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M L15:06:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Even given the low levels of absorption of aluminum via ingestion, a baby will get more aluminum from food than vaccines
SJ
Sam J15:06:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@daniellarimer I think this vax convo is doing more damage to EOS than it is good.
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Dima BLCKCHND15:06:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Yes
most people that suport anti-vaxx never will face the anti-vaxx problem, thanks their smart parents
ML
M L15:06:39 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Granted, this may have different affects on the brain
SJ
Sam J15:06:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
From the chem trails I presume 😉
I’m glad you winked. Otherwise I was officially gone lol
BD
Bruise Drone15:06:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
From the chem trails I presume 😉
are you planning on dropping a charles diss song?
TE
Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:07:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
From the chem trails I presume 😉
Dan, do you follow any diet routine? Or just intermittent fasting?
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Ruben15:07:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Enough with Vacs! Let talk EOS!
M
marf15:07:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
From the chem trails I presume 😉
was 9/11 an inside job?
ML
M L15:07:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I think it’s an interesting question
DL
Daniel Larimer15:07:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
@daniellarimer I'm really curious about your opinion. I'm not sure if anyone here already asked you this, but what in your eyes is the most eye opening information for you to be as critical towards vaccinations as you are? What I have found to be eye opening myself is the lectures and research from Suzanne Humphries, very curious about your findings regarding research
I simply look at the risks published by WHO and the bogus placebo.
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Kram15:07:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Smithjohnn
Send me a peer review study
what Dan is telling us is Knowledge is POWER... no matter what field your in or researching, reading..... don't be a sheeple.....
HC
Hustle Crypto15:07:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Let's talk MAS
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ML
M L15:08:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Most people won’t look at both sides of it. I think aluminum is an understudied risk. But I also think that Polio and pneumonia are really bad
HC
Hustle Crypto15:08:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
are you planning on dropping a charles diss song?
Somehow I feel Dan could rap better then vitalik
DL
Daniel Larimer15:08:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Look, the problem is that vaccines have been promoted as cures by movies.
ML
M L15:08:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MMR vaccine, for example, has no aluminum
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Daniel15:08:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
marf1n
was 9/11 an inside job?
😂😂😂
BD
Bruise Drone15:08:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Look, the problem is that vaccines have been promoted as cures by movies.
please please please stop this vaccine talk.
SJ
Sam J15:09:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Look, the problem is that vaccines have been promoted as cures by movies.
No that’s not the problem. We should move on.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:09:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Look, the problem is that vaccines have been promoted as cures by movies.
Hollywood is evil
ML
M L15:09:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
please please please stop this vaccine talk.
Why? Don’t wanna buy cheaper EOS?
DL
Daniel Larimer15:09:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There are some vaccines that might be worth it. Just like some drugs are worth it
K
Kram15:09:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Wof310
It is like when tesla was duking it out w edison and the establishment for a long time tried to convince the public that AC systems were hazardous and potentially deadly, and that everyone should keep dc inefficient systems for power transmission
even today , how we use electricity is all wrong .....
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:09:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
please please please stop this vaccine talk... i‘m all in on eos, and if you dont stop i wont have money to vaccine my children
Why?
Are you the talk police?
lol Just kidding man, but seriously, relax. This is gonna happen.
DL
Daniel Larimer15:09:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But no one would argue all drugs are safe
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:09:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Most people won’t look at both sides of it. I think aluminum is an understudied risk. But I also think that Polio and pneumonia are really bad
Still on the sidelines, we don't see many polio cases now, thanks to vaccination I would say. But I haven't read much about the side effects.
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Dima BLCKCHND15:09:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Look, the problem is that vaccines have been promoted as cures by movies.
looks like Luddites argument
HC
Hustle Crypto15:09:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There might be some vaccines that are bad... 95%+ are great thou
ML
M L15:09:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
There are some vaccines that might be worth it. Just like some drugs are worth it
My point is that it’s different when the decision is the health of your own child, who would do anything for
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Daks15:10:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Look, the problem is that vaccines have been promoted as cures by movies.
They work tho, right? Or you think we shouldn’t vaccinate
BD
Bruise Drone15:10:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
But no one would argue all drugs are safe
how would you know that if you havent tried out all the drugs? 🌚
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RANDOMINATOR15:10:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@daniellarimer Can you tell anything about the upcoming event in DC Armory? Will there be special guests? or someone from the US government?
ML
M L15:10:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I think the flu vaccine is probably bad. For most kids, they should probably wait for hep b
PW
Pink Wojak15:10:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Guys, do you know of any telegram channel where people discuss EOS topics?
DL
Daniel Larimer15:10:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Satoshi_daks
They work tho, right? Or you think we shouldn’t vaccinate
I don’t think it makes sense most of the time.
PW
Pink Wojak15:10:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Asking for a friend
BD
Bruise Drone15:10:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
PinkWojak
Guys, do you know of any telegram channel where people discuss EOS topics?
yes, check out the cardano chat
ML
M L15:10:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But pneumonia, polio, mmr, etc are good, despite the potential for risk
TE
Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:10:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
PinkWojak
Guys, do you know of any telegram channel where people discuss EOS topics?
😂
HC
Hustle Crypto15:10:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
yes, check out the cardano chat
Or eth
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:11:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
There are some vaccines that might be worth it. Just like some drugs are worth it
I smoke weed.
I'd rather eat edibles because I know smoking is harmful to my health but the benefits far outweigh the risks for me right now.
And yes of course vaccines are good and bad. There exists a duality in all things.
ES
Evan Shepard | EOS New York15:11:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
PinkWojak
Guys, do you know of any telegram channel where people discuss EOS topics?
Not a chat channel, but one of my faves lately.
https://t.me/eos_titan_bp_alerts
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Dima BLCKCHND15:11:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I don’t think it makes sense most of the time.
any stat?
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:11:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Satoshi_daks
They work tho, right? Or you think we shouldn’t vaccinate
both
BD
Bruise Drone15:11:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Evan_Shepard
Not a chat channel, but one of my faves lately.
https://t.me/eos_titan_bp_alerts
is this a virus?
ES
Evan Shepard | EOS New York15:11:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
is this a virus?
No.
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:11:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
how would you know that if you havent tried out all the drugs? 🌚
do you even read the counteractions of drugs? there are more counteractions than things a drug can cure lol
DL
Daniel Larimer15:12:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I think group think is more dangerous than vaccines or lack of vaccines
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Daks15:12:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I don’t think it makes sense most of the time.
It’s recommended by medical professionals tho, and we’re seeing evidence of the damage done by antivax movement (outbreaks across the world), I don’t know what the option is
ML
M L15:12:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Satoshi_daks
It’s recommended by medical professionals tho, and we’re seeing evidence of the damage done by antivax movement (outbreaks across the world), I don’t know what the option is
Make better vaccines
SJ
Sam J15:12:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think group think is more dangerous than vaccines or lack of vaccines
Great. Pls. Let’s discuss something else.
D
Daks15:13:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Make better vaccines
Better by who’s definition?
HC
Hustle Crypto15:13:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MacroSam
Great. Pls. Let’s discuss something else.
Your more then welcome to go chat else where
ML
M L15:13:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Some people are concerned about aluminum. That’s fine, make non-aluminum options
ML
M L15:13:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
This was done with thimerserol
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Dima BLCKCHND15:13:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
please please please stop this vaccine talk... i‘m all in on eos, and if you dont stop i wont have money to vaccine my children
+
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:13:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think group think is more dangerous than vaccines or lack of vaccines
I think the belief in authority stems from manipulation of group think.
SJ
Sam J15:13:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We are a week away from another “MonerEOS” on our hands here so unless you are trying to get get out of a contract or something I wish we would move on. @daniellarimer
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:14:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MacroSam
We are a week away from another “MonerEOS” on our hands here so unless you are trying to get out of a contract or something I wish we would move on. @daniellarimer
stop censoring the man.
ML
M L15:14:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MacroSam
We are a week away from another “MonerEOS” on our hands here so unless you are trying to get out of a contract or something I wish we would move on. @daniellarimer
Lol
BD
Bruise Drone15:14:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
do you even read the counteractions of drugs? there are more counteractions than things a drug can cure lol
dan says we shouldnt trust doctors
KR
Katie Roman15:14:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Well all we can hope is everyone has the freedom to follow what they think is best, and that if they do get ill they stick by their convictions. Morality means nothing if people only stick to their morals when convenient.
DL
Daniel Larimer15:14:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
I think the belief in authority stems from manipulation of group think.
I also think it stems from people lacking confidence in their own ability to think
HC
Hustle Crypto15:15:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MacroSam
We are a week away from another “MonerEOS” on our hands here so unless you are trying to get out of a contract or something I wish we would move on. @daniellarimer
Tell me again what his theory on vax has to do with his CTO skill set again..
ML
M L15:15:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Maybe if we get clarity on this it won’t be scary anymore
K
Kenny | eoswriter.io15:15:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MacroSam
We are a week away from another “MonerEOS” on our hands here so unless you are trying to get out of a contract or something I wish we would move on. @daniellarimer
Dan got everyone sweating, maybe you should take a shower 😂
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Subbu15:15:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@daniellarimer what are the plans for weekend, did you watched avengers end game ??
DL
Daniel Larimer15:15:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol. There is a coin for that
ML
M L15:16:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
dan says we shouldnt trust doctors 🌚🌚
You shouldn’t. But you should listen to them
BW
Bart Wyatt15:16:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Yoni4848
Dan, eosio v 1.8 requires consensus upgrade. Right?
No! 😬 It enables a number of consensus upgrades none of which are required
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:16:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
Tell me again what his theory on vax has to do with his CTO skill set again..
there is a war against confidence. Have you noticed the downtrending confisdence in men and women over the last 40 years? I certainly have. The perversion of our society is rampant, and confidence was the foundation of our defense mechanism against these manipulations.
Now we have very few tools to defend ourselves and we lack the courage to use them.
DL
Daniel Larimer15:16:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
wanderingbort
No! 😬 It enables a number of consensus upgrades none of which are required
This.
WT
WealthFlow TMM15:17:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hi People can i ask a simple question.... I know alot of u would eat me raw... Please dont, kindly aid a newbie
1. What do i earn from staking my EOS and
2. Is it possible to stake from using a mobile
D
Dima BLCKCHND15:17:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I also think it stems from people lacking confidence in their own ability to think
I also think it stems from people lacking confidence in their own ability to think
BD
Bruise Drone15:17:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@daniellarimer whats your job @B1 right now? anything going on or just overviewing the dev teams?
D
Dima BLCKCHND15:17:46 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I also think it stems from people lacking confidence in their own ability to think
you a great engineer, but your anti-vaxx misconception is a clear obscurantism
HC
Hustle Crypto15:18:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
you a great engineer, but your anti-vaxx misconception is a clear obscurantism
Again who cares
D
Dima BLCKCHND15:18:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
Again who cares
money
S
Subbu15:18:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
WealthController
Hi People can i ask a simple question.... I know alot of u would eat me raw... Please dont, kindly aid a newbie
1. What do i earn from staking my EOS and
2. Is it possible to stake from using a mobile
Simple free txs... For lifetime
D
DataJunky | GenerEOS15:18:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
WealthController
Hi People can i ask a simple question.... I know alot of u would eat me raw... Please dont, kindly aid a newbie
1. What do i earn from staking my EOS and
2. Is it possible to stake from using a mobile
You can earn EOS from staking and leasing your resources through chintai.io and you can stake from mobile devices if you are using a compatible mobile wallet like eos lynx, meet.one or tokenpocket
BD
Bruise Drone15:18:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
This.
tea or coffee?
HC
Hustle Crypto15:18:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
money
Money had it coming any how
DL
Daniel Larimer15:18:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
you a great engineer, but your anti-vaxx misconception is a clear obscurantism
The same skill that makes me a great engineer applies to other areas.
K
Kenny | eoswriter.io15:18:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@daniellarimer what do you think of Apple Card?
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |15:19:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The recent Mumps outbreak on the US Navy ship that is quarantined is interesting. Everyone on board vas vaccinated. Yet, there it floats.
DL
Daniel Larimer15:19:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Those blockchain experts said I was crazy
HC
Hustle Crypto15:19:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Like building out MAS?
WT
WealthFlow TMM15:19:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Iamsubbu
Simple free txs... For lifetime
Ok so apart from the free txs nothing else
WT
WealthFlow TMM15:19:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
You can earn EOS from staking and leasing your resources through chintai.io and you can stake from mobile devices if you are using a compatible mobile wallet like eos lynx, meet.one or tokenpocket
Ok thanks buddy..... How do i increase my eos tokens by staking.
DL
Daniel Larimer15:19:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It is more important to question the process than the conclusions
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:19:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
you a great engineer, but your anti-vaxx misconception is a clear obscurantism
He's not anti-vaxx
He's not pro-vaxx
He's Dan Larimer and he has opinions. Take it or leave it.
