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nutela19:34:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Hulda Clark died of cancer after claiming to have the cure for cancer....
That's not really what happened though..
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nutela19:35:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
this issue gets people more emotional than abortion
Emotions << thinking..
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Katie Roman19:35:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
That's not really what happened though.. I was also very skeptical about her...
What really happened?
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Crypto_Crow19:35:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
damn I'm on AB now.. I didn't want to take them.. and now I'm rekkt
Only if you're planning on taking vaccinations (or fruits or veg contaminated with glyphosate)
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nutela19:35:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
What really happened?
It was used to discredit her.. but I'm not sure.. what was her age?
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Tequila19:36:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
For example: if you asked experts about the effectiveness of the flu shot
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Tequila19:36:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
You’d find they agree that this is not particularly effective
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos19:37:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I see that if we had a new nation everything would be to change. There's almost nothing from the old system that could be saved.
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okayplanet | Patreos19:37:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You think doctors have done anything more than regurgitate what they were taught as fact by government regulated schools
This feels like a belief that education in STEM is just sitting in class and listening to whatever it is people feed you. In fact, my experience is that things are far more experimentally driven--not only requiring review of past experiments and scientific literature, but even carrying out tabletop experiments yourself. I've personally shot electric charges into magnetic neon gas chambers to test out Feraday's law, etc. It isn't enough to just accept what people put in front of you--in fact, you are often discouraged of this. I agree that there are big problems, but your blanket characterization of how individuals actually become knowledgeable in these subjects isn't consistent with my experience in STEM academia, or consistent with what I have seen of my friends who studied medicine.
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Tequila19:37:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I don’t think they’d spew government bs at you and try to tell you they they do. If you asked the experts, not your gp
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nutela19:37:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The whole problem with vaccines is that it's like a house of cards: Herd immunity for example builds on the fact of 100% effectiveness but that's almost never the case. You have to get booster shots..
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Frank Furter19:37:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
For example: if you asked experts about the effectiveness of the flu shot
Nothing is 100% perfect. Risk/benefit ratio comes into play.
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M McCloud19:37:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You think doctors have done anything more than regurgitate what they were taught as fact by government regulated schools
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
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Crypto_Crow19:38:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
damn I'm on AB now.. I didn't want to take them.. and now I'm rekkt
Take probiotics afterwards to rebuild your microbiome
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HeadiEddie19:38:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
I see that if we had a new nation everything would be to change. There's almost nothing from the old system that could be saved.
:)
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nutela19:38:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
Which horrible diseases?
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Jenny Walsh19:38:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
I don't understand how this will help us predict moonπ
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Frank Furter19:38:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
Exactly. You are talking to a brick wall in this forum.
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Katie Roman19:39:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
It was used to discredit her.. but I'm not sure.. what was her age? Didn't she like get in contact with infectious diseases more often because of her study?
What I read is she died of blood cancer at old age
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DM19:39:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
ππΏ
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DM19:39:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Exactly. You are talking to a brick wall in this forum.
Agreed.
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nutela19:39:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If vaccines are so great, why are they mandatory?
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Crypto_Crow19:40:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
The problem is most vaccines aren't given one at a time
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CHONG, T.19:40:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
ok I trust you, sir
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nutela19:40:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Why have 70 shots for a few diseases? Like measles, really?
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CHONG, T.19:40:35 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
guys, vaccines are good yall heard the man!
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Frank Furter19:40:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Vaccine have done more good than harm. Period, end of story. Can you argue against that?
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nutela19:41:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Vaccine have done more good than harm. Period, end of story. Can you argue against that?
Give me the evidence.
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Hatworthy19:41:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You think doctors have done anything more than regurgitate what they were taught as fact by government regulated schools
Somewhere, there's a doctor with zero knowledge of software engineering casting aspersions on delegated proof of stake.
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wilfra | marketcap.one19:41:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Jennywalsh
I don't understand how this will help us predict moonπ
no price discussion. vax is ok but absolutely no moon talk.
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HeadiEddie19:41:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
ππΏ
If money was not in the equation, there would be far more testing and individualized testing. You dont have to be 100 anti vax to point out some flaws which if corrected vastly better accomplish the goals sough.
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Tequila19:41:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Exactly. You are talking to a brick wall in this forum.
I think people are generally open to debate and hearing new information
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Crypto_Crow19:41:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
And they only prepare part of the immune response. Generally, they DON'T give you lifelong immunity. be careful what you're claiming here
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Tequila19:41:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
My mind can always be changed on any subject
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M19:41:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Hulda Clark died of cancer after claiming to have the cure for cancer....
That's a lie. She died from complications from a spinal injury she incurred from a fall. Let me know when you find an authenticated death certificate which can verify she has cancer, which is undoubtedly a smear attack to discredit her findings.
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Frank Furter19:41:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Give me the evidence.
Smallpox. Google it.
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okayplanet | Patreos19:41:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Timewizard
I studied biotechnology in college and worked in laboratories. Vaccines are OVERWHELMING beneficial if given correctly. One at a time to prevent too strong inflammatory response. If most people didn't vaccinate horrible disease would be wide spread. Vaccines prepare your own immune system for exposure to disease.
I don't understand why you were in a lab to begin with? Don't you just regurgitate things told to you?
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Tequila19:42:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But I’ve spent a great deal of my career working in the health care space, particularly in the area of infectious disease
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nutela19:42:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Smallpox. Google it.
Fail. That's just one disease.
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Fuzzy19:42:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
We need a model for that though..
Some of the best modeling for human behavior ive found is from a guy named dan ariely.
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Fuzzy19:42:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hes another frigging gianr
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Fuzzy19:42:35 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_ariely_beware_conflicts_of_interest.html
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wilfra | marketcap.one19:42:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Fail. That's just one disease. You claimed all.
you need to show vaccines have done more harm than smallpox would have to prove him wrong. i don't think you can. so he wins that.
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SID19:42:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You think doctors have done anything more than regurgitate what they were taught as fact by government regulated schools
Vaccines and antibiotics saved more life than any other medicines...
Some of the contraindications for vaccines can be immuno compromised person...
As a medico I can assure that vaccination is good thing...
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Jenny Walsh19:42:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
no price discussion. vax is ok but absolutely no moon talk.
Are you an admin?
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M19:43:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Vaccine have done more good than harm. Period, end of story. Can you argue against that?
The leading driver of health care costs in the US is chronic illness of which all forms are increasing along with the use of vaccines.
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Crypto_Crow19:43:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Smallpox. Google it.
Smallpox was almost eradicated naturally by the time they started vaccinations. Google it. π
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Frank Furter19:43:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Fail. That's just one disease. You claimed all.
Oh for fuck’s sake. Give it a rest, mate.
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nutela19:43:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
you need to show vaccines have done more harm than smallpox would have to prove him wrong. i don't think you can. so he wins that.
When did smallpox happen? How many died? What was the efectiveness of the smallpox vaccine? I remember it has a 50% death rate.
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wilfra | marketcap.one19:43:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Jennywalsh
Are you an admin?
no i'm joking. if you say 'when moon' admins will kick you out of here. but it's vax-athon for hours and they don't mind lol
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M19:43:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
Smallpox was almost eradicated naturally by the time they started vaccinations. Google it. π
And they stopped vaccinating for small pox because it caused small pox. Quantines were the only thing that worked
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Frank Furter19:43:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
The leading driver of health care costs in the US is chronic illness of which all forms are increasing along with the use of vaccines.
How does that dispell what I said?
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Alexspi19:43:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
a lot of chatter about vaccines...hmm is this a clue to what's coming in june?
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Tequila19:44:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If your source of information on this is google and random people on the internet
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Tequila19:44:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
You are going to have a bad time
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shayeos π☝️19:44:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
no i'm joking. if you say 'when moon' admins will kick you out of here. but it's vax-athon for hours and they don't mind lol
πππ☝️ππππ
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nutela19:44:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Oh for fuck’s sake. Give it a rest, mate.
Well we don't __have__ to talk about it π
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Crypto_Crow19:44:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
And they stopped vaccinating for small pox because it caused small pox. Quantines were the only thing that worked
ππ
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Deji19:44:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
The leading driver of health care costs in the US is chronic illness of which all forms are increasing along with the use of vaccines.
That probably had more to do with diet and exercise habits.
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DM19:44:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
If money was not in the equation, there would be far more testing and individualized testing. You dont have to be 100% anti vax to point out some flaws which if corrected vastly better accomplish the goals sought.
Vaccines have saved millions of lives around the world. No medical treatment is without side effects but in balance all available evidence which are freely available point to the fact that is has saved lives and continues to do so.
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nutela19:44:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Yeah let's fuck this vaccine shit and focus on the underlying problems; what is true, how do you measure it?
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Alexspi19:44:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
are we creating a vaccine side chain?
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Tequila19:45:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lmao
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SID19:45:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Vaccines have saved millions of lives around the world. No medical treatment is without side effects but on balance all available evidence which is freely available point to the fact that is has saved lives and continues to do so.
True....
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nutela19:45:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Let's focus on measuring truth please.
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Frank Furter19:45:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
World peace, let’s tackle that
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SID19:46:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
are we creating a vaccine side chain?
Maybe... I will be happy if we do that
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Alexspi19:46:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
press 1 if you ever gotten vaccinated?
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nutela19:46:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
World peace, let’s tackle that
π
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Crypto_Crow19:46:35 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Press 3 if you wished you weren't
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SID19:46:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
1
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Tequila19:47:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Can we build a blockchain based medical app where people can cryptographically sign in support of certain articles
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M19:47:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
How does that dispell what I said?
The illnesses you believe were disappearing from vaccines had more to do with improvements in hygiene. SV40 was known to infect nearly 100M Americans via the polio vaccine and it was clearly shown to cause cancer. That doesnt even take into account the discoveries from Judy Mikovits on XMRV and other retroviruses found in vaccines today driving the ever increasing rates of chronic illness.
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Deji19:47:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Have you guys seen that music video by "little Dickey" called "We love the Earth"? It has a round earth in it, sorry to Flat Earthers.
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Alexspi19:47:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
press 4 if you had a terrible disease for not being vaccinated
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nutela19:47:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So when Steem as invented we all thought Wow until you see it's easier to press like instead of actually getting what has been said..
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Alexspi19:47:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
1
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Daniel Larimer19:48:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Vaccines and antibiotics saved more life than any other medicines...
Some of the contraindications for vaccines can be immuno compromised person...
As a medico I can assure that vaccination is good thing...
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong so long as all have freedom
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nutela19:48:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
Can we build a blockchain based medical app where people can cryptographically sign in support of certain articles
I'd like that.. Let's put the data from wearables devices on the chain.
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Tequila19:48:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong so long as all have freedom
Yes
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Katie Roman19:48:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
That's a lie. She died from complications from a spinal injury she incurred from a fall. Let me know when you find an authenticated death certificate which can verify she has cancer, which is undoubtedly a smear attack to discredit her findings.
Okay well I can say anything is a lie without proof, so this is going to go no where. If you ever get cancer you can try her method.
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Crypto_Crow19:49:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Press 5 if you realized there actually IS NO long term scientific research on the side effects of vaccinations
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wilfra | marketcap.one19:49:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong so long as all have freedom
freedom to give my kids diseases. i don't know. need science.
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Frank Furter19:49:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong so long as all have freedom
Just keep your unvaccinated kid away from mine
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M19:49:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
How does that dispell what I said?
Maurice Helleman is to this day the most prolific vaccine creator from Merck. Listen to him explain the problem of SV40 contamination of polio vaccines. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-uGWut6IRfA
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nutela19:49:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What if disease = challenge?
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nutela19:49:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Just keep your unvaccinated kid away from mine
But they are vaccinated so what's the worry?
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Daniel Larimer19:50:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
But they are vaccinated so what's the worry?
Exactly
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Deji19:50:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pvuN_WvF1to
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nutela19:50:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What if we build a good immune system instead? Like a bicycle for the mind.
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Crypto_Crow19:50:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Just keep your unvaccinated kid away from mine
The risk is larger for the unvaccinated child so don't worry
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DM19:50:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong so long as all have freedom
If you want to argue for freedom to not be vaccinated, that is okay but when your unvaccinated child gets measles and spreads it to immunocompromised innocent children, you should be held responsible.
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SID19:50:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong so long as all have freedom
Well it's about the fact the vaccination can actually prevent several diseases.... I don't know about the US laws regarding vaccination schedules but in developming countries like India, it's not easy to survive without vaccination
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nutela19:51:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I'd really like to have all study data on blockchain.
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Crypto_Crow19:51:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Just keep your unvaccinated kid away from mine
Let me rephrase, Unless it's a very young baby
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Frank Furter19:51:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Exactly
It’s freeloading off those that vaccinate. Herd immunity.
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Christian Schramm19:51:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Dan, stick to C++ and let the experts stick to medicine.
No.
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nutela19:51:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
If you want to argue for freedom to not be vaccinated, that is okay but when your unvaccinated child gets measles and spreads it to immunocompromised innocent children, you should be held responsible.
Why? Vaccinated people spread disease too.
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Alexspi19:51:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
anytime gov. offers services that deal with a lot of people to be in at one place there will be things enforced like vaccinations....it's so they cover themselves from being sued
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Deji19:51:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
All of your children are going to live in a hellscape soon anyway, so why fight over vaccines?
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π¦Whiteπ¦19:51:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Just keep your unvaccinated kid away from mine
And mine πππ»
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nutela19:51:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There's no wild cases of polio being sorted yet it's still a regular part of the vaccination program. Humpries: That's right in this country - and the truth is, is that, like I said, the injected vaccines do not interrupt propagation of the of the virus. So if somebody comes to this country, who has recently had an oral polio vaccine and they're shedding a highly virulent strain, then people in this country can start passing it around.
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SID19:51:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Dan, stick to C++ and let the experts stick to medicine.
Need to agree with this
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Crypto_Crow19:51:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
It’s freeloading off those that vaccinate. Herd immunity.
Here immunity is a farce. It died when we started vaccinations.
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Sam Kazemian19:52:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong so long as all have freedom
i think markets are more important than freedom. as long as there's a free market, freedom is a by-product
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Christian Schramm19:52:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You think doctors have done anything more than regurgitate what they were taught as fact by government regulated schools
Laetrile/Nitrilosides along with Pancreatic Enzymes control the growth of Trophoblasts
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M19:52:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Okay well I can say anything is a lie without proof, so this is going to go no where. If you ever get cancer you can try her method.
I'm a doctor specializing in holistic care and the treatment of chronic illness. I dont agree with everything she said, but she was right about a lot of things. If her research was given the proper study it deserved she would have changed the world in a greater way than she did. Make no mistake about it, but parasites are an absolute epidemic in the US and research since she passed has validated that SOME parasites do cause cancer. Without a doubt they are a foundational piece to much of the cancer epidemic
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Daniel Larimer19:52:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
If you want to argue for freedom to not be vaccinated, that is okay but when your unvaccinated child gets measles and spreads it to immunocompromised innocent children, you should be held responsible.
The world is much more complex than you think. Your vax kid also sheds virus
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Christian Schramm19:52:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Need to agree with this
No I don’t
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Tequila19:52:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Do you understand what a vaccine does to your body?
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tms1337 π19:52:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
vaccines are surely beneficial, any investigation in side effects is ok but claiming we need to stop is
stupid
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Katie Roman19:52:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Exactly
Well depending on the vaccine, it varies in its effectiveness for all. Plus those with compromised immune systems, ie someone with cancer. So that’s what this person is trying to say. But I don’t know how to account for that other than immune compromised people avoiding the general public.
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Alexspi19:52:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
in a way we need more freedom but also when in public places there are things to be enforced
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Daniel Larimer19:53:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
in a way we need more freedom but also when in public places there are things to be enforced
Who makes that centralized decision
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nutela19:53:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Shouldn't we focus on making people healthy?
