Thursday 13 December 2018

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Richie M | Block Aid11:13:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
From my experiences and questions, and looking at profiles etc i believe theyre a great team. Eosblack was terrible. For me personally no flags for me
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pad11:14:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
with respect that is naive.
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Henri B11:14:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
But actually it is shameful that betdice coding is so inefficient that it's using 28x cpu than required
stop your cheap fud...we all know you have an agenda , you have economical interest with a competitor Of dice, and by the way their contract is the most efficient after audit
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Taiwan Retriever ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ11:15:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
But actually it is shameful that betdice coding is so inefficient that it's using 28x cpu than required
doesnt it also 50x its txs?
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Taiwan Retriever ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ11:15:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i dont understand how their txs could be so high
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Richie M | Block Aid11:16:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Im one who DYOR as i see you do also. Imo no red flags.
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pad11:16:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
block_aid
Im one who DYOR as i see you do also. Imo no red flags.
have you seen the introductory youtube video?
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pad11:17:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
the opening sentence is a hard claim that robots are coming to take over the world. followed by "this is a fact."
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pad11:17:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
later in the video it mentions a carmel user that is purportedly afraid of the skynet takeover
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pad11:17:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
and how it is important that we must make technology work for us rather than against us.
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pad11:17:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
and honestly, i am absolutely fucking lost my man.
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SID11:17:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Henri B
stop your cheap fud...we all know you have an agenda , you have economical interest with a competitor Of dice, and by the way their contract is the most efficient after audit
Lol... That's what Dan claimed that they can reduce cpu usage by over 80%.. Maybe you should blame Dan... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Richie M | Block Aid11:19:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
padderson
and honestly, i am absolutely fucking lost my man.
Technically theyre right, machines are taking over
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Taiwan Retriever ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ11:19:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
padderson
later in the video it mentions a carmel user that is purportedly afraid of the skynet takeover
lolwat
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Richie M | Block Aid11:19:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Auto driving cars, auto warehouse picking bots, and much more
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pad11:19:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
WoAiTaiMei
lolwat
https://youtu.be/qrHBVDbrOOY
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pad11:19:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
WoAiTaiMei
lolwat
youtu . be/qrHBVDbrOOY
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Henri B11:19:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Lol... That's what Dan claimed that they can reduce cpu usage by over 80%.. Maybe you should blame Dan... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
yes we all Know that Dan suggested and dice team is working on a solution - among all gambling contracts theire is the least impactful, again we all know you have an agenda...dont waist time with your little fud
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Richie M | Block Aid11:19:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AI is outpacing alot of traditional roles
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pad11:20:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
well. ok. fair. i guess.
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pad11:20:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
but what's up w/ the team just having 20% of the entire supply and us being told to simply trust them?
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Z11:21:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
padderson
and honestly, i am absolutely fucking lost my man.
Ok are you sure
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pad11:21:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
for them to have seen the aftermath of eosblack and not taken preventative measures to gain the trust of the eos community is alarming
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pad11:22:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
is the carmel team open to some type of lockup and/or slow release?
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SID11:22:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Henri B
yes we all Know that Dan suggested and dice team is working on a solution - among all gambling contracts theire is the least impactful, again we all know you have an agenda...dont waist time with your little fud
Dude... I don't care what you think... But this is the truth that we all are facing cpu shortage because of a specific dapp using too much cpu... If you think it's a fud then you are welcome
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pad11:22:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
this can be accomplished via smart contract or even traditional legal agreements.
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Richie M | Block Aid11:22:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
They have overhauled their WP in progress
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pad11:22:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
block_aid
They have overhauled their WP in progress
this doesn't answer the question
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pad11:23:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
if anything it serves to deflect from it.
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Richie M | Block Aid11:23:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
For me i wouldnt shut them down, as i know the WP is being overhauled. Theyre in my eyes assessing things and ensuring theyre going to try and deliver a quality dap...thwyve got time and we all have
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pad11:24:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hi admin good buy sir
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Taiwan Retriever ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ11:24:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
is betdice open source?
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Sandwich11:26:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
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pad11:27:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
what is the logic behind not discussing eosio based airdrops in here? i am curious. is that new?
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pad11:28:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
if we can't discuss eosio projects in the eos chat that leaves us with pretty limited scope of what can be discussed.
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Trizle111:29:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
jayyyyyzzzzz
Try 2025
How about 2050
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Jammy Dodger11:35:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
CoinMan0
Crypto dead or not?
Shit crypto dying. Quality crypto rising.
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Taiwan Retriever ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ11:35:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
is betdice open source?
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Gary W11:52:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What happened to the CPU? Mortgage also indicates insufficient resources?
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Art Vandalay11:52:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We have to start demanding CPU resolving ๐Ÿ˜„
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Art Vandalay11:53:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
They are working on RAM..wtf
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Art Vandalay11:53:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Address the real issue Block.one
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Art Vandalay11:53:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Address the real issue, block,one
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Art Vandalay11:53:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Bring out the hayforks
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Art Vandalay11:53:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
yellow vests on
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Art Vandalay11:53:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
L'liberti!
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Sandwich11:53:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
๐Ÿคฆ‍♂️
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Art Vandalay11:53:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
๐Ÿ˜„
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Art Vandalay11:54:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
EOS = Macrou
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Simon Says11:56:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
Address the real issue, block,one
[In reply to ac] Resources are everyone's duty dev'ing on the platform. B1, BPs, dApp devs, do not shoulder the burden individually. Resources are finite - though scaling is a forever ongoing pursuit, each must work toward increasing efficiencies to scale the network most effectively.
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pad11:56:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
due-diligence research on eosio projects for the balance and health of the ecosystem to yellow vest cpu revolutions
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pad11:56:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
0 to 100
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Art Vandalay11:57:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Simon Says
Resources are everyone's duty dev'ing on the platform. B1, BPs, dApp devs, do not shoulder the burden individually. Resources are finite - though scaling is a forever ongoing pursuit, each must work toward increasing efficiencies to scale the network most effectively.
But why did they start off with so little resources? Couldnt the anticipate 30k users?
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Art Vandalay11:57:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
or did they not really believe in that?
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Art Vandalay11:58:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
padderson
due-diligence research on eosio projects for the balance and health of the ecosystem to yellow vest cpu revolutions
Well..then the people who are in the KNOW, should communicate better what the facts and realities are. Because right now what I see is complaning about CPU and please FIX CPU. So someone write a damn article or something that explains exactly what is going on, why and the only solutions. Right now people seem to believe that block one could just increase max CPU
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Art Vandalay11:58:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
so help educate us laymen
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Art Vandalay11:59:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I will happily write an article too, but there is no good info on what exactly is the problem we are facing. Scaling yes..but its so diffuse. Why is the network so little? Why is it congested? Why cant there be more CPU?
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Art Vandalay11:59:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why is it limited
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SID11:59:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://github.com/EOSIO/eosio.contracts/releases/tag/v1.6.0-rc1
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Art Vandalay12:01:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
well..WHEN?
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Crypto Tim12:01:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/dq3_C0xnFCw
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Art Vandalay12:01:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
we all knew it theoretically would come one day
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Art Vandalay12:06:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I dont think Scatter is the issue here..scatter works fine
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Art Vandalay12:06:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
EOS does not
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Chamith12:14:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I can just imagine the amount of FUD that’s going to happen about the network suspension for the upgrade
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SID12:15:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
chamith888
I can just imagine the amount of FUD that’s going to happen about the network suspension for the upgrade
Fudders never gonna stop
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PhanthanhCool12:15:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
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pad12:15:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
LifeLibertyCrypto
https://youtu.be/dq3_C0xnFCw
>starteos is also accused of hosting 2 block producers and threatens the future of the eos blockchain.
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pad12:16:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
that isn't a violation of the bp agreement afaik.
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Ben12:16:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
wen homeless sir?
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Art Vandalay12:16:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
soon homeless
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Art Vandalay12:16:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
dear
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Ben12:16:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
right
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MaxDapp12:16:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
we need to sort out cpu fast
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MaxDapp12:16:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
come on rex
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MaxDapp12:17:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
rex won't solve user issues with cpu tho, we need projects to be able to buy cpu on behalf of users
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SID12:22:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
MaxDapp
rex won't solve user issues with cpu tho, we need projects to be able to buy cpu on behalf of users
First of all dapps need to optimize their codes...
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Art Vandalay12:25:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
First of all dapps need to optimize their codes...
But how much does that matter? If 20 dapps optimize their code..OK..but what about the next 100 dapps?
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Art Vandalay12:25:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
we'll run into the same problem in like a week
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Art Vandalay12:25:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
or month
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SID12:25:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
That time only IBC can help
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Art Vandalay12:25:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Can someone explain to me why they created EOS with such limited resources? Why is the CPU limit so low? Can someone explain this in layman terms?
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Art Vandalay12:26:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Did not Dan anticipate more than 30k dapp users?
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SID12:26:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Eos is designed to be constantly updated
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Art Vandalay12:26:14 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So..why arent they updating it?
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Art Vandalay12:26:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why do we have this CPU problem in the first place?
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Art Vandalay12:26:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why did they not create it with more CPU available?
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Biondi12:26:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
MaxDapp
rex won't solve user issues with cpu tho, we need projects to be able to buy cpu on behalf of users
Rex allows you to rent cpu with stuck account if im not wrong The change for dapps to give cpu to users will come after. That is considered major update as source needs to allow
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SID12:26:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
So..why arent they updating it?
Because Dan want me to gift cheap eos on Christmas ๐Ÿคถ
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Art Vandalay12:27:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Because Dan want me to gift cheap eos on Christmas ๐Ÿคถ
Thats funny..but seriously though
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Biondi12:27:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
Why do we have this CPU problem in the first place?
Userbase expand faster than anticipated
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Art Vandalay12:27:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
REALLY?
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Biondi12:27:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Just rent from chintai
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Art Vandalay12:27:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
They didnt think 20-30k users would come within a few months?
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Art Vandalay12:27:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
They didnt really believe in EOS then?
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Biondi12:27:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Also dapps consuming that many actions were not anticipated
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Art Vandalay12:28:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why couldnt they have anticipated lets say 500k users..and be safe?
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Art Vandalay12:28:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
instead of 20k
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SID12:28:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
Just rent from chintai
Chintai is too small compared to Rex
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Art Vandalay12:28:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
Also dapps consuming that many actions were not anticipated
these geniouses did not see gambling and gaming being the first utility for EOS?
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Art Vandalay12:28:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hard to believe
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Biondi12:28:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Chintai is too small compared to Rex
Rex is coming. Its in next release candidate
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SID12:29:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
Rex is coming. Its in next release candidate
It's already here
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Kevin12:29:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It's not the number of users. It's the number of transactions those users are doing. Dice uses a lot of CPU per transaction.
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Biondi12:29:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
It's already here
Oh isit?
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SID12:29:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://github.com/EOSIO/eosio.contracts/releases/tag/v1.6.0-rc1
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Biondi12:29:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
https://github.com/EOSIO/eosio.contracts/releases/tag/v1.6.0-rc1
Yeah. Next release candidate
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SID12:29:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
Oh isit?
Check this.. Released today
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Biondi12:29:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We are running 1.5 now no?
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Art Vandalay12:30:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
It's already here
Can you please stop with this?
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SID12:30:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
We are running 1.5 now no?
Oh my bad... ... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Art Vandalay12:30:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Its not here
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง12:30:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What does rex stand for ? Is it resource exchange ?
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Biondi12:30:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So if all testing goes well then it will be included in core contracts for 1.6
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Biondi12:30:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It is very very soon
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Art Vandalay12:30:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You did this last time to with the multithrread thing ๐Ÿ˜„
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SID12:30:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
What does rex stand for ? Is it resource exchange ?
Yes
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Biondi12:30:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Next update will be 1.6
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Art Vandalay12:30:35 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You said "CPU problem solved. Multithread implemented" lol
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Art Vandalay12:30:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
and nothing happened
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง12:30:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Yes
Thanks
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Art Vandalay12:30:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So dont come here with premature REX announcements
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Art Vandalay12:30:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
REX is NOT here..or am I blind?
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Art Vandalay12:30:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
where is it?
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Art Vandalay12:31:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
link?
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Aravind12:31:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
Next update will be 1.6
There was 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 ?? I have been living under a rock ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Biondi12:31:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
aravind1990
There was 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 ?? I have been living under a rock ๐Ÿ˜‚
Yeah
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SID12:31:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
You did this last time to with the multithrread thing ๐Ÿ˜„
True... Well its a mirage effect
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Biondi12:31:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Its node version. Transparent to you guys
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Art Vandalay12:31:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
what does that mean?
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Biondi12:31:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You can see the version by going to get info page
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Aravind12:31:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mirage = it looks like something but it's not really there
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SID12:31:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
what does that mean?
Means wait for Rex is too long.. ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Biondi12:31:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Example is https://api.eosdetroit.io/v1/chain/get_info
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Aravind12:32:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mostly a pool of water
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Biondi12:32:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You can see they are running current version 1.5
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SID12:32:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
aravind1990
Mirage = it looks like something but it's not really there
This
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Art Vandalay12:32:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
yes..but don't spread lies and say its here
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Aravind12:32:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Puddle
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Art Vandalay12:32:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
when it is not
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Biondi12:32:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So 1.6 will have rex contract inside
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Art Vandalay12:32:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Rex is NOT here
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Enrique | EOS DAPP STARS12:32:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Its there but its not really here
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Art Vandalay12:32:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
its no where to be seen
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SID12:32:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
aravind1990
Mostly a pool of water
In desert ๐Ÿœ
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Biondi12:32:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
Rex is NOT here
It is coming, you are expecting alot from 6 month old chain
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Art Vandalay12:32:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
expecting it to work is too much?
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Aravind12:32:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Even on roads I always see a puddle of water only ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Biondi12:32:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Eos development is moving very fast
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Kevin Rose - EOS New York12:32:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/theeosmainnet
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Art Vandalay12:32:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
go back to eth then ๐Ÿ˜„
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Art Vandalay12:33:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
Eos development is moving very fast
where? all I see is CPU congestion because a few thousand people play dice
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Enrique | EOS DAPP STARS12:34:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
where? all I see is CPU congestion because a few thousand people play dice
Nowhere. Youre better off selling your EOS and using TRON.