D
Daks15:19:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If you need surgery, you don’t consult a blogger, you consult a professional. Vaccinations are no different. It’s dangerous to ask some illiterate people to research medical reports and make conclusions
SJ
Sam J15:20:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan what do you think of the work done by Dfinity team and others random number generation and VDFs?
WT
WealthFlow TMM15:20:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
You can earn EOS from staking and leasing your resources through chintai.io and you can stake from mobile devices if you are using a compatible mobile wallet like eos lynx, meet.one or tokenpocket
Ill go to chinta now. Thanks
TE
Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:20:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
WealthController
Hi People can i ask a simple question.... I know alot of u would eat me raw... Please dont, kindly aid a newbie
1. What do i earn from staking my EOS and
2. Is it possible to stake from using a mobile
You may use chintai to rent your resources(tokens) and earn certain interest. We will soon have REX which would help you earning interest as well.
Yes, you may use myeoswallet to stake tokens. We are also providing free EOS account to first time users. If you have any questions you may DM me, or reach our team on our TG channel https://t.me/atticlabeosb
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:20:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
dan says we shouldnt trust doctors 🌚🌚
they prescribe drugs hahah
DL
Daniel Larimer15:20:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If you judge someone by their conclusions it tells you nothing
D
DataJunky | GenerEOS15:20:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
WealthController
Ok thanks buddy..... How do i increase my eos tokens by staking.
https://chintai.io/
BD
Bruise Drone15:20:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
https://chintai.io/
lol
WT
WealthFlow TMM15:20:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
You may use chintai to rent your resources(tokens) and earn certain interest. We will soon have REX which would help you earning interest as well.
Yes, you may use myeoswallet to stake tokens. We are also providing free EOS account to first time users. If you have any questions you may DM me, or reach our team on our TG channel https://t.me/atticlabeosb
Thanks sir
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Subbu15:20:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
WealthController
Ok so apart from the free txs nothing else
You can earn income buy lending them to others, if you have more than enough
TE
Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:21:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
WealthController
Thanks sir
Anytime. 🙏
WT
WealthFlow TMM15:21:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Iamsubbu
You can earn income buy lending them to others, if you have more than enough
K
DL
Daniel Larimer15:21:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
He's not anti-vaxx
He's not pro-vaxx
He's Dan Larimer and he has opinions. Take it or leave it.
I’m pro freedom.
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Dima BLCKCHND15:21:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The same skill that makes me a great engineer applies to other areas.
nope, we have dozen example of people that had a Noble prize, but at the same time besides that supported idiotic ideas and beliefs
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:21:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
WealthController
Thanks sir
myeoswallet 100%
Gotta try and remember to recommend this. It's really great
BD
Bruise Drone15:21:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’m pro freedom.
a true american citizen
DL
Daniel Larimer15:21:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
nope, we have dozen example of people that had a Noble prize, but at the same time besides that supported idiotic ideas and beliefs
Nobel prize is meaningless in my book. Obama getting peace prize lol
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Subbu15:22:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’m pro freedom.
Can passes connect existing centralised companies to Blockchain ??
SJ
Sam J15:22:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’m pro freedom.
How do you feel about the work being done on new ways to use consensus to generate random numbers and use VDFs?
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |15:22:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Freedom is the answer. What's the question?
TE
Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:22:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
myeoswallet 100%
Gotta try and remember to recommend this. It's really great
🙏😇
DL
Daniel Larimer15:23:02 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MacroSam
How do you feel about the work being done on new ways to achieve consensus to generate random numbers and use VDFs?
It’s interesting but aside from gambling I’m not sure the use case
C
CHONG, T.15:23:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
there is a war against confidence. Have you noticed the downtrending confisdence in men and women over the last 40 years? I certainly have. The perversion of our society is rampant, and confidence was the foundation of our defense mechanism against these manipulations.
Now we have very few tools to defend ourselves and we lack the courage to use them.
its simple, we kill the bankman
K
Kenny | eoswriter.io15:23:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Where do you see EOS in 5 years?
A
Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:23:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Nobel prize is meaningless in my book. Obama getting peace prize lol
maybe Trump should get a peace prize? Actually thanks to him the two Koreas are in good relationship now 😁
BD
Bruise Drone15:23:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
Freedom is the answer. What's the question?
where‘s the oil?
DL
Daniel Larimer15:23:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
Freedom is the answer. What's the question?
Who should be in control of my body.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |15:23:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Nobel prize is meaningless in my book. Obama getting peace prize lol
And Trump bombed all the same countries as Obama did, so where's Trump's Peace Prize?!?
D
Dima BLCKCHND15:23:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Nobel prize is meaningless in my book. Obama getting peace prize lol
"peace, literature" is meaningless in my book as well, I talk about real science like physics or chemistry
SJ
Sam J15:24:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It’s interesting but aside from gambling I’m not sure the use case
Can’t we use lotteries to archive consensus ?
DL
Daniel Larimer15:24:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If I wasn’t doing blockchain I would be a scientist doing fundamental research
DL
Daniel Larimer15:25:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Basically I want to do experiments first hand
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:25:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’m pro freedom.
I'm banking on it.
I'm highly invested (time and effort) to insure this movement towards freedom is progressing.
I think it's important to acknowledge the enormous individual efforts that each and every one of you are all making to this EOS experiment. Every single one of you are necessary for this movement to succeed. The foundation has been laid and now it's time to build.
P
Phoenix15:25:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
Dan got everyone sweating, maybe you should take a shower 😂
Sweating is one way to rid the bodybofnsome toxins...m 🙃
DL
Daniel Larimer15:25:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Because I don’t trust companies selling me their conclusions
K
Kram15:25:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
If I wasn’t doing blockchain I would be a scientist doing fundamental research
And creating free energy😊
C
CHONG, T.15:26:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
"peace, literature" is meaningless in my book as well, I talk about real science like physics or chemistry
scientific method is universal and can be applied on any topic or activity
SJ
Sam J15:26:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Of block
HP
henri per15:26:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
And Trump bombed all the same countries as Obama did, so where's Trump's Peace Prize?!?
Since Trump arrived, Syria war ended, Isis gone, two Koreas on talking terms , Iraq suicide bombings declined . Tells you something
DL
Daniel Larimer15:26:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Kram
And creating free energy😊
Perhaps, but I must see it
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Dima BLCKCHND15:26:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
CHONG, T.
scientific method is universal and can be applied on any topic or activity
apply it to "peace"
E
Encapsuled15:26:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who should be in control of my body.
Your wife?
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:26:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
If I wasn’t doing blockchain I would be a scientist doing fundamental research
I have some lab equipment i got from the university here. I'll be setting up a chemistry lab in my shop for me and the kids to experiment with. Already got a decent microscope too.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |15:26:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who should be in control of my body.
You. You should have the freedom to control your own body.
BD
Bruise Drone15:26:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Encapsuled
Your wife?
*your brendan
S
Subbu15:26:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Because I don’t trust companies selling me their conclusions
I think b1 is kind of a company
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CHONG, T.15:27:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
apply it to "peace"
yes it can be applied to subjective realities. it is called magick
CV
Crypto Valutov15:27:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Perhaps, but I must see it
https://infinitysav.com/magneticgenerator/?fbclid=IwAR0t4ysDBXVIZYXKARV6sU-IjcCiR8NpQCc0ZCy3XTJKoV5fuOZ_FK9-Mw8
You can buy one 👍
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Kram15:27:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
when you get time — http://www.r-charge.net/Don-Smith-Resonance-Energy-Crafting-Systematic-Index-Book_p_316.html
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:27:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Because I don’t trust companies selling me their conclusions
the best thing is when two researchers come to the same conclusions by using different methods
BD
Bruise Drone15:27:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
the best thing is when two researchers come to the same conclusions by using different methods
the best thing is sleep
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Phoenix15:27:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Kram
even today , how we use electricity is all wrong .....
Correct. And i can tell you...in the back of most IOUs they wonder how they can stay in business as the technologies improve w local generation. It then forms part of the policy w fees and structures to keep them in power
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Encapsuled15:27:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
*your brendan
There is nothing like freedom, just a state of mind.
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Kram15:28:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
when you get time Dan - Don Smith Resonance Energy Crafting Systematic Index Book
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henri per15:28:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
the best thing is when two researchers come to the same conclusions by using different methods
😂😂😂
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:28:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
the best thing is sleep
night
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:28:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kikoper
😂😂😂
why is this so funny?
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Phoenix15:28:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Kram
And creating free energy😊
Id love to see it too
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Daniel Larimer15:29:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Let’s be very clear that I believe in scientific approach and seeking evidence
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Phoenix15:29:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I dont think it needs to be "free" in a sense for how some of these guys present it
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Rich Mouj15:29:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hey @daniellarimer what do you thibk of these new candidates running for govt showing interest in blockchain, wouldnt it be cool if eos was used for trqnspqrent voting in an upcoming election someday?
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Crypto_Crow15:29:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
But, it is true that a baby will absorb more aluminum into his body from air pollution than vaccines
Injecting it into your blood stream is something else than breathing or eating it
HC
Hustle Crypto15:30:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who should be in control of my body.
Your wife haha
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henri per15:30:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
why is this so funny?
Because you’re spot on
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Phoenix15:30:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
Your wife haha
Lol...
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Daniel Larimer15:30:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
Your wife haha
Depends on the day... 😂
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:30:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
Your wife haha
😂
HC
Hustle Crypto15:30:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Depends on the day... 😂
We all need to get your wife to let you build a dating app
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Rich Mouj15:30:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Using blockchain for voting would be an optimal usecase imo
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Rich Mouj15:30:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Other than gamvling 😂
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Bruise Drone15:31:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Depends on the day... 😂
different wives for every day of the week?
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:31:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
We all need to get your wife to let you build a dating app
you still with this idea? haha
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PaulyC15:31:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://medium.com/eoslynx/the-eos-account-problem-12314ebc3a0c
What’s your view here Dan?
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Hustle Crypto15:31:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
you still with this idea? haha
OFC :)
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Daniel Larimer15:31:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
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shieldy_bot15:31:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
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Hustle Crypto15:32:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
draft children for senate and congress
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Rich Mouj15:32:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
So like local govts?
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:32:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who should be in control of my body.
Chaos. Chaos is always in control.
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:32:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
OFC :)
you can start using hashbaby. hahaha
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Chris | Effect.AI15:32:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’m pro freedom.
👍
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brakes15:32:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
vaccines and transhumanism. autism will be used as a reason to test chips that can be implanted in the brain become superhuman:godlike
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cXOkgP_q0mc
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Daks15:32:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Let’s be very clear that I believe in scientific approach and seeking evidence
Can trailer park ladies seek that tho 😅
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:32:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
oh really??? what makes you think so?
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Daniel Larimer15:32:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Only way to keep minority out of power and fair representation by ordinary people
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Daks15:32:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They read infowars blogs about gay frogs 😂
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Daniel Larimer15:33:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Keep terms short.
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Dima BLCKCHND15:33:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
good old monarchy, maybe?
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Red Armanino15:33:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
government runs by AIs machine learning would be even better.
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks15:33:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Keep terms short.
So important imo
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Jamie15:33:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Keep terms short.
Nothing would get finished doing that
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:33:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Only way to keep minority out of power and fair representation by ordinary people
how do we know if they know what they're doing?
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Hustle Crypto15:33:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
redarmanino
government runs by AIs machine learning would be even better.
train a model on thomas paine, peter kropotkin, adam smith, ben franklin
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Daniel Larimer15:33:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
good old monarchy, maybe?
No. You need a body of 1 per 100k of population
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Rich Mouj15:33:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But if we had no choice but to vote, blockchain use case #1
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:34:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Only way to keep minority out of power and fair representation by ordinary people
Who wants to run a country?
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Daniel Larimer15:34:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomly selected
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M L15:34:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
Injecting it into your blood stream is something else than breathing or eating it
Yes, I’m talking about absorption, not exposure
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Daniel Larimer15:34:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Only once per lifetime
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:34:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Randomly selected
would you trust your neighbour to run your country? :)
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Rich Mouj15:34:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Randomly selected
I like that very jokerish lmao
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Rich Mouj15:34:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Chaos
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks15:34:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
would you trust your neighbour to run your country? :)
Maybe your local area
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:35:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
We all need to get your wife to let you build a dating app
I'll donate this account name to the project.
https://eosflare.io/account/datingonline
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks15:35:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It’s all about keeping it local .
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Hustle Crypto15:35:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
I'll donate this account name to the project.
https://eosflare.io/account/datingonline
yes!
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Dima BLCKCHND15:35:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Randomly selected
education?
power is corrupting you need to be prepared
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Daniel Larimer15:35:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
That would create a group of 3200 people in the USA.
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Kram15:35:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
http://www.r-charge.net/Don-Smith-Resonance-Energy-Crafting-Systematic-Index-Book_p_316.html
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:35:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
Maybe your local area
this could work. after all this is how little villages function
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4215:35:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Imperfectk
Capitalism requires a free market of information. When unfettered, individuals use the information to make relevant decisions that come with risks and opportunities. The greater the risks, the higher the rewards and vice versa.