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Christian Schramm19:53:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The world is much more complex than you think. Your vax kid also sheds virus
Dan. What are your thoughts on the Trophoblastic Thesis of Cancer. Dr Nick Gonzalez wrote a book about it
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Crypto_Crow19:53:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The world is much more complex than you think. Your vax kid also sheds virus
Exactly, you can be contagious after a bmr vaccination
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Alexspi19:53:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who makes that centralized decision
the gov. makes those decisions because we are giving them the power to do so
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Tequila19:53:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
in a way we need more freedom but also when in public places there are things to be enforced
Can you not see how this can be abused? The precedent that sets
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tms1337 π19:53:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ilkercitikbel
whats up with you posting something not vaccination related xD
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DM19:53:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Why? Vaccinated people spread disease too.
It depends on the illness. Measles was supposed to have been eradicated by now but a resurgence has been seen in the antivaxxer population and it can adversely affect innocent immunocompromised children who have not been vaccinated due to their poor immunity.
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wilfra | marketcap.one19:54:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who makes that centralized decision
15/21 BP's
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nutela19:54:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
For example: I want to support homeless people. I happened to know what a good diet is (my brother has MS and he's on the Dr. Wahls diet) but how do I ensure someone will use my money well?
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Anderson19:54:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ilkercitikbel
XRP The Standard 2022
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Alexspi19:54:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
otherwise they are not doing their jobs
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Tequila19:54:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Someone needs to make a movie about this, showing the impact of these decisions
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Tequila19:54:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Similar to the butterfly effect except good
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos19:54:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who makes that centralized decision
who decided that we need wax?
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nutela19:54:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
It depends on the illness. Measles was supposed to have been eradicated by now but a resurgence has been seen in the antivaxxer population and it can adversely affect innocent immunocompromised children who have not been vaccinated due to their poor immunity.
Nope, vaccinated as well.
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Alexspi19:54:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
we all give tax money to the goverment so they can make decisons for us
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M19:54:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Well it's about the fact the vaccination can actually prevent several diseases.... I don't know about the US laws regarding vaccination schedules but in developming countries like India, it's not easy to survive without vaccination
That's nonsense. You're merely parroting what you're told to think. They are hiding the truth right under your noses. Polio is clinically identical to acute flaccid paralysis. Look at what happened following the mass vaccination of polio in india: https://www.livemint.com/Politics/XS6vPor5jFX3vKkaE7Ri6H/India-to-get-poliofree-status-amid-rise-in-acute-flaccid-pa.html
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Alexspi19:55:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
now the problem is that the gov. takes advantage on many things which is unfair to the citizens
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Christian Schramm19:55:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
who decided that we need wax?
FDA
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nutela19:55:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
That's nonsense. You're merely parroting what you're told to think. They are hiding the truth right under your noses. Polio is clinically identical to acute flaccid paralysis. Look at what happened following the mass vaccination of polio in india: https://www.livemint.com/Politics/XS6vPor5jFX3vKkaE7Ri6H/India-to-get-poliofree-status-amid-rise-in-acute-flaccid-pa.html
Indeed I also think that vaccines are actually used to keep the problem alive.. This is after many studies.. mind you..
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SID19:55:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who makes that centralized decision
Is it compulsory to get vaccinated in USA?
In China its compulsory and in India its optional...
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M19:55:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheSchrammHIT
Dan. What are your thoughts on the Trophoblastic Thesis of Cancer. Dr Nick Gonzalez wrote a book about it
Yeah, i'm sure he's studied that in his free time.
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Tequila19:55:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Imagine if the price of eos drops in half as the community divides due to disagreement on vaccination
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Christian Schramm19:55:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Yeah, i'm sure he's studied that in his free time.
Me too
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π¦Whiteπ¦19:55:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I’m starting to doubt the leader
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DM19:55:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Nope, vaccinated as well, they spread the disease.
If you have been vaccinated against measles, you will not spread it mate. You need to infected to spread it. Humans are not measles vectors.
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JP - ExploringEOS.com19:56:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who makes that centralized decision
Will you be participating in the meme contest? https://exploringeos.com/35-b1june-meme-contest-with-pixeos/
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Tequila19:56:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Let me throw this at you too
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Tequila19:56:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I am the real dan Larimer
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nutela19:56:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
If you have been vaccinated against measles, you will not spread it mate. You need to infected to spread it. Humans are not measles vectors.
Which you are when you get vaccinated, MMR has live virus
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Tequila19:56:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Other one in here is a scammer that stole my phone in 2017
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Δ°lker Γitikbel19:56:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tms1337
whats up with you posting something not vaccination related xD
It shows the progress of Eos in a short time. Learn to track
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okayplanet | Patreos19:56:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hdler
I’m starting to doubt the leader
Always doubt the leader
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π¦Whiteπ¦19:56:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
I am the real dan Larimer
And I’m satoshi
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Katie Roman19:56:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Is it compulsory to get vaccinated in USA?
In China its compulsory and in India its optional...
The US is having that fight now. The biggest thing is the school debate, can an unvaccinated child attend a public/ private school that requires vaccination
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tms1337 π19:57:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ilkercitikbel
It shows the progress of Eos in a short time. Learn to track
that was a joke, everyone is talking vaccines today
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tms1337 π19:57:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
glad somebody posted something crypto related
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Katie Roman19:57:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
On one hand it’s their school they can make the standards they wish. On the other hand, it’s an invasion of privacy medically
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Δ°lker Γitikbel19:57:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
aco1731
XRP The Standard 2022
EOS rank #2 π june is coming
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M19:57:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
If you have been vaccinated against measles, you will not spread it mate. You need to infected to spread it. Humans are not measles vectors.
wrong. If you've been recently vaccinated with measles you aren't allowed into areas of hospitals because it's known that you can spread it. http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/measles-transmitted-vaccinated-gov-researchers-confirm
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DM19:57:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Which you are when you get vaccinated, MMR has live virus. It has been proven too.
It has live attenuated virus. That is active immunity which does not lead to infection if others. You are clearly not a medic.
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nutela19:57:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
The US is having that fight now. The biggest thing is the school debate, can an unvaccinated child attend a public/ private school that requires vaccination
I think immunization ≠ vaccination if you look at the fine print.
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wilfra | marketcap.one19:57:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
I am the real dan Larimer
so you are satoshi.
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SID19:58:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
That's nonsense. You're merely parroting what you're told to think. They are hiding the truth right under your noses. Polio is clinically identical to acute flaccid paralysis. Look at what happened following the mass vaccination of polio in india: https://www.livemint.com/Politics/XS6vPor5jFX3vKkaE7Ri6H/India-to-get-poliofree-status-amid-rise-in-acute-flaccid-pa.html
Polio vaccine is a live attenuated vaccine... It's always being said that any defect in polio vaccination can cause a mass damage... That's the reason polio vaccine is being given on the same day in whole country
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nutela19:58:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Also since a shot has a limited life time how do you know it has still any effect?
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Katie Roman19:58:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
I think immunization ≠ vaccination if you look at the fine print.
That’s true. They could naturally been exposed and gotten immunity that way
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Tequila19:58:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I’m developing “eos pv (pro vaccination)” as we speak
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nutela19:58:35 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Polio vaccine is a live attenuated vaccine... It's always being said that any defect in polio vaccination can cause a mass damage... That's the reason polio vaccine is being given on the same day in whole country
Cool, didn't know that.
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Tequila19:58:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It is Dan larimers true vision
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M19:58:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If vaccines worked, why would a 100% vaccinated population come down with the very thing they were said to be protected against? Think REAL hard on this one. https://ahrp.org/u-s-navy-acknowledges-mmr-vaccine-caused-viral-mumps-outbreak/
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SID19:59:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
The US is having that fight now. The biggest thing is the school debate, can an unvaccinated child attend a public/ private school that requires vaccination
Same situation is in China... Students will be refused to get admission in schools if they are not being vaccinated
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wilfra | marketcap.one19:59:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
If vaccines worked, why would a 100% vaccinated population come down with the very thing they were said to be protected against? Think REAL hard on this one. https://ahrp.org/u-s-navy-acknowledges-mmr-vaccine-caused-viral-mumps-outbreak/
'if seat belts save lives, how come people wearing them die everyday'
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M19:59:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Polio vaccine is a live attenuated vaccine... It's always being said that any defect in polio vaccination can cause a mass damage... That's the reason polio vaccine is being given on the same day in whole country
Brilliant! So the vaccine causes the same thing as the thing you're trying to prevent, so you better use it more so it doesn't cause the things it causes? Got it!
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nutela19:59:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Can anybody model incentives? How do you do it? Model languages?
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Daniel Larimer20:00:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
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M20:00:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
'if seat belts save lives, how come people wearing them die everyday'
Do seatbelts involve injecting neurotoxic agents into your body involuntarily, or is that something you can elect to use or not?
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Tequila20:00:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
Yes
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nutela20:00:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Same situation is in China... Students will be refused to get admission in schools if they are not being vaccinated
Even colleges in the USA, why?
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HeadiEddie20:00:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
Similar to the butterfly effect except good
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Tequila20:00:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But that is a general observation about our society right now as well
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Justin Buck20:00:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
15/21 BP's
Consensus! π
Fork or join a different existing network, if you disagree with consensus.
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:00:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Do seatbelts involve injecting neurotoxic agents into your body involuntarily, or is that something you can elect to use or not?
i don't know the answer, i just know that 'look here is an example where vaccines did not work' is not a valid argument.
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M20:00:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Same situation is in China... Students will be refused to get admission in schools if they are not being vaccinated
That would be a good thing. That's some heavy duty brainwashing they're getting over there.
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SID20:00:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Cool, didn't know that. How do they do that? Everybody stops working?
In India there is a mass campaign for this... Government school teachers and medical staff runs a mass campaign where parents will bring there children to get polio vaccine
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Deji20:01:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Irony: An anti vac person wondering how diseases spread in a vaccinated society, while spreading diseases, by being unvaccinated.
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nutela20:01:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
That's why Steem didn't work; less work to agree and just hit lik!
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Emma20:01:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
The US is having that fight now. The biggest thing is the school debate, can an unvaccinated child attend a public/ private school that requires vaccination
I will be happy to keep the kids at home if I can deduct the expenses for their private education. That saves the others vaccinated kids.
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:01:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
i don't know the answer, i just know that 'look here is an example where vaccines did not work' is not a valid argument.
vaccines don't have to be perfect or even close to perfect, to be worth having.
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DM20:01:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
If you were truly looking at research, you would not be arguing against vaccination. What makes it worse is that you are a person of influence.
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nutela20:01:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We should have anonimzed Steem so everybody would actually read first.. then disclose after 7 days..
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Fuzzy20:02:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Vaccines and antibiotics saved more life than any other medicines...
Some of the contraindications for vaccines can be immuno compromised person...
As a medico I can assure that vaccination is good thing...
What if i told u many of the books u read in medical school are funded in part by conflict of interest?
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Fluffhead20:02:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I have my eos tokens on binance and have never created an eos account and did not participate in the ICO. I would like to move my tokens off of binance and into a ledger compatible wallet on my PC. Does anyone have any info about how I should go about doing this? (I also want whatever particular wallet I choose to be compatible with the upcoming EFX token swap...)
Thanks for the help!
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nutela20:02:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
If you were truly looking at research, you would not be arguing against vaccination. What makes it worse is that you are a person of influence.
Maybe you should read independent research instead of jabbing poor kids and causing brain damage?
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Alexspi20:02:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
if the vast majority of the population make an issue of vaccination, i'm sure it could end up for the parent to decide for getting the kids vaccinated
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R8 - everything is an altcoin20:02:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
no price discussion. vax is ok but absolutely no moon talk.
Can we talk about vaccines on the moon?
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DM20:02:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
What if i told u many of the books u read in medical school are funded in part by conflict of interest?
Well conducted research is objective.
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Crypto_Crow20:02:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
This is what generally happens in real life too. And then, after they told you not to come near their vaxxed children, and you ask them if they have done the research themselves, the answer is always, without exception: NO
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M20:02:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
i don't know the answer, i just know that 'look here is an example where vaccines did not work' is not a valid argument.
I've also provided the argument that the vaccines are causing an increase of diseases as vaccines are by their very nature pro-inflammatory agents, and if you were to boil down all chronic illness to one thing you would see that it is an inflammatory issue.
Research data on the biochemical mechanisms of immune response to vaccines suggests that virtually ALL vaccines work by inducing IL-17. This too is no secret to the CDC. The authors from the following study acknowledge the real dangers associated with vaccines inducing IL-17, but it seems a minor afterthought to them. This paper from 2010 is about the “modernization” of vaccines, and it clearly illustrates the overall dangerous imprecision that is vaccine science and application. (R) Here’s a quote from that paper:
IL-17 is a key player in the inflammation and tissue destruction associated with autoimmune disease models such as Experimental autoimmune encephalitis (EAE)[52] and collagen-induced arthritis[77]. Most autoimmune models deliver antigens in adjuvants such as Complete Freund’s Adjuvant (CFA) [52]or pertussis toxin [39] to induce the inflammatory disease phenotype. Although CFA was initially thought to drive potent Th1 responses, it is now clear that CFA can drive differentiation of naΓ―ve T cells into Th17 pathway[52]. Further pertussis toxin can also induce pathogenic Th17 inflammatory responses in the setting of vaccination[39]. These studies highlight the need for detailed characterization of adjuvants prior to inclusion into vaccine strategies since the delicate balance of IL-17 in vaccine induced immunity may define tissue destruction or immune protection.
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SID20:03:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Brilliant! So the vaccine causes the same thing as the thing you're trying to prevent, so you better use it more so it doesn't cause the things it causes? Got it!
Not actually... It's a risk worth to be taken... I have seen people getting handicapped due to polio virus... But during recent years I haven't seen a single case of polio in opd
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Fuzzy20:03:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What if i said the best propaganda is 99% true
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:03:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
no research or evidence to consider really. i agree it'd be great if people could share some links or make evidence backed arguments. personally i'm skeptical but curious.
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Fuzzy20:03:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Just thoughts to consider...
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okayplanet | Patreos20:03:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
This is the broken part of research. The creative breadth of hypotheses to explore is now more contained--due to grants, funding, corporate partnerships, etc. I think the research that is conducted can be decent, but the pre-selected topics are what stifles innovation and discovery.
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SID20:03:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Even colleges in the USA, why?
Well in that case I support Dan... Vaccination should be optional
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Fluffhead20:03:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I didn’t see any info in the pinned message about my question and I’ve been doing some research on medium and reddit but still confused as to the best way to go about doing this
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Fuzzy20:03:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Especially when 100% certain about anything
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Alexspi20:03:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
people need to speak up and show facts on why vaccines is bad
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R8 - everything is an altcoin20:03:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
I've also provided the argument that the vaccines are causing an increase of diseases as vaccines are by their very nature pro-inflammatory agents, and if you were to boil down all chronic illness to one thing you would see that it is an inflammatory issue.
Research data on the biochemical mechanisms of immune response to vaccines suggests that virtually ALL vaccines work by inducing IL-17. This too is no secret to the CDC. The authors from the following study acknowledge the real dangers associated with vaccines inducing IL-17, but it seems a minor afterthought to them. This paper from 2010 is about the “modernization” of vaccines, and it clearly illustrates the overall dangerous imprecision that is vaccine science and application. (R) Here’s a quote from that paper:
IL-17 is a key player in the inflammation and tissue destruction associated with autoimmune disease models such as Experimental autoimmune encephalitis (EAE)[52] and collagen-induced arthritis[77]. Most autoimmune models deliver antigens in adjuvants such as Complete Freund’s Adjuvant (CFA) [52]or pertussis toxin [39] to induce the inflammatory disease phenotype. Although CFA was initially thought to drive potent Th1 responses, it is now clear that CFA can drive differentiation of naΓ―ve T cells into Th17 pathway[52]. Further pertussis toxin can also induce pathogenic Th17 inflammatory responses in the setting of vaccination[39]. These studies highlight the need for detailed characterization of adjuvants prior to inclusion into vaccine strategies since the delicate balance of IL-17 in vaccine induced immunity may define tissue destruction or immune protection.