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SID12:34:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
where? all I see is CPU congestion because a few thousand people play dice
Because dice team coded to use too much cpu.. ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ According to dan they can reduce cpu usage by more than 80%
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Art Vandalay12:34:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Enrique | EOS DAPP STARS
Nowhere. Youre better off selling your EOS and using TRON.
oh..man..these "arguments" ...not good
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Biondi12:34:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I am lazy to try and explain to you
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SID12:34:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Enrique | EOS DAPP STARS
Nowhere. Youre better off selling your EOS and using TRON.
This..
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Art Vandalay12:34:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i wish you had an argument
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Biondi12:34:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You should cool down
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Art Vandalay12:35:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
instead of these strawmen
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Art Vandalay12:35:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
personal attacks
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Art Vandalay12:35:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I prefer arguments
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Art Vandalay12:36:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This is a problem for me..when I ask questions and then when people obviously dont have an answer they resort to personal attacks "you're stupid!" "why dont you sell then!?" are not argument and it means you dont know how to answer my legit question. I'm not selling EOS, but no one can explain why CPU is such a big hurdle
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Art Vandalay12:36:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why did they create EOS with this limit
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Art Vandalay12:37:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
there must be a reason other than that they did not anticipate such a big userbase
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Art Vandalay12:37:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What a stupid decicions that would have been in that case...
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Art Vandalay12:38:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If you don't know thats fine..but please dont resolve to petty " so sell your eos then, buhuhu" non-arguments
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Art Vandalay12:38:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Its what the eth-boys do
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Biondi12:39:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
Why did they create EOS with this limit
It is because every network has to have spam prevention, in eth is gas, in eos it is cpu
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Biondi12:39:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So pay for the resource you want to use
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Art Vandalay12:40:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But why was it set so low?
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Art Vandalay12:40:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why could it not be 10x higher or 100x higher?
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hapi Jay12:40:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i thought "CPU limit" can avoid waste CPU time , everyone want use CPU so pay more and get more .
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Biondi12:41:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Low?
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N12:41:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
3rd day still my CPU usage is at full? How long does it usually go back to 0 ms? Can anyone answer me please? Im new here ๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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Art Vandalay12:41:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
N123x4
3rd day still my CPU usage is at full? How long does it usually go back to 0 ms? Can anyone answer me please? Im new here ๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ
wait for rex
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Pappamo12:41:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
This is a problem for me..when I ask questions and then when people obviously dont have an answer they resort to personal attacks "you're stupid!" "why dont you sell then!?" are not argument and it means you dont know how to answer my legit question. I'm not selling EOS, but no one can explain why CPU is such a big hurdle
Fully agreed with you!
HJ
hapi Jay12:41:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
Why could it not be 10x higher or 100x higher?
10x can't resolve any problem , but maybe REX can . REX will blance it .
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Chamith12:41:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
In the past also we had upgrades but network was not affected. Why this one ?
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N12:41:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
wait for rex
Rex?
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Art Vandalay12:41:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hapi Jay
10x can't resolve any problem , but maybe REX can . REX will blance it .
Why not?
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Biondi12:41:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The higher you allow the limit, the bigger the variance between bp
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Biondi12:42:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This is still early stage
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Art Vandalay12:42:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
meaning?
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Biondi12:42:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Anyway im out
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Biondi12:42:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
meaning?
Means cpu will swing more with limit increase
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Art Vandalay12:42:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ok..it would be great if someone could explain this to "their grandma"
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Ponts12:42:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Telos group link please!
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Art Vandalay12:42:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
because if people understood this
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Biondi12:42:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Because different bp different specs
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Art Vandalay12:42:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
we wouldnt get as much fud
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง12:42:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
Its what the eth-boys do
Lol step away from your device. Drink some water and come back when the steam is no longer from your ears ;)
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Biondi12:42:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Anyway i am going out, have a good night being angry
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Art Vandalay12:43:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
Lol step away from your device. Drink some water and come back when the steam is no longer from your ears ;)
haha..i will
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Art Vandalay12:43:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SIipstream
Anyway i am going out, have a good night being angry
dont be so butthurt..youre doing a good job trying to explain
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Art Vandalay12:43:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
appreciate it
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง12:43:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
haha..i will
Goodman ha! ✌
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Biondi12:43:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
๐Ÿ‘
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Art Vandalay12:44:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So..right now I understand that to increase CPU would only swing more?
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Art Vandalay12:44:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
because of spam?
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SID12:44:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
This is a problem for me..when I ask questions and then when people obviously dont have an answer they resort to personal attacks "you're stupid!" "why dont you sell then!?" are not argument and it means you dont know how to answer my legit question. I'm not selling EOS, but no one can explain why CPU is such a big hurdle
Let me explain: 1. Inefficient coding of top dapps are using 10x more cpu than required... If they optimize their codes then instantly it can be relief to whole eos ecosystem... 2. Rex will provide large amounts of cpu resources for very cheap... For example u can get 1000 eos cpu for less than 1 eos for a month... B1 will rent their 100 million eos on Rex... 2. Multithred will increase cpu to several folds... 3. IBC and side chains can increase cpu to several folds too.. Ultimately its a process..
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Alexspi12:44:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Eos platform has been improving to run more efficient, the dapp developers also have to do their homework and develop efficient running dapps...they need good coding practices...they can't get lazy and start cloning bad code practices for dapp development
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Max12:44:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
because of spam?
https://www.alohaeos.com/tools/benchmarks
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Pappamo12:44:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We must desgin a system to protect Mainnet not going down due to CPU. Dapps must have their resources to serve their users or they must shut down!
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Biondi12:45:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
exporterimporter
So..right now I understand that to increase CPU would only swing more?
This refers to the cpu limit btw
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Biondi12:45:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Anyway chain is very very new
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Corts ๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก12:45:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
๐Ÿ˜ณ
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Biondi12:45:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Compare to btc and eth at 6 month we are moving considerbly fast
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Art Vandalay12:45:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Could some of you smart guys in here who understands this make a short recap/article about what CPU is and why its no point increasing it? It would be a VERY nice resource to have.
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Kevin Rose - EOS New York12:46:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Over the past 6 hours Block Producers, in conjunction with BlockOne, identified a vulnterability and patched it. No funds were at risk nor effected. dApp developers will need to pay attention to a patch being released in the next 24 hours as well as a few updates they will be required to make to adjust to changes made by top 21 producers. For all updates regarding the status of the EOS mainnet be sure to follow the official twitter account. https://twitter.com/theeosmainnet/status/1073190162744659968
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Art Vandalay12:46:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Make sure you explain it to "your grandma" or in this case - ME
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Art Vandalay12:46:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If you want, DM me the explanation..I will try to spread it like a virus
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hapi Jay12:46:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@bytemaster/proposal-for-eos-resource-renting-rent-distribution-9afe8fb3883a pls see this artile poster by BM . i understand they want slove this porblem by SEOS(idea) and REX(current solution)
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Art Vandalay12:46:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I will show it to everyone nagging about CPU
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Art Vandalay12:47:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
DM me if you like
HJ
hapi Jay12:48:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
see this article maybe help. https://medium.com/@bytemaster/proposal-for-eos-resource-renting-rent-distribution-9afe8fb3883a
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Art Vandalay12:48:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Gotta go..But do you see my point here? ALOT of people seem to believe that blockone can just issue more CPU. We need to raise awarness and increase the skill level amongst the regular dapp user. We have to understand what we are waiting for and not waiting for. Why the rex is or is not important. If someone could write a piece that is completely understandable for a non technical person that would be great. It would be a big service to EOS imo
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Art Vandalay12:48:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
l8r
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Art Vandalay12:49:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
it would help against the FUD at least and give ppl more confidence and understanding
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Anton EOS_v212:50:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
why cpu no resetey after 12 hours???
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SID12:51:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eosgoal
why cpu no reset after 12 hours??? other bug??
It takes 72 hours
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Neb - Infiniverse.net12:51:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Infiniverse beta has launched on iOS and Android! And, announcing our twitter contest, best in-app screenshots/video clips get INF prizes! https://medium.com/infiniverse/infiniverse-app-launch-and-twitter-contest-2e010bcecdff
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Neb - Infiniverse.net12:51:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
No, it takes 24 hours
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Anton EOS_v212:51:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
every days m cpu reset 33% today no ๐Ÿ™
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Alexspi12:53:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If dapps can be 80% more efficient as far as CPU goes, why not fix those issues by the dapp developer of all them dice games ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜ a lot of those are clones
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Daniel12:54:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
znebby
Infiniverse beta has launched on iOS and Android! And, announcing our twitter contest, best in-app screenshots/video clips get INF prizes! https://medium.com/infiniverse/infiniverse-app-launch-and-twitter-contest-2e010bcecdff
Nice Neb!
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Kevin Rose - EOS New York12:55:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Over the past 6 hours Block Producers, in conjunction with BlockOne, identified a vulnterability and patched it. No funds were at risk nor effected. dApp developers will need to pay attention to a patch being released in the next 24 hours as well as a few updates they will be required to make to adjust to changes made by top 21 producers. For all updates regarding the status of the EOS mainnet be sure to follow the official twitter account. https://twitter.com/theeosmainnet/status/1073199323775688705
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Urius12:58:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-12/china-now-data-mining-directly-brains-workers
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SID13:00:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
If dapps can be 80% more efficient as far as CPU goes, why not fix those issues by the dapp developer of all them dice games ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜ a lot of those are clones
So true... Instead of yelling at Dan for cpu.. Dapp devs should optimize their own codes.. It will instantly solve cpu shortage
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hapi Jay13:01:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
znebby
Infiniverse beta has launched on iOS and Android! And, announcing our twitter contest, best in-app screenshots/video clips get INF prizes! https://medium.com/infiniverse/infiniverse-app-launch-and-twitter-contest-2e010bcecdff
very cool !!
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Alexspi13:04:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
So true... Instead of yelling at Dan for cpu.. Dapp devs should optimize their own codes.. It will instantly solve cpu shortage
One dapp had bad code and prolly many other dapps copied it spreading like a virus so they need to fix their dapps...there should be an incentive for dapp developers to be rewarded for having the best efficient running dapps ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
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shadow13:05:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Wof310
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-12/china-now-data-mining-directly-brains-workers
Still better than facebook because at least you know upfront
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Florin Vw13:10:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Sai_Micromoney
Great news today Eos is now listed on all top exchanges including coinbase soon To celebrate all of our current exchanges listing We have commited a total of 5000 Bitcoin to give asay to our fans worldwide It has been an exciting past year . Thank you for your support see more below https://medlum.top/@eos?news
WARNING: biggest scam ever!!
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Sandwich13:11:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Florin Vw
WARNING: biggest scam ever!!
Thanks for catching that
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SID13:11:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
One dapp had bad code and prolly many other dapps copied it spreading like a virus so they need to fix their dapps...there should be an incentive for dapp developers to be rewarded for having the best efficient running dapps ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘
All the similar dapps need to be optimized
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SID13:13:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eosgoal
tron the best platform no cpu for dapp
Tron has transaction fees...
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Anton EOS_v213:19:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Tron has transaction fees...
no good for the future!!!
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Anton EOS_v213:20:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
why my cou today no reset 30% ???
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Anton EOS_v213:20:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
PLEASE FIX CPU @admin
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shadow13:20:35 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Tron has transaction fees...
no it doesn’t
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Sandwich13:21:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eosgoal
PLEASE FIX CPU @admin
lol.
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Anton EOS_v213:21:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
no it doesn’t
free tron for dapp no fee for transaction??
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SID13:21:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
no it doesn’t
It has if you do more transactions... Not a good model for mass adoption
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Anton EOS_v213:21:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
no goo eos model for mass adoption for cpu low low every days
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Sandwich13:21:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eosgoal
no goo eos model for mass adoption for cpu low low every days
Growing pains.
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shadow13:22:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
It has if you do more transactions... Not a good model for mass adoption
where can I read about that
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Sandwich13:22:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@bytemaster/developing-efficient-contracts-8a8e62011c6d
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SID13:22:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eosgoal
no goo eos model for mass adoption for cpu low low every days
We need to wait for Rex and multithred.. Ultimately only IBC can help
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SID13:22:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
https://medium.com/@bytemaster/developing-efficient-contracts-8a8e62011c6d
All those dapps need to optimize their codes
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SID13:23:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
We need to wait for Rex and multithred.. Ultimately only IBC can help
relased rex before 2018?? SID admin
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Sandwich13:24:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TRON costs around 0.1TRX per transaction btw. 20 votes on a media app = 2 TRX gone. 20 Votes on EOS = 20*ยตs (decayed over 24 ours, NOT gone)
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SID13:24:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eosgoal
relased rex before 2018?? SID admin
I am admin here???
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Anton EOS_v213:24:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
no sorry i have write for error sorry
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Anton EOS_v213:24:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
for you realsed rex before 2018??
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Alexspi13:25:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
All the similar dapps need to be optimized
for sure, there are about 200 dapps already and many of those are dice so they should really optimize their contracts to the dapp can run more efficiently so every eos user can benefit till the platform keeps developing for better optimization
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SID13:25:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
TRON costs around 0.1TRX per transaction btw. 20 votes on a media app = 2 TRX gone. 20 Votes on EOS = 20*ยตs (decayed over 24 hours, NOT gone)
This... Eos is doing almost 50 million transactions that means if we follow tron model then it will cost 5 million eos... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Mr.Z13:28:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
can anybody delegtate me some cpu so that I can buy more resorces throuh chintai?
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shadow13:30:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
TRON costs around 0.1TRX per transaction btw. 20 votes on a media app = 2 TRX gone. 20 Votes on EOS = 20*ยตs (decayed over 24 hours, NOT gone)
This Eradicates all my second thoughts, not that I had some in the first place :)
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SID13:30:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
for sure, there are about 200 dapps already and many of those are dice so they should really optimize their contracts to their dapps so it can run more efficiently, this way every eos user can benefit till the platform keeps developing for better optimization
1 Immediate solution is if it was possible to block those dapps by referendum.. All eos holders should vote to block their actions until they don't optimize their codes...
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SID13:30:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This will burn fire in their ass to come up with efficient codes
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Rugo13:31:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
enter REX
When Rex?