The unfettered capitalism you seem to be talking about is that capitalism where the government eliminates or subsidizes the risks for a few. This could be through proprietary rights, licenses and related exclusionary measures which are not necessarily bad in themselves, but are susceptible to abuse. This abuse is crony capitalism, not unfettered capitalism, and it is what is making socialism attractive again.
The present day financial and technological behemoths could not be possible without governments. Accordingly, the power the government wields will only be used mostly to the advantage of those conglomerates and their ilk. It is only used to protect the weak in order to maintain stability by placating them and discouraging a revolt against the excesses of the status quo.
So what’s the suggested alternative? What’s the ideal?
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:35:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Randomly selected
That sounds like a pretty bad idea, Dan.
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Subbu15:35:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
That would create a group of 3200 people in the USA.
Don't talk about China and india
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Subbu15:36:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
😂
HC
Hustle Crypto15:36:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
local currency + local goverment + local mutual aid society = winning
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Daniel Larimer15:36:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Requirements would be that laws passed by one group must be approved by following group before adopting
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Zoomoo15:36:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
No. You need a body of 1 per 100k of population
like jury selection for government
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PaulyC15:36:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol what happens if u didn’t want to be picked
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Scott15:36:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
@daniellarimer I’ve been wanting to hear your thoughts on the DAPP network and its implications, not sure if I missed the discussion. How do you see them intertwining? I feel like it solved so many limitations on the main net but no one is talking about it!
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:36:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
That would create a group of 3200 people in the USA.
But you still live in a country which has other country’s to deal with/take into account
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:36:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
That would create a group of 3200 people in the USA.
would they have any decision making power over something larger than their counties?
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Hustle Crypto15:36:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
paulyc
Lol what happens if u didn’t want to be picked
tell them your a nazi
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Rich Mouj15:36:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
paulyc
Lol what happens if u didn’t want to be picked
😂
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Daniel Larimer15:36:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Career politicians are disconnected from reality
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Subbu15:36:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Requirements would be that laws passed by one group must be approved by following group before adopting
Not necessarily... They can have their local laws
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Rich Mouj15:37:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But everything being the same, blockchains best usecase to date would probabky be voting
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Dima BLCKCHND15:37:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Requirements would be that laws passed by one group must be approved by following group before adopting
how abput corruption inside "the chosen once"?
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Corn Bread (eosDAC hodler)15:37:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Define reality, it's all relative
HC
Hustle Crypto15:37:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
richmouj
But everything being the same, blockchains best usecase to date would probably be voting
bah, blockchains best usecase to date would be supply chain logistics hand down
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Zoomoo15:37:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Not efficient to educate each new random Senate selection
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:37:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
problem is that once a person gets "there" he/she becomes same as other politicians
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Zoomoo15:37:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Also a national security risk lol
HC
Hustle Crypto15:37:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dla42bY7k90&feature=youtu.be
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Daniel Larimer15:38:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
how about corruption inside "the chosen one"?
Corruption takes time. I would require a Byzantine fault tolerant vote of 2/3+
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Subbu15:38:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
problem is that once a person gets "there" he/she becomes same as other politicians
True
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:38:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I blame for it the regulations
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:38:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Requirements would be that laws passed by one group must be approved by following group before adopting
Countries run on diplomacy with other countries. It requires stability and strong decision making. I don't random selected group of people could take good decisions and provide stability.
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Rich Mouj15:38:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
bah, blockchains best usecase to date would be supply chain logistics hand down
Ok i agree, still would be a serious usecase
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks15:38:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
I blame for it the regulations
Lobbyists.. and corporate interests
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:38:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Only once per lifetime
What if you could only design one blockchain project per lifetime? We wouldn't be here. Some people are better at governing than others and some people don't consent to be governed at all.
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:38:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
too stiffling so people don't know what to do and they end up in same mess
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:38:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
Lobbyists.. and corporate interests
yes
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:38:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
Countries run on diplomacy with other countries. It requires stability and strong decision making. I don't random selected group of people could take good decisions and provide stability.
That’s what I’m thinking
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Zoomoo15:38:46 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
What if you could only design one blockchain project per lifetime? We wouldn't be here. Some people are better at governing than others and some people don't consent to be governed at all.
+1
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Kram15:38:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Perhaps, but I must see it
I've seen it in person...pretty fascinating .....
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Daniel Larimer15:38:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
Countries run on diplomacy with other countries. It requires stability and strong decision making. I don't random selected group of people could take good decisions and provide stability.
I think it would be far more stable than two party bs
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Rich Mouj15:39:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan for president
RM
Rich Mouj15:39:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lets do it
HC
Hustle Crypto15:39:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
richmouj
Dan for president
please no
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Zoomoo15:39:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
richmouj
Dan for president
Change his mind more than trump
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:39:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Aneta_EOS
problem is that once a person gets "there" he/she becomes same as other politicians
Agreed. No one want to get out of power. They start using same dirty tricks as used by former to extract wealth and be in power.
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks15:39:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
Agreed. No one want to get out of power. They start using same dirty tricks as used by former to extract wealth and be in power.
That’s why short term limits
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:40:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think it would be far more stable than two party bs
one would need to read some history books and see why it didn't work with hundreds of kingdoms in old Italy etc.
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Dima BLCKCHND15:40:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Corruption takes time. I would require a Byzantine fault tolerant vote of 2/3+
random people, less prepared to bribe, no?
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:40:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Iamsubbu
Don't talk about China and india
hahaha it sure does at first glance, but not necessarily. Chaos provides an avenue for humans to create order. It is a great motivator to keep the system in check and always alert.
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Yann Rdn15:40:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
That sounds like a pretty bad idea, Dan.
It's great idea and a good way to limit corruption.
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Daniel Larimer15:40:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
What if you could only design one blockchain project per lifetime? We wouldn't be here. Some people are better at governing than others and some people don't consent to be governed at all.
The problem is that those best at governance govern least. Those best at campaign are not best at governing. Randomly selected sample is similar to direct democracy
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Hustle Crypto15:40:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The problem is that those best at governance govern least. Those best at campaign are not best at governing. Randomly selected sample is similar to direct democracy
why not do direct democracy?
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Daniel Larimer15:40:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Except only a select few need to debate
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Hustle Crypto15:41:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
seems we have the technology
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Rich Mouj15:41:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I think transparency is ao important, if it doesnt completely deter certain actions at least it will make them harder, imagine a business watched with a camera from every angle vs no cameras
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:41:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The problem is that those best at governance govern least. Those best at campaign are not best at governing. Randomly selected sample is similar to direct democracy
You would randomly select too many idiots
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Dmac15:41:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think it would be far more stable than two party bs
It seems like you are aware of something that protects EOS from this corruption
HC
Hustle Crypto15:41:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
You would randomly select too many idiots
your gonna select an idiot reguardless, might as well be a lottery
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:41:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think it would be far more stable than two party bs
Not every country run on two parties, there could be new parties taking control. I would say bringing transparency, limiting government responsibilities would help a lot.
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Zoomoo15:42:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The problem is that those best at governance govern least. Those best at campaign are not best at governing. Randomly selected sample is similar to direct democracy
those most determined for the job will rise to fill the role. Just like capitalism
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Aneta - eosnetworkxx proxy & goodsquirrel for Telos15:42:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I'm not sure if there should be one king. I'd rather go for a group of people in each small country but it also depends on the size. If a country is small enough then one could be enough. The citizens would then keep him in check
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Zoomoo15:42:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Wouldn't want random ppl assigned to run apple
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:42:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
your gonna select an idiot reguardless, might as well be a lottery
Idiots don’t get to run countries just hyper successful control freaks there’s a difference haha
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Hustle Crypto15:43:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
Idiots don’t get to run countries just hyper successful control freaks there’s a difference haha
hyper successful con men**
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Destiny15:43:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What if my freedom goes against someone elses freedom? Freedom as an ultimate goal is a flawed concept.
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:43:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
That’s why we need short term limits
Short term doesn't mean that the second person will not be corrupt or try to extract power. They may try to extract more as got the chance.
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:43:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Power could be abused.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:43:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The problem is that those best at governance govern least. Those best at campaign are not best at governing. Randomly selected sample is similar to direct democracy
Random governance is an idea I can get behind. I really liked the random airdropped jury duty for arbitration I proposed earlier in the eosgov chat. Just airdrop jury tokens to random members until 21 jurors "opt in" voluntarily which would null the rest of the airdrops.
Then you have a jury of 21 randomly selected jurors to deliberate and decide opn small claims within the eos network.
That can scale and we can fund it with a wps and it would be way less money than paying all those self appointed mofo's
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Yann Rdn15:43:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
the draw can be done only within a large pool of qualified people. And to lead does not mean to have no advice
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Zoomoo15:44:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
maybe we should just randomly assign BPs as well, without qualification, I will spin up a node and try to win some money even though I have no real interest or tech ability
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Abby15:44:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
Random governance is an idea I can get behind. I really liked the random airdropped jury duty for arbitration I proposed earlier in the eosgov chat. Just airdrop jury tokens to random members until 21 jurors "opt in" voluntarily which would null the rest of the airdrops.
Then you have a jury of 21 randomly selected jurors to deliberate and decide opn small claims within the eos network.
That can scale and we can fund it with a wps and it would be way less money than paying all those self appointed mofo's
It's a bad idea. It's too troublesome
JB
Josh Brown15:44:46 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
Random governance is an idea I can get behind. I really liked the random airdropped jury duty for arbitration I proposed earlier in the eosgov chat. Just airdrop jury tokens to random members until 21 jurors "opt in" voluntarily which would null the rest of the airdrops.
Then you have a jury of 21 randomly selected jurors to deliberate and decide opn small claims within the eos network.
That can scale and we can fund it with a wps and it would be way less money than paying all those self appointed mofo's
Great idea, but people that don’t think it’s worth it to to the duty will make it not so random anymore
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Scott15:44:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan what do you think of the Liquidapps DAPP network? It seems to have solved the major scaling limitations of main net, wondering how you envision this expansion going forward? I’m eager to see a network of DSPs form to create games and websites that are 100% on chain
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Yann Rdn15:45:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
anyway the best possible leader is someone who does not specifically look for power
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Steve Smith15:45:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Wouldn’t a constant cycle of complete randoms create a scenario whereby the outputs of the governing people literally create too many changes in direction?
Countries and economies are like ocean liners.
You need to know where you want to be in 20km, so you can turn now.
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Dima BLCKCHND15:45:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
anyway the best possible leader is someone who does not specifically look for power
putin refused to be president 1999 3 times
HC
Hustle Crypto15:46:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
anyway the best possible leader is someone who does not specifically look for power
so lets draft the homeless for congress
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:46:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
anyway the best possible leader is someone who does not specifically look for power
People could act that way just to acquire the power.
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PaulyC15:46:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
so lets draft the homeless for congress
Lol
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:47:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HighlyHybrid
Dan what do you think of the Liquidapps DAPP network? It seems to have solved the major scaling limitations of main net, wondering how you envision this expansion going forward? I’m eager to see a network of DSPs form to create games and websites that are 100% on chain
It's a little complicated for now, last I learned. We would still be expanding horizontally introducing more chains in the ecosystem connected by IBC.
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Yann Rdn15:48:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
People could act that way just to acquire the power.
Thats why random selection is good
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:48:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
jbbasics
Great idea, but people that don’t think it’s worth it to do the duty will make it not so random anymore
If they don't think it's worth it they will opt out (not claim the jury token) and someone more willing to earn or participate will volunteer.
If you airdrop / skyhook to random eos accounts every time it'll be vastly different selections every time with the same 2/3+1 consensus everytime. I don't see a problem
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DataJunky | GenerEOS15:49:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
so lets draft the homeless for congress
That's not a bad idea at all. We could use a new perspective
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Dima BLCKCHND15:49:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
Thats why random selection is good
try to build a bridge with random selected people, is easiar than govern
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Hustle Crypto15:49:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
That's not a bad idea at all. We could use a new perspective
srsly
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Daniel Larimer15:50:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
Wouldn’t a constant cycle of complete randoms create a scenario whereby the outputs of the governing people literally create too many changes in direction?
Countries and economies are like ocean liners.
You need to know where you want to be in 20km, so you can turn now.
No. Because it requires two cycles to approve and 2/3
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Hustle Crypto15:50:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
That's not a bad idea at all. We could use a new perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTOyeFQgZKk
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Daniel Larimer15:50:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Change in laws would only occur when population generally wants it
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Yann Rdn15:50:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
Wouldn’t a constant cycle of complete randoms create a scenario whereby the outputs of the governing people literally create too many changes in direction?
Countries and economies are like ocean liners.
You need to know where you want to be in 20km, so you can turn now.
I think this is the only serious counter argument but hey same shit with elections
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |15:51:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
Iceland did this, yup.
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Daniel Larimer15:51:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Furthermore I think a requirement that all votes for a law can recite it from memory would be good 🤓
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Josh Brown15:52:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
If they don't think it's worth it they will opt out (not claim the jury token) and someone more willing to earn or participate will volunteer.