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Fluffhead20:04:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Vaccines - I must be in the wrong group. I’m seeking advice about EOS
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Alexspi20:04:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
that way it can become a decision to the individual
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DM20:04:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Maybe you should read independent research instead of jabbing poor kids and causing brain damage? You're the doctor here no?
Ideally all research should have on balance a significant degree of independence. Your problem is simply one of being overly influenced by others and of course being ignorant.
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SID20:04:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
What if i told u many of the books u read in medical school are funded in part by conflict of interest?
Yes it does... Phama companies has nexus with medical staffs
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M20:04:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Not actually... It's a risk worth to be taken... I have seen people getting handicapped due to polio virus... But during recent years I haven't seen a single case of polio in opd
You've never seen acute flaccid paralysis? How about Guillen Barre Syndrome? How about Transverse Myelitis. Those are all synonyms for vaccine injuries which mimic polio, btw.
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SID20:04:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And it's a multi billion dollar business
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nutela20:04:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Ideally all research should have on balance a significant degree of independence. Your problem is simply one of being overly influenced by others and of course being ignorant.
I've dedicated years on this topic. Try me.
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Fluffhead20:04:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
I have my eos tokens on binance and have never created an eos account and did not participate in the ICO. I would like to move my tokens off of binance and into a ledger compatible wallet on my PC. Does anyone have any info about how I should go about doing this? (I also want whatever particular wallet I choose to be compatible with the upcoming EFX token swap...)
Thanks for the help!
Any admins in here could help?
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M20:04:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
Vaccines - I must be in the wrong group. I’m seeking advice about EOS
Buy moor
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DM20:04:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
You've never seen acute flaccid paralysis? How about Guillen Barre Syndrome? How about Transverse Myelitis. Those are all synonyms for vaccine injuries which mimic polio, btw.
False.
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SID20:05:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
You've never seen acute flaccid paralysis? How about Guillen Barre Syndrome? How about Transverse Myelitis. Those are all synonyms for vaccine injuries which mimic polio, btw.
I have seen GBS few months ago... It was a 17 years young boy
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Daniel Larimer20:05:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
If you were truly looking at research, you would not be arguing against vaccination. What makes it worse is that you are a person of influence.
If you want to assume I am uninformed and your research is better than mine go ahead
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DM20:05:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
I've dedicated years on this topic. Try me. You're the one being ignorant.
You can dedicate all you want and still not be informed.
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okayplanet | Patreos20:05:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
Vaccines - I must be in the wrong group. I’m seeking advice about EOS
You now have to go to the Vax channels to get EOS info. We swapped.
DB
DJ Blockchain20:05:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
If you want to assume I am uninformed and your research is better than mine go ahead
Appeal to conspiracy.
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M20:05:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
False.
Your unsupported declaration makes it so.
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Fluffhead20:05:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I had read a bit about using the scatter wallet but wasn’t able to figure out how to generate new keys and everything (i have never created an eos account before)
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Fluffhead20:06:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Any advice would be appreciated
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Crypto_Crow20:06:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If you are REALLY interested, check out this series of videos:
https://youtu.be/ElI5q0BWKv0
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Daniel Larimer20:06:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You can dedicate all you want and still not be informed.
You only consider someone informed when they agree with you
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nutela20:06:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You can dedicate all you want and still not be informed.
True but if you want to know the truth and have no special interests... It actually works to study all pro and cons.
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R8 - everything is an altcoin20:06:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
Vaccines - I must be in the wrong group. I’m seeking advice about EOS
EOS is a vaccine against conformity
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Fuzzy20:06:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
Vaccines - I must be in the wrong group. I’m seeking advice about EOS
Eos is the beginning of blockchain beyond bitcoin. Expect anything of substance to be spoken about here imk
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M20:06:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
I have seen GBS few months ago... It was a 17 years young boy
And how recently was he vaccinated?
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Tequila20:06:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You only consider someone informed when they agree with you
This is the problem. Why do people feel they know 100% they they are right
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okayplanet | Patreos20:06:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
Any advice would be appreciated
I'd recommend a hardware wallet if you have the $$$$$. Otherwise Scatter is good, and they have a telegram channel for further questions and help.
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R8 - everything is an altcoin20:06:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Eos is the beginning of blockchain beyond bitcoin. Expect anything of substance to be spoken about here imo
π
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Deji20:07:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
Research? There are several really big buildings in my city full of medical professionals who not only read, but understand and conduct research. They have letters after their names which mean that they are qualified nurses and doctors. I've never heard a single one of them argue against vaccinations.
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Daniel Larimer20:07:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
My stance is that in an ambiguous situation the burden of proof has not been met to convince me
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DM20:07:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
If you want to assume I am uninformed and your research is better than mine go ahead
Where does one start? You go ahead since you are the anti vaxxer. You seem to believe that people who may have had adverse effects of vaccination are all the evidence you need to dispute the effectiveness of vaccinations.
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Crypto_Crow20:07:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
If you are REALLY interested, check out this series of videos:
https://youtu.be/ElI5q0BWKv0
This will inform you. If you let it.
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:07:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
I've also provided the argument that the vaccines are causing an increase of diseases as vaccines are by their very nature pro-inflammatory agents, and if you were to boil down all chronic illness to one thing you would see that it is an inflammatory issue.
Research data on the biochemical mechanisms of immune response to vaccines suggests that virtually ALL vaccines work by inducing IL-17. This too is no secret to the CDC. The authors from the following study acknowledge the real dangers associated with vaccines inducing IL-17, but it seems a minor afterthought to them. This paper from 2010 is about the “modernization” of vaccines, and it clearly illustrates the overall dangerous imprecision that is vaccine science and application. (R) Here’s a quote from that paper:
IL-17 is a key player in the inflammation and tissue destruction associated with autoimmune disease models such as Experimental autoimmune encephalitis (EAE)[52] and collagen-induced arthritis[77]. Most autoimmune models deliver antigens in adjuvants such as Complete Freund’s Adjuvant (CFA) [52]or pertussis toxin [39] to induce the inflammatory disease phenotype. Although CFA was initially thought to drive potent Th1 responses, it is now clear that CFA can drive differentiation of naΓ―ve T cells into Th17 pathway[52]. Further pertussis toxin can also induce pathogenic Th17 inflammatory responses in the setting of vaccination[39]. These studies highlight the need for detailed characterization of adjuvants prior to inclusion into vaccine strategies since the delicate balance of IL-17 in vaccine induced immunity may define tissue destruction or immune protection.
thanks, i haven't heard of any of that before. if this science-based argument against vaccines is accurate, basically that they're bad for you, then ya i can understand people being against them. feels like maybe overkill to not vax your kids but i don't have data to support that. it's about the data for me.
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nutela20:07:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
My stance is that in an ambiguous situation the burden of proof has not been met to convince me
How can we test that Dan?
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M20:08:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
This is the problem. Why do people feel they know 100% that they are right
Why do "fully vaccinated" populations meeting the definition of herd immunity develop measles as they did in Quebec in 2011, where over 97% of the population was vaccinated and over 50% recevied 2 doses?
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Kent Cherry20:08:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan, is there anything being proposed to allow for longer staking periods? Up to a month maybe? Would be nice for added security.
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Fluffhead20:08:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
I'd recommend a hardware wallet if you have the $$$$$. Otherwise Scatter is good, and they have a telegram channel for further questions and help.
Yes, I have a ledger. I am seeking advice as to the best way to get my EOS off of binance and into a ledger supported wallet on my PC. I don’t have an eos account (yet)
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Chainsaw20:08:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
t.me/EOSproject
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Daniel Larimer20:08:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Deji
Research? There are several really big buildings in my city full of medical professionals who not only read, but understand and conduct research. They have letters after their names which mean that they are qualified nurses and doctors. I've never heard a single one of them argue against vaccinations.
There are similar situations with people with economic degrees running our bank
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SID20:08:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
And how recently was he vaccinated?
Not too recent... It was during his early age... But probability of vaccination injuries are very less.. There are people who are immuno compromised
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DM20:08:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Your unsupported declaration makes it so.
Those conditions are caused by viruses not vaccinations.
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Luk20:08:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
skepticism ends where you have to be skeptical about your skepticism π€ͺ
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nutela20:08:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Where does one start? You go ahead since you are the anti vaxxer. You seem to believe that people who may have had adverse effects of vaccination are all the evidence you need to dispute the effectiveness of vaccinations.
Neil Miller writes on the efficacy on vaccines. Almost none are 100% and what happens after sufficient time? You need a booster. Get it? Or didn't you get your vaccine against stupidity?
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Fuzzy20:09:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
Im showing people legit info...
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DM20:09:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You only consider someone informed when they agree with you
Not true. You are making untrue assertions.
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Fluffhead20:09:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Are there any other eos telegram groups that might be able to help?
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Tequila20:09:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Why do "fully vaccinated" populations meeting the definition of herd immunity develop measles as they did in Quebec in 2011, where over 97% of the population was vaccinated and over 50% recevied 2 doses?
Are vaccinations permanent immunity? I find it hard to believe that any community is fully vaccinated. Most people I know have not been vaccinated since grade school
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nutela20:09:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If you know you'll be supported no matter what you do, what would happen?
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Fuzzy20:10:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
My entire point is that we dont have enough information that hasnt been tainted to make any good decisions and one side is trying to force vaccines on others...when the other side generally doesnt want to force anything
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SID20:10:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
That needs a mass scale research.. Probably governments won't fund such research as they make the immunization schedules...
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Fuzzy20:10:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Most anti vaccination people dont want to force anyone to do anything
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SID20:10:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Even colleges in the USA, why?
That's the issue..
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DM20:10:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Neil Miller writes on the efficacy on vaccines. Almost none are 100% and what happens after sufficient time? You need a booster. Get it? Or didn't you get your vaccine against stupidity?
False again. Not all vaccines need boosters. So you did not know that?
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Fluffhead20:10:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Should I use the fairy wallet?
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Daniel Larimer20:10:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Im showing people legit info...
Yeah. That’s my point is people are unwilling to consider facts that disagree with their worldview.
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Fuzzy20:10:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Meanwhile the other "side" seems intent on forcing it and demonizing those who ask questions
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Fluffhead20:10:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Will that be compatible with the EFX token swap?
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nutela20:11:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
False again. Not all vaccines need boosters. So you did not know that?
Fail, you just contradicted yourself.
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Fuzzy20:11:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Questions == foundation of science
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DJ Blockchain20:11:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Paranoia is a burden.
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Fuzzy20:11:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Yeah. That’s my point is people are unwilling to consider facts that disagree with their worldview.
You should lisren to dan ariely
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Fuzzy20:11:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
He is amazing...
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Tequila20:11:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Yeah. That’s my point is people are unwilling to consider facts that disagree with their worldview.
I blame public schools
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Fuzzy20:11:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Not only does he make wonderful points
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okayplanet | Patreos20:11:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
Yes, I have a ledger. I am seeking advice as to the best way to get my EOS off of binance and into a ledger supported wallet on my PC. I don’t have an eos account (yet)
First you need to create an EOS account. There are a few ways to do that--Lynx wallet app can create one if you pay, Cypherglass just launched something that will let you create an account, Sense app *might* set you up if you ask in their telegram (maybe I was just lucky).
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Steve Smith20:11:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Is this a good time, to ask When Lambo?? ππ
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Fuzzy20:11:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
He can cover these topics in a way that makes people laugh
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Fuzzy20:11:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Which i have a hard time doing π
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Daniel Larimer20:12:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
Is this a good time, to ask When Lambo?? ππ
Right after vaccine cure the world
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Steve Smith20:12:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Right after vaccine cure the world
LOL
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Fluffhead20:12:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
First you need to create an EOS account. There are a few ways to do that--Lynx wallet app can create one if you pay, Cypherglass just launched something that will let you create an account, Sense app *might* set you up if you ask in their telegram (maybe I was just lucky).
Ok, I saw a video on the lynx mobile app
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Jenny Walsh20:12:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
no i'm joking. if you say 'when moon' admins will kick you out of here. but it's vax-athon for hours and they don't mind lol
Thanks alot. It is noted.
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okayplanet | Patreos20:12:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Right after vaccine cure the world
Ha! That isn't good.
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Fluffhead20:12:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I’d prefer not to hold my tokens on my phone though
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Fuzzy20:12:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
Is this a good time, to ask When Lambo?? ππ
When lambo. Every minut3 of every day bro
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HeadiEddie20:12:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
My mind is 100% focused on lambo guano carts.
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Fuzzy20:12:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lambo raves with kittens...
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Fluffhead20:12:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So I can create an account with lynx and then import my keys into scatter to be secured by ledger. Would that be recommended?
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Tequila20:13:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There are definitely not examples of the medical community being completely wrote, leading to disastrous results
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Steve Smith20:13:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
When lambo. Every minut3 of every day bro
I know, but damn, I go outside, come back and this channel is riidled with comments. Without reading them, I am going to guess no progress has been made... π
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Tequila20:13:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Question nothing slaves
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okayplanet | Patreos20:13:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
That's a big pharma lambo, not a crypto lambo
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nutela20:13:35 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If you want to sell something it never helps to know the negative aspects...
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Fuzzy20:13:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
I know, but damn, I go outside, come back and this channel is riidled with comments. Without reading them, I am going to guess no progress has been made... π
Progress is iteration
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Fuzzy20:13:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We are iterating ☺️
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M20:13:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
Are vaccinations permanent immunity? I find it hard to believe that any community is fully vaccinated. Most people I know have not been vaccinated since grade school
That's a good question. Do they create any actual immunity? That's another good question, since we know that the introduction of the antigens of vaccines is outside of the normal routes of exposure of pathogens, not to mention that vaccines are coupling an immune antigen response to the pathogen with FOREIGN HUMAN DNA. Don't you think that's a bit risky to be initiating an immune response to foreign human DNA? When they use human diploid cells in vaccines, that's what is happening and absolutely one of the mechanisms by which they are driving PROINFLAMMATORY diseases.
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M20:14:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tooLegitCrypto
Paranoia is a burden.
Ignorance of the global depopulation agenda is a far bigger burden, i assure you.
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nutela20:14:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
That's a good question. Do they create any actual immunity? That's another good question, since we know that the introduction of the antigens of vaccines is outside of the normal routes of exposure of pathogens, not to mention that vaccines are coupling an immune antigen response to the pathogen with FOREIGN HUMAN DNA. Don't you think that's a bit risky to be initiating an immune response to foreign human DNA? When they use human diploid cells in vaccines, that's what is happening and absolutely one of the mechanisms by which they are driving PROINFLAMMATORY diseases.
Free medical education on EOS Telegram sure beats college debt!
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Fluffhead20:14:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
This group sucks
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:15:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan, if you had to create a new nation, how would you maintain public goods, roads, public areas etc?
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Tequila20:15:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol
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Tequila20:15:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
Dan, if you had to create a new nation, how would you maintain public goods, roads, public areas etc?
If we start talking about who will build the roads, I’m out
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Steve Smith20:15:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I'm going to gg and read my book. This is clearly going nowhere.... Challege someone's opinion, and you get resistance. Challenge their beliefs and all hell breaks loose...
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Tequila20:15:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
:)
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Fuzzy20:15:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
This group sucks
I just posted a gif if rainbow kittens. And u dont like it? π―
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Daniel Larimer20:15:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
Dan, if you had to create a new nation, how would you maintain public goods, roads, public areas etc?