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Sandwich13:31:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
* It does appear the TRON fee schedule has changed, but there are indeed fees
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Sandwich13:31:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
However, I cannot find a single source of truth for what that fee is.
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Alexspi13:32:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
1 Immediate solution is if it was possible to block those dapps by referendum.. All eos holders should vote to block their actions until they don't optimize their codes...
i wouldn't block them but maybe there should be a way to make them pay for extra resources till they can change their code for better perfomance
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SID13:32:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
However, I cannot find a single source of truth for what that fee is.
20 sun
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Sandwich13:32:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It ranges from "The creator says there will be no fees" in april, to 0.1TRX in July to 0.0001 TRX on some random article in June.
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Anton EOS_v213:32:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
When Rex for released??
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Sandwich13:32:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
REX contract is done, up to block producers to implement.
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Anton EOS_v213:33:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
REX contract is done, up to block producers to implement.
For today? ๐Ÿ˜
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Alexspi13:34:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
the dapp developing is all brand new so many developers don't know on how to be more efficient...there a lot of standy bp's getting rewards not doing a whole lot, maybe they should lend a hand and provide some help for those running dapps to be more efficient
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Alexspi13:35:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
they should make a website to teach better coding practices for dapps being deployed on eos
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SID13:36:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
the dapp developing is all brand new so many developers don't know on how to be more efficient...there a lot of standy bp's getting rewards not doing a whole lot, maybe they should lend a hand and provide some help for those running dapps to be more efficient
True.. They can get paid by dapp owners
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Alexspi13:38:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
True.. They can get paid by dapp owners
yup, thats a great idea, there is always a solution to a problem ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
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Jonathan13:38:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
enter REX
Approximately when do you expect REX released?
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SID13:38:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Jlang86
Approximately when do you expect REX released?
It's upto block producers now
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Anton EOS_v213:39:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
It's upto block producers now
For today??? Pleas reply
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shadow13:39:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
1 Immediate solution is if it was possible to block those dapps by referendum.. All eos holders should vote to block their actions until they don't optimize their codes...
that’s not a solution, that’s one more mindless task. How do you want to maintain that once there will be thousands of different apps? I think it will regulate itself, when word comes out that you can roll the dice 1000 times on one dapp but only once on another, guess where the dice rolling will happen...
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)13:41:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/a5rr8o/why_is_it_some_people_smell_strongly_like_their/?utm_source=reddit-android
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SID13:41:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
that’s not a solution, that’s one more mindless task. How do you want to maintain that once there will be thousands of different apps? I think it will regulate itself, when word comes out that you can roll the dice 1000 times on one dapp but only once on another, guess where the dice rolling will happen...
Efficient coding is more important
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SID13:42:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
that’s not a solution, that’s one more mindless task. How do you want to maintain that once there will be thousands of different apps? I think it will regulate itself, when word comes out that you can roll the dice 1000 times on one dapp but only once on another, guess where the dice rolling will happen...
We don't need 1000 stupid dapps.. We need 100 efficient dapps
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Luis J.C13:42:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
100? To much...
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shadow13:42:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
We don't need 1000 stupid dapps.. We need 100 efficient dapps
And you want to let gamblers decide by referendum what efficient code is?
LJ
Luis J.C13:42:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Never we will need so many dapps
EE
Edmund Eifeler13:43:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
looooooooooooooool
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Anton EOS_v213:43:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Lool no gooodddddd!!!!
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Anton EOS_v213:43:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Please upgrade 21 block producer 50 CPU xeon for top!
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greywings31313:44:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
Berwick is worth listening to for sure. In my opinion.
What did he say lately? I've been offline
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SID13:45:14 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
And you want to let gamblers decide by referendum what efficient code is?
No.. But I just shared a way how to burn fire in the asses of those dapp devs who are using too much cpu.. Why should normal users suffer from lack of cpu..
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Alexspi13:45:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
And you want to let gamblers decide by referendum what efficient code is?
Dan wrote an article that some of the dapps like dice can be 80% more efficient...if they are more efficient that brings more value to the platform so every eos user can benefit from that plus eos is constantly evolving so in the future this is not an issue
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greywings31313:45:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
We don't need 1000 stupid dapps.. We need 100 efficient dapps
๐Ÿ‘
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SID13:46:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
Dan wrote an article that some of the dapps like dice can be 80% more efficient...if they are more efficient that brings more value to the platform so every eos user can benefit from that plus eos is constantly evolving so in the future this is not an issue
This...
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greywings31313:46:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
Dan wrote an article that some of the dapps like dice can be 80% more efficient...if they are more efficient that brings more value to the platform so every eos user can benefit from that plus eos is constantly evolving so in the future this is not an issue
Unfortunately, none.of.his suggestions are appealing to users. Users.dont.want.to deposit their.funds.before.playing.
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Alexspi13:46:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
the main point here is that dapps need to be more efficient to use the platform
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greywings31313:46:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
And.the.code.are separate for a reason, speacilly security
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SID13:47:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@eoscafeblock/what-rex-means-for-token-holders-238375dea397
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greywings31313:47:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
the main point here is that dapps need to be more efficient to use the platform
You dont get it, BetDice team could.be already coding EOS. They are a very capable team. They do know.what they are doing.
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Alexspi13:48:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
its like drving a a muscle car back from the 70's which is more efficient on gas, new car or the muscle car?
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Jason13:48:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Decentralized Google on it's way?
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Jason13:49:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Is it possible to have a search engine on EOSIO?
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Alexspi13:49:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i wold say new cars are more than 80% efficient
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greywings31313:50:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
its like drving a a muscle car back from the 70's which is more efficient on gas, new car or the muscle car?
Hour analogy is not so great here. DICE coding is.not.outdated, its purposely coded that way for avoidance of bugs, hacks.
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Alexspi13:50:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
You dont get it, BetDice team could.be already coding EOS. They are a very capable team. They do know.what they are doing.
I'm not saying betdice is at fault here but there are so many dice games that prolly are not efficient
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greywings31313:51:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
i wold say new cars are more than 80% efficient
Plus, who wants such a cheap quick fix? EOS network is.suposed to handle this.small traffic.
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mantis toboggan13:51:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
i wold say new cars are more than 80% efficient
id take a 70s muscle over any trash cookie cutter car from today
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greywings31313:51:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
I'm not saying betdice is at fault here but there are so many dice games that prolly are not efficient
Oh I see. But they dont really have traffic, so it doesn't influence the.network thay much.
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SID13:51:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
Your analogy is not so great here. DICE coding is.not.outdated, its purposely coded that way for avoidance of bugs, hacks.
Then they should be efficient to code again to make it more efficient... Whole eos network is suffering due to few dapps consuming all the resources
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Alexspi13:52:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
Plus, who wants such a cheap quick fix? EOS network is.suposed to handle this.small traffic.
eos keeps evolving so with new upgrades this would be a thing of the past....right now every developer should help the platform run more smoothly for the benefit of every eos user
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SID13:53:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
eos keeps evolving so with new upgrades this would be a thing of the past....right now every developer should help the platform run more smoothly for the benefit of every eos user
+1
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greywings31313:53:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Then they should be efficient to code again to make it more efficient... Whole eos network is suffering due to few dapps consuming all the resources
Well, We are very thankful to BetDice, there is.no better test then this. So, because of.Betdice EOS can upgrade, and if successful, we are truly looking into 1st spot on CMC.
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SID13:54:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
Well, We are very thankful to BetDice, there is.no better test then this. So, because of.Betdice EOS can upgrade, and if successful, we are truly looking into 1st spot on CMC.
It's a matter of time... For now we don't want to lose against competition
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Alexspi13:54:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
Well, We are very thankful to BetDice, there is.no better test then this. So, because of.Betdice EOS can upgrade, and if successful, we are truly looking into 1st spot on CMC.
yaa, betdice is my favorite dapp, they are doing an awesome job
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shadow13:55:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
No.. But I just shared a way how to burn fire in the asses of those dapp devs who are using too much cpu.. Why should normal users suffer from lack of cpu..
That’s a form of censorship and undermines net neutrality.
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greywings31313:55:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
eos keeps evolving so with new upgrades this would be a thing of the past....right now every developer should help the platform run more smoothly for the benefit of every eos user
BetDiCE is a casino, they can NOT compromise security. It would be a disaster for EOS if anything security related happens.to DICE. There should.be no pressure on them to change any code.
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Alexspi13:56:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
there are so many other dapps that prolly slap some code together to make it work and prolly many are not running efficiently
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greywings31313:56:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
there are so many other dapps that prolly slap some code together to make it work and prolly many are not running efficiently
I guess A great coding team is not that easy to find.
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sabarish nair13:57:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1070627656432347&id=495343167294135
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Alexspi13:58:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
I guess A great coding team is not that easy to find.
yup, that's why i think its a good idea to get the standby bp's to at least create a website just like what android community has done with XDA developers...we need to create such a site like that
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SID13:58:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
That’s a form of censorship and undermines net neutrality.
It's not censorship if it's not centralized... Here in this case all users decide this by voting...
ๅคง
ๅคงๅฑฑ13:58:35 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
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Alexspi13:58:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
people can go learn better dapp design for the platform
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Akita power :)13:58:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
samasak9
Why January?
Every year investor sell them position to close the year...between November to maximum January....most of people will sell before January because they don't want to pay a new crypto tax(% of fiat...) adopted by so many country....
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SID13:59:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
BetDiCE is a casino, they can NOT compromise security. It would be a disaster for EOS if anything security related happens.to DICE. There should.be no pressure on them to change any code.
I am very sure that Dan has kept that security thing in mind... More efficient coding does not means compromise with security
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Alexspi14:00:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
it's in the best interest for all the gambling dapps to build efficient dapps so more people use the platform and in returm they get more users...its a win win
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Alexspi14:01:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
there should be an incentive though for the best performing dapps...maybe giving them more resources for free
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SID14:02:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
it's in the best interest for all the gambling dapps to build efficient dapps so more people use the platform and in returm they get more users...its a win win
Not only this... It will help to pump eos demand and price and also more users and transactions on eos.. Long term it will be huge benefit
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Alexspi14:03:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Not only this... It will help to pump eos demand and price and also more users and transactions on eos.. Long term it will be huge benefit
agree 100% ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
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Ponts14:05:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
please link telos group telegram
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Alexspi14:12:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
REX REX REX finally here ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
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sequen14:13:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Wen rex
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Alexspi14:15:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sequen
Wen rex
REX was released out into the wild for testing. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
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sequen14:15:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Thank goodness
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sequen14:15:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Is it public alpha or what?
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Yuanhang Luo14:15:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
what's this approval about? https://eosauthority.com/approval/view?scope=eoscanadaaac&name=capcapcap&lnc=en
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Dan14:16:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What is rex
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hspbz14:16:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
่พฃ้ธกeosๅธ
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Yuanhang Luo14:16:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What's this approval about? https://eosauthority.com/approval/view?scope=eoscanadaaac&name=capcapcap&lnc=en
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Alpha Seeker14:16:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Shock waves were felt throughout the EOS community earlier this morning as it was announced that a candidate for REX was released out into the wild for testing. Chants such as "REX IS COMING!" could be heard from all parts of the EOS community, something a lot users have been patiently waiting for.
You still only have ~30ms of execution time per block and we are hitting that limit. Rex won’t solve this.
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Alexspi14:19:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
BetDiCE is a casino, they can NOT compromise security. It would be a disaster for EOS if anything security related happens.to DICE. There should.be no pressure on them to change any code.
BetDice is growing rapdidly so prolly in the near future they should think about developing into a side chain
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SID14:19:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
You still only have ~30ms of execution time per block and we are hitting that limit. Rex won’t solve this.
But it will provide cheap cpu to rent.. Right now chintai is getting expensive... More cpu staked for Rex will pump eos price too.. And passive income for investors
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Yuanhang Luo14:20:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
what's this approval about? https://medium.com/eosio/preventing-unexpected-ram-consumption-8029a9342659
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Alpha Seeker14:21:14 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
But it will provide cheap cpu to rent.. Right now chintai is getting expensive... More cpu staked for Rex will pump eos price too.. And passive income for investors
You need to understand economics. The fact the block size is being maxed out at the current eos leasing prices means Rex won’t do a damn thing.
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Alpha Seeker14:22:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Instead of leasing 1000 eos at 12% apr to use network you’ll just lease 3000 eos at 4% APR. the costs still the same
OM
Old Man14:22:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
But it will provide cheap cpu to rent.. Right now chintai is getting expensive... More cpu staked for Rex will pump eos price too.. And passive income for investors
Wonder how long it will take for resoure demand to consume enough float that we start seeing EOS $USD decouple from BTC
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Alexspi14:22:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
You need to understand economics. The fact the block size is being maxed out at the current eos leasing prices means Rex won’t do a damn thing.
the idea of rex is to at least have it running and im sure it will develop to something better beside transaction fees could also go into the pot as more users come online
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SID14:23:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
You need to understand economics. The fact the block size is being maxed out at the current eos leasing prices means Rex won’t do a damn thing.
I am trying to say that more cpu will be available for renting... 100 million eos will be available by b1 on Rex... That 100 million eos resources are going useless for now.. But with Rex we will be able to rent it for cheap...
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Alpha Seeker14:23:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
I am trying to say that more cpu will be available for renting... 100 million eos will be available by b1 on Rex... That 100 million eos resources are going useless for now.. But with Rex we will be able to rent it for cheap...
There won’t be more cpu available. We are maxing out the cpu limit per block already.
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Alpha Seeker14:24:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Rex is just a facelift to Chintai
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greywings31314:24:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
But it will provide cheap cpu to rent.. Right now chintai is getting expensive... More cpu staked for Rex will pump eos price too.. And passive income for investors
Wait a minute, how.much cqn.I,get for my,eos?
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SID14:24:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Instead of leasing 1000 eos at 12% apr to use network you’ll just lease 3000 eos at 4% APR. the costs still the same
Not the same thing... Right now all the resources by b1 and big investors are used by none.. With Rex that can be available to those in needs
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Old Man14:25:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I have to believe that any dapp making a profit is scooping up as much EOS as they can to stake, and that any speculators hodling EOS for price exposure are going to rent for income. At some point the token supply is going to be materially impacted
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Alpha Seeker14:25:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Not the same thing... Right now all the resources by b1 and big investors are used by none.. With Rex that can be available to those in needs
Supply vs demand. The supply side of cpu is maxed out. With Rex that makes leasing easier and safer all that means is you need to lease even more eos tokens to have the same cpu allocation you had before
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SID14:26:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
There won’t be more cpu available. We are maxing out the cpu limit per block already.
