

ok bye eos :sleep:

Krishna Yogi11:16:55 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

It's a systemic problem. Fixed Inflation of tokens supply = Fixed Dilution of resources allocated per token; i.e., less CPU and Network capacity per token. All things remaining equal, more tokens without capacity enhancements added via code refinement or hardware/bandwidth upgrades leads to less CPU and Network claim per token. An action before inflation would require more tokens to execute after inflation is introduced - all things remaining equal. What good does it do to fund developers with tokens that have a claim on perpetually decreasing utility? Performance gains aren't fixed, known increases like perpetual, fixed dilution of those gains across more tokens. Fractional EOS in an upgrading system without inflation or significantly limited inflation will yield more CPU/Network per token. Increase the decimal places on EOS as upgrades come online, not add more tokens. This gives developers and users granular precision in acquiring the capacity they need and not more. Token supply will double in just under 15 years at current rate.

Wps has a far bigger postive impact than the possible negatives you listed.... Just look at adoption of dash vs Bitcoin in Venezuela....despite being a 15th coin dash achieved massive adoption due to the wps or treasury .. you can't expect people to work on donations that's simply doesn't work.... What if there's inflation even BTC has it ... That's how these things work... Nevertheless in 20 years from now we can start looking at decreasing the percentage or something

Joe11:17:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Artificially stimulating development can lead to projects the community at large may never have asked, but would have unknowingly paid for through inflation tax (1M EOS to start the WPS, 2.0% inflation thereafter) that was directed to unknown projects; bridges that lead to nowhere some of us want to go, but we paid for. Impatience by a few is no argument and contraction of contributions during bear markets is natural across worldwide markets. There are fat years and lean years. When market cycles turn up, contributions rise accordingly. How many dApps and portals have been and are being developed without touching system funds, without needing an EmCom, without an Oversight Committee, and without 5 additional governance structures What libertarian-rooted, free market-loving, voluntary system relies on adding additional bureaucracy?

Krishna Yogi11:19:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Artificially stimulating development can lead to projects the community at large may never have asked, but would have unknowingly paid for through inflation tax (1M EOS to start the WPS, 2.0% inflation thereafter) that was directed to unknown projects; bridges that lead to nowhere some of us want to go, but we paid for. Impatience by a few is no argument and contraction of contributions during bear markets is natural across worldwide markets. There are fat years and lean years. When market cycles turn up, contributions rise accordingly. How many dApps and portals have been and are being developed without touching system funds, without needing an EmCom, without an Oversight Committee, and without 5 additional governance structures (all proposed in the WPS). What libertarian-rooted, free market-loving, voluntary system relies on adding additional bureaucracy?

Ok get out of the tech mentality real world needs marketing and tons of it ... Who's going to fund that ??

Joe11:19:37 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Ok get out of the tech mentality real world needs marketing and tons of it ... Who's going to fund that ??

See the 2nd paragraph of pvs statement

Spamoi11:19:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Ok get out of the tech mentality real world needs marketing and tons of it ... Who's going to fund that ??

Did bitcoin made that much marketing ?

Joe11:19:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Ok get out of the tech mentality real world needs marketing and tons of it ... Who's going to fund that ??

Organic ebb and flow of development and demand is more desirable than attempts to artificially stimulate growth through inflation and a worker proposal system. Developers can use common entrepreneurial tactics to build and develop their own projects; e.g., relationship building, marketing efforts, requests for community sponsorship and more. Projects that do not receive funding can reveal a natural mechanism that gauges community interest in the project or the developer's ability to perform competitively as an entrepreneur. This guards the community from project spam.

Joe11:20:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Spamoi

Did bitcoin made that much marketing ?

Joe11:20:44 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Ok get out of the tech mentality real world needs marketing and tons of it ... Who's going to fund that ??

Krishna Yogi11:22:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Again get into real world ... Why does Amazon Microsoft all spend billions in marketing ??

Joe11:24:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Again get into real world ... Why does Amazon Microsoft all spend billions in marketing ??

I noted this in 1st paragraph of pvs statement. Touching system funds for marketing is not the community's duty to pay for. Each project can participate in the free market on the backs of their own labor and capacity to team build and grow relationships that supplement their weaknessess, marketing per your example.