Roads are not a public good. That’s why treating them as such leads to congestion
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:15:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
If we start talking about who will build the roads, I’m out
π
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Fuzzy20:16:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
If we start talking about who will build the roads, I’m out
Lol
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okayplanet | Patreos20:16:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
So I can create an account with lynx and then import my keys into scatter to be secured by ledger. Would that be recommended?
I've gone that route before. It isn't bad. But you can't import your ledger keys into Scatter. Your ledger keys stay inside your ledger forever--that's why it is secure.
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okayplanet | Patreos20:16:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Scatter will just ask your ledger to sign stuff
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Fuzzy20:16:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
I've gone that route before. It isn't bad. But you can't import your ledger keys into Scatter. Your ledger keys stay inside your ledger forever--that's why it is secure.
I know little about lynx so im unable to speak to that
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Fuzzy20:16:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I've heard of it but have not used it
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M20:16:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Majority isn't necessarily ever going to get things right. To some, we have "consensus" as the "science is settled" on vaccines right now.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:16:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Roads are not a public good. That’s why treating them as such leads to congestion
Everything privatized
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nutela20:16:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Let
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Fluffhead20:16:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ok okayplanet well thank you for the help. I will see if I can figure it out.
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Fuzzy20:16:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Majority isn't necessarily ever going to get things right. To some, we have "consensus" as the "science is settled" on vaccines right now.
Consensus is dynamic and ever changing.
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:16:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
Dan, if you had to create a new nation, how would you maintain public goods, roads, public areas etc?
father market shall provide :)
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Fluffhead20:17:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
I know little about lynx so im unable to speak to that
Are you able to speak to any of the questions I’ve posed?
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Fuzzy20:17:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
How do we enable a system where even the most unpopular opinion can exist?
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Alexspi20:17:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Everything privatized
who needs roads when drones are coming π
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okayplanet | Patreos20:17:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
I know little about lynx so im unable to speak to that
I am interested in checking out the cypherglass solution, but haven't heard much about it
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Fuzzy20:17:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Without such a system...we will never know the answers to the questions we seek
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:17:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
who needs roads when drones are coming π
The gov does. How will their road pirates plunder us?
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nutela20:18:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
How do we enable a system where even the most unpopular opinion can exist?
Just add likes, ignore what you don't.
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Alexspi20:18:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lets not spend millions on roads when there is a better tech coming to take over that
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Fuzzy20:18:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And needlessly dividing one another into groups of deplorables does not help us
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:18:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Roads are not a public good. That’s why treating them as such leads to congestion
ok they belong to the city, in our case it would be a community so would it be pay as you go model or rather funding from REX or WPS?
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okayplanet | Patreos20:18:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
Ok okayplanet well thank you for the help. I will see if I can figure it out.
You got this. Your ledger keys will always be secure, so it's hard to fuck up. Just don't sign stupid transactions and you will be fine.
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Katie Roman20:18:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Roads are not a public good. That’s why treating them as such leads to congestion
Would people pay to use roads?
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Fuzzy20:18:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Would people pay to use roads?
Of course
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:18:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
ok they belong to the city, in our case it would be a community so would it be pay as you go model or rather funding from REX or WPS?
All can be offered and the best option will be adopted
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Fluffhead20:18:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
You got this. Your ledger keys will always be secure, so it's hard to fuck up. Just don't sign stupid transactions and you will be fine.
π
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nutela20:18:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Without such a system...we will never know the answers to the questions we seek
The value is in exploring alternative views. Like flat earth, how do you prove it is, it's not, is much more important that facts.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:19:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Would people pay to use roads?
Of course. We all already do
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Fluffhead20:19:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And I suppose scatter will support other tokens on the eos chain as well?
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Daniel Larimer20:19:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Would people pay to use roads?
They do today
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nutela20:19:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Facts is easy. Proving is hard.
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Fuzzy20:19:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And wouldnt be funding dark ops and trafficking rings in the process so it would likely be cheaper :)
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Alexspi20:19:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
if we can invent a car that lifts off the ground atleast 1" then roads are not needed
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Fuzzy20:19:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
The value is in exploring alternative views. Like flat earth, how do you prove it is, it's not, is much more important that facts.
Bingo
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Kram20:19:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Just keep your unvaccinated kid away from mine
if your kid was vaccinated, you should have no worries....
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:19:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
They do today
Thru inflation, taxes and tolls
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Jenny Walsh20:19:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Lamborghini Avendor π
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:19:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
ok they belong to the city, in our case it would be a community so would it be pay as you go model or rather funding from REX or WPS?
def REX. you can stake your land and get rewards from the tolls
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nutela20:19:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
if we can invent a car that lifts off the ground atleast 1" then roads are not needed
We already have that, it's called the B2.
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Katie Roman20:19:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Thru inflation, taxes and tolls
Right, I’m aware of that, I mean how would it differ from today? Straight tolls?
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Daniel Larimer20:20:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Right, I’m aware of that, I mean how would it differ from today? Straight tolls?
Ads
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nutela20:20:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Right, I’m aware of that, I mean how would it differ from today? Straight tolls?
Yeah and how to prevent it's not a monopoly?
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Alexspi20:20:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
We already have that, it's called the B2.
exactly, why spend millions of the tax money if the future is not roads
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Fuzzy20:20:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The ultimate answer to me is a solution that enables people to find their own truths and totally mitigates the need for force
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:20:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
They do today
how do you mantain monuments like colosseum? tokenization?
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Fuzzy20:21:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Replace force with voluntarism
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Daniel Larimer20:21:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Business world pay to bring customers. HOA in neighborhood
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Katie Roman20:21:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Ads
Okay, I could get down with this depending on the way it was implemented.
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Daniel Larimer20:21:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
how do you mantain monuments like colosseum? tokenization?
No. Private collection
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nutela20:21:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
exactly, why spend millions of the tax money if the future is not roads
Well.. someone wants power over us for sure.. so not give keys to the kingdom.. religion was invented for that purpouse.
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Kram20:21:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
if you find truth in any field, it will as the simple saying goes....let you free ... true freedom....
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:21:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
No. Private collection
of what?
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HeadiEddie20:21:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
How do we enable a system where even the most unpopular opinion can exist?
Holonic map. Endless space to object.
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:22:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
of what?
monuments. pretty sure he's saying they would be privately owned and managed.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:22:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Ads
Could be a business expense too
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:22:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
colosseum privately owned?
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:22:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Business owners association
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:22:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
colosseum privately owned?
Everything
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nutela20:23:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Kram
if you find truth in any field, it will as the simple saying goes....set you free ... true freedom....
True freedom is costly for power brokers..
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:23:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
colosseum privately owned?
i'll buy some tokens
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Katie Roman20:23:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
The ultimate answer to me is a solution that enables people to find their own truths and totally mitigates the need for force
Yes. I think for this to work there would have to be more distribution on funds though, capitalism only works if there’s capital in the system
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okayplanet | Patreos20:23:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
$1 billion in donations to repair Notre Dame
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nutela20:23:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Can you own land? Who had it first?
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Katie Roman20:23:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
$1 billion in donations to repair Notre Dame
That was crazy to me...
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:23:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Yes. I think for this to work there would have to be more distribution on funds though, capitalism only works if there’s capital in the system
There's capital in every system
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Katie Roman20:23:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
There's capital in every system
I mean you need money flowing through the system for capitalism to work.
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Katie Roman20:23:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Stagnate and it doesn’t
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Daniel Larimer20:24:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Money flows automatically when people want to trade
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:24:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Sure
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:24:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i think a limited government to make sure bad shit doesn't happen would be good but it's to argue against the private sector doing all that more efficiently.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:24:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Money flows automatically when people want to trade
π
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Tequila20:25:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Well you just had to go and do it, didn’t you Aneta.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:25:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
i think a limited government to make sure bad shit doesn't happen would be good but it's hard to argue against the private sector doing all that more efficiently.
Just a little bit of rape is ok?
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:25:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Just a little bit of rape is ok?
goverment there is to prevent the rape ;)
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:25:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
goverment is there to prevent the rape ;)
A rapist is never the one to prevent rape.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:26:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Governance != Government
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:26:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
Well you just had to go and do it, didn’t you Aneta.
I wish I could see what you've seen lol
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Alexspi20:26:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
the rape will be smoother with the gov. hehe π
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DataJunky | GenerEOS20:26:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Nice update for the poker dapp. Anyone interested in getting a private table together for a game? DM me for details and I'll add you to the list.
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nutela20:27:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
Nice update for the poker dapp. Anyone interested in getting a private table together for a game? DM me for details and I'll add you to the list.
Nice!
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:28:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
goverment is there to prevent the rape ;)
how? how does it prevents domestic violence? how does it prevents theft? It mostly punishes after the fact
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M20:29:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
How do we enable a system where even the most unpopular opinion can exist?
The free ideas remain, as long as they don't hurt anyone. That's the problem we have now though is that people are brainwashed into thinking something that is hurting them hurts them even more if the rest of the herd doesn't fall in line.
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okayplanet | Patreos20:29:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The government doesn't need to rape, but rather compel us to rape and betray on its behalf.
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nutela20:30:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
how? how does it prevents domestic violence? how does it prevents theft? It mostly punishes after the fact
Good point.
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nutela20:30:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
The government doesn't need to rape, but rather compel us to rape and betray on its behalf.
Even better point.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS20:31:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
how? how does it prevents domestic violence? how does it prevents theft? It mostly punishes after the fact
My buddy's girlfriend was screaming at him after he had a few too many drinks. Neighbors called the cops. They arrived, he opened the door and they beat the shit out of him and threw him in jail overnight. It's called the "drunk tank" around here.
No reason for it, other than it was a late night call and the cops are not liable for any damages.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS20:31:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Have a great day people. Enjoy it
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Fuzzy20:31:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
Yes it does... Phama companies has nexus with medical staffs
Is it safe to put 100% certainty on that then?
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Fuzzy20:31:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Just an honest question to consider internally
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Katie Roman20:32:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Money flows automatically when people want to trade
And if they don’t? And it just sits?
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HeadiEddie20:32:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hard not to have a great day while remembering this one.. "All of a sudden, the libertarians who are arguing for the status-quo property-rights system start sounding like central planning statists who know better how to run the economy."
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Fuzzy20:32:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
No need to respond but i think its important to consider
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:32:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Governance != Government
i agree. i hope ancaps or whoever get their own society one day and it works according to plan. the plan sounds great. it's just hard to trust it without it being tried full scale.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:32:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We are already in every society.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:33:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Everyday trading and building and creating value.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:33:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
U just can't see or understand us yet.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:33:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The faceless man
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:33:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There's a GoT reference for ya @daniellarimer
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:34:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
elements but not the entire society. governments still run everything. minarchy is a good stepping stone. government exists to run military and courts. if that works — fire them too.
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com20:34:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Most of vaccination driven chronic health problems have been observed as well. What's funny is that when a pro vaccine truth person points out the strong correlation between vaccination and autism various chronic health issues such as autoimmunity the the vaccine dogmatists will claim that correlation doesnt equate to causation and then show you a data manipulated chart of decreasing vaccine treated infections correlating with the introduction and use of vaccines. The irony is over their heads.
I see what you mean with the irony, and you are correct in strictly logical terms. The misunderstanding here is not so much the statement “correlation does not equal causation”, but the reasoning behind the conclusion. Perhaps a better way of approaching the question is: “What information do I have to back up that these two variables do/don’t correlate?” or “what other variables show correlation with this?”.
Let’s take autism as an example (since it is a common case of cause-and-effect used by antivaxxers)
Information that supports causation:
* Autism diagnosis rates have been on the rise since ~1980’s, which is also when the recommended vaccine list reached it’s modern state (except for Hepatitis B, which was added in the early 1990’s).
* The highest rates of Autism occurs in the Western world, which is also where the highest rates of vaccines are administered.
Information that rejects causation:
* Autism rates started rising dramatically shortly after the DSM-III-R provided the first checklist for diagnosing autism in 1987; before this there was no official diagnosis of the disorder.
* As mental health has gained acceptance and treatment options have been developed, the general rate of mental disorders has increased, including autism.
Here we see that the autism rate increase is not limited to correlating with the modern list of recommended vaccines. It correlates with other variables too, and this needs to be explored further.
Of course this is a very rough example and needs much more work to be completed, but it gives a good idea of how to approach statements of correlation.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:35:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wilframarketcap
elements but not the entire society. governments still run everything. minarchy is a good stepping stone. government exists to run military and courts. if that works — fire them too.
Governments try to control every aspect, but run very little
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Alexspi20:35:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
humans are not there yet to self govern themselves so we still need the government system to store order in this crazy world
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:35:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
My buddy's girlfriend was screaming at him after he had a few too many drinks. Neighbors called the cops. They arrived, he opened the door and they beat the shit out of him and threw him in jail overnight. It's called the "drunk tank" around here.
No reason for it, other than it was a late night call and the cops are not liable for any damages.
I think that the most difficult thing to solve in a new system would be the security. Using non violent means to stop others from violence is challenging and would require a big change in the mindest and rather the whole system change which would aim primarily on the wellbeing of individuals who would see little benefit in violent behaviour because theyd simply find joy in their lives nstead of frustration they live now
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:35:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
humans are not there yet to self govern themselves so we still need the government system to store order in this crazy world
Governments are made up of humans
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Fuzzy20:35:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
I see what you mean with the irony, and you are correct in strictly logical terms. The misunderstanding here is not so much the statement “correlation does not equal causation”, but the reasoning behind the conclusion. Perhaps a better way of approaching the question is: “What information do I have to back up that these two variables do/don’t correlate?” or “what other variables show correlation with this?”.
Let’s take autism as an example (since it is a common case of cause-and-effect used by antivaxxers)
Information that supports causation:
* Autism diagnosis rates have been on the rise since ~1980’s, which is also when the recommended vaccine list reached it’s modern state (except for Hepatitis B, which was added in the early 1990’s).
* The highest rates of Autism occurs in the Western world, which is also where the highest rates of vaccines are administered.
Information that rejects causation:
* Autism rates started rising dramatically shortly after the DSM-III-R provided the first checklist for diagnosing autism in 1987; before this there was no official diagnosis of the disorder.
* As mental health has gained acceptance and treatment options have been developed, the general rate of mental disorders has increased, including autism.
Here we see that the autism rate increase is not limited to correlating with the modern list of recommended vaccines. It correlates with other variables too, and this needs to be explored further.
Of course this is a very rough example and needs much more work to be completed, but it gives a good idea of how to approach statements of correlation.
This should be in a dac
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:35:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ur statement is contradictory
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wilfra | marketcap.one20:35:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
'i want no governments!' 'how about we get rid of 90% and see how that goes?' 'I SAID NO GOVERNMENT!!!' π
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Alexspi20:36:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Governments are made up of humans
yup and to set up rules for us to follow so we can have a sense of peace
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:36:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
I think that the most difficult thing to solve in a new system would be the security. Using non violent means to stop others from violence is challenging and would require a big change in the mindest and rather the whole system change which would aim primarily on the wellbeing of individuals who would see little benefit in violent behaviour because theyd simply find joy in their lives nstead of frustration they live now
Keep studying the difference bt aggressive and defensive force.
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Fuzzy20:36:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Ur statement is contradictory
Authoritarianism cannot exist without cognitive dissonance
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M20:36:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
I see what you mean with the irony, and you are correct in strictly logical terms. The misunderstanding here is not so much the statement “correlation does not equal causation”, but the reasoning behind the conclusion. Perhaps a better way of approaching the question is: “What information do I have to back up that these two variables do/don’t correlate?” or “what other variables show correlation with this?”.
Let’s take autism as an example (since it is a common case of cause-and-effect used by antivaxxers)
Information that supports causation:
* Autism diagnosis rates have been on the rise since ~1980’s, which is also when the recommended vaccine list reached it’s modern state (except for Hepatitis B, which was added in the early 1990’s).