Yes you are right.. I am just saying that cpu renting will get cheaper.. Right now chintai doesn't have enough volume so price goes up too quickly
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Alexspi14:26:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We need rex running so as time goes on the community can make the necessary changes
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Arthur Xu14:26:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hi
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sequen14:26:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So if I stake to Rex will my account still maintain ownership of eos?
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dandroidos14:26:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Can someone fix this POS blockchain?
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dandroidos14:26:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
please
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Alpha Seeker14:26:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Yes you are right.. I am just saying that cpu renting will get cheaper.. Right now chintai doesn't have enough volume so price goes up too quickly
It won’t be cheaper. The market already had price discovery
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dandroidos14:26:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This is fucking nonsense!
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sequen14:27:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
dandroidos
This is fucking nonsense!
What
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Alpha Seeker14:27:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
dandroidos
This is fucking nonsense!
Lease a few hundred eos from Chintai
OM
Old Man14:27:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sequen
So if I stake to Rex will my account still maintain ownership of eos?
Yes
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dandroidos14:27:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
what? lol
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SID14:27:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Old Man
I have to believe that any dapp making a profit is scooping up as much EOS as they can to stake, and that any speculators hodling EOS for price exposure are going to rent for income. At some point the token supply is going to be materially impacted
True... If will make more eos to be staked
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Alpha Seeker14:27:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Still cheaper than ethereum transactions
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sequen14:27:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Old Man
Yes
Much better then
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Betting Man14:27:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
more people will lease with rex
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dandroidos14:27:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Lease a few hundred eos from Chintai
I have hundreds of my own staked!
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Alpha Seeker14:28:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
dandroidos
I have hundreds of my own staked!
Lease more. You are a power user
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SID14:28:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sequen
So if I stake to Rex will my account still maintain ownership of eos?
Yes
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Alexspi14:28:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
the thing with chintai is that many people don't like the idea of releasing their eos to a smart contract...with rex the funds will not leave ur account
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sequen14:28:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Will I have to unstake from myself to stake to Rex?
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Chaitanya14:28:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Pump it baby
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dandroidos14:28:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Lease more. You are a power user
Or.....or, they could fix the fucking blockchain!
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sequen14:28:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ugh 3days
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Moreno EOS14:30:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We can see reverse market whit eeth and ebtc??!
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Alpha Seeker14:30:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
dandroidos
Or.....or, they could fix the fucking blockchain!
Can only optimize code and wait on hardware advancements. 70% gains in cpu per annum
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Mad R14:31:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Eos to 0๐Ÿ˜ข
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Moreno EOS14:31:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I attend eosfinex :)
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Warren Buffetti14:33:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I am now on day 4 of having no CPU. Does this thing never reset? During the past 4 days my CPU has only grown,,
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SID14:33:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
DICE responds to Dan Larimer’s Suggestions - https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2018/12/14/dice-response-to-dan-larimers-suggestions
Send it to dan
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Alpha Seeker14:33:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Warren Buffetti
I am now on day 4 of having no CPU. Does this thing never reset? During the past 4 days my CPU has only grown,,
Lease tokens from Chintai
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Warren Buffetti14:34:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Lease tokens from Chintai
I cant... both my accounts have CPU issues (over 800% now)
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Kenny | www.theeoswriter.io14:34:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Send it to dan
I did
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Kenny | www.theeoswriter.io14:34:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Should tag him in here hard to get him on a pm
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greywings31314:34:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Lease tokens from Chintai
Chintai says. 65%. Is that daily?
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SID14:35:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
Should tag him in here hard to get him on a pm
10000 people tag him at once
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Alpha Seeker14:35:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
Chintai says. 65%. Is that daily?
What does APR say?
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min pin14:35:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
Chintai says. 65%. Is that daily?
i think yearly
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Kenny | www.theeoswriter.io14:35:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
DICE responds to Dan Larimer’s Suggestions - https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2018/12/14/dice-response-to-dan-larimers-suggestions
@daniellarimer
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SID14:35:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
DICE responds to Dan Larimer’s Suggestions - https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2018/12/14/dice-response-to-dan-larimers-suggestions
@daniellarimer
HK
Hamid King14:36:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Eos 20£?
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Alexspi14:36:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
DICE responds to Dan Larimer’s Suggestions - https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2018/12/14/dice-response-to-dan-larimers-suggestions
the bottom line is that betdice is not becomeing a just a regular dapp....it should think about creating a side chain running on eos
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shadow14:37:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
there should be an incentive though for the best performing dapps...maybe giving them more resources for free
Good luck with that, analyzing every single dapp individually, which of their independent contracts can be merged (which may not be smart or maintainable for more complex dapps), deciding if you want to deposit user funds to your contract, and evaluating which transactions are resource-worthy and which not, all together measured against some unique performance metric for that specific dapp, do you care to apply for this job?
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greywings31314:37:35 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
What does APR say?
28days .80% APR 10.20
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Warren Buffetti14:37:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
LOL my CPU now grew from 800% to 1200%... 4 days of waiting (locked out) and it just keeps growing.
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |14:37:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
will there really be no market price and trading of trex? how can anyone stop that from happening?
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Kenny | www.theeoswriter.io14:38:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
the bottom line is that betdice is not becoming just a regular dapp....it should start thinking about creating a side chain running on eos
They have been considering it for a long time, lots involved in a side chain
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Alexspi14:39:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
They have been considering it for a long time, lots involved in a side chain
they have to go to side chain with all the amount of activity, its prolly even more secure for them to do so
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Alpha Seeker14:39:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
GW369
28days .80% APR 10.20
So you pay .80% to lease for 28days
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SID14:39:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
So you pay .80% to lease for 28days
Not bad
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greywings31314:39:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
So you pay .80% to lease for 28days
Oh no that's too cheap. Im leasing thou
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Kenny | www.theeoswriter.io14:41:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
they have to go to side chain with all the amount of activity, its prolly even more secure for them to do so
I don’t think it’s more secure, who will be the BPs?
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Alexspi14:42:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
I don’t think it’s more secure, who will be the BPs?
i thought sister chains were the only ones with bp's i think side chains dont need bps
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VK14:43:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Anyone here bogpilled.
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Alexspi14:45:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i think with side chains you are able to allocate more resources to your dapp...you get more control
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Alexspi14:47:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
when dapps start getting too big then the next step is to transfer into a side chain thats the logic behind that
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Kenny | www.theeoswriter.io14:49:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
i think with side chains you are able to allocate more resources to your dapp...you get more control
Yeah your probably right I get on confused between sister and side chains
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Alexspi14:50:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
kennyTEW
Yeah your probably right I get on confused between sister and side chains
yaa man, that's why Telos and Worbli are sister chains because they got BP's
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Kenny | www.theeoswriter.io14:52:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
yaa man, that's why Telos and Worbli are sister chains because they got BP's
๐Ÿ‘
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Anton EOS_v214:54:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Warren Buffetti
LOL my CPU now grew from 800% to 1200%... 4 days of waiting (locked out) and it just keeps growing.
๐Ÿ˜ด๐Ÿ˜ด
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Alexspi14:54:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
side chains will run on eos and are needed when the dapp gets way too much activity...it would be interesting to see if betdice is the first one to go on a side chain..they should making the first one to make that move ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
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Anton EOS_v214:54:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
tiget721
Eos 20£?
for 2020 before no lool
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Dat Lu14:55:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I dun undetstand side chain eos
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Dat Lu14:55:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Wat u guys mean?
HK
Hamid King14:55:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
5?
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Dat Lu14:55:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If run on side chain. Use scatter, newdex? Use all unities on eos?
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Alexspi14:57:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dat Lu
If run on side chain. Use scatter, newdex? Use all unities on eos?
yup, it should be the same..side chain will give more control to your dapp like giving it more resources
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Dat Lu14:58:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So if so much better
DL
Dat Lu14:58:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why there is no developers do side chain yet
DL
Dat Lu14:59:14 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I think there is problem with connection at this moment?
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Anton EOS_v215:00:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
how long do we have to wait for the CPU to resolve?
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Alexspi15:01:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
yup, but it should be an important task to design for that, as dapps get tons of users and lots more activity this is going to be needed as soon as possible
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HeadiEddie15:01:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The future of the future.. I want my "job" to be to stand at the entrance and give kids cell phones and a briefing on how the world works. "Do whatever you want, go wherever you want, think about whatever you want, but if you have an idea, atleast tell the dapp. Watch "NEWYORK TO CHINA IN 42 MINUTES" on YouTube https://youtu.be/EapvQ3ALYJY
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mandn15:02:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Danspasiva
What is rex
๐Ÿฆ–
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ximply15:02:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We should only vote for a hard working BP particularly the ones working on solving cpu problem.
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HeadiEddie15:02:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
jerame
Well i guess it would make driving to China faster
^
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Alexspi15:03:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
we are going to need side chains like tomorrow in 2019 ๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜œ
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Dat Lu15:04:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So you mean the model like Tron dun need side chain?
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Dat Lu15:04:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Can we just simple remove cpu ?
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ximply15:05:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
cpu problem is highlighting the flaw in eos. Eos is fast but you wont be able to send transaction. so why cpu is behaving like this?
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Alpha Seeker15:05:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dat Lu
So you mean the model like Tron dun need side chain?
EOS has more activity than tron so you don't see their CPU issue just yet
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Dat Lu15:06:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Is there a purpose to design cpu and net in first place
DL
Dat Lu15:06:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Why only eos has these?
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Kim15:07:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Warren Buffetti
LOL my CPU now grew from 800% to 1200%... 4 days of waiting (locked out) and it just keeps growing.
Yes it growed for a while. But I staked a lot and that seemed to help. CPU is down a bit now.
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Dat Lu15:07:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I think these resources are the hidden key Dan create to win this bc war in long long future?
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hadrian15:14:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
benartzi
I thought it was a pretty good launch. Actually unprecidented.
Me too! https://t.me/EOSproject/1047742
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HeadiEddie15:16:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
cpu problem is highlighting the flaw in eos. Eos is fast but you wont be able to send transaction. so why cpu is behaving like this?
If it gets that expensive, rent the cpu to dapps that are profitable at the high cost, affording you cpu on the side chains that are for less profitable dapps and those which do not gain an advantage by being in the middle of town. It would be constant gentrification as the network grows. Dapps will optimize themselves, and constantly reduce their cpu needs to stay profitable or shift further out.
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่‰ฒๆ‹‰ - Aloha EOS15:17:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
cpu problem is highlighting the flaw in eos. Eos is fast but you wont be able to send transaction. so why cpu is behaving like this?
I don't see it as a flaw, I see it as an opportunity to improve.
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Alexspi15:18:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
REX is a quick fix to cpu issues coming online soon...many have large stake eos in their accounts which are not doing anything with those resources...with rex people will lend those resources out
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Anton EOS_v215:18:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
REX is a quick fix to cpu issues coming online soon...many have large stake eos in their accounts which are not doing anything with those resources...with rex people will lend those resources out
when rex relased??
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HeadiEddie15:18:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Not a flaw, a feature. It will push ephemeralization. Eventually, the whole world could fit on mainchain and the sidechains fall away, if their only purpose was to provide space.
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Alexspi15:18:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
looks like its in testing mode
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HeadiEddie15:19:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I don't even consider eos launched.
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HeadiEddie15:20:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Much can not be done by phone, which is the majority of the world.
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ximply15:20:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Salohaeos
I don't see it as a flaw, I see it as an opportunity to improve.
Yes it is an opportunity from the start for it creates business to rent cpu out.
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John15:20:14 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
How will rex be different than chintai? Why aren't more people using chintai?
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Alexspi15:21:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
John
How will rex be different than chintai? Why aren't more people using chintai?
many people are not comfortable in sending their eos to a smart contract, with rex the funds stay in your account
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John15:22:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Oh ok, so rex is a centralized version of chintai then, less counterparty risk?
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John15:22:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Decentralized for rex I mean
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่‰ฒๆ‹‰ - Aloha EOS15:22:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Yes it is an opportunity from the start for it creates business to rent cpu out.
It's like spacex trying to launch a rocket. Just because there are problems with the first few attempts, we shouldn't call it quits. We will always want to achieve bigger and better things, it will be a constant struggle to improve everything.
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Anton EOS_v215:22:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
the cpu is corrupted by the whales right now. every eos must have a 0.1 / s fixed for ok cpu !!
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Alexspi15:24:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
there are tons of whales sitting on tons of resources while dapps need those resources
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ximply15:26:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
REX is a quick fix to cpu issues coming online soon...many have large stake eos in their accounts which are not doing anything with those resources...with rex people will lend those resources out
Rex is same with chintai?
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Dan15:26:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Credits + IBM partnership, how can EOS keep up?
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Alexspi15:27:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Rex is same with chintai?
nope rex is going to be part of eos, chintai is more like a dapp where you can rent or lease resources
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Channel_Bot15:28:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/eoseoul/eoseouls-history-node-official-announcement-c1ce284b372e
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James15:29:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.ibm.com/case-studies/credits-ibm-cloud-blockchain-performance
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Ries_NL๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ15:30:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
InvestorBear
https://www.ibm.com/case-studies/credits-ibm-cloud-blockchain-performance
๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ
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Simon Says15:31:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
leejiman
https://medium.com/eoseoul/eoseouls-history-node-official-announcement-c1ce284b372e
๐Ÿฅ‚๐Ÿ‘
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SID15:32:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Rex is same with chintai?
Rex is much bigger solution
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Simon Says15:33:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Rex is same with chintai?
The team behind Chintai is developing a REX interface.
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Alexspi15:33:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
the great thing about eos is that it's a flexible platform where it can evolve by where the community takes it to...unlinke hard forks like btc or eth where takes a long time to do anything
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Alexspi15:35:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
when rex comes online im sure there will be a change or 2 to improve it, nothing is perfect in this world
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zero15:35:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
@daniellarimer last few days, the dapp eosmax.io result in terrible CPU problem, almost 99% EOS player can not operate their account, do you have any suggestion about this event?