If you airdrop / skyhook to random eos accounts every time it'll be vastly different selections every time with the same 2/3+1 consensus everytime. I don't see a problem
I just mean people that are more all off will not participate
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Josh Brown15:52:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Well, some will because they feel it’s their duty
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Hustle Crypto15:52:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Furthermore I think a requirement that all votes for a law can recite it from memory would be good 🤓
or at least take some sort of test showing they have a solid of understanding of what it is they are voting on
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simon case (EOSphere) 🇦🇺15:52:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Furthermore I think a requirement that all votes for a law can recite it from memory would be good 🤓
I like the idea of a finite number of laws. To add a new one you must remove an old one
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:52:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Furthermore I think a requirement that all votes for a law can recite it from memory would be good 🤓
No one would vote 😂
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Hustle Crypto15:53:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
prop D in los angeles is a great example of people thinking they know what theyre voting on, but prop E is actually what people wanted
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Daniel Larimer15:53:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
or at least take some sort of test showing they have a solid of understanding of what it is they are voting on
The test might not be objective
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Zoomoo15:53:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Furthermore I think a requirement that all votes for a law can recite it from memory would be good 🤓
maybe B1 should adopt random governance. boom, the secretary takes Brendan's spot and janitor gets Dan's
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Daniel Larimer15:53:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
No one would vote 😂
Unless it really matters
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Hustle Crypto15:53:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The test might not be objective
and testing someones memoriziation skills isnt?
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:53:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
simoncase
I like the idea of a finite number of laws. To add a new one you must remove an old one
Ha! Yeah can’t leave your house in this country without breaking a law
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Hustle Crypto15:54:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
:P
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Steve Smith15:54:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
No. Because it requires two cycles to approve and 2/3
Then I need to scroll up further and read more comments 🤣
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Dima BLCKCHND15:54:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Furthermore I think a requirement that all votes for a law can recite it from memory would be good 🤓
parrot can do this
they need to understand
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Hustle Crypto15:54:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
parrot can do this,
they need to understand the law
this
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:54:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Unless it really matters
Will it threaten their tv connection?
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Hustle Crypto15:54:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
republicans would have every homeless man in there, trying to reciet the laws half drunk
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Bruise Drone15:56:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i lost all my money.. i invested in vaccines 🥺
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |15:56:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If there must be a government (a) only net tax payers should have the vote, and (b) your vote should be public.
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Kenny | eoswriter.io15:56:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Educated people should be making the decisions right? Maybe a certain base level of education to be able to vote? But then the education system is fairly broken anyways 🙈
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Scott15:57:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
It's a little complicated for now, last I learned. We would still be expanding horizontally introducing more chains in the ecosystem connected by IBC.
Gotcha, and I do see the continued need for side and sister chains with competing gov models but the storage mechanism of DAPP network seems to be almost a horizontal solution for all EOS.io chains (and more) considering that all the data is stored in full chain history yet doesn’t bog down RAM. Still learning as I build out a Dapp.
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab15:57:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
Educated people should be making the decisions right? Maybe a certain base level of education to be able to vote? But then the education system is fairly broken anyways 🙈
Education system is doomed. I would prefer experienced instead.
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simon case (EOSphere) 🇦🇺15:57:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Political party where cabinet members are vote weighted by party member votes.
Votes recast at voters discretion.
A kind of direct democracy within a party.
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Hustle Crypto15:57:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
If there must be a government (a) only net tax payers should have the vote, and (b) your vote should be public.
I disagree, I take it back to agrarian rights / justice. Everyone born into this beautiful planet should have a say in how "their land" is governed, and they should have rights to a portion of the profits produced by said land
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M L15:58:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
Injecting it into your blood stream is something else than breathing or eating it
You don’t get vaccines injected into your blood streams. They’re injected into soft tissue
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Dima BLCKCHND15:58:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
If there must be a government (a) only net tax payers should have the vote, and (b) your vote should be public.
if you have dotation from the government on 1 cent more than your bring in taxes
no right to vote at all
otherwise is a road to communism=) that definitely happens in EU and US nowadays
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M L15:59:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
Like jury duty? No thanks
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |15:59:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Nope. The education system mostly just teaches kids how to be communists. So education should not be a requirement for leadership.
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Hustle Crypto16:00:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
if you have dotation from the government on 1 cent more than your bring in taxes
no right to vote at all
otherwise is a road to communism=) that definitely happens in EU and US nowadays
whats wrong with socialism/communism? i might be inclined to say capitalism is reaching a point of diminisihing returns on increasing quality of life.
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Hustle Crypto16:00:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
which is the only metric that really matters
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M L16:00:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
whats wrong with socialism/communism? i might be inclined to say capitalism is reaching a point of diminisihing returns on increasing quality of life.
Centralized control
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |16:00:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Better to just have 'wallet voting'. Let people voluntarily fund the projects that they want to see.
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Dima BLCKCHND16:00:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
whats wrong with socialism/communism? i might be inclined to say capitalism is reaching a point of diminisihing returns on increasing quality of life.
it creates GULAGs in long term
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M L16:00:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It always leads to massive inequality
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Kenny | eoswriter.io16:00:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It always leads to massive inequality
Life leads to inequality
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Hustle Crypto16:01:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It always leads to massive inequality
we already have massive inequality....
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Dima BLCKCHND16:01:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
it creates GULAGs in long term
somebody need to work)
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M L16:01:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Communism is a bad idea, mkay?
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Hustle Crypto16:01:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
somebody need to work)
what does socialism / communism have to do with work?
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |16:01:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If you cannot find voluntary funding for your desired project, then fund it yourself or shut up. That's my kind of system.
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Hustle Crypto16:01:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Communism is a bad idea, mkay?
Sorry, i cant agree
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Abby16:01:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
If only one vote, not 30, would not result in the current concentration of power
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M L16:02:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
Sorry, i cant agree
Have you looked at any communist society anywhere? Or visited a communist country?
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Dima BLCKCHND16:02:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
what does socialism / communism have to do with work?
who wil work if nobody want?
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M L16:02:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It doesn’t work out
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Hustle Crypto16:02:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It doesn’t work out
hasnt so far.... doesnt mean it cant if done right.
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M L16:02:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol
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Abby16:02:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Therefore, EOS is the product of the failure of power centralization
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Kenny | eoswriter.io16:02:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Is someone here advocating communism?
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M L16:02:46 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
200 years of trying
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M L16:03:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Abby521
Therefore, EOS is the product of the failure of power centralization
Wut?
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M L16:03:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Who’s in charge of EOS?
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Hustle Crypto16:03:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
Is someone here advocating communism?
not nessisarily, just saying people are to closed minded to alternative systems
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Dima BLCKCHND16:03:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It doesn’t work out
agree
they need to live in commi contrys to undestand
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M L16:03:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
not nessisarily, just saying people are to closed minded to alternative systems
Lol
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DataJunky | GenerEOS16:03:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
Education system is doomed. I would prefer experienced instead.
a decentralized "earn to learn" university would solve this public educatikon problem. The problem isn't necessarily the student, the teachers, or the institutions. It's the centralised regulatory body that is dumbing us down with curriculum changes and budget cuts year after year.
We need to take back control of our educations in the same way we are revolutionizing our individual economic power.
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M L16:03:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Communism is not an “alternative system”
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Kenny | eoswriter.io16:04:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
not nessisarily, just saying people are to closed minded to alternative systems
There’s a reason for that, choose the wrong system or try something that doesn’t work and you’ll find yourself in a living hell, changes should not be made lightly
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M L16:04:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It’s just a central body with absolute monopoly on violence using that power to take an absolute monopoly on all goods and services in the economy
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Dima BLCKCHND16:04:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It’s just a central body with absolute monopoly on violence using that power to take an absolute monopoly on all goods and services in the economy
+
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Hustle Crypto16:04:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
There’s a reason for that, choose the wrong system or try something that doesn’t work and you’ll find yourself in a living hell, changes should not be made lightly
also shouldnt discount parts of a concept, because it has only ever been executed awefully
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab16:05:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
a decentralized "earn to learn" university would solve this public educatikon problem. The problem isn't necessarily the student, the teachers, or the institutions. It's the centralised regulatory body that is dumbing us down with curriculum changes and budget cuts year after year.
We need to take back control of our educations in the same way we are revolutionizing our individual economic power.
Yes. It would really help a lot. Not just education but involving three steps of education, mentorship and experience. Not few structure set by the university but only willing of the student to learn what they want to.
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Hustle Crypto16:05:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
“Don’t compete! — competition is always injurious to the species, and you have plenty of resources to avoid it!”
― Pyotr Kropotkin
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Dima BLCKCHND16:06:39 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
also shouldnt discount parts of a concept, because it has only ever been executed awefully
if it is smell like shit, looks like shit and feel like shit it is definitely a shit, don't need to eat it to understand
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Daniel Larimer16:06:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
and testing someones memoriziation skills isnt?
It’s subject matter neutral and proves they read it.
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Hustle Crypto16:07:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It’s subject matter neutral and proves they read it.
who cares if they read it and didnt understand?
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BLACK CASH16:07:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
rat4: "I see potential to scale better than Ethereum and cheaper than EOS."https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg46156926#msg46156926
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Hustle Crypto16:08:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
“...the fittest are not the physically strongest, nor the cunningest, but those who learn to combine so as mutually to support each other, strong and weak alike, for the welfare of the community.
The fittest are thus the most sociable animals, and sociability appears as the chief factor of evolution, both directly, by securing the well-being of the species while diminishing the waste of energy, and indirectly, by favouring the growth of intelligence.
Those species which willingly or unwillingly abandon it are doomed to decay; while those animals which know best how to combine, have the greatest chances of survival and of further evolution, although they may be inferior to others in each of the faculties enumerated by Darwin and Wallace, save the intellectual faculty.
...we maintain that under any circumstances sociability is the greatest advantage in the struggle for life.” (Peter Kropotkin 1902, n.p.)
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Kenny | eoswriter.io16:08:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
“Don’t compete! — competition is always injurious to the species, and you have plenty of resources to avoid it!”
― Pyotr Kropotkin
If you want to create a society founded on utopian ideas of how humans should act but completely disregard who we are and how we do act, you’ll create hell, it’s as simple as that
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Bruise Drone16:10:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
GUYS
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Bruise Drone16:10:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i got a job
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Bruise Drone16:10:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
at mcdonalds
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Hustle Crypto16:11:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Congratz
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Bruise Drone16:11:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
thanks
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Bruise Drone16:11:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
finally no more living at mama‘s basement
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Hustle Crypto16:11:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
im sure in 5 years you will be manager, and you can tell some people struggling to survive check to check to get back to work
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Hustle Crypto16:12:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
finally no more living at mama‘s basement
Dont kick living in your moms basement now. Where else do you keep your base guitar and smoke weed?
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Hustle Crypto16:14:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
kennyEOSwriter
If you want to create a society founded on utopian ideas of how humans should act but completely disregard who we are and how we do act, you’ll create hell, it’s as simple as that
mutual aid is human nature, we can agree to disagree here
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Mike Anomaly16:14:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
at mcdonalds
Congratulation ur moving up on life
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Bruise Drone16:16:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Cryptoloser2018
Congratulation ur moving up on life
next step: trying to get unvaccinated
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Hustle Crypto16:17:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
next step: trying to get unvaccinated
im pretty sure theres a pill for that
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Bruise Drone16:17:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
im pretty sure theres a pill for that
really? do you think i can afford the pill with my mcdonalds salary?
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Hustle Crypto16:18:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
really? do you think i can afford the pill with my mcdonalds salary?
maybe when your manager
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Bruise Drone16:18:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
maybe when your manager
when my manager what?
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io16:18:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It’s subject matter neutral and proves they read it.
Lobbyists will game that and turn it into a market, like how they currently pay homeless people to stand in a que for the public comment section when passing legislation.
The intent was those that care the most would line up to be heard. However, market forces prevailed.
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Sam J16:19:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
So work some random number generators into DPOS??
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Sam J16:20:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
MacroSam
So work some random number generators into DPOS??
A random selection of staked voters?
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DataJunky | GenerEOS16:20:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
Yes. It would really help a lot. Not just education but involving three steps of education, mentorship and experience. Not few structure set by the university but only willing of the student to learn what they want to.
Exactly. unchooling is the answer.
Students need to have the freedom to learn what they want, what they gravitate towards, what they're interested in and what they thrive off of.
Todays centrilzed shitshow does not allow any flexibility this way.
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HeadiEddie16:21:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think group think is more dangerous than vaccines or lack of vaccines
+1
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Once Uponatime16:22:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://steemit.com/bitshares/@stan/beos-is-now-signing-blocks-in-international-waters
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io16:23:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Randomly selected
The ancient Greeks did this in Athens. It's where democracy started. It's called sortition.
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io16:23:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
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Yann Rdn16:24:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
try to build a bridge with random selected people, it is easier than govern
do you test this bridge by yourself first?