* The highest rates of Autism occurs in the Western world, which is also where the highest rates of vaccines are administered.
Information that rejects causation:
* Autism rates started rising dramatically shortly after the DSM-III-R provided the first checklist for diagnosing autism in 1987; before this there was no official diagnosis of the disorder.
* As mental health has gained acceptance and treatment options have been developed, the general rate of mental disorders has increased, including autism.
Here we see that the autism rate increase is not limited to correlating with the modern list of recommended vaccines. It correlates with other variables too, and this needs to be explored further.
Of course this is a very rough example and needs much more work to be completed, but it gives a good idea of how to approach statements of correlation.
Autism is a symptom of inflammation. Autism is reversible through detoxification. What increases toxicity and inflammation in the body?
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:36:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
yup and to set up rules for us to follow so we can have a sense of peace
Then humans are ready to govern ourselves
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio20:36:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Authoritarianism cannot exist without cognitive dissonance
Possibly true. Early childhood is a good example.
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Fuzzy20:37:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
The free ideas remain, as long as they don't hurt anyone. That's the problem we have now though is that people are brainwashed into thinking something that is hurting them hurts them even more if the rest of the herd doesn't fall in line.
U are introducing subjective measures then
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos20:37:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Keep studying the difference bt aggressive and defensive force.
aikido?
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Fuzzy20:37:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Which wilp by their very nature undermine ur efforts
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Alexspi20:38:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Then humans are ready to govern ourselves
i think eos could develop into a self governing thru smart contracts...a great experimental place to do this is in venezuela
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Alexspi20:38:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i dunno why they havent created an eos side chain for venezuela...they could have their own block producers
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Katie Roman20:38:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Yes, I completely agree with what you say here and this vision. I think we saw on eos mainnet how distribution can lead to tilted outcomes, want to avoid that going forward. That’s why I would love an experimental chain that randomly allots vote power of varying accounts every 6 months or so and see what would happen there
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Frank Furter20:39:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
I see what you mean with the irony, and you are correct in strictly logical terms. The misunderstanding here is not so much the statement “correlation does not equal causation”, but the reasoning behind the conclusion. Perhaps a better way of approaching the question is: “What information do I have to back up that these two variables do/don’t correlate?” or “what other variables show correlation with this?”.
Let’s take autism as an example (since it is a common case of cause-and-effect used by antivaxxers)
Information that supports causation:
* Autism diagnosis rates have been on the rise since ~1980’s, which is also when the recommended vaccine list reached it’s modern state (except for Hepatitis B, which was added in the early 1990’s).
* The highest rates of Autism occurs in the Western world, which is also where the highest rates of vaccines are administered.
Information that rejects causation:
* Autism rates started rising dramatically shortly after the DSM-III-R provided the first checklist for diagnosing autism in 1987; before this there was no official diagnosis of the disorder.
* As mental health has gained acceptance and treatment options have been developed, the general rate of mental disorders has increased, including autism.
Here we see that the autism rate increase is not limited to correlating with the modern list of recommended vaccines. It correlates with other variables too, and this needs to be explored further.
Of course this is a very rough example and needs much more work to be completed, but it gives a good idea of how to approach statements of correlation.
Exactly, inclusion into the diagnosis of autism, or the spectrum, has significantly broadened in the past 20-30 years. Kids that were previously labeled as mentally retarded or learning diasbaled are now encompassed under the autism spectrum.
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com20:40:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Autism is a symptom of inflammation. Autism is reversible through detoxification. What increases toxicity and inflammation in the body?
Where did you get this information from? It's not something I've come across. I also tend to be skeptical of the word "detoxification" in general, so if you clarify what you mean by that word specifically that would help
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nutela20:40:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
Yes, I completely agree with what you say here and this vision. I think we saw on eos mainnet how distribution can lead to tilted outcomes, want to avoid that going forward. That’s why I would love an experimental chain that randomly allots vote power of varying accounts every 6 months or so and see what would happen there
Yes, provably fair randomness is an interesting thing to explore!
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nutela20:41:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
Where did you get this information from? It's not something I've come across. I also tend to be skeptical of the word "detoxification" in general, so if you clarify what you mean by that word specifically that would help
Hmm why would you be skeptical of detox?
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Katie Roman20:41:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Yes, provably fair randomness is an interesting thing to explore!
Like @daniellarimer said, eos mainnet was auctioned off to the highest bidder, I think he made it open source for a reason π
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Frank Furter20:42:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan, how and when will EOS get us to Ken’s San Diego party? I’m ready to book my room at the del Coronado.
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Fuzzy20:43:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Dan, how and when will EOS get us to Ken’s San Diego party? I’m ready to book my room at the del Coronado.
Wait for bitcoin above 20k is my best guess
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nutela20:43:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Yes provable randomness is a thing
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Fuzzy20:43:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I suspect dan will arrive wearing a jetpack
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Fuzzy20:44:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Yes provable fair randomness is a thing
Hard to say u can do it in selecting nodes
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Fuzzy20:44:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I never said randomness doesnt exist. Im saying that randomness is not randomness if it can be gamed
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nutela20:45:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Hard to say u can do it in selecting nodes
StackExchange, everyone can provide a randomnumber, they get hashed until all are in, than you take the xor hash of that IIRC
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nutela20:45:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
I never said randomness doesnt exist. Im saying that randomness is not randomness if it can be gamed
I'm talking about provably fair randomness, you can look it up.
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Fuzzy20:45:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
StackExchange, everyone can provide a randomnumber, they get hashed until all are in, than you take the xor hash of that IIRC
Stack exchange has no economic incentives
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Fuzzy20:45:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
For block production
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nutela20:46:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Not yet...
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Fuzzy20:46:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Not yet...
Now u got my message :)
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com20:46:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Hmm why would you be skeptical of detox?
We already have an organ specialized in detoxification (the liver) which filters our blood and breaks down dangerous molecules into less harmful intermediary molecules that can be flushed down through urine. That's the only reason we urinate actually
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Fuzzy20:46:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Im so glad eos community members actually discuss this stuff
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nutela20:47:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Now u got my message :)
focus on the randomness.. does it get fuzzy yet?
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Fuzzy20:47:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Most places in crypto its all "when moon?"
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okayplanet | Patreos20:47:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Dan, how and when will EOS get us to Ken’s San Diego party? I’m ready to book my room at the del Coronado.
I heard all attendants have to be vaccinated
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Christian Schramm20:47:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
People are just talking past each other and no one is interested in considering research and contrary evidence
Please Dan. You need to read into the trophoblastic Thesis of Cancer
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nutela20:48:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheSchrammHIT
Please Dan. You need to read into the trophoblastic Thesis of Cancer
I'd much rather he focus on implementing fair voting for example..
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Katie Roman20:48:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
𧑠you always inspire me to keep down this road
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Fuzzy20:48:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
summerskin
𧑠you always inspire me to keep down this road
I try to keep inspiring myself too π
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DM20:49:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Autism is a symptom of inflammation. Autism is reversible through detoxification. What increases toxicity and inflammation in the body?
Nonsense.
Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder. It is not reversible and not inflammation related.
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nutela20:49:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Nonsense.
Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder. It is not reversible and not inflammation related.
Of course it's reverseable you are one bad doc
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DM20:50:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Of course it's reverseable you are one bad doc. Maybe you should watch some documentaries of real patients.
I am not going to bother with you mate. You are not worth it. Do your research. It can be treated by behavioural methods not reversed.
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nutela20:50:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
I am not going to bother with you mate. You are not worth it. Do your research. It can be treated by behavioural methods not reversed.
I'm sorry but you are just off the charts ignorant.
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DM20:51:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
I'm sorry but you are just off the charts ignorant. You have no clue what you are talking about.
And you are not just daft but ignorant.
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okayplanet | Patreos20:51:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lol.... this has to be a fake conversation. You both are the same person, right?
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nutela20:52:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
lol.... this has to be a fake conversation. You both are the same person, right?
LOL
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nutela20:52:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
And you are not just daft but ignorant.
No proof, just BS you're peddling.
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HeadiEddie20:53:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
A kid in my neighborhood was treated with all sorts of drugs for 20 years before finding out he never was autistic.
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Fuzzy20:53:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Of course it's reverseable you are one bad doc. Maybe you should watch some documentaries of real patients.
Why does thisbhave to end in attacks? π
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Fuzzy20:53:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Does it help either of u?
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Fuzzy20:53:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
No need to answer out loud. But something worth reminding ourselves
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nutela20:53:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
And you are not just daft but ignorant.
Anyway, brain inflamation is a serious thing, why do you think there's polysorbate80 in vaccines? It takes the aluminum into the kids brains.
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Kram20:53:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheSchrammHIT
Please Dan. You need to read into the trophoblastic Thesis of Cancer
Dr Gonzalez in NY was one that put it to use....
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ20:54:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
A kid in my neighborhood was treated with all sorts of drugs for 20 years before finding out he never was autistic.
why the prescription then?
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DM20:54:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
No proof, just BS you're peddling.
A simple google search will do you some good. You can also check ICD 10 classification as it is free.
You won’t check anyway. Daft soul.
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Fuzzy20:54:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
A simple google search will do you some good. You can also check ICD 10 classification as it is free.
You won’t check anyway. Daft soul.
Meet middle ground. Provide him a link? π
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nutela20:54:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
A simple google search will do you some good. You can also check ICD 10 classification as it is free.
You won’t check anyway. Daft soul.
Lucky I don't care what you think, you have no idea who you are talking to.
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Kram20:54:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Anyway, brain inflamation is a serious thing, why do you think there's polysorbate80 in vaccines? It takes the aluminum into the kids brains, to cross the blood brain barrier.
high amounts of aluminum are found in the brains of people with alzheimers
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Fuzzy20:55:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Lucky I don't care what you think, you have no idea who you are talking to. Just shows who you are.
Nvm. Lets make a boxing ring tg
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Fuzzy20:55:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
π
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Fuzzy20:55:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We can win intellectual arguments best in that ring
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Fuzzy20:55:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
π
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okayplanet | Patreos20:55:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Why does this have to end in attacks? π
Right. The disagreement immediately descended into insult. Far too radical for my taste--unless (as you know) we are talking about the Clintons π€
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nutela20:55:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
π He's pretending to be a MD for God sake...
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HeadiEddie20:55:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
why the prescription then?
I think they said "social anxiety". He went off the meds got vastly better, but probably lots of damage done by years of experimental treatments.
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Fuzzy20:55:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
okayplanet
Right. The disagreement immediately descended into insult. Far too radical for my taste--unless (as you know) we are talking about the Clintons π€
Best way to get humanity to kill itself without ever firing a bullet
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DM20:56:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Anyway, brain inflamation is a serious thing, why do you think there's polysorbate80 in vaccines? It takes the aluminum into the kids brains, to cross the blood brain barrier.
Aluminum in vaccines is used to boost their efficacy and repeated pieces of research have proved this many times.
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Fuzzy20:56:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Teach them the best way to communicate is to hurl insults and take it personally
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Fuzzy20:56:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I think we can all agree we want to protect those we love
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Fuzzy20:56:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So how best do we do that?
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Fuzzy20:56:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Better to find a common ground
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nutela20:56:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Aluminum in vaccines is used to boost their efficacy and repeated pieces of research have proved this many times.
Explain the polysorbate. No it has been proven the aluminum gets recognized separately.
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Fuzzy20:57:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So we know at the very least we agree on an end result
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cc32d920:57:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hi, is anyone from Newdex here? Or may I have any telegram accounts from their staff?
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DM20:57:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Lucky I don't care what you think, you have no idea who you are talking to. Just shows who you are.
You are a nobody mate, an ignorant one at that.
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HeadiEddie20:58:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Teach them the best way to communicate is to hurl insults and take it personally
There are 7 billion people alive, surely it is working.. :)
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nutela20:58:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You are a nobody mate, an ignorant one at that.
All you know is yourself. Case closed. No proof, just you ranting. Explain the polysorbate80.
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DM20:58:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
π He's pretending to be a MD for God sake... Moron.
No need for that. You have clearly been shown to be an ass.
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nutela20:59:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
No need for that. You have clearly been shown to be an ass.
See, no proof. You're just a liar.
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Fuzzy20:59:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Aluminum in vaccines is used to boost their efficacy and repeated pieces of research have proved this many times.
Research has proven alluminum to have neurodegenerative effects too
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Fuzzy21:00:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Can we honestly say there isnt an alternative thats safer and has the same benefits?
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Fuzzy21:00:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
There are 7 billion people alive, surely it is working.. :)
The agenda to decrease population will attack on a spectrum.
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nutela21:00:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Neil Miller showed the aluminum is prob worse than the thimerosal.
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Fuzzy21:01:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
No need for that. You have clearly been shown to be an ass.
You two are killing it π
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DM21:02:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
See, no proof. You're just a liar. Quacks they should call them.
So polysorbate 80 which is used as a gluing agentbin vaccines is your proof that vaccines are dangerous? This is ridiculous. It is used in tiny amounts, not enough to cause harm if produced in a certified lab doing its job properly.
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nutela21:02:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Enough sources: Tennpenny, Humpries, Mercola, Miller.. and a lot more..
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Fuzzy21:02:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
More and more im starting to think a fist fight is how we win this one π
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:02:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
I think they said "social anxiety". He went off the meds and got vastly better, but probably lots of damage done by years of experimental treatments.
did you know the kid before and after the drug treatment? did you notice a change?
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DM21:02:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://icd.who.int/browse10/2010/en#/F50-F59
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nutela21:02:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
So polysorbate 80 which is used as a gluing agentbin vaccines is your proof that vaccines are dangerous? This is ridiculous. It is used in tiny amounts, not enough to cause harm if produced in a certified lab doing its job properly.
The polysorbate80 will take the aluminum into the brain through the blood-brain barrier. That's bad.
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HeadiEddie21:02:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I have not seen him since, but heard through the grapevine.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:03:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
k
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DM21:03:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
https://icd.who.int/browse10/2010/en#/F50-F59
This is a link to ICD 10.
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Belief is the enemy of knowing21:03:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
But seriously, why on earth would you read about vaccines online form some people who are conspiracy theorists and use that info to make your decision. Speak to actual doctors. And not just gp’s, people who have dedicated their lives to infectious disease research.
Lol, your clueless
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HeadiEddie21:03:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
k
Ill try to get a refresh on the details.
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DM21:04:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Research has proven alluminum to have neurodegenerative effects too
The quantities in vaccines are too tiny to be harmful.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:04:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
k. i meant to say before and then during the treatment
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nutela21:04:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
π€¦♂️
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Fuzzy21:04:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
The quantities in vaccines are too tiny to be harmful.
When coupled with the other minute amounts everywhere else?
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Fuzzy21:04:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Think bigger picture
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Fuzzy21:05:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The attack on humanity is many paper cuts
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SID21:05:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Is it safe to put 100% certainty on that then?
No
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Fuzzy21:05:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
99% truths voering up 1% dangerous fictions
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SID21:05:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
99% truths voering up 1% dangerous fictions
That's the case
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Fuzzy21:05:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And in the process making humanity attack one another and force one another to pay the propagandists
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Fuzzy21:06:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ever watch a movie in the theatre?
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Fuzzy21:06:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
U are paying them to give u soft disclosure
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Fuzzy21:06:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
On dark projects
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DM21:06:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
The polysorbate80 will take the aluminum into the brain through the blood-brain barrier. That's bad.
It is an emulsifying agent and helps to make the vaccine fat soluble for tissue penetration. Aluminum in vaccines is not of low concentration, harmless.
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Fuzzy21:06:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
While they make u at the same time think its fiction
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nutela21:06:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It makes no sense to actually __inject__ vaccines to my knowledge because of the simple fact it actually __bypasses__ the immune system.
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Fuzzy21:06:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Brilliant evil...
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nutela21:07:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
It is an emulsifying agent and helps to make the vaccine fat soluble for tissue penetration. Aluminum in vaccines is not of low concentration, harmless.