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HeadiEddie15:35:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Simon Says
The team behind Chintai is developing a REX interface.
Was it chitntai that side stepped the ram market, siphoning away those fees that would have gone towards reducing inflation? Would it be a similar situation with rex?
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ximply15:35:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Simon Says
The team behind Chintai is developing a REX interface.
Do they have some estimate on the date?
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HeadiEddie15:37:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I suppose "Siphoning" is a subjective perspective..
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Alexspi15:37:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
Was it chitntai that side stepped the ram market, siphoning away those fees that would have gone towards reducing inflation? Would it be a similar situation with rex?
there are lots of accounts with a lot of resources not doign anything....with rex at least those resources will be lend out
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |15:40:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
they say t-rex token won't be tradable, no market price. doesn't make sense
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Jack P15:40:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Is it possible that BTC ll never go higher than before
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John15:40:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So the problem with chintai is that it's too risky for the lenders but not so much for the borrowers in smaller amounts?
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Average Joe @eoswatchdogs15:41:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
So much fun
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:41:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/realeoscrash
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HeadiEddie15:41:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It is also a subjective claim to say they are not doing anything. There could be plans or their business decisions include driving up demand. For now, it might be good for the long term network health. It forces the issue of dapps forming a long term plan and optimizing from the get go. If the cpu situation didn't occur, dice would keep on running costly contracts, and cpu would be "wasted" there.
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Average Joe @eoswatchdogs15:42:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Jack P
Is it possible that BTC ll never go higher than before
Anything is possible sir. Check @eosprice for more advanced knowledge on prices and market conditions
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Simon Says15:42:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Do they have some estimate on the date?
No. I'd guess the general EOS community can easily access REX in January, just a guess.
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Average Joe @eoswatchdogs15:42:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
It is also a subjective claim to say they are not doing anything. There could be plans or their business decisions include driving up demand. For now, it might be good for the long term network health. It forces the issue of dapps forming a long term plan and optimizing from the get go. If the cpu situation didn't occur, dice would keep on running costly contracts, and cpu would be "wasted" there.
Well said, ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |15:43:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ppl don't like sending eos to contracts like chintai. yet that is the recommended design from b1 for dice
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ximply15:43:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Simon Says
No. I'd guess the general EOS community can easily access REX in January, just a guess.
Wow January 2019. That would be a long pain for all of us from here.
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ximply15:44:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
ppl don't like sending eos to contracts like chintai. yet that is the recommended design from b1 for dice
Yeah conflicting
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Simon Says15:45:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Wow January 2019. That would be a long pain for all of us from here.
I don't know how to respond to that other than the concept of passing time seems highly subjective. I think January is next month. I'd rather no catastrophic bugs reveal themselves during a rushed launch if I get to choose.
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VK15:45:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Simon Says
I don't know how to respond to that other than the concept of passing time seems highly subjective. I think January is next month. I'd rather no catastrophic bugs reveal themselves during a rushed launch if I get to choose.
Are you bogpilled
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HeadiEddie15:46:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eoskilledeth
Well said, ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Watch "Simpson crazy cat woman talks" on YouTube https://youtu.be/ArXIki2OR6E
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hachtu15:46:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
My EOS is currently stuck in ‘refunding’ mode well after 3 days. Any advice?
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |15:46:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
b1: let's replace chintai with decentralized version called rex, then everyone will use it
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ximply15:47:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hachtu
My EOS is currently stuck in ‘refunding’ mode well after 3 days. Any advice? And anyone know why?
Use meet.one app to claim or eostoolkit.io
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Simon Says15:47:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hachtu
My EOS is currently stuck in ‘refunding’ mode well after 3 days. Any advice? And anyone know why?
https://bloks.io/wallet/manual-refund
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hachtu15:47:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Use meet.one app to claim or eostoolkit.io
Thx will do
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hachtu15:47:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Simon Says
https://bloks.io/wallet/manual-refund
Thx
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Simon Says15:47:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Yeah, any of those options work.
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Roger V15:48:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
can I help with the cpu situation by staking my 100k eos?
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s gold15:48:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Wow January 2019. That would be a long pain for all of us from here.
Yeah I really hope it doesn't take that long....
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Simon Says15:49:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Linxy
can I help with the cpu situation by staking my 100k eos?
https://t.me/ChintaiEOS
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hachtu15:49:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Simon Says
Yeah, any of those options work.
Ok thanks. Do u know why this happens? I would think the contract would handle refunding precisely.
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s gold15:49:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Linxy
can I help with the cpu situation by staking my 100k eos?
I mean that's a lot of EOS. But for an example of scale bet dice staked close to 7 million eos and still occasionally runs out.
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Roger V15:49:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
goldie_man
I mean that's a lot of EOS. But for an example of scale bet dice staked close to 7 million eos and still occasionally runs out.
crazy
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |15:50:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
devs beware, b1 will always be able to replace ur dapp with built in
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Daniel Larimer15:51:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
devs beware, b1 will always be able to replace ur dapp with built in
devs beware... there is competition in the market
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Simon Says15:51:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
May the best dApps rise to the top.
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Patrick15:51:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
/
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Patrick15:51:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
๐Ÿ˜’
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Patrick15:52:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
/
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Marcus | TokenPocket15:52:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
Lol
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Daniel Kimotho | EOS Nairobi15:52:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
lol
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zald15:52:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
@daniellarimer What do you think about bitpie's stable coins on EOS.IO: EBTC, EETH, and EUSD? Is it useful for the ecosystem?
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Mostafa Nazar15:52:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
Dan is multithreading a solution in the future or is it just too unpredictable?
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Simon Says15:52:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Free market spam filter. Low quality dApps don't clutter the space.
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |15:53:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
don't get me wrong some functionality is better to built into the base framework
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ximply15:53:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
enter REX
January 2019?
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s gold15:53:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
don't get me wrong some functionality is better to built into the base framework
I agree
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Makten15:53:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
Perfect response. Now pls for the love of baby jesus fix basic transactions on EOS so we can stake more or send a few simple transactions without having our accounts locked up. Even CPU emergency is out of resources.
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ximply15:54:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
enter REX
Will rex double the amount of cpu we have right now or will it be the same?
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da Lexx15:55:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
Do we get a Christmas Gift from B1 ? Margin trading on DEX would be awesome
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Maple Leaf Cap15:55:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
@daniellarimer what's B1's plan w/ the 100 mm when REX comes out? And do you feel like a meaningful amount of staked EOS today aren't using any resources (and simply staked for the stake of voting a few leading bps)?
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Mostafa Nazar15:55:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Will rex double the amount of cpu we have right now or will it be the same?
according to Dan that only 20% of cpu is used right now with Rex we can reach to 100%
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pantospricebot15:57:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
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Xeshan Bvx15:57:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Easy to trade with fiat on bitpanda.
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ximply15:58:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mostafa Nazar
according to Dan that only 20% of cpu is used right now with Rex we can reach to 100%
That would be good
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Joseph Samuel15:58:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
If only there was a road map, so devs will know where to thread.... Imagine building dapp A11 and boom, B1 released dapp A11.
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Makten15:58:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
Will rex double the amount of cpu we have right now or will it be the same?
Depends if we vote in BP's that have double the hardware power. We really don't know which BP's perform well. EOS doesn't penalize bad performing BP's, like it should, and it doesn't tell us any sort of performance rating. Rex will also open more CPU usage through leasing but I don't know how that will affact the bottlenecking. I think that just means more CPU can be utilitized at a cheaper rate. Could be wrong.
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Mostafa Nazar15:59:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ximply
That would be good
yes that means 400% increase in capacity. I will be happy with even 100% increase
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |16:01:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
don't get me wrong some functionality is better to built into the base framework
....just not my dapp in particular
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Alexspi16:03:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
samstickkz
If only there was a road map, so devs will know where to thread.... Imagine building dapp A11 and boom, B1 released dapp A11.
it's hard to follow a roadmap when eos is already a live chain and it's evolving constantly...the reason there is no roapmap is because eos is decentralized platform run by the community...
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Alexspi16:03:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
block one provides innovations for eos
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |16:03:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
goldie_man
I agree
.... just not my dapp in particular. ๐Ÿ˜‚
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N16:04:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Geez, it has been 4days and still my CPU usage is at full? When will be reset back to 0 ms? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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Anton EOS_v216:05:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
When released rex CPU?? After 1 month or after 1 years???
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Anton EOS_v216:05:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
N123x4
Geez, it has been 4days and still my CPU usage is at full? When will be reset back to 0 ms? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
Fuck CPU
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N16:05:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eosgoal
Fuck CPU
Fvckkkkkk
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Sandwich16:06:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
N123x4
Geez, it has been 4days and still my CPU usage is at full? When will be reset back to 0 ms? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
It probably already is 0ms
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Sandwich16:06:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The read-only metrics only reset when there's a successful transaction.
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Sandwich16:06:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Try sending a transaction.
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Mostafa Nazar16:06:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
N123x4
Geez, it has been 4days and still my CPU usage is at full? When will be reset back to 0 ms? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
no it's not you can use it
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |16:06:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
buy more eos ppl, jeez
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Alexspi16:06:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
give eos a break man, at least this huge activity in the recent months is because there is a lot of demand for those dapps
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Mostafa Nazar16:06:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
N123x4
Geez, it has been 4days and still my CPU usage is at full? When will be reset back to 0 ms? ๐Ÿ˜ญ
it takes only 24 h for cpu to reset
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N16:07:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mostafa Nazar
it takes only 24 h for cpu to reset
Mine was already 4days stilk at fulk
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Sandwich16:07:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
N123x4
Mine was already 4days stilk at full
Read my message.
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N16:08:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
Read my message and chill
i see will try
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Sandwich16:08:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
๐Ÿ‘
ME
Mr. Ifeanyi Ebigbo16:08:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Quick question: EOS or ADA I just gotta ask. And please give a reason for your answer.
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Alexspi16:09:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i rather have a platform needing improvement than a dead idle platform with no users
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Alexspi16:09:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
so eos has a good future ahead
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Mostafa Nazar16:09:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mr. Ifeanyi Ebigbo
Quick question: EOS or ADA I just gotta ask. And please give a reason for your answer.
ADA is trying to do what Ethereum is doing except it is has much weaker developing team
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N16:09:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
Read my message and chill
It worked !!! Huhuhu it took me 4 days to get this hUHUUHUHU
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Alexspi16:10:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
this means that value is constantantly getting added to eos as time goes on
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lvkvinoth16:10:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
f,k
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Mostafa Nazar16:10:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
N123x4
It worked !!! Huhuhu it took me 4 days to get this hUHUUHUHU
every 24 h it will reset. many people don't know that
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Paul16:11:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hi All, I'm trying to use the EOS blockchain and i'm using this guide to do so https://medium.com/coinmonks/how-to-move-your-eos-off-exchanges-and-use-it-bc0f83ea9326 So far I have opened an EOS account and a Desktop Scatter account and i'm about to start using the tool kit. Is the tool kit recommended here still a good one to use or are there currently better tool kits? tx
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Phil16:11:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
are there any EOS token on Newdex worth watching?
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Anton EOS_v216:13:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
buy more eos ppl, jeez
Stop buy eos! Buy after price eos down and cpu down
JO
J Ohby16:13:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Bull run coming 2028
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |16:14:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
can ppl be a bit more transparent. don't complain about CPU if u have like 2 eos.
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Alexspi16:14:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Philchain
are there any EOS token on Newdex worth watching?
i got a few projects that i like, i went thru all the coins on NewDex...you can click on the website of each project and that tells you if is a good project to invest in
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Alexspi16:15:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
there are a lot of chinese websites, i didnt invest in those because cant understand the project lol
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Anton EOS_v216:16:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eos has too many problems fix
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Anton EOS_v216:16:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Philchain
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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Phil16:16:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
i got a few projects that i like, i went thru all the coins on NewDex...you can click on the website of each project and that tells you if is a good project to invest in
can you name a couple i should look at. I dumped most of my airdrops after Black crash... but I think Scatter and NewDex is pretty cool, way better than IDEX/Metamask etc...
JM
Jc Macintyre16:17:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Philchain
are there any EOS token on Newdex worth watching?
Lots! Do some research & find the projects you like. Most of them have a telegram group you can join & ask questions.
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง16:17:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Philchain
are there any EOS token on Newdex worth watching?
Thats what our chat is continuously trying to discover. All are welcome. Telegram EOSairdroptalk
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okayplanet | Patreos16:18:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
i have the right to a monopoly!!!
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HeadiEddie16:18:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
samstickkz
If only there was a road map, so devs will know where to thread.... Imagine building dapp A11 and boom, B1 released dapp A11.
I think rex was talked about before chantai existed.
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Alexspi16:18:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
some of the projects i like are, DICE, MEV, SEED, TRYBE, HVT, INF, HORUS, FOS, EPRA, KARMA,...you can check the website for further info
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George16:18:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
๐Ÿค”
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Phil16:19:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
Thats what our chat is continuously trying to discover. All are welcome. Telegram EOSairdroptalk
find any winners yet? They all look like ...... to be honest!
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง16:19:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Philchain
find any winners yet? They all look like ...... to be honest!
Yup
HB
Henri B16:19:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://cheddar.com/videos/facebook-blockchain-group-on-hiring-spree-for-cryptocurrency
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Phil16:19:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
some of the projects i like are, DICE, MEV, SEED, TRYBE, HVT, INF, HORUS, FOS, EPRA, KARMA,...you can check the website for further info
Do they all need a separate token?? Can they not just use EOS token if no fees?!
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง16:20:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Philchain
find any winners yet? They all look like ...... to be honest!
I'll be happy to speak in the channel ✌
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Alexspi16:21:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Philchain
Do they all need a separate token?? Can they not just use EOS token if no fees?!
I'm sure they can but they have their own token so they can reward their users or stake their coin to get more of it
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The Third ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง16:21:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The EOS ecosystem has been terrific for me in this bear market.
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Alexspi16:24:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
i suggest that many manage their airdrops, go to NewDex and click on the symbol of that coin so you can go to their website and do some research if you want to support that project...in the long run that project could be more valuable if it takes off
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Colinabi16:24:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ฤฐs there any option to stake cpu because my cpu used overload and i cant do anything
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Alexspi16:26:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
ColinAbi
ฤฐs there any option to stake cpu because my cpu used overload and i cant do anything
you can go to chintai to rent some resources
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |16:28:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
if ur acct is stuck cause CPU. could u not just create a new account, buy eos, and delegate CPU to ur first account?