I think you miss the point. Apply the idea to bridge construction would mean select randomly between competent companies to avoid bribes and embezzlement of public money. And about governing in democracy, it should simply apply the choices of the people in the majority of cases
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HeadiEddie16:24:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
I think we would have a better outcome if we left it to scientist and utilized connect four when there is a disagreement last more than five minutes.
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Hustle Crypto16:24:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
Kleroterion would be easy to code in eos
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Ezra Yao16:25:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/PSQ7--JgO0E
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Cuba Coin16:25:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eDBh3zuYo
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Hustle Crypto16:26:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sacred geometry... psh
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Hustle Crypto16:26:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
go hold your crystals close, and pray for brainz
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Dima BLCKCHND16:26:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
I think you miss the point. Apply the idea to bridge construction would mean select randomly between competent companies to avoid bribes and embezzlement of public money. And about governing in democracy, it should simply consist in apply the choices of the people in the majority of cases
so for the bridge, you need specialists,
but for the government that produces tenders for the bridge are ok with average Joe?
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Pink Wojak16:27:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What if... all genesis accounts receive invitation and paid trip to June 1st event. Viral marketing right there, you are welcome
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab16:29:46 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
Exactly. unchooling is the answer.
Students need to have the freedom to learn what they want, what they gravitate towards, what they're interested in and what they thrive off of.
Todays centrilzed shitshow does not allow any flexibility this way.
💯💯
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HeadiEddie16:31:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
go hold your crystals close, and pray for brainz
You sir, have never smoked dmt.
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Abby16:31:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
PinkWojak
What if... all genesis accounts receive invitation and paid trip to June 1st event. Viral marketing right there, you are welcome
Genesis Account, what about other general accounts?
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Hustle Crypto16:32:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
You sir, have never smoked dmt.
I have indeed.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |16:32:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
The ancient Greeks did this in Athens. It's where democracy started. It's called sortition.
Cool find. In Iceland they just chose names from a phone book. The random selection of leaders may be an improvement over the sociopaths that flock to the halls of power BUT the 1000X improvement would be to replace those halls of power with voluntary interactions between people who control their minds, body, and other property.
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HeadiEddie16:32:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Apparently not enough
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okayplanet | Patreos16:32:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
Lobbyists.. and corporate interests
These things will be easier to execute if the government is randomly selected and limited to one term. Career politicians still have a reputation to manage to continue their services.
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Steve Smith16:33:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
Exactly. unchooling is the answer.
Students need to have the freedom to learn what they want, what they gravitate towards, what they're interested in and what they thrive off of.
Todays centrilzed shitshow does not allow any flexibility this way.
I actually disagree with this.
Schooling should be about education the youth in a manner that will serve them best.
Whether the current curriculum fits that description is open to debate, but a foundational education in key areas is vital for their success.
It’s an easy topic to think about.
Generally speaking, we know those that leave school lacking certain key skills are likely to struggle in life.
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Stacey16:35:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ok
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Yann Rdn16:35:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
blockchained
so for the bridge, you need specialists,
but for the government that produces tenders for the bridge are ok with average Joe?
Maybe not average joe, but average educated people on a temporary mission for the public good may be more respectful of democracy concept
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Trenton Scott , Sonata Systems, Inc.16:35:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The single biggest fix would be limiting terms in Congress, but the fox is guarding the hen house...
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Katie Roman16:37:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
I literally just said this would be a cool eosio chain....
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab16:37:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
I actually disagree with this.
Schooling should be about education the youth in a manner that will serve them best.
Whether the current curriculum fits that description is open to debate, but a foundational education in key areas is vital for their success.
It’s an easy topic to think about.
Generally speaking, we know those that leave school lacking certain key skills are likely to struggle in life.
Education doesn't guarantee success or struggle-free life. It becomes horrible if someone opt for a different course without his wish.
Skills, intelligence, creativity are not equal to education.
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Belief is the enemy of knowing16:39:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
@daniellarimer
There you go...
Hope u can read the books I shared..
Sid, hate to say it, but you’ve been in-doctrinated.
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The Third 🇬🇧16:40:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
i get the impressiom our man Dan had a challenging 18 months and he has all the b1 eos stuff queued up ready to go....now hes just recalibrating and going down the rabbit hole exploring new info. credit to him and anyone striving to learn and questioning the status quo.
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The Third 🇬🇧16:40:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joon moon will be streamed. roll on
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Steve Smith16:40:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
Education doesn't guarantee success or struggle-free life. It becomes horrible if someone opt for a different course without his wish.
Skills, intelligence, creativity are not equal to education.
I didn’t say guarantee. I said specifically ‘generally’ and I used that word intentionally.
And if the education doesn’t encourage you to flourish in any or all of the three areas you highlighted, the. I would suggest the education you receive isn’t rich enough.
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SID16:41:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
KungFuKeto
Sid, hate to say it, but you’ve been in-doctrinated.
Well Dan likes to read books and treat himself... Thought those books will be interesting to read
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |16:41:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Shift Happens. The next system of the world isn't going to be an adjustment. One cannot tinker with democracy to make it work. The next system of the world is going to be something very different.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |16:42:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
At this stage I think it's good to question everything.
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab16:43:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
I didn’t say guarantee. I said specifically ‘generally’ and I used that word intentionally.
And if the education doesn’t encourage you to flourish in any or all of the three areas you highlighted, then I would suggest the education you receive isn’t rich enough.
I would say that education stops people from being creative.
I hope I could have continued but need to go. Maybe later. 🙏😇
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Steve Smith16:43:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tanishv2
I would say that education stops people from being creative.
I hope I could have continued but need to go. Maybe later. 🙏😇
No problem. I disagree, but maybe we take it up again sometime in the future.
Take care
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DataJunky | GenerEOS16:44:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
I actually disagree with this.
Schooling should be about education the youth in a manner that will serve them best.
Whether the current curriculum fits that description is open to debate, but a foundational education in key areas is vital for their success.
It’s an easy topic to think about.
Generally speaking, we know those that leave school lacking certain key skills are likely to struggle in life.
I don't think you are disagreeing with it. You're just assuming there's no foundational framework in my example.
The foundational education would still be the same at least for early stage development. Obviously there are plenty of basic skills that we require to participate in this grand social experiment we call life and that will always be available. I just think that it needs to be flexible enough to provide options for individuals.
The 30 kids per classroom all learning the same things is just a roadblock to developing a childs mind. They should have a lot more freedom of education and that's what I am describing here.
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Tanish | EOS | Telos Attic Lab16:44:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
No problem. I disagree, but maybe we take it up again sometime in the future.
Take care
👍😉
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io16:46:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
Cool find. In Iceland they just chose names from a phone book. The random selection of leaders may be an improvement over the sociopaths that flock to the halls of power BUT the 1000X improvement would be to replace those halls of power with voluntary interactions between people who control their minds, body, and other property.
Sounds a little like anarchy, which is a romantic concept, but like communism I believe it only works in ivory towers.
In anarchy no one would volunteer to be in the army. Works great until an authoritarian country that isn't so free sees your ungaurded border. Glass Kingdoms don't stand for long.
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Yann Rdn16:47:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The_th1rd
i get the impressiom our man Dan had a challenging 18 months and he has all the b1 eos stuff queued up ready to go....now hes just recalibrating and going down the rabbit hole exploring new info. credit to him and anyone striving to learn and questioning the status quo.
I did not know much about him and I feel happy to discover he's not only a great engineer but also a real free thinker. It makes me even more confident that eos is in good hands
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Steve Smith16:47:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
I don't think you are disagreeing with it. You're just assuming there's no foundational framework in my example.
The foundational education would still be the same at least for early stage development. Obviously there are plenty of basic skills that we require to participate in this grand social experiment we call life and that will always be available. I just think that it needs to be flexible enough to provide options for individuals.
The 30 kids per classroom all learning the same things is just a roadblock to developing a childs mind. They should have a lot more freedom of education and that's what I am describing here.
You used the words ‘unschooling’ and ‘have the freedom to learn what they want’
I am highlighting the fact there are many skills the young will need to succeed that do not fit that description
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Phoenix16:48:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
I did not know much about him and I feel happy to discover he's not only a great engineer but also a real free thinker. It makes me even more confident that eos is in good hands
👍
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Daniel Larimer16:49:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
I don't think you are disagreeing with it. You're just assuming there's no foundational framework in my example.
The foundational education would still be the same at least for early stage development. Obviously there are plenty of basic skills that we require to participate in this grand social experiment we call life and that will always be available. I just think that it needs to be flexible enough to provide options for individuals.
The 30 kids per classroom all learning the same things is just a roadblock to developing a childs mind. They should have a lot more freedom of education and that's what I am describing here.
I agree. My kids are frequently bored and they take all the advanced classes the schools offer and then pursue their own learning at home. One size fits all is damaging to the majority of kids.
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Hustle Crypto16:50:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I agree. My kids are frequently bored and they take all the advanced classes the schools offer and then pursue their own learning at home. One size fits all is damaging to the majority of kids.
do they write code yet?
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DataJunky | GenerEOS16:51:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
You used the words ‘unschooling’ and ‘have the freedom to learn what they want’
I am highlighting the fact there are many skills the young will need to succeed that do not fit that description
Unschooling is a new concept, I should have familiarized the term before using it. It doesn't mean "no schooling" it's just a new approach to learning popularized by Dayna Martin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling
"Unschooling is an educational method and philosophy that advocates learner-chosen activities as a primary means for learning. Unschooling students learn through their natural life experiences including play, household responsibilities, personal interests and curiosity, internships and work experience, travel, books, elective classes, family, mentors, and social interaction. Unschooling encourages exploration of activities initiated by the children themselves, believing that the more personal learning is the more meaningful, well-understood and therefore useful it is to the child. While courses may occasionally be taken, unschooling questions the usefulness of standard curricula, conventional grading methods, and other features of traditional schooling in the education of each unique child."
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Daniel Larimer16:51:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
do they write code yet?
I’ve given them into to c++
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Hustle Crypto16:51:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve given them into to c++
straight into c++ wow, not even python to warm them up huh?
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Hustle Crypto16:51:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hah
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Frank Furter16:55:46 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
HeadiEddie
+1
You and Dan just formed a group...
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Phoenix16:56:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTm8Uxe3Obc
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CHONG, T.16:56:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve given them into to c++
teach them how to smash ze stash
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CHONG, T.16:56:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
😈
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Phoenix16:56:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
pretty interesting talk. I recommend everyone give it a listen
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Hustle Crypto16:56:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Wof310
pretty interesting talk. I recommend everyone give it a listen
any eos talk?
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Phoenix16:56:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
any eos talk?
it isn't about EOS. It is about innovation.
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Phoenix16:57:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
That applies to what we want to do with EOS. It gives his perspective and history
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ian16:57:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The_th1rd
i get the impressiom our man Dan had a challenging 18 months and he has all the b1 eos stuff queued up ready to go....now hes just recalibrating and going down the rabbit hole exploring new info. credit to him and anyone striving to learn and questioning the status quo.
thought this stuff about questioning was kooky to you?
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DataJunky | GenerEOS16:58:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I agree. My kids are frequently bored and they take all the advanced classes the schools offer and then pursue their own learning at home. One size fits all is damaging to the majority of kids.
The cookie cutter classrooms are great if you want obedient tax slaves willing to kill in a rich mans war everytime the media cries out for it.
If we truly want to find freedom, we just have to know where to look for it. Freedom isn't something you "fight" for. It needs to be taught at an early age. A fundamental truth that we can and should all rally behind, peacefully through education and best practises.
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Phoenix16:59:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
See time at 6:45 mark - about his lessons from paypal experiance.
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ian16:59:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The cookie cutter classrooms are great if you want obedient tax slaves willing to kill in a rich mans war everytime the media cries out for it. ——- truth
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ian16:59:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
The cookie cutter classrooms are great if you want obedient tax slaves willing to kill in a rich mans war everytime the media cries out for it.
If we truly want to find freedom, we just have to know where to look for it. Freedom isn't something you "fight" for. It needs to be taught at an early age. A fundamental truth that we can and should all rally behind, peacefully through education and best practises.
The cookie cutter classrooms are great if you want obedient tax slaves willing to kill in a rich mans war everytime the media cries out for it. ——- truth
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Steve Smith16:59:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I agree. My kids are frequently bored and they take all the advanced classes the schools offer and then pursue their own learning at home. One size fits all is damaging to the majority of kids.
That’s the nature of people. There are certain skills they will need that they do not like to learn now.
That isn’t to say all schooling should be like that - this isn’t all or nothing - it is merely to suggest that sometimes, we have to learn things we don’t like.
That in itself is a learning process.
I will sum this up in one sentence: those in my school from when I was younger, that had the freedom to do whatever they gravitated toward, and were not pushed to learn certain key skills, tended to not do so well later in life.