Not true at all, for a little baby it's far too much. It's injected, not swallowed.
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nutela21:07:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If done orally no problem
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DM21:07:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
When coupled with the other minute amounts everywhere else?
So you are now generalising about the other vaccine excipients? So which other one do you want to include next?
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nutela21:07:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But injection is entirely another thing.
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HeadiEddie21:08:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
k. i meant to say before and then during the treatment
I doubt i lived there prior to him being on meds.
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Fuzzy21:08:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
So you are now generalising about the other vaccine excipients? So which other one do you want to include next?
Eh?
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Fuzzy21:08:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Honestly not sure i understand
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nutela21:09:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There's never been a unvaccinated control group for vaccine safety studies.
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Fuzzy21:09:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Have u watched that biatrice golomb vid yet?
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nutela21:09:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Vaccine manufacturers are exempt from litigation.
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Fuzzy21:09:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I dmd u
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nutela21:09:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Have u watched that beatrice golomb vid yet?
I did.
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Fuzzy21:09:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Vaccine manufacturers are exempt from litigation.
Fact
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Alex M - clockwork21:09:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Vaccine manufacturers are exempt from litigation.
not true
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Fuzzy21:09:54 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
not true
Our tax dollars pay for their errors. They have no responsibility
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DM21:09:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
It makes no sense to actually inject vaccines to my knowledge because of the simple fact it actually bypasses the immune system.
Injecting a vaccine makes it by pass the liver’s metabolism not avoid the immune system. It is called the first pass effect mate. Read it up.
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Fuzzy21:10:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Injecting a vaccine makes it by pass the liver’s metabolism not avoid the immune system. It is called the first pass effect mate. Read it up.
Seriously go check out that vid i dmd u
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:10:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Bill Gates and his father are eugenicists. Billy boy said during his ted talk that our “population problem” can be remedied with vaccinations. And in another video Billy boy reveals his father was the head of planned parenthood - a eugenics program.
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DM21:10:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Not true at all, for a little baby it's far too much. It's injected, not swallowed.
Not true. The dose has been checked by phase 2 clinical trials.
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Fuzzy21:10:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
She is a dr who is famous for proving her case on statins
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Fuzzy21:11:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Her case: dont trust the science right now. We need to clean the system
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Fuzzy21:11:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
U guys ever hear of climategate?
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Fuzzy21:12:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Where emails were found showing climate scientists colluding via email to game their own studies?
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nutela21:12:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Awakening0
π
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DM21:12:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Honestly not sure i understand
You are trying to argue that a combination of Aluminum ( which has been disproved as a toxic agent in vaccines) and other chemicals are responsible for vaccines being bad and I was asking what other agents you were referring to.
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M21:13:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
Where did you get this information from? It's not something I've come across. I also tend to be skeptical of the word "detoxification" in general, so if you clarify what you mean by that word specifically that would help
Kerrick Rivera has documented over 200 reversals of autism via the use of protocols eliminating parasites and other pathogens. She is vilified because a core component to her protocols is the use of chlorine dioxide a substance similar to ozone and on FDA gras list as being a poisonous bleach harming kids.
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Fuzzy21:13:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You are trying to argue that a combination of Aluminum ( which has been disproved as a toxic agent in vaccines) and other chemicals are responsible for vaccines being bad and I was asking what other agents you were referring to.
No im not
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Fuzzy21:13:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But u could have asked before assuming that
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Fuzzy21:13:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Then attacking me π
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nutela21:13:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You are trying to argue that a combination of Aluminum ( which has been disproved as a toxic agent in vaccines) and other chemicals are responsible for vaccines being bad and I was asking what other agents you were referring to.
Studies are manufactured, get it? The vaccines sure did some damage π
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Fuzzy21:13:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Studies are manufactured, get it? The vaccines sure did some damage π
Bingo
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:13:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
U guys ever hear of climategate?
Sure, check potholer54 video on YouTube about it (youtu dot be/7nnVQ2fROOg)
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nutela21:14:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eosds
Everything EOS: REX is Almost Here, Asset-Backed Stablecoins on Mainnet, and a Major LiquidApps Update! (April 20, 2019) https://youtu.be/MqNkzcoqkzs
Another one? Cool!
DB
DJ Blockchain21:14:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Don’t get your vaccines from China
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Fuzzy21:14:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
Sure, check potholer54 video on YouTube about it (youtu dot be/7nnVQ2fROOg)
Easy link pm?
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:14:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Where emails were found showing "climate scientists" colluding via email to game their own studies?
for what reason? to continue their funding from government?
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Fuzzy21:14:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tooLegitCrypto
Don’t get your vaccines from China
Naw im sure its safe
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Fuzzy21:14:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They sell plastic rice thats totally safe too
DB
DJ Blockchain21:14:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol
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Fin21:15:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Eos on Trezor ? or any good wallet suggest pls?
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DM21:15:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Studies are manufactured, get it? The vaccines sure did some damage π
That is a fallacy. Part of the process of critically appraising a study especially via peer reviewed peers and journals generally rules out fake research.
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nutela21:16:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
That is a fallacy. Part of the process of critically appraising a study especially via peer reviewed peers and journals generally rules out fake research.
Go watch the video Fuzzy which told you to do. It will show how there is an enormous bias and fraud. This is done be insiders.
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:16:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Those hacked emails were largely misinterpreted by those trying to find fault of a conspiracy. Check the video I mentioned above where someone goes through the examples cited by anti-cc proponents
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M21:17:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Nonsense.
Autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder. It is not reversible and not inflammation related.
Dude. You dont even know what a cytokine is and because you don't you are wholly unqualified to comment any longer on the subject. When you can provide evidence that vaccines dont work via the induction of proinflammatory cytokines and that those same cytokines aren't at the root of neuroinflammation aka microglial activation get back to me because I can post no less than 50 studies showing a connection between the very cytokines produced by vaccines and the neuro inflammatory problem of ramified microglia.
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nutela21:18:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
That is a fallacy. Part of the process of critically appraising a study especially via peer reviewed peers and journals generally rules out fake research.
Like people will make sure you'll lose your license if you speak out publicly against vaccines. Researchers lose their funding etc.
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Fuzzy21:18:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Go watch the video Fuzzy which told you to do. It will show how there is an enormous bias and fraud. This is done be insiders. Happens all the time. No need to be skeptical about.
Asked
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nutela21:18:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Dude. You dont even know what a cytokine is and because you don't you are wholly unqualified to comment any longer on the subject. When you can provide evidence that vaccines dont work via the induction of proinflammatory cytokines and that those same cytokines aren't at the root of neuroinflammation aka microglial activation get back to me because I can post no less than 50 studies showing a connection between the very cytokines produced by vaccines and the neuro inflammatory problem of ramified microglia.
Bingo π
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Fuzzy21:18:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I didnt tellπ
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nutela21:19:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
I didnt tellπ
OK but he is ignoring stuff which is obvious, six minutes in and I was wow.. that bad? π
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:19:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Dude. You dont even know what a cytokine is and because you don't you are wholly unqualified to comment any longer on the subject. When you can provide evidence that vaccines dont work via the induction of proinflammatory cytokines and that those same cytokines aren't at the root of neuroinflammation aka microglial activation get back to me because I can post no less than 50 studies showing a connection between the very cytokines produced by vaccines and the neuro inflammatory problem of ramified microglia.
50 publications sounds impressive, where can I find them?
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M21:19:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Inflammatory Disease Epidemic: The Convergence Point of EMF, GMOs, and Vaccines. | Kinsei
http://kinseimindbody.com/inflammatory-disease-epidemic-the-convergence-point-of-emf-gmos-and-vaccines/
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hadrian21:20:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ryang521
I had read a bit about using the scatter wallet but wasn’t able to figure out how to generate new keys and everything (i have never created an eos account before)
Did you get any help for this? Get eos public keys from your ledger by connecting the device, porn scatter desktop, click add keys and choose the option for hardware wallet. From binance you can use https://eos-account-creator.com/ to create an account with the key(s) from your ledger. If you want a different active and owner key you could use, for example, index 0 for active and index 1 for owner when you obtain your ledger's keys using Scatter. If anything is unclear, just ask.
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Fuzzy21:20:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
OK but he is ignoring stuff which is obvious, six minutes in and I was wow.. that bad? π
Its definitely worth it
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M21:20:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Microglial activation autism - PubMed - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Microglial+activation+autism
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M21:20:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There are 86 for you
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nutela21:20:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
There are 86 for you
π Truth hurts...
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Christian Schramm21:21:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Kram
Dr Gonzalez in NY was one that put it to use....
π
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DM21:21:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Go watch the video Fuzzy which told you to do. It will show how there is an enormous bias and fraud. This is done be insiders. Happens all the time. No need to be skeptical about.
I have seen that video many times and anti vaxxers frequently mention it.
Objectively, objective research via systematic reviews, meta analysis, and observational analytical studies done by reputable clinical research bodies, published in peer reviewed journals and backed by global health organisations like the WHO tell us that vaccines are doing a lot of good.
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nutela21:21:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
I have seen that video many times and anti vaxxers frequently mention it.
Objectively, research via systematic reviews, meta analysis, and observational analytical studies done by reputable clinical research bodies, published in peer reviewed journals and backed by global health organisations like the WHO tell us that vaccines are doing a lot of good.
Than I don't have anything to say to you anymore.
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DJ Blockchain21:22:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I think everyone can admit the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of vaccines
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Steve Smith21:22:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
how? how does it prevents domestic violence? how does it prevents theft? It mostly punishes after the fact
It removes perpetrators from society, so they cannot harm the next would-be-victim
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DM21:22:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Dude. You dont even know what a cytokine is and because you don't you are wholly unqualified to comment any longer on the subject. When you can provide evidence that vaccines dont work via the induction of proinflammatory cytokines and that those same cytokines aren't at the root of neuroinflammation aka microglial activation get back to me because I can post no less than 50 studies showing a connection between the very cytokines produced by vaccines and the neuro inflammatory problem of ramified microglia.
You are rambling.
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DM21:23:08 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Than I don't have anything to say to you anymore.
Don’t.
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M21:23:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
I have seen that video many times and anti vaxxers frequently mention it.
Objectively, research via systematic reviews, meta analysis, and observational analytical studies done by reputable clinical research bodies, published in peer reviewed journals and backed by global health organisations like the WHO tell us that vaccines are doing a lot of good.
Yeah, that's all completely unbiased research unaffected by big pharma
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nutela21:23:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Yeah, that's all completely unbiased research unaffected by big pharma
Others will do it for me π
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:24:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
I have seen that video many times and anti vaxxers frequently mention it.
Objectively, research via systematic reviews, meta analysis, and observational analytical studies done by reputable clinical research bodies, published in peer reviewed journals and backed by global health organisations like the WHO tell us that vaccines are doing a lot of good.
π
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nutela21:24:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Someone once said: "You have to be a special kind of stupid." But hey that's how indoctrination works.
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DJ Blockchain21:25:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Some of us go to the beach and worry about government putting secret bacteria in the water that gives people cancer to control the population. Others go to the beach and enjoy the warm breeze and the sound of the surf.
TF
T F21:25:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://medium.com/loom-network/loom-network-roadmap-2019-5183ce02267
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T F21:25:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
boom
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:25:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tooLegitCrypto
Some of us go to the beach and worry about government putting secret bacteria in the water that gives people cancer to control the population. Others go to the beach and enjoy the warm breeze and the sound of the surf.
and they both can be correct
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:26:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
From a quick look at the Kinsei source I can already tell it's not a very high quality source. Some references are missing, and it seems to be picking individual data to construct a narrative rather than looking at a meta analysis of data which is how I would approach the topic
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Alex M - clockwork21:26:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tooLegitCrypto
Some of us go to the beach and worry about government putting secret bacteria in the water that gives people cancer to control the population. Others go to the beach and enjoy the warm breeze and the sound of the surf.
Surely the water company would be easier?
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M21:26:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You are rambling.
I'm sorry you're too dumb to comprehend big words
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nutela21:27:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Too bad they don't teach logic at medical school.
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simon case (EOSphere) π¦πΊ21:27:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’m prepared. I’d rather speak my understanding of truth than silently let lies and deception go unchallenged
π
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DM21:28:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Microglial activation autism - PubMed - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Microglial+activation+autism
These are animal tests or clinical hypotheses not based on any proper study.
Please show me a systematic review meta analysis supported by any of the major clinical databases like cochrane or global clinical agencies supporting an inflammatory base for autism.
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:28:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
These are animal tests or clinical hypotheses not based on any proper study.
Please show me a systematic review meta analysis supported by any of the major clinical databases like cochrane or global clinical agencies supporting an inflammatory base for autism.
The problem is they would just argue those "global clinical agencies" are part of some big pharma conspiracy
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DM21:29:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Someone once said: "You have to be a special kind of stupid." But hey that's how indoctrination works.
You are simply ignorant mate. That is all. I think you are not bad otherwise.
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nutela21:29:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
The problem is they would just argue those "global clinical agencies" are part of some big pharma conspiracy
Don't we use rats for study toxicity?
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M21:29:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
From a quick look at the Kinsei source I can already tell it's not a very high quality source. Some references are missing, and it seems to be picking individual data to construct a narrative rather than looking at a meta analysis of data which is how I would approach the topic
Oh, because it's not from the government. The science is clear if you follow through. Vaccines are proinflammatory agents which promote the same cytokines which drive microglial activation and autoimmunity. The author of kinsei just so happened to be warning the world 5 years ago about the dangerous effects of roundup before the mainstream caught on. You ought pay attention to what this visionary is trying to reveal to you.
AM
Alex M - clockwork21:29:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Microglial activation autism - PubMed - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Microglial+activation+autism
here's a good one from YOUR link: "CONCLUSIONS:
Our study implies that a preprocessed influenza vaccination prevents maternal bacterial infection from causing neocortical lamination impairments and autism-related behaviors in offspring"
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Alex M - clockwork21:29:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
reading helps :)
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nutela21:30:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You are simply ignorant mate. That is all. I think you are not bad otherwise.
It's so laughable what you are saying. You can read on Steem what I wrote on vaccines. I don't care. You have something to lose, I don't. I get it. No problems here.
SC
simon case (EOSphere) π¦πΊ21:31:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I hope not. Because correlation is not causation
+1
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DM21:31:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nut3l4
Don't we use rats for study toxicity?
Yes but there are an atomic and metabolic differences that mean that human trials need to be done in order to progress with clinical trials.
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M21:31:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
These are animal tests or clinical hypotheses not based on any proper study.
Please show me a systematic review meta analysis supported by any of the major clinical databases like cochrane or global clinical agencies supporting an inflammatory base for autism.
Those are not ALL animals but regardless the vaccines work via the induction of the very cytokines known to drive autoimmunity. That is beyond dispute. It's also beyond dispute that those same cytokines are found elevated in autistics and correlate with the severity of symptoms.
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nutela21:31:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Yes but there are an atomic and metabolic differences that mean that human trials need to be done in order to progress with clinical trials.
Yes, they don't have telomeres for example.
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:31:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Oh, because it's not from the government. The science is clear if you follow through. Vaccines are proinflammatory agents which promote the same cytokines which drive microglial activation and autoimmunity. The author of kinsei just so happened to be warning the world 5 years ago about the dangerous effects of roundup before the mainstream caught on. You ought pay attention to what this visionary is trying to reveal to you.
You're not wrong about cytokines but there's much more complexity and plasticity in our immune system to be able to conclude things as easily as the author is suggesting
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:32:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Now I bid you all a good night regardless of your beliefs and wish you a pleasant evening :)
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nutela21:32:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Those are not ALL animals but regardless the vaccines work via the induction of the very cytokines known to drive autoimmunity. That is beyond dispute. It's also beyond dispute that those same cytokines are found elevated in autistics and correlate with the severity of symptoms.