Ben Mason11:24:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

The terms of the token sale were designed to mitigate regulatory risk and certainly were not the motivation for people to move $4bn from their pockets to B1. “The tokens are worthless but if you donate money we will use it to build amazing blockchain tech and make the world a better place” pretty much sums up how $4bn found its way to B1 and absolutely creates a clear set of expectations as to what donated funds are to be used for. Approaching the current situation with “the thanks for all the fish, read the fine print and we are just doing what the other big tech companies do”, imho, simply doesn’t cut it. B1 ostensibly exists to change the paradigm, not entrench it. There is no precedent for financial reporting on billions of dollars in donated/community funding for a blockchain tech company because it’s never happened before – it’s up to B1 to create the precedents. I fully understand and sympathize with the douchebaggery prevalent in the space as I’ve had front row seats for many years. No one is asking B1 to drop their shorts. But there’s a hell of a big distance between where things stand today and letting it all hang out. B1 could absolutely be providing high level breakdowns showing the flow/allocation of token sale funds without putting the company at some type of competitive disadvantage. Back to the pie charts – create a community funds page and show breakdowns. As individual products are released, add a wedge to show how much of the community pot was spent. Show us how much has been spent on maintaining and updating the EOSIO code base. For the money allocated to VC, give us another pie chart showing how much went to which shop, then have each individual company produce their own pie charts showing where they invested the money. Show us how much annual income the treasury is producing. Have the lawyers put all sorts of disclaimers on the info. But make the effort to show the community how the money is being put to work. With regard to governance I can’t disagree that B1 is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. At this point, however, B1 participation is critical and without it EOS growth and adoption is going to be severely stunted. Big things are coming down the pipe in the next couple quarters and if EOS doesn’t have a strong foundation in place before the next wave hits it’s going to get ugly. It is blatantly obvious the community needs help getting the governance mechanism set up and functioning. Governance doesn’t have to be perfect, it just has to start working. Once functional the community can debate and tweak till the cows come home. But it has to start now so there is time to work out the kinks before any real adoption starts. B1 needs to step in and say “Here is what we believe is the right thing to do, and we are going to vote accordingly”. B1 can listen to feedback and adjust as time goes on, but it needs to act. Per my last, it is best for B1 to start participating now with a small and tight community than it will be 6-12 months down the road when the user base starts going exponential. A constitution must be ratified. Voting must be incentivized. ECAF has to be disbanded. 1T/1V. REX implemented. The issues have been debated, are well understood and need to be parked so we can move on to bigger and better things. Abstaining has been a good policy thus far, but time’s up. I am very happy to hear B1 will be publishing a roadmap! But the timing is not very helpful; please consider higher level/sooner as opposed to detailed/later. Regarding public vs. private implementation, I sincerely hope all donated funds and frankly the vast majority of B1 resources/effort are devoted to the public chain. If B1 is serious about its vision of change the public infrastructure has to be rock solid before anything else is built out. I’m sure B1 is positioned to make incomprehensible amounts of money for shareholders doing private chains. But please change the world before you line pockets.

Just perfectly stated ❤️. @blooms05 there is no getting away from the fact that you have the world at your feet and the hope for a better future of so many. So far, you are doing great, truly magnificently great. You’ve accomplished a heck of a lot in a small amount of time and I appreciate that for the most part, the rest of us can only see the tip of the iceberg. Gravity is building around eos.io and I’ve never been more hopeful for true change than I am today. Please, do everything you can to maximise the potential for integrity and the perception of integrity for the existing public eos.io chains. It is within these public chains that there resides the greatest potential for resilience, co-operation, innovation and connection.....the seeds of the change so many hope for. I agree with Old Man, it seems the time for Block One to act decisively is at hand.