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Anton EOS_v216:29:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
The EOS ecosystem has been terrific for me in this bear market.
๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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shadow16:29:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dat Lu
Can we just simple remove cpu ?
Not if you want fees instead
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Dat Lu16:29:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
shadowyogi
Not if you want fees instead
No, keep it = ))
KH
Kabir | LEARNDAC https://learndac.education16:29:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dice on EOS is a rocket ship! I created a new channel: @StakeDice. Please join as if you think the new Dice is going to pull up your spirits soon :)
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SID16:30:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
Dan, instead of saying that dice dapp devs are inefficient coders.. Why dont b1 brings a real efficient gambling dapp... It will replace other 100 inefficient ones and solve the cpu shortage too.. We don't need 100 same dapps but 1 most efficient is enough
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Anton EOS_v216:31:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
please reply sid rex before 2018 for relased??
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George16:32:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Wen ๐Ÿฆ–๐Ÿฆ–rex
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George16:33:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ok gambling is cute and all. When we getting a bad ass dapp ?
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SID16:33:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
I am strong believer in you and eos.. But with all these cpu shortage I can see your dream of mass adoption getting into darkness.. No one likes to stake 1000 eos to process few transactions... If b1 doesn't replace all these inefficient dapps with the most efficient one then we won't be able to see any mass adoption
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Financialfreedomcj16:36:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://trybe.one/telos-the-eosio-software-code-fork-mainnet-will-be-activating-and-going-live-soon-heres-what-you-need-to-know/
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ian16:37:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Alexspi
it's hard to follow a roadmap when eos is already a live chain and it's evolving constantly...the reason there is no roapmap is because eos is decentralized platform run by the community...
This is an important point i think
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George16:40:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.theeoswriter.io/home/2018/12/14/dice-response-to-dan-larimers-suggestions
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Neb - Infiniverse.net16:40:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
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SID16:42:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
If that competition is going to bring 100 more gambling dapps... Then that's the nightmare... 100 competitive more efficient dice dapps will consume far more cpu.. We all need a super efficient single casino dapp rather than 100+ inefficient ones consuming 80% of whole network cpu.. Feels like these dapps are crypto kitty on eos... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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shadow16:43:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mostafa Nazar
according to Dan that only 20% of cpu is used right now with Rex we can reach to 100%
not 25%? and and didn’t BP’s backpedaled from the 30% threshold because of problems? makes me think if those 25% aren’t 100% already.
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BD M16:45:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
If that competition is going to bring 100 more gambling dapps... Then that's the nightmare... 100 competitive more efficient dice dapps will consume far more cpu.. We all need a super efficient single casino dapp rather than 100+ inefficient ones consuming 80% of whole network cpu.. Feels like these dapps are crypto kitty on eos... ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
If there are more efficient dapps and those dapps accept cpu costs - then those dapps will be able to run whilst inefficient ones won’t. Competition will create new winners if incumbents don’t a’dap’t quickly
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Marcus | TokenPocket16:45:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
@daniellarimer what if cpu price base on personal request but not the whole mainnet
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Makten16:46:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
if ur acct is stuck cause CPU. could u not just create a new account, buy eos, and delegate CPU to ur first account?
You can't delegate to your new account if your primary account has a CPU shortage. Delegation takes CPU power.
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SID16:46:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
BD M
If there are more efficient dapps and those dapps accept cpu costs - then those dapps will be able to run whilst inefficient ones won’t. Competition will create new winners if incumbents don’t a’dap’t quickly
It doesn't work like this unfortunately.. The amount of money all these dapps are making is so huge that they can rent any amount of cpu to stay alive... In that case it's only a nightmare...
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HeadiEddie16:49:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Makten
You can't delegate to your new account if your primary account has a CPU shortage. Delegation takes CPU power.
If in a real bind, I think the lynx wallet would be able to create a new account for $1.
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HeadiEddie16:50:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Not a long term fix, but might work for today.
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SID16:57:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The amount of time b1 is taking to bring up killer dapps and wallet is creating too much over expectations and hopes in long term believers.... During the time when a new dapp appears and updates every day, b1 took more than 6 months just to deliver a wallet and few dapps.. Maybe they were working on it for more than 1 year... With that huge army of 100+ most efficient devs leaded by the legendary Dan, it will be insulting Dan's efficiency if I expect anything less from him...
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Dat Lu16:57:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
devs beware, b1 will always be able to replace ur dapp with built in
Have you heard of google photo, google music, internet explore, safari?
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SID17:02:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
@daniellarimer what's B1's plan w/ the 100 mm when REX comes out? And do you feel like a meaningful amount of staked EOS today aren't using any resources (and simply staked for the stake of voting a few leading bps)?
That 100 million eos will be rented on Rex..
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PaulyC17:02:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
That 100 million eos will be rented on Rex..
Whew really
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SID17:03:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID are you sure
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Maple Leaf Cap17:03:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It'd be great if so (with sources).
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Maple Leaf Cap17:04:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
And what's B1 going to do w/ the proceeds? staking? Selling it?
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SID17:04:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
SID are you sure
Yes.. Dan said this once... 1 guy from cpu emergency asked him about this so I am sure about this
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Maple Leaf Cap17:05:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Great. Thank you.
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Maple Leaf Cap17:05:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
That would certainly make a huge difference.
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SID17:05:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
And what's B1 going to do w/ the proceeds? staking? Selling it?
Just renting... It will create a huge supply of cpu though Rex.. Right now that 10% resources of b1 is reserved but not being used... With Rex we will be able to get access to those resources
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Tahmidur Rahman Khan17:06:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
poop coin
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Maple Leaf Cap17:06:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Correct
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THE INCREDIBLE BULK17:06:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Wen rex?
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SID17:06:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
That would certainly make a huge difference.
Yes it will.. Not only this, many more whales will rent resources through Rex so we will be able to get huge amounts of cpu at fraction of cost..
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Maple Leaf Cap17:07:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Sid you are exactly right
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Maple Leaf Cap17:07:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Especially those that are staking just to vote for a few BPs in China
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Dat Lu17:07:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I think SID abit in rush mood here... eos mainly focus on eosio.... you know when you have million apps on apple store but only up to ios 12 ... 1 ios. Everyyear. And... blockchain is something so New and hard to code, test, run.. also! If b1 so strong.... in which encourage will developers of smaller team of dapps will come to eos eco?????
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SID17:07:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
Especially those that are staking just to vote for a few BPs in China
Exactly
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Maple Leaf Cap17:07:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Now to be fair, they'd just set up their own proxies and delegate accordingly to vote for just a handful of colluding bps, but getting some interest is infinitely better than no interest
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Maple Leaf Cap17:08:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I expect massive drop in cost of rental
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Dat Lu17:08:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Not Dan, but B1 behind eosio also has their own time table... they cant be rush
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Maple Leaf Cap17:08:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But until then, the quagmire continues.
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Dat Lu17:09:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If eos has no bds, no 3rd party developers, no community, only dapps from b1.... it will fail hard
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Maple Leaf Cap17:09:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Now for another question, for any accounts that haven't performed any actions since launch and the owner appears to be inactive, would there be anyway to convert them once REX is launched?
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SID17:09:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dat Lu
Not Dan, but B1 behind eosio also has their own time table... they cant be rush
It's eos... B1 need to run with the speed of eos.. I feel they need better lawyers to speed up legal process
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Dat Lu17:10:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
2019 is our year... calm down and drink tea
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |17:10:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
it's strange. it becomes like a txn fee. suppose I have only 2 eos, can't use dapps cause CPU. so I rent CPU from rex. now I use dapps, but pay a continuous rental fee. gotta push that fee rather onto the dapp devs.
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Dat Lu17:11:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
it's strange. it becomes like a txn fee. suppose I have only 2 eos, can't use dapps cause CPU. so I rent CPU from rex. now I use dapps, but pay a continuous rental fee. gotta push that fee rather onto the dapp devs.
2 eos is ..... low. Eosio 5.0 may solve this
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SID17:11:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
Now for another question, for any accounts that haven't performed any actions since launch and the owner appears to be inactive, would there be anyway to convert them once REX is launched?
In this case if his eos are staked and not being used then it's waste of resources... But he can lend it on Rex and receive passive income while his holding will always stay in his wallet
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Maple Leaf Cap17:12:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I hear you
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Maple Leaf Cap17:12:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But there's currently no way of waking that person up, so to speak
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SID17:12:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
it's strange. it becomes like a txn fee. suppose I have only 2 eos, can't use dapps cause CPU. so I rent CPU from rex. now I use dapps, but pay a continuous rental fee. gotta push that fee rather onto the dapp devs.
Most cpu cost will be covered by dapps...
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Maple Leaf Cap17:13:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What I mean is, upon implementation of REX, what if it's opt-out instead of opt-in initially. Getting around the voting subject would be an issue though I'd imagine
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SID17:13:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dat Lu
2 eos is ..... low. Eosio 5.0 may solve this
B1 need to speed up... This is the fact
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Maple Leaf Cap17:13:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Otherwise, for some slumbering whales that haven't done a thing w/ their accounts, their resources won't be freed, even though it's economic to do so -- these guys could literally just be hodling and not even paying attention to what's going on
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SID17:14:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
What I mean is, upon implementation of REX, what if it's opt-out instead of opt-in initially. Getting around the voting subject would be an issue though I'd imagine
No.. Rex will let the real owners vote..
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Dat Lu17:14:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I guess after new year.... come on guys.... non of you going holiday?
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SID17:14:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dat Lu
I guess after new year.... come on guys.... non of you going holiday?
No holidays for Dan.. ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚
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Maple Leaf Cap17:14:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Thanks
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Maple Leaf Cap17:15:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I think eventually there needs to be a solution to solve the resource squatting issue
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Maple Leaf Cap17:15:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
...to which end, I see the intention behind Dan's 3-year account expiry rationale
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SID17:15:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
I think eventually there needs to be a solution to solve the resource squatting issue
Eosio is designed for continuous updates
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Maple Leaf Cap17:15:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
For example, a forced conversion of staked tokens to REX after 3 years of complete inactivity would be a neat solution
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SID17:16:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
For example, a forced conversion of staked tokens to REX after 3 years of complete inactivity would be a neat solution
I think it's a good idea...
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |17:17:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
how does one launch a side chain anyways
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Dat Lu17:17:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
For example, a forced conversion of staked tokens to REX after 3 years of complete inactivity would be a neat solution
6 months ... 3 years are shyt long
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Maple Leaf Cap17:18:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I'll propose it in the referendum ;)
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SID17:18:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
how does one launch a side chain anyways
Side chain needs IBC
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Daniel Larimer17:19:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
In the future, those who do not use their rights will sell it to the highest bidder
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Daniel Larimer17:19:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Today, during periods of low congestion those with staked EOS get a bonus for "free" from those who do not use their EOS CPU rights
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SID17:19:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
I'll propose it in the referendum ;)
Referendum is real decentralization
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Daniel Larimer17:19:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
In the future, those who do not use their rights will sell it to the highest bidder
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HeadiEddie17:21:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It would be a built in mechanism to utilize that cpu when not in use.
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HeadiEddie17:22:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
And then automatically pay to the account it was rented from. If I'm understanding it correctly.
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SID17:23:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I think it will solve the problem
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HeadiEddie17:24:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It would probably be a lower pay out than rex, to incentivize people to commit the resource for a longer/specified amount of time, as that would increase the stability of the market.
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Mo Z. D.S.17:24:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
Today, during periods of low congestion those with staked EOS get a bonus for "free" from those who do not use their EOS CPU rights
What does this mean? What amount? When? And to who?
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SID17:24:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Right now we are feeling cpu shortage because 99% of the cpu is being reserved but not used... In future we will get access to all that Un used resources
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HeadiEddie17:26:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
@daneos
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HeadiEddie17:27:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Scroll back to Dec 11 8:30 pm to gain context.
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Devlinx17:34:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.ibm.com/case-studies/credits-ibm-cloud-blockchain-performance
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hachtu17:35:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hachtu
Ok thanks. Do u know why this happens? I would think the contract would handle refunding precisely.
Anyone know why this happens?
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Arseny M17:35:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
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andrew bryan | tandem DAC |17:35:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Side chain needs IBC
I see. wen ibc?
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Devlinx17:35:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Oops Credits vs IBM partnership.
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SID17:37:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AndrewPBryan
I see. wen ibc?
No one knows
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Nedu17:38:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
Right now we are feeling cpu shortage because 99% of the cpu is being reserved but not used... In future we will get access to all that Un used resources
At current Eos configuration we are at 100% capacity. Anymore increases will result to instability of the chain as a result of micro forks when switching bps. This is why CPU is throttled at 30% and can't be increased. Rex won't change this, finding a way to better synch hand over of block production between bps will help stability which in turn result in increasing capacity higher than 30% will help. While we wait for full multi threading and IBC. This much I gleaned hanging around Eosblock producer group.
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Nedu17:39:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
More technical peeps weigh in anywhere am wrong please
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SID17:41:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
nedupaul
At current Eos configuration we are at 100% capacity. Anymore increases will result to instability of the chain as a result of micro forks when switching bps. This is why CPU is throttled at 30% and can't be increased. Rex won't change this, finding a way to better synch hand over of block production between bps will help stability which in turn result in increasing capacity higher than 30% will help. While we wait for full multi threading and IBC. This much I gleaned hanging around Eosblock producer group.
You missed a huge part... I am saying that reserved resources are not being used... It's like you went to watch a movie in movie theater and all seats are booked but no one came to see movie... Rex will rent those empty seats to those in need... In short number of seats remains the same but it gets distributed to those in needs
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Mostafa Nazar17:44:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
nedupaul
At current Eos configuration we are at 100% capacity. Anymore increases will result to instability of the chain as a result of micro forks when switching bps. This is why CPU is throttled at 30% and can't be increased. Rex won't change this, finding a way to better synch hand over of block production between bps will help stability which in turn result in increasing capacity higher than 30% will help. While we wait for full multi threading and IBC. This much I gleaned hanging around Eosblock producer group.
as I remember Dan said that with REX we can increase cpu capacity from 20% to 100%. any way let's wait and see
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SID17:44:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
In case of cpu.. All the cpu is distributed to all staked eos but in reality less than 1% eos is being used in terms of cpu.. Rest more than 99% is being reserved but not being used.. Rex will help to get access of that rest 99% cpu resources... B1 alone reserves 10% of wholes resources but never use any.. So they can rent it on rex
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SID17:45:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mostafa Nazar
as I remember Dan said that with REX we can increase cpu capacity from 20% to 100%. any way let's wait and see
I remember that...