I can atest to that, my brother has MS and it helped so much to go a paleo diet according to Dr. Wahls, she has MS too.. Whenever we eat carbs it's inflamation time..
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M21:32:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
here's a good one from YOUR link: "CONCLUSIONS:
Our study implies that a preprocessed influenza vaccination prevents maternal bacterial infection from causing neocortical lamination impairments and autism-related behaviors in offspring"
Yeah, who funded that study. I did a simple search on pubmed. I'm not going to try and spoon feed a retard like yourself more than I have already done.
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DM21:33:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
The problem is they would just argue those "global clinical agencies" are part of some big pharma conspiracy
They will say what they want to want anyway from my experience, there is always an excuse. It would have been comical if not that this is a very serious topic.
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Alex M - clockwork21:33:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Yeah, who funded that study. I did a simple search on pubmed. I'm not going to try and spoon feed a retard like yourself more than I have already done.
one comment and I'm a retard?
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nutela21:33:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
Now I bid you all a good night regardless of your beliefs and wish you a pleasant evening :)
You too! π We should all give it a break but I must admit being injured by doctors who mean good is like the worst thing.
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Alex M - clockwork21:33:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
good arguing
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Alex M - clockwork21:34:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I'm just pointing out that claimign 86 results when many of them claim the opposite of what youre daying is sensationalism and discredits the point youre making
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Alex M - clockwork21:34:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
try and be less defensive next time
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nutela21:34:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
He has been at it since afternoon Alex
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M21:34:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
You're not wrong about cytokines but there's much more complexity and plasticity in our immune system to be able to conclude things as easily as the author is suggesting
Should we be giving proinflammatory agents to anyone without first having an understanding of their current level of inflammation? Anybody that has any understanding of medicine would say that's idiotic but that's exactly how vaccines are applied even though we know inflammation is rampant throughout the population
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nutela21:34:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It's tiresome.. a lot at stake..
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M21:36:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
one comment and I'm a retard?
Sorry. Thought I was responding to other retard
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nutela21:36:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Anyway I wish my research was on the blockchain, I've researched a shit ton to be sure. And now all you can do is argue. Pretty dumb actually.
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Belief is the enemy of knowing21:37:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tooLegitCrypto
I think everyone can admit the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of vaccines
Your photo says it all, “clueless”
Some people call that the fluoride stare.
This is not an insult. Awakening is a beautiful thing brother.
Belief is the enemy of knowing.
Start with your breath. Drink structured water, and look inside. All the answers are within you.
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Tequila21:38:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What’s up anti vaxers
FF
Frank Furter21:38:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cloakcoin_fast_proven_private
Dude. You dont even know what a cytokine is and because you don't you are wholly unqualified to comment any longer on the subject. When you can provide evidence that vaccines dont work via the induction of proinflammatory cytokines and that those same cytokines aren't at the root of neuroinflammation aka microglial activation get back to me because I can post no less than 50 studies showing a connection between the very cytokines produced by vaccines and the neuro inflammatory problem of ramified microglia.
You are probably arguing with a middle-schooler
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Tequila21:38:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Still building some roads with your private money
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nutela21:39:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Time for some tequila I guess.
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DJ Blockchain21:39:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
KungFuKeto
Your photo says it all, “clueless”
Some people call that the fluoride stare.
This is not an insult. Awakening is a beautiful thing brother.
Belief is the enemy of knowing.
Start with your breath. Drink structured water, and look inside. All the answers are within you.
Sorry I was at a rave.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:39:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i’m not anti vax, i’m anti evil, and evil people are in positions of power
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Alex M - clockwork21:39:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tooLegitCrypto
Sorry I was at a rave.
lol
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nutela21:40:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
lol
π―
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nutela21:40:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I was expecting retaliations but...
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Rick Sanchez | http://tutoreos.com21:40:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
KungFuKeto
Your photo says it all, “clueless”
Some people call that the fluoride stare.
This is not an insult. Awakening is a beautiful thing brother.
Belief is the enemy of knowing.
Start with your breath. Drink structured water, and look inside. All the answers are within you.
Do you have some good scientific resources I can read about structured water?
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:41:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ppl blame government, but government is made up of people. and some ppl are good, and some are evil. that’s the way it is, and will always be
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Tequila21:42:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
KungFuKeto
Lol, your clueless
lol. I love crypto
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DJ Blockchain21:42:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Wife, two dogs, two little kids. I won’t apologize for living a little. I rave once or twice a year and it is like hitting the reset button. Great for mental health.
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DJ Blockchain21:43:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
High recommend it
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nsjames | Scatter21:43:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dox your MDs or go back to talking about crypto.
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DJ Blockchain21:43:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol
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Alex M - clockwork21:43:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Dox your MDs or go back to talking about crypto.
they should dox their MEngs then
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Alex M - clockwork21:44:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
dont see why we must consider crypto "easy"
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EOSmastering21:44:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
ppl blame government, but government is made up of people. and some ppl are good, and some are evil. that’s the way it is, and will always be
its made up by people who threaten other people with a gun..thats not normal
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EOSmastering21:44:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
and def not the way it should be
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:45:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
government isn’t a being.
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nutela21:45:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tooLegitCrypto
Wife, two dogs, two little kids. I won’t apologize for living a little. I rave once or twice a year and it is like hitting the reset button. Great for mental health.
No need to apologize.
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EOSmastering21:45:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
its people who like to rule and threaten people with a gun
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nsjames | Scatter21:46:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
EOSmastering
its people who like to rule and threaten people with a gun
Canadian government wants to apologize
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EOSmastering21:46:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
perfect ponzi scheme though. Lasts a long time
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EOSmastering21:46:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
resets..then starts over agan
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Stella π€‘ pixEOS.io π eoswriter.io21:46:35 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/pjJArLrBqVI
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Frank Furter21:47:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Dox your MDs or go back to talking about crypto.
When marketplace?
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:47:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
EOSmastering
its people who like to rule and threaten people with a gun
yes, stefan molyneux talks a lot about government force. Tyranny
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Belief is the enemy of knowing21:47:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tutoreos
Do you have some good scientific resources I can read about structured water?
https://www.structuredwaterunit.com/articles/structuredwater/dr-gerald-pollack-and-structured-water-science
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Tequila21:48:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Trust nobody, except people who know the least about the subject matter in question
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Tequila21:48:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Anyone with knowledge of it must be corrupted by the government
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Coy Sither21:48:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@Sither2995, please, press the button below within the time amount specified, otherwise you will be kicked. Thank you! (60 sec)
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HeadiEddie21:48:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
To the tech experts here. Why does this site, and only this site for years, constantly buffer? Crap hosting? https://vimeo.com/43220139
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HeadiEddie21:49:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Conspiracy?
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Belief is the enemy of knowing21:49:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
Trust nobody, except people who know the least about the subject matter in question
Believe a quarter of what you hear, half of what you see, and everything I say:
Vaccines are whack:)
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Frank Furter21:51:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Dox your MDs or go back to talking about crypto.
Is scatter mobile awaiting some software development for B1?
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Frank Furter21:51:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Is scatter mobile awaiting some software development for B1?
From B1?
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:51:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
vaccines can be whack. they are also proven to be effective.
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hadrian21:52:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/_BjyIV2DO-M
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nsjames | Scatter21:53:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Frank Furter
Is scatter mobile awaiting some software development for B1?
No
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:55:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
food works. food can also be naturally and unknowingly poisonous. and foods can be poisoned by intent. those are 3 angles
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:55:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
same applies to vaccines
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Alex M - clockwork21:56:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
food works. food can also be naturally and unknowingly poisonous. and foods can be poisoned by intent. those are 3 angles
also..varying quantities of varying types of foods have varying effects
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Alex M - clockwork21:56:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
who knew :)
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EOSmastering21:57:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
yes, stefan molyneux talks a lot about government force. Tyranny
He makes sense sometimes :)
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:58:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i like it
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ21:59:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
also..varying quantities of varying types of foods have varying effects
your saying vaccines affect some people differently than others. yes, this is admitted.
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Alex M - clockwork21:59:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nah
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Alex M - clockwork21:59:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i was talking about food
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:01:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
i was talking about food
lol ok. same applies. some ppl can eat peanut butter, some can’t with varying degree.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:02:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
and some vaccines perhaps shouldn’t be mixed.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:04:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
given all other things going on in the world, i’m leaning toward evil intent when it comes to vaccines
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HeadiEddie22:04:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I am rather perplexed that some shadow gov/illuminati/nwo/matrix agents are not jumping at the chance to send me and all of us for that matter to a deserted isle. Should I just have more patience while the shadow chess pieces are laid?
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Tequila22:04:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@daniellarimer please give us something else to talk about. Where’s that apple wallet code
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Tequila22:05:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I’m planning to make a vaccine tracking app using it ;)
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:05:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
@daniellarimer please give us something else to talk about. Where’s that apple wallet code
it’s ok to be scared
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HeadiEddie22:06:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Elf town is a good topic.
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Infmsjce22:06:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Oh lord vaccines
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Infmsjce22:06:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I havnt had one in 14 years
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Alex M - clockwork22:07:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
I’m planning to make a vaccine tracking app using it ;)
lol
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Infmsjce22:07:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lmao
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Belief is the enemy of knowing22:07:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
vaccines can be whack. they are also proven to be effective.
Same with chemotherapy
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:07:18 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
I am rather perplexed that some shadow gov/illuminati/nwo/matrix agents are not jumping at the chance to send me, and all of us for that matter, to a deserted isle (de mona*). Should I just have more patience while the shadow chess pieces are laid?
ikr.
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Infmsjce22:07:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What you guys think of 5g
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:08:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
KungFuKeto
Same with chemotherapy
totally
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HeadiEddie22:08:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
ikr.
I dont know that one. ? ... https://youtu.be/BH8siiFF-WQ
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Fuzzy22:09:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
I have seen that video many times and anti vaxxers frequently mention it.
Objectively, research via systematic reviews, meta analysis, and observational analytical studies done by reputable clinical research bodies, published in peer reviewed journals and backed by global health organisations like the WHO tell us that vaccines are doing a lot of good.
Interesting that u are not debating her points
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:09:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Mr_H4xor
What you guys think of 5g
it’s concerning. some countries/cities have banned it until it’s tested.
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Fuzzy22:09:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Might be worth it to go that route
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Infmsjce22:09:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Damn
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Infmsjce22:10:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Problem is 5g towers will have to be very close to each other. It has low frequency so it has to be close. Also that means more rads. And much easyer to track people
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Infmsjce22:11:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I ment its got higher frequency
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Fuzzy22:12:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Mr_H4xor
I ment its got higher frequency
Ice
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Fuzzy22:12:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Was about to correct u π
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HeadiEddie22:12:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
ikr.
Never mind, i goggled it.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:12:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Mr_H4xor
I ment its got higher frequency
that’s what i read. some said it’s been tested and found to be harmful.
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Infmsjce22:12:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Yes
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Infmsjce22:12:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It killed thousends of birds
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Infmsjce22:12:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
First day ot wa launched
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:12:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
Never mind, i goggled it.
lol. all these acronyms are hard to keep up with.
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Infmsjce22:12:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
L.ao
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Infmsjce22:12:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
π
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HeadiEddie22:13:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Mr_H4xor
It killed thousends of birds
Gotta find a market for robo birds.
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Infmsjce22:13:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Yes
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Infmsjce22:13:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Robo currency
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Fuzzy22:14:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://www.syti.net/GB/SilentWeaponsGB.html
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:15:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
well take a look at this. are you guys familiar with the four horsemen of the apocalypse? starvation, war, airborne disease, ( i forget the fourth one). Take a look at denver colorado airport:
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Fuzzy22:16:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
"It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent weapons) on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery and genocide.
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public."
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Fuzzy22:16:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
https://www.syti.net/GB/SilentWeaponsGB.html
"It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent weapons) on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery and genocide.
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public."
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Fuzzy22:16:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Test
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Fuzzy22:17:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Odd...
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Infmsjce22:17:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hmm
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Fuzzy22:17:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
"It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation of a society, i.e., the engineering of social automation systems (silent weapons) on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e., slavery and genocide."
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Fuzzy22:17:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
"This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public."
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Fuzzy22:17:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hmmm
...
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Infmsjce22:17:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
Very interessting
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Fuzzy22:17:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Seems to have probs with this paragraph
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buzz22:18:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I don't have the examples at the top of my head.
like radar working with imaginary numbers.
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Fuzzy22:18:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
"This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the pub"
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Fuzzy22:18:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Anyone see me posting this
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Fuzzy22:18:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public.
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Fuzzy22:18:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And it disappearing?
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Infmsjce22:18:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@BostonRiver are you into satalite reconnesonse
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Fuzzy22:18:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public.
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Fuzzy22:19:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There we go. Ill just post a picture of the paragraph that keeps being pulled
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:19:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
this chat is acting whacky
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hadrian22:19:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Anyone see me posting this
Hang on, I'll fetch it - the bot deleted stuff...
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Fuzzy22:19:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Odd that this para would just disappear 10x
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Tequila22:20:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What if I told you that none of this matters
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Fuzzy22:20:04 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Well 4x actually
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DM22:20:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Interesting that u are not debating her points
There are stories both ways; research and facts remain unchanged.
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Fuzzy22:20:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hadrianBTS
Hang on, I'll fetch it - the bot deleted stuff...
Thnx hadrian
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Fuzzy22:20:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
There are stories both ways; proper research and facts remain unchanged.
The fact is that science is bought and paid for by biased parties. To not acknowledge this gets us no closer to truth.
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Fuzzy22:21:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Silent weapons for quiet wars. Check that document out
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HeadiEddie22:21:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
What if I told you that none of this matters
I'd say it is probably time you gave the linkin park a rest
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Fuzzy22:21:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And tell me there are not people throughout history who have outwardly used positions of power for this agenda
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Fuzzy22:21:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And u will be lieing
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hadrian22:22:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Anyone see me posting this
Here is what you were posting when the bot kept deleting it:
Fuzzy:
"This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person or group of persons in a position of great power and without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodologies for economic conquest - it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the public."
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Fuzzy22:22:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
That is my point
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Fuzzy22:22:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Nothing more or less
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DM22:22:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
The fact is that science is bought and paid for by biased parties. To not acknowledge this gets us no closer to truth.
Which is why globally respected research institutions are left to guide and acknowledge objective high quality research.
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Fuzzy22:23:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Which is why globally respected research institutions are left to guide and acknowledge objective high quality research.
U mean like obama was globally respected and given the nobel peace prize?
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Fuzzy22:23:34 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I dont respect sell outs
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Fuzzy22:23:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Especially in science
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Fuzzy22:23:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Remember the whiteblock report that said eos isnt a blockchain?
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Fuzzy22:24:05 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
That should hit closer to home
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:24:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Mr_H4xor
Very interessting
i think chaos must be risen in order for a new birth, a new world, can emerge. this is order out from chaos. only after much suffering can much quality arise
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Fuzzy22:24:14 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It was funded by who?
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Fuzzy22:24:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It was funded by parties associated with ethereum
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marf22:24:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
george bush hates black people
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Fuzzy22:24:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Just a hint
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DM22:24:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
U mean like obama was globally respected and given the nobel peace prize?
Different context mate. There are high level research projects that can tell us objectively about the clinical research question.
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buzz22:24:50 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
death is a disease that can be cured
Fear of death is a disease, it prevents you from living truly.
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Fuzzy22:24:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Different context mate. There are high level research projects that can tell us objectively about the clinical research question.
Not different at all
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Fuzzy22:25:00 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
U used the words respected globally
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DM22:25:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Not different at all
Your opinion then.
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Fuzzy22:25:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Im questioning the measure by which u gauge respect is all
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Fuzzy22:25:36 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I would say its a fair and respectful question
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DM22:26:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
U used the words respected globally
No specific reason was given for Obama’s Nobel award. I don’t understand the rationale for it. It was not research based.