It’s a fact - one I cannot ignore, irrespective of who suggests that my view is wrong
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Hustle Crypto17:00:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
schooling kills creativity
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Steve Smith17:00:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
schooling kills creativity
Then the methodology is wrong, not that they are schooled
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Roman CryptoLions17:01:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Furthermore I think a requirement that all votes for a law can recite it from memory would be good 🤓
nice
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:01:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
Then the methodology is wrong, not that they are schooled
Of course, this is the essence of what we are talking about when discussing unschooling. It is a methodology, not the absence of education lol
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Emma17:01:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
So what’s the suggested alternative? What’s the ideal?
Unfettered capitalism = a free market model where regulations are aimed at limiting the government and not the people; where the goal is equal opportunities and not equal outcomes.
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ian17:01:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
smiffo
Then the methodology is wrong, not that they are schooled
government schooling. the distinction needs to be clear
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Nomotoken17:02:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
schooling kills creativity
Schooling is 90% things that might help you along in your journey the rest of your life, and the remaining 10% is reserved to brainwash you the rest of your life.
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:03:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Imperfectk
Unfettered capitalism = a free market model where regulations are aimed at limiting the government and not the people; where the goal is equal opportunities and not equal outcomes.
So the ideal is to let the capitalism run freely with as little intervention as possible?
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Hustle Crypto17:03:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
So the ideal is to let the capitalism run freely with as little intervention as possible?
what could go wrong
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Steve Smith17:03:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
Of course, this is the essence of what we are talking about when discussing unschooling. It is a methodology, not the absence of education lol
I’d suggest what you have written depicts no core skills, no mandatory aspects, and people choose what they want to learn.
If that isn’t accurate, then we do agree
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:05:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Imperfectk
Unfettered capitalism = a free market model where regulations are aimed at limiting the government and not the people; where the goal is equal opportunities and not equal outcomes.
And does the government make regulations to limit itself in this model? If not - Who is limiting the government?
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CHONG, T.17:05:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
So the ideal is to let the capitalism run freely with as little intervention as possible?
anarchism is ideal
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:05:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
CHONG, T.
anarchism is ideal
Ah so we’re back to lord of the flies?
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Crypto_Crow17:06:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
You don’t get vaccines injected into your blood streams. They’re injected into soft tissue
True, although of course with the intent of it being taking up into the blood stream. With breathing or eating there is the natural immune barrier.
Didn't know about the fact that air pollution played such a big role though in the intake of aluminum, or was that research done in New Delhi 😜. Do you have a source? Would love to read more about that.
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Nomotoken17:06:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Imperfectk
Unfettered capitalism = a free market model where regulations are aimed at limiting the government and not the people; where the goal is equal opportunities and not equal outcomes.
Will never happen. Corporatism is the vogue.
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CHONG, T.17:06:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
Ah so we’re back to lord of the flies?
the lord is the government
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CHONG, T.17:06:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
we never left 😂
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:08:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
Ah so we’re back to lord of the flies?
I never attributed anarchism to that movie. There were obvious leaders in that depiction. Anarchy simply means no rulers.
lord of the flies is not an example of anarchism to me. It is a hollywood productioon that shows traumatic events in children.
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:09:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
I never attributed anarchism to that movie. There were obvious leaders in that depiction. Anarchy simply means no rulers.
lord of the flies is not an example of anarchism to me. It is a hollywood production that shows traumatic events in children.
I never saw the movie.
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:09:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Just read the book.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:10:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
Just read the book.
The book is always better ❤️
The movie is pretty trash in comparrison.
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ian17:10:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
Ah so we’re back to lord of the flies?
No, you need to learn the definition or anarchy. It means no rulers and therefore no slaves. But yes, for anarchy to bring in freedom people must have control of themselves and live according to natural law (knowing the difference between right and wrong; morality), which most people do not (a product of the system we have been brought up in, and this is by design) Internal monarchy and external anarchy (what we need to strive for) as opposed to internal anarchy and external monarchy which is what we have in the world now.
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:11:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
No, you need to learn the definition or anarchy. It means no rulers and therefore no slaves. But yes, for anarchy to bring in freedom people must have control of themselves and live according to natural law (knowing the difference between right and wrong; morality), which most people do not (a product of the system we have been brought up in, and this is by design) Internal monarchy and external anarchy (what we need to strive for) as opposed to internal anarchy and external monarchy which is what we have in the world now.
Well this is where I think the conversation does get pretty interesting - because you’re hinting at the problems being based upon the relative level of consciousness in a culture being paramount, rather than the structure itself.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:11:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I hate how mainstream always defines anarchy as "chaos" when the two have nothing to do with each other. Now we have the majority of people believing a FALSE definition of anarchy and they are naturally fearful of it.
People should embrace anarchy
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ian17:12:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
Well this is where I think the conversation does get pretty interesting - because you’re hinting at the problems being based upon the relative level of consciousness in a culture being paramount, rather than the structure itself.
yes.
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:12:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
yes.
I’m on board with that.
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ian17:12:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
the only way it can be
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:14:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
the only way it can be
Agreed. So much time is spent arguing on the “correct” way to organize “government” - or lack therefore. But it’s more of a issue of consciousness.
If we start looking at from that angle, then how can we reasonable organize within the existing paradigms to push consciousness “forward”... but then even there, pushing forward becomes subjective. How does morality, which is subjective, have defined principles that would make us a free people
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:14:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The current power structures create chaos. They need to in order to present the solutions. You think the "patriot act" was drafted in that short time after 9/11? No sweet baby jesus that shit was ready years before they decided to "pull it"
Anarchy is peace.
Anarchy is the answer.
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ian17:14:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
I’m on board with that.
The agenda seems to be make people immoral so that you can have an excuse to bring in structure which inevitably ends in totalitarianism by those who introduce the structure.
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:15:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
The current power structures create chaos. They need to in order to present the solutions. You think the "patriot act" was drafted in that short time after 9/11? No sweet baby jesus that shit was ready years before they decided to "pull it"
Anarchy is peace.
Anarchy is the answer.
Maybe peace. Maybe the answer. I don’t buy that it’s a catch all - as I’m saying, this is a consciousness problem.
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Emma17:15:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
And does the government make regulations to limit itself in this model? If not - Who is limiting the government?
One of the things that made the US constitution unique was the experiement in the concept of a restrained executive. A limited government is a possibility when you have people willing to enforce the law.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:16:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
Maybe peace. Maybe the answer. I don’t buy that it’s a catch all - as I’m saying, this is a consciousness problem.
It is indeed
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M L17:16:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
True, although of course with the intent of it being taking up into the blood stream. With breathing or eating there is the natural immune barrier.
Didn't know about the fact that air pollution played such a big role though in the intake of aluminum, or was that research done in New Delhi 😜. Do you have a source? Would love to read more about that.
Just google it, man
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ian17:16:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
Agreed. So much time is spent arguing on the “correct” way to organize “government” - or lack therefore. But it’s more of a issue of consciousness.
If we start looking at from that angle, then how can we reasonable organize within the existing paradigms to push consciousness “forward”... but then even there, pushing forward becomes subjective. How does morality, which is subjective, have defined principles that would make us a free people
Morality isnt subjective. Morality is simply living by knowing the difference between right and wrong. A right is anything that does not cause harm to another sentient being. A wrong is anything that does cause harm to another sentient being.
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M L17:16:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
True, although of course with the intent of it being taking up into the blood stream. With breathing or eating there is the natural immune barrier.
Didn't know about the fact that air pollution played such a big role though in the intake of aluminum, or was that research done in New Delhi 😜. Do you have a source? Would love to read more about that.
Aluminum is an abundant metal. It’s literally in the dirt that we grow food in
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ian17:17:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
The current power structures create chaos. They need to in order to present the solutions. You think the "patriot act" was drafted in that short time after 9/11? No sweet baby jesus that shit was ready years before they decided to "pull it"
Anarchy is peace.
Anarchy is the answer.
Project for a new american century
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:18:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
Project for a new american century
don't get me started bruh ❤️
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ian17:18:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
The current power structures create chaos. They need to in order to present the solutions. You think the "patriot act" was drafted in that short time after 9/11? No sweet baby jesus that shit was ready years before they decided to "pull it"
Anarchy is peace.
Anarchy is the answer.
Anarchy is peace, anarchy is freedom, anarchy coupled with internal monarchy of the individual.
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M L17:18:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
BG is mooning
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ian17:18:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
don't get me started bruh ❤️
I hear ya. But your point is very on point
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Emma17:18:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Nomotoken
Will never happen. Corporatism is the vogue.
Never say never. With the blockchain the prospects are brighter.
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:19:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
Morality isnt subjective. Morality is simply living by knowing the difference between right and wrong. A right is anything that does not cause harm to another sentient being. A wrong is anything that does cause harm to another sentient being.
People have a lot
Of different definitions of harm though. No?
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ian17:19:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
Anarchy is peace, anarchy is freedom, anarchy coupled with internal monarchy of the individual.
Monarchy of course meaning one ruler. Which currently the world has in the external
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Nomotoken17:19:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Imperfectk
Never say never. With the blockchain the prospects are brighter.
The momentum of the corporatists is immense.
The swift system is the chokehold.
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ian17:21:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
People have a lot
Of different definitions of harm though. No?
Yes, they think they do, cause everyone lives in moral relativism, which is also where mans laws come in, all morally relativistic. All wrongs are theft. When looked at through this lens its simple and clear cut. Basically the old adage, "dont do to others as you wouldnt want done to you" holds true.
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M L17:21:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Guys. Gambling tokens are coming back
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M L17:21:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dividends are up
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M L17:21:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Gambling boom 2.0 is incoming
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DataJunky | GenerEOS17:21:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
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ian17:22:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
great clip yes.
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Hustle Crypto17:22:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
oh boy not this vid again 😅
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Hustle Crypto17:22:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmRKExaJyhM
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Nomotoken17:24:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Imperfectk
One of the things that made the US constitution unique was the experiement in the concept of a restrained executive. A limited government is a possibility when you have people willing to enforce the law.
Some countries (if not many) can perhaps be viewed as dairy farms where the servile populace or cow's if you will, are milked to create consent to justify a mad plunder rampage around the world, and to provide labour to their esteemed overseers.
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:24:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
sacred geometry... psh
You can’t be serious ? ... this coming from someone “doing lines” off a chart with I dirty one dollar bill ? What are you bringing to the table ? Any Knowledge ? .. try to make constructive comments that add to the convo, or just stfu
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ian17:25:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
sacred geometry... psh
Nasseim Haramein - Black Whole - Documentary. I may have spelled his name wrong but its close enough
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Ryan Bethem | EOS4217:25:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
Monarchy of course meaning one ruler. Which currently the world has in the external
Hmm yea internal monarchy? I dunno. We can have our own sense of ourselves, what we want, who we are... live and love in the ways we want, ideally.
But how do you get around the fact that the external world, whether government, relationships or external forces of nature etc. simply exist.
At least the way I’m hearing you is as if you can be the ultimate king or ruler. But i think we need to work in collaboration quite a lot more than any sort of ruler... or risk being wildly disappointment and frustrated.
I’d say it’s up to us to do the best we can to live in harmony with the reality that we cannot be separate from that which exists around us, and at times must grieve the nature of our existence - we’re interconnected and in most moments can either surrender that we aren’t really a ruler of all that much, or fight.
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Emma17:25:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RyanBethem
So the ideal is to let the capitalism run freely with as little intervention as possible?
As long as the intervention is aimed at ensuring equal opportunity for all, yes.
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M L17:26:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Guys. Adoption is happening if you’re paying attention. It’s happening via gambling
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Hustle Crypto17:26:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Guys. Adoption is happening if you’re paying attention. It’s happening via gambling
meh...
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M L17:26:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Pokereos is satoshi’s vision
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M L17:26:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
meh...
You don’t use dapps?
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Hustle Crypto17:27:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I dont gamble
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:27:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
meh...
Another intelligent comment from this guy. You are obviously a troll, and you should take your comments to a tron TG group ..
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M L17:27:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
Another intelligent comment from this guy. You are obviously a troll, and you should take your comments to a tron TG group ..
Tronsters like dapps
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:27:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
I dont gamble
So what , millions of people do to the tune of billions of dollars per year
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:27:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Tronsters like dapps
Who doesn’t ? ;)
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M L17:28:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Maybe Ethereum is a better fit
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:28:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Maybe Ethereum is a better fit
Hahah ,l
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M L17:28:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There’s probably a lot of commies there too
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Don Nacho17:28:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
JcCrown
You sure you're healthy sounds like you might have brain disease
Brain disease because I trust in God and common sense prevention over FDA approved medical industry? With hints from your picture I would kick you ass at every sport .. contest ... or game ... (mental or physical ) and I’m pushing 50. I’m in SF if you ever want to meet and try to prove me wrong. 😁
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M L17:28:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
Who doesn’t ? ;)
Communists
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:28:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
There’s probably a lot of commies there too
That like to “do lines “ of TA ,,
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M L17:29:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TA is very useful
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Hustle Crypto17:29:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hahaha i see ive touched a bone here
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:29:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
TA is very useful
Yes
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M L17:29:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It is the manifestation of human emotion
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:29:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
hahaha i see ive touched a bone here
That’s what trolls do ,no?