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SID17:46:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We all have more than enough cpu but unfortunately this cpu is not being distributed properly.... Reserved cpu is far more than cpu being used... Rex will cover up that gap..
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S T17:48:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Real estate in Greek island has a private auction and accepts EOS as payment! ๐Ÿ™‚ Polovillasincrete.com
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S T17:49:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hoping to see more like that in the near future
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Alpha Seeker17:59:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Maple Leaf Cap
Now to be fair, they'd just set up their own proxies and delegate accordingly to vote for just a handful of colluding bps, but getting some interest is infinitely better than no interest
Do you understand there’s only 200ms of cpu execution available per block? BPs throttled this to 25% of that amount since they are getting microforks when we go above it. So effectively the network is consuming all available cpu and increasing the amount of eos staked just makes it you need to stake even more eos to keep same % of cpu allocation.
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Hi
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Rick Beentjes18:01:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
How does rex work..will they be AirDropped to the holders..or...now ideas on that yet? Or did I miss it?
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If :A gives (delegates) CPU/net to :B Can :B delegate those resources to :C?
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Nedu18:03:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Do you understand there’s only 200ms of cpu execution available per block? BPs throttled this to 25% of that amount since they are getting microforks when we go above it. So effectively the network is consuming all available cpu and increasing the amount of eos staked just makes it you need to stake even more eos to keep same % of cpu allocation.
This is exactly what Bart from B1 said some two days ago at eos block producer group. Please those in the know should stop misleading people. Rex will come and outrage will hit seismic levels when it becomes clear it solves nothing.
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Toto Nene18:03:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
t.me/BitcoinAntPoolbot?start=513997537
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Toto Nene18:03:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
t.me/BitcoinAntPoolbot?start=513997537
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Rick Beentjes18:04:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Oke why introduce it then? If it solved nothing at all
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Rick Beentjes18:04:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If it does Bart Gets Fired ;-)
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itsN1X
If :A gives (delegates) CPU/net to :B Can :B delegate those resources to :C?
Can we?
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John McCoffee - Aloha EOS18:07:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
no
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HeadiEddie18:08:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Do you understand there’s only 200ms of cpu execution available per block? BPs throttled this to 25% of that amount since they are getting microforks when we go above it. So effectively the network is consuming all available cpu and increasing the amount of eos staked just makes it you need to stake even more eos to keep same % of cpu allocation.
It is proving there is a market. Now others can work with real numbers when considering building a side/sisterchain.
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Alpha Seeker18:09:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
It is proving there is a market. Now others can work with real numbers when considering building a side/sisterchain.
Million dollar question is are current bps being compensated enough by mainnet to even consider launching another?
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Network Marketing Srl18:10:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I take this opportunity for a question. I looked for my EOS address and I saw this token:
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Network Marketing Srl18:10:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What does it mean where I have marked? What do I own $ 84K? Thank you
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HeadiEddie18:11:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Sister chains wouldn't need to run the same bp or incentive structure.
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HeadiEddie18:11:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
You could even have varying degrees of security, probably equating to lower cost.
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Mostafa Nazar18:14:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
Do you understand there’s only 200ms of cpu execution available per block? BPs throttled this to 25% of that amount since they are getting microforks when we go above it. So effectively the network is consuming all available cpu and increasing the amount of eos staked just makes it you need to stake even more eos to keep same % of cpu allocation.
does increasing block time will help?
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Rick Beentjes18:14:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
nmsrl
It is worth not so much
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John McCoffee - Aloha EOS18:14:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
nmsrl
What does it mean where I have marked? What do I own $ 84K? Thank you
there are 2 different eeth tokens.. 1 is worth very little, and the other is the price of eth.. wallet might be confusing the 2
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Alpha Seeker18:15:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Mostafa Nazar
does increasing block time will help?
You increase latency so that’s a non starter
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HeadiEddie18:15:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Dapps that need less, and markets showing it will only pay for less, can shift to those chains. If that user base then wants more security, the dapps that shits over or provides that on a more secure chain, would gain users. In this model, eos mainchain becomes the chain to mega industry, kid's dapps live in the suburbs.
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Mostafa Nazar18:16:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
is there an article explaining sidechains in details?
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Alpha Seeker18:16:35 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
Dapps that need less, and markets showing it will only pay for less, can shift to those chains. If that user base then wants more security, the dapps that shifts* over or provides that on a more secure chain, would gain users. In this model, eos mainchain becomes the chain to mega industry, kid's dapps live in the suburbs.
General purpose smart contract don’t scale. Sidechains will optimize for specific usecase and scale 1000x more
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Rick Beentjes18:16:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HoneyBooBoosMom
there are 2 different eeth tokens.. 1 is worth very little, and the other is the price of eth.. wallet might be confusing the 2
Were they also airdropped?
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Matthew18:18:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
nmsrl
I regret to inform you that 501EETH doesn't appear to be worth 84K
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Matthew18:19:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If it is...then I have 84K worth too! Hopefully your calculation is correct and mine is wrong
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Rick Beentjes18:19:35 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Then we can go for a nice steak ;-)
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Matthew18:20:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://newdex.io/trade/ethsidechain-eeth-eos
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HeadiEddie18:21:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
General purpose smart contract don’t scale. Sidechains will optimize for specific usecase and scale 1000x more
I was just thinking that.. but they can retain a foot in the door. Mvd
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Matthew18:21:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Matthew
https://newdex.io/trade/ethsidechain-eeth-eos
not to be consfused with: https://newdex.io/trade/bitpietokens-eeth-eusd
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Network Marketing Srl18:21:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
#iregrettoo
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HeadiEddie18:22:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Not to say their chain would be less decentralized. It would be more like MVeos
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Dat Lu18:22:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
onenomad
Real estate in Greek island has a private auction and accepts EOS as payment! ๐Ÿ™‚ Polovillasincrete.com
Wow super!
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Network Marketing Srl18:22:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HoneyBooBoosMom
there are 2 different eeth tokens.. 1 is worth very little, and the other is the price of eth.. wallet might be confusing the 2
I think you are right
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ะžะปัŒะณะฐ18:22:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
hi๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿป
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Rick Beentjes18:23:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Bit pie tokens..never heard of that project at all
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John McCoffee - Aloha EOS18:24:14 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
they just launched ebtc eeth and eusd tokens, all pegged to btc, eth, and usd..
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John McCoffee - Aloha EOS18:24:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
maybe a couple days ago
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Lol
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Rick Sanchez18:31:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Has anyone used UOS yet?
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Rick Sanchez18:33:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It's like Reddit but with its own chain built from eos
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Rick Sanchez18:33:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It's on alpha now
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Rick Sanchez18:33:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Can't link though
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Rick Sanchez18:33:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://u.community/
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pad18:33:37 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HoneyBooBoosMom
they just launched ebtc eeth and eusd tokens, all pegged to btc, eth, and usd..
the prophecy
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Rick Sanchez18:33:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HTTPS : // U dot community
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Sandwich18:37:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
__If you're in here `budapestlove`, I hope you used that land to get some epic shots tonight ๐Ÿ˜‰__
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Sandwich18:39:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Rick Sanchez
HTTPS : // U dot community
https://u.community
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Rob Finch - Cypherglass Block Producer18:39:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Breaking news from Everipedia https://twitter.com/finchify/status/1073285836333088768?s=21
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bitregen18:39:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Today's daily EOS ecosystem newsletter EOS Headline features news from Dan Larimer, EOSIO, and Block.one. Keep up-to-date with the latest EOS news with https://t.me/eosheadline
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HeadiEddie18:39:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
itsN1X
If :A gives (delegates) CPU/net to :B Can :B delegate those resources to :C?
I doubt it, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. Many laws exist regarding sub-leasing real estate, many many of those cooncerns apply here, or are resolved here. You can send both to another account, irreversibly, and that account could do the same.
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Average Joe @eoswatchdogs18:40:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
finchify
Breaking news from Everipedia https://twitter.com/finchify/status/1073285836333088768?s=21
Sweeeeet. Not that u care about price, but this should offer a nice pump
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass Block Producer18:40:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
eoskilledeth
Sweeeeet. Not that I care about price, but this should offer a nice pump
Yah adds a lot more value to IQ in the long term. Glad I kept mine!
RS
Rick Sanchez18:41:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
https://u.community
Yes that!
A@
Average Joe @eoswatchdogs18:43:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
finchify
Yah adds a lot more value to IQ in the long term. Glad I kept mine!
I only had a little bit because I am a very poor man, but I used some eos to buy some more early on. I fully support this digital library of Alexandria
JO
J Ohby18:43:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Don’t worry. We’re all poor now.
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HeadiEddie18:43:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
finchify
Yah adds a lot more value to IQ in the long term. Glad I kept mine!
I wasn't expecting prediction markets from iq. Very interesting. I had sent a dm a couple days back. Half joking.
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HeadiEddie18:49:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
zkmlegacy
General purpose smart contract don’t scale. Sidechains will optimize for specific usecase and scale 1000x more
So I guess it would be that industries store front.. As much as I despise some zoning laws which are overreaching, maybe the same concept could be used on eos.
MD
Mr Drews18:50:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oL0hOxQbH4&feature=share
MD
Mr Drews18:50:45 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oL0hOxQbH4&feature=share
MD
Mr Drews18:50:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/monereos/15556
MD
Mr Drews18:51:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hello
MD
Mr Drews18:51:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oL0hOxQbH4&feature=share
MD
Mr Drews18:51:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I like the idea of monetizing silver back into the world.
MD
Mr Drews18:52:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/-oL0hOxQbH4
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Stellabelle | GenerEOS | Pixeos18:52:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@stellabelle/pixeos-new-tokenized-art-and-game-platform-on-eos-2d9d47bcfb81
MD
Mr Drews18:52:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/-oL0hOxQbH4
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Bugaga18:53:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
devs beware... there is competition in the market
Dan, haven't b1 consider to create an algorithmic stable coin like one that was decribed in Basis whitepaper?
MD
Mr Drews18:53:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oL0hOxQbH4&feature=share
MD
Mr Drews18:54:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://lode.one/
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Bugaga18:54:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I heard that they denied on implementation of such stablecoin because of some regulator's restrictions
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Yonas18:57:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Bitfinex Cochain Bixin Huobi Eosiosg Eos lamao and Liquid eos have not approved the the rederundum contract proposal yet. I don't know what they are waiting for... Go bug them in their telegram!!
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John EOS_v219:23:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
stellabelle
https://medium.com/@stellabelle/pixeos-new-tokenized-art-and-game-platform-on-eos-2d9d47bcfb81
This sounds very good, non fugible tokens reprisenting art ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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Roshan - EOS Authority19:24:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Yoni4848
Bitfinex Cochain Bixin Huobi Eosiosg Eos lamao and Liquid eos have not approved the rederundum contract proposal yet. I don't know what they are waiting for... Go bug them in their telegram!!
Just 3 more needed to approve https://eosauthority.com/approval/view?scope=eoscanadaops&name=deployforum&lnc=en
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John EOS_v219:26:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Nice splash ๐Ÿ˜‚
J
John EOS_v219:28:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
finchify
Breaking news from Everipedia https://twitter.com/finchify/status/1073285836333088768?s=21
Those guys are still figuring out lego
JB
Josh Brown19:29:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This cpu is brutal
J
John EOS_v219:33:58 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
SID
That 100 million eos will be rented on Rex..
Would than mean B1 would have to vote "in some form" to use REX ?
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass Block Producer19:36:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
jtohn
Those guys are still figuring out lego
What?
P
pad19:43:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sandw1ch
https://u.community
is there a tg for this? this is nice
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy19:49:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
gzuz_342
Do we get a Christmas Gift from B1 ? Margin trading on DEX would be awesome
How about Steem 2.0 or the B1 wallet?
NS
NEJASHI SEID19:54:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/BTC_Faucet_freebot?start=568534710 Faucet worked
MN
Mostafa Nazar20:00:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/ChintaiEOS/status/1073303921819414528
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Schmiddel20:14:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I heard it is possible to use ledger nano and chintai? Which wallet does support it?
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Anton EOS_v220:16:17 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Fuck block pruducer they are corrupt ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก cpu problem for block pruducer corrupt... no developer!!!
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Robrigo - EOS Detroit20:16:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Weeeee.
K@
Katie @eosasia ๐Ÿงœ๐Ÿฝ‍♀️ eosx.io20:16:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
robrigo
๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽˆ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ
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Wozza20:17:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What's causing the CPU problem?
DL
da Lexx20:19:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
How about Steem 2.0 or the B1 wallet?
I take this too
AM
Adrianna Mendez | Cypherglass20:25:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
robrigo
Congrats! Great job
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George20:26:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Wozza
What's causing the CPU problem?
Not sure but this should have been anticipated and accounted for before mainet
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Robrigo - EOS Detroit20:26:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AdriannaMendez
Congrats! Great job
Thanks Adri ❤️
MY
Michael Yeates20:27:22 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
robrigo
congrats guys :)
MY
Michael Yeates20:27:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
whats the best explorer to use?
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:27:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I have a 500 tokens in my wallet called EETH and apparently it’s worth 56k it’s got to be some sort of bug. Tried to move them to exchange but they won’t move.. what’s the deal with the price of them rising. How do I sell them?
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Robrigo - EOS Detroit20:27:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Thanks Michael! Check out https://telostracker.io/producers
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Robrigo - EOS Detroit20:28:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
I have 500 tokens in my wallet called EETH and apparently it’s worth 56k it’s got to be some sort of bug. Tried to move them to exchange but they won’t move.. what’s the deal with the price of them rising. How do I sell them?
There are 2 EETHs, the one that is pegged to ETH and the one that isn't. You probably have the second one.