Urius11:26:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Old Man

Not a vendetta but trying to reconcile words (pre-launch) and actions (eight months later). I haven't asked for delivery of killer dapps, but I sure as hell want to know what's in the pipeline. I have asked, and continue to bitch loudly, for official tools to help folks be confident in interacting with their tokens and participating in governance. The fact that these official tools - in gui form - are not yet accessible by the community is absurd. Imagine for a moment B1 had released a simple - gui - wallet with voting functionality within a month of mainnet launch. Where would be today? The hackathons, vc funding, mainnet code/performance updates etc. are great and as expected. What is not expected is B1 circling the wagons on product development, not producing official wallet/voting tools, not participating in governance, not producing the token sale audit, dodging questions on use and status of token sale funds etc.

They have to tread pretty carefully - given regulatory arena they play in right now.

Urius11:27:55 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

With more "voice" and voting from holders, along with "competing" Tools, I think they would be in a better position to share some of their products.

Krishna Yogi11:27:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

EOS doesn't exist in vaccum we have 1000s of competitors ...... We need all the marketing and all the good devs and projects we need .... Good devs alone will not do the magic ....coz there could be another clone ... Which can get say 100 million users and all the dev will jump quickly ...... The basic layer should focus on getting as many users as possible and making the base layer as sound as possible ( that requires money too ) while devs work on the top layer

Susen MEET.ONE | cpubaole.com11:28:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

BOS sidechain will launch at 13:00 UTC on January 17th. http://MEET.ONE wallet has already supported BOS sidechain. Users can update MEET.ONE wallet to the latest version and quickly switch the accounts.

Matt 🙈 Trybe.one I WORBLI.io11:28:28 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZaRuymJY7o

ssurmas - worbli.io11:28:28 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Exciting for WORBLI.

Hazizul Hanafi @Nas410 level 1511:29:31 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Hi guys... Can anyone help me tag of this group purposes... I'm still in fog here

Joe11:29:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Marketing is a colllective effort, the sum of individuals and their ability to compete as an entreprneur. WPS funded with inflation is a tax on the EOS community to fund efforts they have no choice in funding.

Joe11:31:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Impatience for development pacing and network effect growth falls on def ears for me. Impatience is a humanity problem, not an EOS problem.

Krishna Yogi11:31:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Marketing is a colllective effort, the sum of individuals and their ability to compete as an entrepreneurs. WPS funded with inflation is a tax on the EOS community to fund efforts they have no choice in funding.

Not exactly .. there is a minimum voting goal is that is required for things to pass .. if no proposals pass the coins are out of circulation ... It's definitely not a tax ( tax means involuntary and is equivalent to theft )

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)11:31:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Again get into real world ... Why does Amazon Microsoft all spend billions in marketing ??

IMO Marketing shouldn't be funded by WPS as we it couldn't be quantitied, will open voids for corruption to follow. B1 contribution of $1billion and hackathon may bring far better good than taxing community members for some sort of marketing which may/may not guarantee returns. Though, I hope we see marketing of dApplication and business developed on the top of EOS in future as they would be more attractive for regular audience but that could be shifted to dApp layer inflation.

Krishna Yogi11:32:31 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

IMO Marketing shouldn't be funded by WPS as we it couldn't be quantified, will open voids for corruption to follow. B1 contribution of $1billion and hackathon may bring far better good than taxing community members for some sort of marketing which may/may not guarantee returns. Though, I hope we see marketing of dApplication and business developed on the top of EOS in future as they would be more attractive for regular audience but that could be shifted to dApp layer inflation.

Look at dash vs BTC vs bch adoption in Venezuela .. and come back with a proper answer

Joe11:33:48 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Inflation itself is the tax. Some inflation is necessary for the chain to operate, but WPS is asking for 1M tokens for 6 months, the EmCom of 7 people will judge a competition that spins off 5 governing bodies/structures, and Oversight Committee will be formed, and the EmCom will disband after 6 months. The 5 governing bodies/structures are then funded indefinitely through 2.0% inflation.

Krishna Yogi11:34:53 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Inflation itself is the tax. Some inflation is necessary for the chain to operate, but WPS is asking for 1M tokens for 6 months, the EmCom of 7 people will judge a competition that spins off 5 governing bodies/structures, an Oversight Committee will be formed, and the EmCom will disband after 6 months. The 5 governing bodies/structures are then funded indefinitely through 2.0% inflation.

EOS drops and goes up by 20% in day ...2% is not even a rounding error ...