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M L17:29:36 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Into something tangible
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:29:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It is the manifestation of human emotion
I love TA
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M L17:29:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I love different kinds of soup
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M L17:30:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Curries, bone soup, Lanzhou noodle soup, that porkbone Japanese soup
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Mike Anomaly17:30:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It is the manifestation of human emotion
FA is the root of manifestation
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:31:02 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
I love TA
is this turning in to the new FC or something?
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M L17:31:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Soup is the best food, imo
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M L17:31:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Even beer is a kind of soup
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:31:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
is this turning in to the new FC or something?
Over my head , what is FC ?
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:31:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Even beer is a kind of soup
Yes ! I love cheese soup with Guinness
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M L17:32:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Cheese soup?
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Hustle Crypto17:32:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
You can’t be serious ? ... this coming from someone “doing lines” off a chart with I dirty one dollar bill ? What are you bringing to the table ? Any Knowledge ? .. try to make constructive comments that add to the convo, or just stfu
I see your serious about bringing "quality content here"
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:33:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bonz_manifest
Over my head , what is FC ?
exactly. Well done.
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M L17:34:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Guys. Pokereos is satoshi’s vision
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Bonz Manifest | EOSart.io | Manifest Glassworks17:36:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
exactly. Well done.
🙌🤷♂️
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Daniel Larimer17:36:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Nomotoken
Schooling is 90% things that might help you along in your journey the rest of your life, and the remaining 10% is reserved to brainwash you the rest of your life.
I think it’s backwards. Lol
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Hustle Crypto17:38:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They should teach meditation in schools
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Daniel Larimer17:38:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
They should teach meditation in schools
That should be taught by parents
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Dmac17:39:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think it’s backwards. Lol
Yes 90% indoctrination
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Hustle Crypto17:39:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
That should be taught by parents
not everyone is born into great parents
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M L17:39:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
That should be taught by parents
Dan, what’s ur favorite gambling dapp?
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Hustle Crypto17:39:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
even decent...
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Daniel Larimer17:39:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The subtle ways my daughters are indoctrinated is sickening
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Daniel Larimer17:39:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Dan, what’s ur favorite gambling dapp?
Never tried any
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:40:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The subtle ways my daughters are indoctrinated is sickening
most of us went thru it. It's disgusting.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:40:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
didn't learn how to think or create value
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Hustle Crypto17:40:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
most of us went thru it. It's disgusting.
gotta go threw it to grow out of it
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Dmac17:40:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So the feminist movement put women into the workforce so they could be taxed. Also destroys the family unit
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:40:39 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
So the feminist movement put women into the workforce so they could be taxed. Also destroys the family unit
100%
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Daniel Larimer17:40:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
most of us went thru it. It's disgusting.
What’s worse is they have her indoctrinating her peers because she’s a leader.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:40:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
gotta go threw it to grow out of it
wrong. Don't subject kids to 13 years of propaganda.
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Dmac17:40:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The state now raise children
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:41:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
What’s worse is they have her indoctrinating her peers because she’s a leader.
totally get it. I was the student asked to teach other students in school.
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Dmac17:41:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Propaganda cycle complete
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Daniel Larimer17:41:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They take her to special classes to then go back to present to her peers
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Daniel Larimer17:42:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Prejudice training.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:42:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
They take her to special classes to then go back to present to her peers
and it's probably US history or "social studies" that she's being asked to teach.
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Dmac17:42:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Worship authority is the goal
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Dmac17:42:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Obvious to any critical thinker
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:43:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
too bad their mother wants to send them to public school. A real travesty.
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Dmac17:44:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I went to public school. Most teachers were dumber than me as a kid
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |17:44:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
Sounds a little like anarchy, which is a romantic concept, but like communism I believe it only works in ivory towers.
In anarchy no one would volunteer to be in the army. Works great until an authoritarian country that isn't so free sees your ungaurded border. Glass Kingdoms don't stand for long.
"... in anarchy, no one would volunteer to be in the army..."
So, you support conscription.
A society that cannot be defended voluntarily is in fact a society not worth defending.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:44:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hi @freedomengineer :)
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:44:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
hi Troi! Nice to see another #buildfreedom person
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Daniel Larimer17:45:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There is a very real prisoner dilemma with free society
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Dmac17:45:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
US constitution mandates a malitia against tyranny
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:46:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
There is a very real prisoner dilemma with free society
care to go on?
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Hustle Crypto17:46:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
There is a very real prisoner dilemma with free society
and a very real divorce from economizing natural resources, with the economy...
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Dmac17:46:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan knows but has to be careful
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Daniel Larimer17:46:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Individual interests undermine group interests.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |17:47:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
hi Troi! Nice to see another #buildfreedom person
If we start to get out numbered by statists let's fork. ;)
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Dmac17:47:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Fuck oath
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:47:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
If we start to get out numbered by statists let's fork. ;)
we will. EOS mainnet is far too decentralized.
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Bluejays 🇨🇦 | HireVibes17:48:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
They take her to special classes to then go back to present to her peers
I’m sure in the end your influence will win out.
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Dmac17:48:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
we will. EOS mainnet is far too decentralized.
Good ideas can’t be stopped in the long term
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |17:48:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto would not even have been invented without romantic thinking anarchists lolz
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Max Infeld17:48:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Any ideas to overlay new paradigm methods to "fix" the status quo?
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:49:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
Crypto would not even have been invented without romantic thinking anarchists lolz
a romance with freedom
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Nomotoken17:49:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I think it’s backwards. Lol
Truth is lies
War is peace
Good is evil
10 is 90...
..........
.....
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:49:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
and knowing how capital forms, consensus is created and networks are built
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |17:49:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
There is a very real prisoner dilemma with free society
Yes please expand...
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:50:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
it doens't surpsise me at all that the most robust and best blockchain was invented by someone w/ an Austro, ancap background.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:50:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
thx again, Dan.
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Daniel Larimer17:50:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
For example if everyone who loves freedom and was sick of corruption stood up and too personal risks we would have a revolution overnight. But prisoners dilemma causes everyone to look after their personal freedom never mind the short sightedness
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Bruise Drone17:51:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
For example if everyone who loves freedom and was sick of corruption stood up and too personal risks we would have a revolution overnight. But prisoners dilemma causes everyone to look after their personal freedom never mind the short sightedness
it‘s easy doing that with a billion dollars in a bank account 🤪
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:51:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
For example if everyone who loves freedom and was sick of corruption stood up and too personal risks we would have a revolution overnight. But prisoners dilemma causes everyone to look after their personal freedom never mind the short sightedness
does the "selfish" journey towards personal freedom not [eventually] create a wider adoption of freedom?
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Daniel Larimer17:51:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
it‘s easy doing that with a billion dollars in a bank account 🤪
It’s harder. More to lose
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Dmac17:51:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
For example if everyone who loves freedom and was sick of corruption stood up and too personal risks we would have a revolution overnight. But prisoners dilemma causes everyone to look after their personal freedom never mind the short sightedness
People...unfortunately need a leader
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Joseph Pitluck | FreeRan.ge17:51:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It’s harder. More to lose
Proof of Stake
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:52:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
People...unfortunately need a leader
my Dentist is a leader in my life. Not a ruler, but a leader.
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Dmac17:53:02 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ashe_Oro
my Dentist is a leader in my life. Not a ruler, but a leader.
I wish everyone was like us but the vast majority don’t want to think
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Daniel Larimer17:53:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
I wish everyone was like us but the vast majority don’t want to think
Thinking is hard. Ignorance is bliss.., until it isn’t.
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Hustle Crypto17:53:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
I wish everyone was like us but the vast majority don’t want to think
their brains are poisioned with lectins, grains and sugar.
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Don Nacho17:53:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
it‘s easy doing that with a billion dollars in a bank account 🤪
MUCH harder to do with $$. The minimum wage workers should be leading the revolution in theory. But the mind control and instilled fear (and complacency) is extremely strong
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Dmac17:53:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We need to hijack the system
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Daniel Larimer17:54:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The system will function until it can on longer provide bread and circuses
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:54:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
We need to hijack the system
or just build our own?
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:54:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The system will function until it can on longer provide bread and circuses
food stamps and the super bowl are still alive and well, Dan.
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MaxDapp17:54:46 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaNx7ad3RhI
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Don Nacho17:55:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
The subtle ways my daughters are indoctrinated is sickening
This must be rough. How do you counteract this?
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Dmac17:55:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Thinking is hard. Ignorance is bliss.., until it isn’t.
Gerald Celente said: when people have nothing left to lose they lose it
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Daniel Larimer17:55:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Once it the infrastructure breaks down it is cascade failure
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Daniel Larimer17:55:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
Gerald Celente said: when people have nothing left to lose they lose it
And until they lose it they sit infront of tv.
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio17:55:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
or vote harder
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Benny Big17:55:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Look who is here
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Benny Big17:55:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
:)
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Dmac17:56:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
And until they lose it they sit infront of tv.
Unfortunate truth
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Mike Anomaly17:56:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It’s harder. More to lose
I wish i had more to lose. Thats a problem i wouldng mind dealing with.
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Benny Big17:56:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I just want to know who Dan thinks will sit on the Iron throne in the end
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Benny Big17:56:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
He must be a huge fan
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Dmac17:56:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Suck being early
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Jorge Rubio17:56:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dan any new Ad from Block.one coming out at the beginning of the month for #B1JUNE?
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Daniel Larimer17:57:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bennybig
I just want to know who Dan thinks will sit on the Iron throne in the end
I think that would make an amazing toilet.
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Benny Big17:57:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Haha yes
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Benny Big17:57:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
When we moon I am getting that
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Benny Big17:57:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
This is why I love Dan :)
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Mike Anomaly17:58:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
That toilet will send your date home
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Dmac17:58:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Seams spiky
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Mike Anomaly17:58:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Only date that will stay is a game of throne fan
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |17:59:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
For example if everyone who loves freedom and was sick of corruption stood up and too personal risks we would have a revolution overnight. But prisoners dilemma causes everyone to look after their personal freedom never mind the short sightedness
What if people could pledge anonymously into a peaceful revolution that would happen at a predetermined date in the future... where everyone agrees to allow others to do whatever they want and pay their own way and so on... but if 80% of the population does not agree, the pledges stay anonymous and the revolt does not happen. Harmonized civil disobedience. Everyone stands together or nothing happens. But their is no scouts with arrows in their backs.
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Benny Big17:59:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Thats the only type of date u want
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Mike Anomaly17:59:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bennybig
Thats the only type of date u want
I like to keep my options open
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Don Nacho17:59:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bennybig
I just want to know who Dan thinks will sit on the Iron throne in the end
GOT jumped the shark when they brought Jon snow back to life imo. Aweful. Imagine the sopranos bring their best characters back to life? Lack of imagination
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io17:59:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
"... in anarchy, no one would volunteer to be in the army..."
So, you support conscription.
A society that cannot be defended voluntarily is in fact a society not worth defending.
Not at all, but a standing army is not free, and who would volunteer to pay for one in peace? Once you are invaded, it's too late to volunteer.
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DApp City18:01:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hi, Im a little behind on current news with eos.. Is the Rex up and running yet? and if so, are there video tutorials on how it works? Thanks..
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Daniel Larimer18:01:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
You cannot conquer a country without a centralized governance structure
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Benny Big18:01:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
GOT jumped the shark when they brought Jon snow back to life imo. Aweful. Imagine the sopranos bring their best characters back to life? Lack of imagination
Idk I think they will surprise us. I think Little Finger is pulling all the strings and ends up on the thrones
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:01:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You cannot conquer a country without a centralized governance structure
Can you defend one?
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Ashe Oro - EOS Radio18:02:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
Can you defend one?
and would one actually exist in the scope and scale that we currently see
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Daniel Larimer18:02:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
Can you defend one?
It would be gorilla war like Afghanistan
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Franco18:03:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Once it the infrastructure breaks down it is cascade failure
Do you think the US is the safest place to live when it comes to these kinds of events?
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Hustle Crypto18:03:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
fjmocke
Do you think the US is the safest place to live when it comes to these kinds of events?
most definetely not hah
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Daniel Larimer18:03:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
fjmocke
Do you think the US is the safest place to live when it comes to these kinds of events?
Who knows. Being a expat might be worse.
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Dmac18:03:39 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Solution:
The 1% make the 10% get it then then the rest follow
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Don Nacho18:03:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bennybig
Idk I think they will surprise us. I think Little Finger is pulling all the strings and ends up on the thrones
Hate to tell you but unless they also resurrect him that’s not happening.
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Franco18:04:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who knows. Being a expat might be worse.
I'm in the middle of nowhere in Zambia. Feel quite safe here 😜
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Daniel Larimer18:04:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Don’t ruin got people
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Dmac18:04:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It would be gorilla war like Afghanistan
At least trump defending the #2
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Bruise Drone18:04:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Don’t ruin got people
whats got? new eos dapp?
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nsjames | Scatter18:05:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lol
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Green Orange | joon moon soon18:05:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
whats got? new eos dapp?
game of thrones?