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:28:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I have both
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pad20:29:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
padderson
is there a tg for this? this is nice
probably needs rate limits though. i think i just followed and upvoted everyone and everything
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:29:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
robrigo
There are 2 EETHs, the one that is pegged to ETH and the one that isn't. You probably have the second one.
Is it not a spam token? Why can’t I move them?
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Robrigo - EOS Detroit20:29:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
Is it not a spam token? Why can’t I move them?
/shrug
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Robrigo - EOS Detroit20:29:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Just telling you what I know
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:29:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
robrigo
/shrug
/shrug
MY
Michael Yeates20:31:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
robrigo
Thanks Michael! Check out https://telostracker.io/producers
https://telostracker.io/account/robrigo.tf
MY
Michael Yeates20:31:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
there seems to be a bug for the .tf accounts :)
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:31:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Somethings up coz it says it’s worth 51 thousand dollars
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:32:20 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Shame I thought I got lucky
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:33:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Price of it keeps rising. Everyone else must have the same issue
K
KayPirate20:37:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
/shrug
G
George20:43:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Is the CPU and RAM issues a surprise to block one or they saw this coming ?
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:44:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
Somethings up coz it says it’s worth 51 thousand dollars
Something odd is happening
DT
Del Boy Trotter20:45:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
It’s a glitch
SO
Sole One20:45:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
George
Is the CPU and RAM issues a surprise to block one or they saw this coming ?
you have to be more specific which issues you are referring to. cpu bandwidth and ram are very complex topics and of course no one expected it be perfect right from the start, this will be iterated over many times to get it as effective as possible.
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HeadiEddie20:54:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
I have 500 tokens in my wallet called EETH and apparently it’s worth 56k it’s got to be some sort of bug. Tried to move them to exchange but they won’t move.. what’s the deal with the price of them rising. How do I sell them?
So your plan was to take them? Lol
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Network Marketing Srl21:00:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
So your plan was to take them? Lol
Is my plan too #lol
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:00:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
So your plan was to take them? Lol
sell if possible ๐Ÿ˜…
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:01:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
unable to move them
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George21:01:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Is it just on my end or everipedia search function takes a good 10 seconds to populate
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:01:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
its a spam token i think but i dont know why the price keeps rising
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HeadiEddie21:05:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I wonder what ecaf would do in such a situation.
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:05:44 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
I wonder what ecaf would do in such a situation.
who's ecaf?
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:06:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
you must have them too
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:07:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
im seeing it in my trybe account and eostoolkit
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HeadiEddie21:07:34 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The current arbitration body. Not sure how to better explain. So much is currently in the air regarding that part of eos.
H
HeadiEddie21:08:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I do, but I have not explored it indepth.
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:09:07 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
sorry i get it now- they couldnt really do anything is my understanding. close my account maybe,
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:09:39 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
id have it turned into BTC so fast
H
HeadiEddie21:10:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Depends on if you left a balance in your account, I suppose.
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ian21:10:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ecaf is eoscafe no?
H
HeadiEddie21:10:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
No
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:11:51 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I know all they could do is freeze the account id be 50K up
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:12:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
could you blame someone who lost 90% in EOS
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HeadiEddie21:13:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
Ecaf is eoscafe no?
@EOSArbNominations that's the only channel I know of that is in the realm of the ecaf topic. Maybe there are good links there.
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HeadiEddie21:14:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
And of course, the eos gov channel
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:15:35 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
they should be going after the scammers that built the token
H
HeadiEddie21:16:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I don't think it is a scam. I think it is some kind of inter blockchain communication. I could be way off.
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shadow21:16:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
George
Not sure but this should have been anticipated and accounted for before mainet
How?
I
ian21:16:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Sorry i thought it was said above someone having ecaf tokens lol. Yeah i know ECAF.is something else. Oops
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:17:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Trybe is getting the price wrong somehow
BH
Beebop Haluula21:17:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
they should be going after the scammers that built the token
There are now two EETH's. The first is old and useless and the newer one is a pegged token to ETH. The block explorer you are using is only recognising the tokens by their ticker, the "EETH", which is a flaw. They should recognise them by the contract name. The useless EETH tokens contract is "ethsidechain". The contract for the EETH that are worth money is "bitpietokens". I might be wrong, if anyone can further elaborate.
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:19:40 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hexagonist
There are now two EETH's. The first is old and useless and the newer one is a pegged token to ETH. The block explorer you are using is only recognising the tokens by their ticker, the "EETH", which is a flaw. They should recognise them by the contract name. The useless EETH tokens contract is "ethsidechain". The contract for the EETH that are worth money is "bitpietokens". I might be wrong, if anyone can further elaborate.
cheers
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HeadiEddie21:21:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Having the ability for two to have the same name is a bit of a flaw in my book. Somebody made their own tokens and called them "eos". Bloks.io had prevented the fake ones from appearing, but that is the last I heard about it.
KG
Ken Griffith21:23:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
krispykreme
https://cryptobriefing.com/charles-hoskinson-sec-eos/
Hoskinson was pretty biased in writing that. I got the impression it was speculation and wishful thinking on his part.
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HeadiEddie21:24:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
""Egregious to think ahead""
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:24:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
trying to move them i get the following: Transaction failed.Internal Service Error Error:assertion failure with message: symbol precision mismatch
SO
Sole One21:29:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
trying to move them i get the following: Transaction failed.Internal Service Error Error:assertion failure with message: symbol precision mismatch
which token? try to use the right amount of decimals in your amount, might have to append e.g. `3.0000` instead of just saying `3`
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HeadiEddie21:30:49 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
I know all they could do is freeze the account id be 50K up
Within the walled garden that I would like to see, moving those eeth out of the ecosystem would require a three day lockup period, and in that time ecaf could revert the tokens, if the bug/hack/theft was detected.
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XJ21:32:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://share.robinhood.com/cs-BsqHDtcWrJsqs5eUwiqQDR
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HeadiEddie21:32:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Revert/send back*
H
HeadiEddie21:33:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Bypassing three day as long as there is collateral in your account.
H
HeadiEddie21:34:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
..maybe
B
Ben21:35:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Anyone else having cpu issues
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:35:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
Within the walled garden that I would like to see, moving those eeth out of the ecosystem would require a three day lockup period, and in that time ecaf could revert the tokens, if the bug/hack/theft was detected.
i agree but its not an attempted hack.
DT
Del Boy Trotter21:35:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
Anyone else having cpu issues
everyone else is
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Ben21:36:30 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I can't believe people are still fighting over ECAF while the entire eos house is on fire
G
George21:37:05 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Agreed
B
Ben21:37:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What do we do
B
Ben21:38:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Is rex our only way out?
P
Pi21:38:50 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
What do we do
Build a spaceship
H
HeadiEddie21:39:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
+1
B
Ben21:40:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I don't have the cpu to
H
HeadiEddie21:41:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
TrottersIndependantTraders
i agree but its not an attempted hack.
I know, I was just "thinking" through different im/possibilities.
M
MaxDapp21:42:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpnfthqMgs8&t=1s
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Josep - blocks.barcelona21:45:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
michaelyeates
congrats guys :)
thank you! :D
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Ben21:46:41 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This is such a cop out. The chain shouldnt crumble because a few dapps are poorly written
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Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io21:47:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
This is such a cop out. The chain shouldnt crumble because a few dapps are poorly written
Not about being poorly written
B
Ben21:47:53 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
true
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Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io21:47:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The dApp has $15 million worth of EOS staked to sustain it
S
Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io21:48:04 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Thats just 1 dApp
S
Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io21:48:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Theyre paying for their usage
B
Ben21:48:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Betdice have argued that it's architectural decisions
B
Ben21:48:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Agreed.
B
Ben21:49:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We're still on a chain where one dapp can kill it. This isn't the eos I was sold
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George21:55:10 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Agree
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Nedu21:55:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
We're still on a chain where one dapp can kill it. This isn't the eos I was sold
Definitely not
D
DrWombie21:55:18 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hi @admin maybe pin a general CPU update? It would be great to limit those questions in this thread ๐Ÿ™‚
KA
kelvin Andler21:55:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Hello there I can help you get your bitcoin and other cryptos set up today? I can also help you get a bot setup which can earn you 1.4% daily on any investments Dm me for more info
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Nedu21:56:36 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This thing has been coming for two months and yet you only hear whispers and snarky one liners from Dan.
N
Nedu21:56:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
How about a comprehensive writeup on how this CPU issue will be handled.
B
Ben21:58:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
nedupaul
How about a comprehensive writeup on how this CPU issue will be handled.
Agreed. If there was an outline to how we solve this beyond "rex soonish", I'd wait
B
Ben21:59:12 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
DrWombie
Hi @admin maybe pin a general CPU update? It would be great to limit those questions in this thread ๐Ÿ™‚
๐Ÿ‘†
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Ben21:59:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Let's have an answer pinned
G
George22:00:11 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Block one like area 51
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Ben22:01:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Lol. Block one like individual 1
DT
Del Boy Trotter22:02:08 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
wheres dan when you need him?
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George22:05:19 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We all kinda knew eos was supposed to survive on it's own after main net to be decentralized and be self sufficient and self fixing, but it's clear now that eos is a flat pancake with out Dan / block1
JC
Jc Crown22:09:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
George
We all kinda knew eos was supposed to survive on it's own after main net to be decentralized and be self sufficient and self fixing, but it's clear now that eos is a flat pancake with out Dan / block1
What?
JC
Jc Crown22:09:31 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The network is working very well and being used more than any other
JC
Jc Crown22:09:42 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
How is that a flat pancake
B
Ben22:09:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
"Working very well"
JC
Jc Crown22:10:01 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Sometimes when I hear people talk I think their idea of a coin or project only has as much to do with what they see on an exchange and never the product itself
B
Ben22:10:02 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
What network u on
B
Ben22:10:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Let me on it
JC
Jc Crown22:10:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
What network u on
The one that I'm using every day and enjoying
B
Ben22:10:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Clearly I need your cpu
JC
Jc Crown22:10:38 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I had to rent some it was still much cheaper than paying an ethereum fee
JC
Jc Crown22:11:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
https://www.eos.chintai.io/exchange/EOS7D
B
Ben22:11:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Really? How much did you rent?
B
Ben22:11:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
And how many transactions pre day are you enjoying?
JC
Jc Crown22:11:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
.5 EOS per 100 EOS CPU for 7 days on chintai
JC
Jc Crown22:12:06 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Thats $1 for 1 week of transactions
JC
Jc Crown22:12:29 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If you use it much more than that pay another dollar, still a good deal compared to other networks
B
Ben22:12:47 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ah chintai
B
Ben22:13:24 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Of course. Rent resources from a third party to use a network
B
Ben22:13:32 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
This is why we have mass adoption
JC
Jc Crown22:13:33 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Or provide your own resources that still an option of course
JC
Jc Crown22:13:43 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But if you are not financially able to do that good thing there are third parties there to help you
JC
Jc Crown22:14:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
This is why we have mass adoption
It has more options than any other network I'd say that's a damn good thing
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Ben22:14:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Financially able at the moment is 400 odd usd to play a game for 10 minutes
JC
Jc Crown22:14:59 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
Financially able at the moment is 400 odd usd to play a game for 10 minutes
So pay $4,000 for 100 minutes or just pay $2 to have the same amount of resources for a whole week from a third party
JC
Jc Crown22:15:09 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
With an application on the same platform which is doing a great job taking care of itself
JC
Jc Crown22:15:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I'm just being realistic you seem like you I'm more interested in complaining about shortcomings which is fine
A
Andy22:15:54 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
bmj.k5094.full.pdf
BB
Bill Brewer22:16:15 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
JcCrown
It has more adoption than any other network I'd say that's a damn good thing
10 x zero is still Zero. You are pissing in Dan Larimer's wind. ..... he's laughing to his $4bn bank. Muppets!
TX
Thunder X-Dew22:16:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
gram.sh
JC
Jc Crown22:16:26 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
If you honestly think that this is the state of the network 6 months from now then you are ignoring all the progress that has been done in the last hundred days
JC
Jc Crown22:16:52 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
avent1966
10 x zero is still Zero. You are pissing in Dan Larimer's wind. ..... he's laughing to his $4bn bank. Muppets!
At least being intelligent troll this network has more use than any other blockchain right now
BB
Bill Brewer22:16:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
JcCrown
If you honestly think that this is the state of the network 6 months from now then you are ignoring all the progress that has been done in the last hundred days
Muppets!
TX
Thunder X-Dew22:17:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
haha
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Ben22:17:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Uh the network was useable straight after launch
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Ben22:17:16 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
The problem is we're seeing adoption
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Bill Brewer22:17:28 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
JcCrown
At least be an intelligent troll this network has more use than any other blockchain right now
So what.... Zero = Zero.
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Bill Brewer22:17:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
There is no adoption overall.
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Jc Crown22:17:56 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
The problem is we're seeing adoption
There are several CPU fixes happening in the coming months as well as the ability for owners to supply resources themselves on behalf of their users
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tbone22:17:57 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
is it still not possible on Telegran to ignore trolls? wtf
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The Crypto Type does not like the FUD22:18:21 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Are you planning to fixing it? Because it’s a community block chain. So if you have any ideas put it on the table.
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Jc Crown22:18:23 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
avent1966
There is no adoption overall.
I don't know what your definition of adoption is the thousands of people playing games and using tools built on the network feels like adoption to me
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Ben22:18:27 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Trolls? Users
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Ben22:19:00 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
We literally cannot use the network
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Jc Crown22:19:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Ben
Trolls? Users
I doubt this bill Brewer is a user
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tbone22:19:13 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
one troll is complaining about too much adoption. the other is complaining about not enough adoption. how about you guys have a fight to the death?
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Jc Crown22:19:25 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
tbone123
one troll is complaining about too much adoption. the other is complaining about not enough adoption. how about you guys have a fight to the death?
It's probably a good sign
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Jc Crown22:19:46 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
I understand being frustrated by the CPU situation it's not perfect of course
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Ben22:19:48 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
Even the CPUEmergency guys are complaining about how much it costs to help somebody
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Jc Crown22:19:55 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
But there are realistic and affordable remedies that you can take
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Jc Crown22:20:03 - 13 Dec 2018 [UTC]
While it is being worked on by some very smart people
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