Joe11:35:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Now you're into hypotheticals of speculation. I'm arguing fixed, measurable knowns of perpetual supply dilution.

Krishna Yogi11:35:25 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

In 20 years we could look into this issue

Joe11:35:51 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Same as saying "Well, it's cancer, but we'll come back to this later."

Joe11:36:22 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It's systemic, it's effects are isidious.

Krishna Yogi11:36:31 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Now you're into hypotheticals of speculation. I'm arguing fixed, measurable knowns of perpetual supply dilution.

EOS is a corporation with coin holders voting ... Coin holders are investors and investors care about roi not philosophies

Krishna Yogi11:37:18 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Same as saying "Well, it's cancer, but we'll come back to this later."

Cancer in a small tiny form exists in all of us .. until it affects the host it doesn't matter

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)11:37:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Look at dash vs BTC vs bch adoption in Venezuela .. and come back with a proper answer

Noted, I will look into it. I would say, give the network time, we are seeing rapid adoption of EOS and EOSIO based chains. I am certain that we would have far greater adoption than any of the project you mentioned.

Joe11:37:48 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

EOS is a corporation with coin holders voting ... Coin holders are investors and investors care about roi not philosophies

And if you're concerned about ROI, which none of my conversation as been about, then you're probably familiar with dilution of capacity yielding less CPU/Network per EOS token and supply vs demand. Why would you pay more money for a token that yields less CPU and Network?

Krishna Yogi11:38:33 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

EOS is a corporation with coin holders voting ... Coin holders are investors and investors care about roi not philosophies

B1 is the biggest voter and designed the system the way it is...and I agree with their business savvy Ness ... If not we could stick to eth itself and live in the geeks world

Joe11:38:49 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

Cancer in a small tiny form exists in all of us .. until it affects the host it doesn't matter

If we can't agree that cancer is bad, then I think we don't have a platform to argue on at all. :)

Krishna Yogi11:39:47 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

And if you're concerned about ROI, which none of my conversation has been about, then you're probably familiar with dilution of capacity yielding less CPU/Network per EOS token and supply vs demand. Why would you pay more money for a token that yields less CPU and Network?

I don't care about CPU or network only care about mass adoption and price appreciation .... Remember I can earn more than 2% through rex anyway in effect your CPU can still be gotten ...

Joe11:40:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

I don't care about CPU or network only care about mass adoption and price appreciation .... Remember I can earn more than 2% through rex anyway in effect your CPU can still be gotten ...

CPU and Network capacity is precisely what developers and users of the network need in this sytem.

Joe11:40:19 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

It's everything. It's the reason the land is valuable.

Krishna Yogi11:40:25 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

If we can't agree that cancer is bad, then I think we don't have a platform to argue on at all. :)

Cancer in tiny tiny form exists with all of us

Joe11:40:39 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

That's not arguing against my point, so I'll take it.

Sharif eosDublin | eosBootcamp.com11:41:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

How many token holders are concerned with the network resources of their tokens ? Large amounts of Genesis accounts are untouched Larger amounts rest on Exchanges. If the main argument against WPS is the corrosive effect of inflation on the token value/capacity then both sides are talking about different things with no way to prove a case.

Krishna Yogi11:41:36 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

CPU and Network capacity is precisely what developers and users of the network need in this system.

It's a very limited view which again doesn't matter for next 20 years ... Facebook has 1.5 billion MAU let's get there first I don't care how we get there ...

Krishna Yogi11:42:48 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

We have almost 10000 dau today ... That's shameful to me

Cherry Golubovska11:43:01 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

It's a very limited view which again doesn't matter for next 20 years ... Facebook has 1.5 billion MAU let's get there first I don't care how we get there ...

Smiles you really have to care on how we going to get there but it's certain that we are still gonna get there soon or rather I think it would be this year 😁

Joe11:43:27 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sharifbouktila

Are you arguing now that supply and demand do impact token value? Weeks ago we agreed, I thought, that arguing speculation isn't defensible from either side? For this reason, I've taken the argument to other positions because I agree with you.