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Fuzzy22:26:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Regardless i still asked a very simple thing
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Fuzzy22:26:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Gor u to pick out actual points she makes that are incorrect
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:26:28 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
marf1n
george bush hates black people
Bill Gates and his father does. (Planned parenthood, and sterilizing black women in Africa with “vaccines”).
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Fuzzy22:26:33 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And give facts to disprove her points
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Fuzzy22:26:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Up to this point you have not done anything in this regard
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Fuzzy22:26:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Not my choice but i asked u to do this for a reason
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:27:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
buzz
Fear of death is a disease, it prevents you from living truly.
It also keeps people alive. There’s a duality
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Fuzzy22:27:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
As much so maybe u could teach me something as to disprove u
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Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:27:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
Bill Gates and his father does. (Planned parenthood, and sterilizing black women in Africa with “vaccines”).
What the hell conversation did I just walk into?
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Fuzzy22:27:41 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Which i personally believe shoupd be the point of all this
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:28:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
What the hell conversation did I just walk into?
Ask me for evidence, reason, logic.
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Fuzzy22:28:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Im giving documentation to read and experts who are widely known to be experts
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DM22:28:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Regardless i still asked a very simple thing
You have my answer. You read people quoting respected databases earlier on; it starts from there and eventually gets confirmed by a government body.
JP
Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:28:25 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
Ask me for evidence, reason, logic.
It must be 4/20
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Fuzzy22:28:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
U are saying u are a dr and pointing to generalized statements without links
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Alex M - clockwork22:28:35 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
It must be 4/20
This
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Fuzzy22:28:58 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Not putting u down...simply saying leveraging ur knowledge and proof wilp get u further if ur goal is to convince me
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HeadiEddie22:29:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It explains everything.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:29:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
It must be 4/20
You’re high and you don’t even know it. You’ve reached the higher level
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Fuzzy22:29:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And maybe acknowledging specific points in the proof provided
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Fuzzy22:29:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Instead of saying uve seen it hundreds of times and then ignoring that u could give us examples
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Fuzzy22:30:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Im literally telling u the easiest way to convince me
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:30:19 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
clockworkgr
This
No, this:
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Fuzzy22:30:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
You’re high and you don’t even know it. You’ve reached the higher level
Boom.
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:31:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol
JP
Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:32:12 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
You’re high and you don’t even know it. You’ve reached the higher level
Yeah no point in having regular conversations with people who have never heard of crypto
JP
Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:32:23 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Just telegram now
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Fuzzy22:32:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
Yeah no point in having regular conversations with people who have never heard of crypto
To add them to our army? ☺️
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RA22:32:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Say yes if you like to smell some ass with fart smell and taste
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Fuzzy22:32:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The hardest sell was my dad ironically
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:32:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
Yeah no point in having regular conversations with people who have never heard of crypto
I have no idea what you’re talking about
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RA22:33:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If yes, you are a true seller
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Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:34:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
To add them to our army? ☺️
Ha
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Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:35:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I created one of the most popular DApps on Ethereum last year. Try explaining that to someone.
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buzz22:36:02 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
jbucksteiner
The majority is vax. Done.
The majority is also obese, what is your point?
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Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:36:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I’m done with Ethereum, moving over to Cosmos
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Fuzzy22:36:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
I created one of the most popular DApps on Ethereum last year. Try explaining that to someone.
U dont have t
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Fuzzy22:36:55 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
U just let the dapp do it
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Fuzzy22:36:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
;)
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Fuzzy22:37:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
I’m done with Ethereum, moving over to Cosmos
Cosmos is most likely the other tech that is worthwhile next to dpos
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Fuzzy22:37:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Inspired by dpos in fact it would seem
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HeadiEddie22:37:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
Hard not to have a great day while remembering this one.. "All of a sudden, the libertarians who are arguing for the status-quo property-rights system start sounding like central planning statists who know better how to run the economy."
https://youtu.be/x1fAKIMrB70
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DM22:37:44 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
U are saying u are a dr and pointing to generalized statements without links
Are you asking for links to prove that vaccines work? There are many research papers on many vaccines. I will look for a relevant one from a respectable global database called cochrane and paste the link here just as an example. There are others like pubmed, medline etc.
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Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:37:48 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
U dont have t
I could spin up a proof of stake chain using Cosmos SDK/Tendermint in a day
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Fuzzy22:38:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
Are you asking for links to prove that vaccines work? There are many research papers on many vaccines. I will look for a relevant one from a respectable global database called cochrane and paste the link here just as an example. There are others like pubmed, medline etc.
Its really simple here. Stop assuming what im asking for and read what i say literally
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Fuzzy22:38:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Its literally there
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Fuzzy22:38:31 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Go listen to her points and then prove them wrong
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:38:52 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
I created one of the most popular DApps on Ethereum last year. Try explaining that to someone.
Tell us more about yourself
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Fuzzy22:38:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Her points which u should know after seeing hundreds of times...are bot specif8cally about vaccines
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Fuzzy22:39:27 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But are proof that science is gamed by big players with agendas and needed funding
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Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge22:39:29 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
Tell us more about yourself
Probably easier to Google me ha
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ22:39:47 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JosephPitluck
Probably easier to Google me ha
Come on I can’t get enough. MOAR
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Fuzzy22:39:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
To claim she is incorrect u better have points to back it up as she certainly does
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DM22:40:16 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/content?templateType=abstract&urlTitle=/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD004407.pub3&doi=10.1002/14651858.CD004407.pub3&type=cdsr&contentLanguage=
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Fuzzy22:40:21 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Id love to have her proven wrong as its pretty damn scary if she is right
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Fuzzy22:40:56 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/content?templateType=abstract&urlTitle=/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD004407.pub3&doi=10.1002/14651858.CD004407.pub3&type=cdsr&contentLanguage=
Again u are missing the details of what i have asked and instead working on assumptions
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Fuzzy22:41:06 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Reread what i have said please
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Fuzzy22:41:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
This is not an attack. Simply a request u dont waste both our time
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DM22:41:39 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
Her points which u should know after seeing hundreds of times...are not specifically about vaccines
My point is specifically that vaccines when prepared appropriately are efficacious and save lives. Period.
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Fuzzy22:42:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
My point is specifically that vaccines when prepared and administered appropriately are efficacious and save lives. Period.
My point is u are basing this on the premise that science we have is completely legitimate and not gamed at all by outside interests who make more money from illness than cures
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Fuzzy22:42:42 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The simple fact u ignore this means u are biased and unwilling to recognize that bias which is even more dangerous
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Fuzzy22:43:13 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Im not sure why i have to say this 10k ways
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Fuzzy22:43:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
U are a dr right?
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Fuzzy22:43:40 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So go pick apart her argument and post legitimate counters to her legitimate points
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Fuzzy22:43:51 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Until then we are wasting our time
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Fuzzy22:43:59 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Including yours!
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Fuzzy22:45:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Afk feel free to pm me. Got dinner to attend
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DM22:45:38 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
My point is u are basing this on the premise that science we have is completely legitimate and not gamed at all by outside interests who make more money from illness than cures
You can argue about outside interests and influences but what I am clearly saying is that vaccination has been saving lives since Edward Jenner did his first trial of it.
You can continue looking for smoke and mirrors.
I have to be somewhere so good day.
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Fuzzy22:48:20 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
DM
You can argue about outside interests and influences but what I am clearly saying is that vaccination has been saving lives since Edward Jenner did his first trial of it.
You can continue looking for smoke and mirrors.
I have to be somewhere so good day.
Clearly.
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Fuzzy22:48:24 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
;)
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Fuzzy22:48:37 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Same. Dinner time. Cant miss that
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buzz22:51:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
realtequila
But seriously, why on earth would you read about vaccines online form some people who are conspiracy theorists and use that info to make your decision. Speak to actual doctors. And not just gp’s, people who have dedicated their lives to infectious disease research.
And I wonder why you are afraid of infectious diseases but not of liver cirrhosis.
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James22:54:45 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Can an admin tell me if meet.one wallet is safe to use..
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HeadiEddie23:02:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/h5-0McAzBcE
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Queen A23:03:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Wen 6 dolla
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buzz23:06:43 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
It also keeps people alive. There’s a duality
It doesn’t, you go and panic in a life-threatening situation, I prefer to stay calm and rational.
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Jack (of π)23:15:07 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Have been reading the @daniellarimer only posts for awhile now. I have to say I am inspired that Dan still trys to recreate the world knowing it is so full of people who want it to remain the same, or worse, continue to distort it into something unusable. They seem hell bent on making sure he understands these intentions too. That is perseverance, on both sides.
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Daniel23:16:15 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RollTide
Can an admin tell me if meet.one wallet is safe to use..
I use it since it first came out last year. Never any problems with it
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Jack (of π)23:16:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Can I post in here, or is there some hoops to jump through first?
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Daniel23:17:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
jack_hearts
Can I post in here, or is there some hoops to jump through first?
Why not?
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Jack (of π)23:18:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Well my first message evaporated when sent, so was just asking
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Daniel23:19:17 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
After some time you are in the channel allows you to post links
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Jack (of π)23:19:53 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
No link, just a thought
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Daniel23:20:46 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If it’s not price related ... just go on, no worries
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Emma23:21:22 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
My point is u are basing this on the premise that science we have is completely legitimate and not gamed at all by outside interests who make more money from illness than cures
I think we all are basically saying the same thing. Most people are born without ailments, but when there is a high risk of infection, every preventive measure is explored. These efforts recognize vaccines as one of the preferred preventive measures because they are the most cost-effective health-care intervention and have saved millions of lives. However, when vaccination is chosen, it must always be a rational choice.
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Emma23:21:26 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Because medical procedures have risks, the benefits of a medical procedure must at all times be greater than its detriment for that procedure to be the relevant rational choice.
Some of the relevant factors could be that it is a communicable disease, that the selection of the vaccines is inoculated from the influence of those who directly benefit from the service and that its effectiveness rate is significant.
When these conditions are satisfied, most parents will be happy protect their kids with such vaccines. Conversely, it would be a dereliction of duty for a parent to simply rely on clinical results promoted by the marketing department of a pharmaceutical company whose main prerogative is a healthy profit, not a healthy child.
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Jack (of π)23:21:57 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
danysof
If it’s not price related ... just go on, no worries
Thanks for the answer. Probably better off not, the more I listen, the less I have to say anyway.
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hadrian23:22:09 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
jack_hearts
Can I post in here, or is there some hoops to jump through first?
I think, if you're new, it's because of the '@'. Here's your message which the bot deleted:
"Jack (of π):
Have been reading the @daniellarimer only posts for awhile now. I have to say I am inspired that Dan still trys to recreate the world knowing it is so full of people who want it to remain the same, or worse, continue to distort it into something unusable. They seem hell bent on making sure he understands these intentions too. That is perseverance, on both sides."
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hadrian23:23:01 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
jack_hearts
Thanks for the answer. Probably better off not, the more I listen, the less I have to say anyway.
Oh, I can delete thatπ if you want?
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Luigi23:24:32 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hadrianBTS
Oh, I can delete thatπ if you want?
are you doing the peos airdrop?
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hadrian23:32:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Cryptoanarky
are you doing the peos airdrop?
How do you mean?
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hadrian23:34:11 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Cryptoanarky
are you doing the peos airdrop?
I think the answer is yes
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Stacey23:37:30 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hello π
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TIME GO23:39:49 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
so, what big things at Juneπ€
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Luigi23:40:10 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hadrianBTS
I think the answer is yes
thanks, i just discovered it, is it the first privacy coin on eos? are there other airdrops which require claim?
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Jack (of π)23:47:03 - 20 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hadrianBTS
I think, if you're new, it's because of the '@'. Here's your message which the bot deleted:
"Jack (of π):
Have been reading the @daniellarimer only posts for awhile now. I have to say I am inspired that Dan still trys to recreate the world knowing it is so full of people who want it to remain the same, or worse, continue to distort it into something unusable. They seem hell bent on making sure he understands these intentions too. That is perseverance, on both sides."
Thanks hadrian
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ00:06:20 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
buzz
It doesn’t, you go and panic in a life-threatening situation, I prefer to stay calm and rational.
Fear also deters people from taking dangerous risks. It works both ways.
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The last Viking TV@youtube Youtube00:07:03 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hadrianBTS
I think, if you're new, it's because of the '@'. Here's your message which the bot deleted:
"Jack (of π):
Have been reading the @daniellarimer only posts for awhile now. I have to say I am inspired that Dan still trys to recreate the world knowing it is so full of people who want it to remain the same, or worse, continue to distort it into something unusable. They seem hell bent on making sure he understands these intentions too. That is perseverance, on both sides."
Are you the Adrian from stq ?
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Daniel Larimer00:09:47 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
humans are not there yet to self govern themselves so we still need the government system to store order in this crazy world
And who runs government, aliens?
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simon case (EOSphere) π¦πΊ00:10:34 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Alexspi
humans are not there yet to self govern themselves so we still need the government system to store order in this crazy world
Seriously?!?!
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio00:11:27 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
simoncase
Seriously?!?!
Sigh, yes.
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simon case (EOSphere) π¦πΊ00:12:24 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
Sigh, yes.
π€ͺ
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ00:13:22 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Don’t gang up on the guy. Be his thinking right or wrong at least he’s thinking and learning.
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Zach @ Stub.one00:13:39 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/propelzach/status/1119753893372542977
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Fuzzy00:14:08 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
And who runs government, aliens?
Lizard men from another dimension to be exact.
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Fuzzy00:18:44 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
vaccines can be whack. they are also proven to be effective.
Indeed. Rarely is anything black or white...but the chess masters play us as pawns on a board checkered with black and white.
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Fuzzy00:19:02 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Interesting game... π
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Fuzzy00:19:57 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BostonRiver
food works. food can also be naturally and unknowingly poisonous. and foods can be poisoned by intent. those are 3 angles
F u bro...twinkies went for like 1k each at one point. Has to be good for u.
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HeadiEddie00:20:05 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/DPfHHls50-w
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Fuzzy00:20:10 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They are tasty as hell too
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GoogleDarkπΊπΈ00:20:15 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
SirFuzzalot
F u bro...twinkies went for like 1k each at one point. Has to be good for u.
Haha. Logic
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Fuzzy00:20:27 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
https://youtu.be/DPfHHls50-w
Niice find headi
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Fuzzy00:20:48 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Not as good as a live launch of teslas penis plane but id definitely say a good find
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Luka Percic00:20:57 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
https://youtu.be/DPfHHls50-w
Space causes autism
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Fuzzy00:21:21 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
Space causes autism
Space causes worse than autism bro π
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Fuzzy00:21:59 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Thats where gov aliens are so be careful if u go.
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Luka Percic00:22:13 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
No longitudinal studies on space walks
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Fuzzy00:22:20 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
No longitudinal studies on space walks
π
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Fuzzy00:22:32 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ironically im not sure
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Fuzzy00:22:41 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Now that u have me thinking about it
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Fuzzy00:23:04 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Id say it might be fair to assume the moonlanding is one of the most researched things in history
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Fuzzy00:23:26 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Now that was wayyy before i was born
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Fuzzy00:23:52 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So maybe its considered a longitudinal qualitative study!
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randomdicer00:24:07 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hey guys! Here comes the new update for this week! I introduced some of great Dice games this time. Repost it trough Twitter or other ways you like! plz let me know your feedback.ππ
https://youtu.be/cIY3h3hKaxo
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Fuzzy00:24:42 - 21 Apr 2019 [UTC]
randomragdoll
Hey guys! Here comes the new update for this week! I introduced some of great Dice games this time. Repost it trough Twitter or other ways you like! plz let me know your feedback.ππ
https://youtu.be/cIY3h3hKaxo
Nice dice.