Krishna Yogi11:43:31 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

cherry360

Smiles you really have to care on how we going to get there but it's certain that we are still gonna get there soon or rather I think it would be this year 😁

Let's hope for the best 🙏

Joe11:45:50 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

If we want to talk about price up or down now, then I'll pass over the low hanging fruit that is supply vs demand and go to the "corrossive" nature of token supply reducing the potency of each EOS in their claims on system resources.

Joe11:46:32 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

There's the systemic, insidious problem with inflation unchecked.

Krishna Yogi11:48:00 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

There's the systemic, insidious problem with inflation unchecked.

For the 100th time we can fix it later ... Let's focus on bigger things

Joe11:48:55 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

"We can fix it later." 🤔

Sharif eosDublin | eosBootcamp.com11:49:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Again, we aren't "argueing" about the mechanics of token supply. A Telos gives you 4 x CPU as an EOS because it's token supply is 4x lower (give or take) The point is, when does inflation (on EOSIO) become harmful? And how do we define "harmful" or success for that matter. The math only works if more people want to buy in to the network than to sell. How much do they care about an inflation rate that has a half life of 15 years?

Joe11:51:14 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sharifbouktila

Considering the first 10 years of BTC have flown by from my perspective, time is relative. I can't rely on perpetual upgrades outpacing perpetual capacity dilution, but we're back to square 1 on that.

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)11:51:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

krishnayogi

For the 100th time we can fix it later ... Let's focus on bigger things like mass adoption

Overlooking the consequences could deteriorate the network to the point where it won't be fixable.

Sharif eosDublin | eosBootcamp.com11:51:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Every other EOSIO chain launching has some type of WPS / Development fund. So I guess we will see how it works in the wild soon.

Joe11:53:05 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Also, I'm not against all inflation. Producer Pay needs to go under the microscope at some point and I look forward to that. Inflation is absolutely necessary in that instance.

Joe11:54:15 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

I suppose my greatest hope would be to retire or indefintely burn the 4% until the community can agree on something. But here we have referendum and maybe that's the start of something great. I think so.

Sharif eosDublin | eosBootcamp.com11:58:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

My idea would be to immediately cut the inflation rate in half from 5% to 2.5% Hold eosio.savings for a "rainy day" or until we figure shit out. There is a lot in the WPS proposal that I don't like, but can live with. The team who put it together aren't strangers to the community, they have been working on this since March (I know because I was on the working group when it was getting started) I'd rather build EOS playing offence (investing in ideas which might not work) than defence (concern about unknowables)

Sharif eosDublin | eosBootcamp.com12:01:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

We've somehow got a market which believes that the tokens which some software creates every day are worth something. Quite amazing really. There is value which can be used for good things sitting in an account because we don't have the balls to try something brave which will likely fail.

Krishna Yogi12:01:35 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

i personally think we need all the money we could get ... we are fighting against multiple entrenched gaints .... inflation not more than 10% is not a concern for now

Joe12:05:33 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sharifbouktila

This is part of where we disagree due to immeasurable hypotheticals. We know the economics of resource corrosion. We have seen higher dApp use than any other chain. We have community portals. We might have the largest dApp ecosysem of any chain already in 7 months. The pacing is fantastic from my perspective. I may be a new name and picture, but I've been outspoken and observant since 2017 in EOS. I watch intently the developments across channels and am familiar with the efforts involved in the current WPS proposal and the history of those with their names on the proposal.

gfs sDG12:05:52 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe12:08:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Part of my position is that I believe pacing has been natural and fine. Look at all that's onboarded during a bear market, and that's typically a period of contraction across all industry.

Sharif eosDublin | eosBootcamp.com12:09:01 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Joe

Thanks for pushing the agenda. Constructive disagreement is always welcome. We should run a mile if everyone starts agreeing on everything.

Joe12:09:57 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

sharifbouktila

Thanks for pushing the agenda and advancing the debate. Constructive disagreement is always welcome. We should run a mile if everyone starts agreeing on everything.

💪 As long as BPCs like you are here, this community will be in good hands.

Tom Fu | GenerEOS | eostoolkit.io12:31:09 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOSToolkit is now in 3 New Languages: Chinese, Vietnamese and Korean. Here's my tutorial on the 3 new languages that have been added on to the EOStoolkit.io. Now it will be easier for the Asian EOS community to access the features the EOS blockchain has to offer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDTbYckeMKY&feature=youtu.be

EOSlots ADMIN12:32:38 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Thierry - EOS Nation's Ambassador12:42:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

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Tim | GenerEOS12:47:18 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

New Year New @genereos https://medium.com/@generEOS/nathan-rempel-moves-to-advisor-role-e8e734d7ddc7

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:02:48 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

https://cryptonomist.ch/en/2019/01/16/eos-decentralised-referendum-system/

Tom Fu | GenerEOS | eostoolkit.io13:03:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Thierry_Stoudmann

🔥🔥🔥💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥🔥

😂👌

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:05:13 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Ben Mason

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mandn13:24:13 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

https://cryptonomist.ch/en/2019/01/16/eos-decentralised-referendum-system/

Maybe in another 7 months there will be enough votes to pass one of these proposals.

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:27:17 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mandnmandn

Maybe in another 4 months there will be enough votes to pass one of these proposals.

maybe... don't knoe if it's enough of an indicator for BPs if a proposal expires without achieving the treshold. We'll probably need to figure out some other ways of handling them or we can simply continue writing, creating videos and trying to get as much community involvement as possible 😐

mandn13:45:21 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

Voting is compulsory in Australia. Failure to vote at a federal election without a valid and sufficient reason is an offence under section 245 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918. You are required to pay the $20 penalty.

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:45:59 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mandnmandn

if you make it compulsory on eos people will simply sell their tokens

mandn13:47:52 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

After mainnet activation votes took so long I would have thought it would be addressed before referendum would be put in place. That was a clear sign that people are holding EOS just hoping it will go up in value.

FinancialFreedomFighter13:51:38 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mandnmandn

Like every other token and chain that has existed. PPL are gonna speculate regardless.

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:52:18 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mandnmandn

After mainnet activation votes took so long I would have thought it would be addressed before referendum was put in place. That was a clear sign that people are holding EOS just hoping it will go up in value. Mainnet will get left behind because it will take too long for changes to be implemented.

that's true. Additionally, the activation had been pushed by an exchange, it would have taken even longer. We need to find a way of bringing people to vote. Monetary incentives won't work so much IMO.

mandn13:53:14 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

No way should people be rewarded for voting

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:56:01 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

mandnmandn

No way should people be rewarded for voting

what do you think about Brendan's proposal?

Rhett -EOS Amsterdam13:56:14 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

104.000 account have done nothing since launch. Voting and passing the 15% is up to the top 1000 accounts. They own 87%.

Rhett -EOS Amsterdam13:57:01 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Brendan’s proposal is not getting the Top 1000 support, I think.

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:57:03 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Rhett_EOS_Amsterdam

104.000 account have done nothing since launch. Voting and passing the 15% is up to the top 1000 accounts. They own 87%.

shall we sell them a message prompting them to vote? 🙂

Long Do13:57:54 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Is Eos Chinese Movement coin?

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy13:58:19 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

com_vo_nau12

Is Eos Chinese Gov coin?

what's chiese movement?

高

高和光13:59:36 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Tanish EOSMetal (eosmetaliobp)14:00:41 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Rhett_EOS_Amsterdam

Brendan’s proposal is not getting the Top 1000 support, I think.

Brendan's proposal?

Pi14:01:26 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

com_vo_nau12

Is Eos Chinese Gov coin?

Everything is Chinese now except for Trump who belongs to Russia

Rhett -EOS Amsterdam14:01:41 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

EOS is adopted in China a bit more then rest of the world. But adoption is 0,03% of Facebook's. There is work to be done.

Bohdan Attic Lab14:06:16 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Congratulations💥💥💥 The #Bos Mainnet is live!

T7814:06:30 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

Rhett_EOS_Amsterdam

EOS is adopted in China a bit more then rest of the world. But adoption is 0,03% of Facebook's. There is work to be done.

quit a bit yeah

Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy14:06:31 - 17 Jan 2019 [UTC]

tanishv

Brendan's proposal?

http://eostelegraph.com/brendan-blumer-proposes-changes-to-the-eos-voting-system/

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