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Franco18:05:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
most definetely not hah
Where would you rather live?
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Bruise Drone18:05:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
log_insight
game of thrones?
what kind of games? new gambling dapp?
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Steven18:05:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
what kind of games? new gambling dapp?
Lol
It’s a TV show
HC
Hustle Crypto18:05:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
fjmocke
Where would you rather live?
antartica, with 6 hookers and a giant green house
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Dmac18:06:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Lol
What you laughing at?
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Bruise Drone18:06:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
beeteesee
Lol
It’s a TV show
on EOS?
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Franco18:06:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
antartica, with 6 hookers and a giant green house
I can't even handle one wife. But the greenhouse sounds awesome
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Green Orange | joon moon soon18:06:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
what kind of games? new gambling dapp?
it's about hunting people who live under a rock
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nsjames | Scatter18:06:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
What you laughing at?
Trolls
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Bruise Drone18:06:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
log_insight
it's about hunting people who live under a rock
jesus, that sounds boring
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Dmac18:06:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We need to meet in person. Online is for geeks
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Bruise Drone18:06:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
We need to meet in person. Online is for geeks
to a fist fight?
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Green Orange | joon moon soon18:07:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
jesus, that sounds boring
it's not cos jesus is there
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PaulyC18:07:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Throne Games on EOS
BD
Bruise Drone18:07:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
log_insight
it's not cos jesus is there
my jesus is in here..
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Dmac18:07:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
to a fist fight?
Let’s do it🤣
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:07:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
It would be gorilla war like Afghanistan
I prefer a centralized defence strategy with a navy and missile defense systems 😂. As you often say, full decentralization is only appropriate in certain cases. I'm all for non violence, but show me any civilization that has lasted that doesn't defend itself using some form of tax.
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Mike Anomaly18:07:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
When new wife?
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Benny Big18:07:39 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
GOT is moving to the EOS network?
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Bruise Drone18:07:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
bennybig
GOT is moving to the EOS network?
apparently.. new gambling dapp
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shieldy_bot18:07:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
John Slovensky, please, press the button below within the time amount specified, otherwise you will be kicked. Thank you! (60 sec)
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Mike Anomaly18:08:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Goat & sheeps moving to eos network
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Bruise Drone18:08:28 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
Let’s do it🤣
1on1 or can i bring my nephew with me?
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Dmac18:08:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Cryptoloser2018
Goat & sheeps moving to eos network
Leaders also
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Benny Big18:08:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Settlers on the EOS network
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Benny Big18:08:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There is an idea
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Dmac18:09:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
1on1 or can i bring my nephew with me?
Fuck it I’ll fight up to five
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The Third 🇬🇧18:09:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
I did not know much about him and I feel happy to discover he's not only a great engineer but also a real free thinker. It makes me even more confident that eos is in good hands
great comment and outlook.
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Bruise Drone18:09:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
Fuck it I’ll fight up to five
sadly i only have one vaccinated nephew 🥺
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |18:10:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
I prefer a centralized defence strategy with a navy and missile defense systems 😂. As you often say, full decentralization is only appropriate in certain cases. I'm all for non violence, but show me any civilization that has lasted that doesn't defend itself using some form of tax.
Show me the first airplane.
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Dmac18:10:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
sadly i only have one vaccinated nephew 🥺
You’re fucked then. I’m not up to date
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |18:10:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Let's just build it.
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Mike Anomaly18:10:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Rdn2tm
I did not know much about him and I feel happy to discover he's not only a great engineer but also a real free thinker. It makes me even more confident that eos is in good hands
As long as womens dont get between the engineers there wont be chaos
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nsjames | Scatter18:10:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
sadly i only have one vaccinated nephew 🥺
Hey, don't bring diseases to a knife fight.
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nsjames | Scatter18:11:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Not fair bro.
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Jc Crown18:11:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
Brain disease because I trust in God and common sense prevention over FDA approved medical industry? With hints from your picture I would kick you ass at every sport .. contest ... or game ... (mental or physical ) and I’m pushing 50. I’m in SF if you ever want to meet and try to prove me wrong. 😁
We dont have to meet to game, we can use the internet. :)
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The Third 🇬🇧18:11:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AnArchOnIst
thought this stuff about questioning was kooky to you?
in your head that comment makes sense to you...im thinking you might be a bit thick.
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Dmac18:11:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Hey, don't bring diseases to a knife fight.
🤣
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Dmac18:11:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Got em all
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nsjames | Scatter18:12:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
Brain disease because I trust in God and common sense prevention over FDA approved medical industry? With hints from your picture I would kick you ass at every sport .. contest ... or game ... (mental or physical ) and I’m pushing 50. I’m in SF if you ever want to meet and try to prove me wrong. 😁
Ever heard the one about god and the guy on the raft in the middle of the ocean?
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:12:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
Show me the first airplane.
You live in Canada, our Airforce intercepts Russian jets on our borders on a monthly basis. Our claim on the north pole and the resources there slips away by the day.
No one is voluntarily donating money to the Airforce. Even with our ridiculous tax rate, our military is joke. Thank god for big brother USA or we'd be annexed tomorrow.
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Mike Anomaly18:12:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Hey, don't bring diseases to a knife fight.
U would change the weapon of choice to a pitch fork for distance
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Hustle Crypto18:12:34 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Ever heard the one about god and the guy on the raft in the middle of the ocean?
i sent you a plane? a boat? ect?
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nsjames | Scatter18:12:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
FakeNewsCounterfeiter
i sent you a plane? a boat? ect?
Yup
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Bruise Drone18:12:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Ever heard the one about god and the guy on the raft in the middle of the ocean?
does it work with scatter?
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Hustle Crypto18:12:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
does it work with scatter?
lol
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nsjames | Scatter18:13:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
does it work with scatter?
Doesn't everything? (Or nothing, depending on hyperV enabled)
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Dmac18:13:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Like a goana
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Bruise Drone18:13:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Doesn't everything? (Or nothing, depending on hyperV enabled)
yes.. scatter is fucking amazing, hands down
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Nomotoken18:13:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
For example if everyone who loves freedom and was sick of corruption stood up and too personal risks we would have a revolution overnight. But prisoners dilemma causes everyone to look after their personal freedom never mind the short sightedness
That would require an opinion based on historical knowledge of how events society has evolved and been manipulated in this glomarized World.
Not many millennials are that inquisitive.
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Dmac18:14:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Do you mofos no what time is is here??
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Don Nacho18:14:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Ever heard the one about god and the guy on the raft in the middle of the ocean?
yes i have. not saying i distrust every doctor. i'm sure most mean well but in the US at least they are simply products of big pharma - to put it simply: pill pushers. They treat / never cure. Curing is not profitable. Even steve jobs knew this— though he didnt' beat it on his own.
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Nomotoken18:14:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
Do you mofos no what time is is here??
Yes, it is now.
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Bruise Drone18:14:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
Do you mofos no what time is is here??
tshirt time?
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Dmac18:14:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Wish I could share a pic
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nsjames | Scatter18:15:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
yes i have. not saying i distrust every doctor. i'm sure most mean well but in the US at least they are simply products of big pharma - to put it simply: pill pushers. They treat / never cure. Curing is not profitable. Even steve jobs knew this— though he didnt' beat it on his own.
Err, he didn't beat it period.
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:15:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
Show me the first airplane.
Communism fails in practice because the individual is ignored.
Anarchism fails in practice because the collective is ignore. What works is somewhere in between.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |18:15:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
You live in Canada, our Airforce intercepts Russian jets on our borders on a monthly basis. Our claim on the north pole and the resources there slips away by the day.
No one is voluntarily donating money to the Airforce. Even with our ridiculous tax rate, our military is joke. Thank god for big brother USA or we'd be annexed tomorrow.
The communists already got us from within Haley.
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Don Nacho18:16:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Err, he didn't beat it period.
right... none of us beat death though in the long run - so there's that. but don't you find it interesting that guys like jobs, guys like dan - they seem to have implicit distrust of medical industry. -perhaps guys you look up to.
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Bruise Drone18:16:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
apparently to make disappear, we have to talk about got
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nsjames | Scatter18:17:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
right... none of us beat death though in the long run - so there's that. but don't you find it interesting that guys like jobs, guys like dan - they seem to have implicit distrust of medical industry? -perhaps guys you look up to.
Mm, I think we tend to look to where our head is already turned.
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Dmac18:18:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
right... none of us beat death though in the long run - so there's that. but don't you find it interesting that guys like jobs, guys like dan - they seem to have implicit distrust of medical industry? -perhaps guys you look up to.
The ‘system ‘ is beyond corrupt to anyone who is willing to look
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Don Nacho18:18:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Mm, I think we tend to look to where our head is already turned.
then keep looking where you're looking. i will continue to look my way— as i said i'm nearly 50 and never been on a medication. good genes? maybe.
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nsjames | Scatter18:18:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There's plenty of thoughts and theories in both directions. We gravitate to those which align to our own beliefs for the most part unless provided with irrefutable proof, and even then..
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |18:18:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
Communism fails in practice because the individual is ignored.
Anarchism fails in practice because the collective is ignore. What works is somewhere in between.
I get it... accept 80% theft to protect against 98% theft and enslavement. It's a sound argument.
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Don Nacho18:18:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
The ‘system ‘ is beyond corrupt to anyone who is willing to look
i would say insidious
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Hustle Crypto18:19:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
There's plenty of thoughts and theories in both directions. We gravitate to those which align to our own beliefs for the most part unless provided with irrefutable proof, and even then..
and even then trump supporters still support trump
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Dmac18:19:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
i would say insidious
I’m not one for the savior but trump seems to be on our side
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nsjames | Scatter18:20:02 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
I’m not one for the savior but trump seems to be on our side
"Our" is subjective
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Don Nacho18:20:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
There's plenty of thoughts and theories in both directions. We gravitate to those which align to our own beliefs for the most part unless provided with irrefutable proof, and even then..
i think filters are needed. like would i go to the ER to get my broken arm set and put in a cast. YES! I would. If i was diagnosed with some type of cancer would i go on chemo- absolutely never.
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Bruise Drone18:20:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
I’m not one for the savior but trump seems to be on our side
is trump in got?
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John Slovensky18:20:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
You cannot conquer a country without a centralized governance structure
You cannot conquer a country which does not have a centralized government structure.
Or
You cannot conquer a country without installing a centralized government structure.
I would argue that the latter alone is correct.
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nsjames | Scatter18:20:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
AsianMogul
is trump in got?
Yes, he's the little king that got poisoned.
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Dmac18:20:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
"Our" is subjective
Not really. The good guys
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Don Nacho18:20:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
I’m not one for the savior but trump seems to be on our side
trump is a zionist puppet.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |18:21:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Oceana will always be at war with Eurasia.... ;)
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nsjames | Scatter18:21:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The hell is a Zionist?
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Bruise Drone18:21:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Yes, he's the little king that got poisoned.
stop spoiling please
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nsjames | Scatter18:22:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
i think filters are needed. like would i go to the ER to get my broken arm set and put in a cast. YES! I would. If i was diagnosed with some type of cancer would i go on chemo- absolutely never.
I mean.. chemo does actually have benefits. It can also be absolutely terrible.
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:22:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
I get it... accept 80% theft to protect against 98% theft and enslavement. It's a sound argument.
I'm all for smaller government, slashing spending and removing red tape. I think our tax dollars are being wasted in a million ways. But I don't know of any civilization that ever lasted that didn't have something resembling a tax and a central government.
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nsjames | Scatter18:22:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dying to cancer with or without chemo is terrible.
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Dmac18:22:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
trump is a zionist puppet.
I’m a sceptic not a cynic
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nsjames | Scatter18:23:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Refusal for treatment of a terminal disease seems like refusal for a chance though.
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nsjames | Scatter18:23:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Do you want 20% chance to live, or 0?
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nsjames | Scatter18:23:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
How about 1% or 0?
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Don Nacho18:23:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
I mean.. chemo does actually have benefits. It can also be absolutely terrible.
apparently there are many alternative cures for cancer that have been supressed. the info also gets supressed and ridiculed. need to pay attention to whatever the powers that shouldn't be are fearful of. public best interest is never their real goal.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS18:23:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/Rocket_Battles/status/1121957166771003394
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Dmac18:24:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
How about 1% or 0?
Trump is genius too
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Don Nacho18:24:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
I’m a sceptic not a cynic
lol look at his own family, his tree of life awards, his success in zionist pit of NYC, his cabinet and appointees. It's not hard to see.
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nsjames | Scatter18:25:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
apparently there are many alternative cures for cancer that have been supressed. the info also gets supressed and ridiculed. need to pay attention to whatever the powers that shouldn't be are fearful of. public best interest is never their real goal.
Most people with cancer don't stop trying things at chemo. The will to live is powerful, and generally they do any and everything they can.
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Troi Bryan | BEAN Token Economy |18:25:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
I'm all for smaller government, slashing spending and removing red tape. I think our tax dollars are being wasted in a million ways. But I don't know of any civilization that ever lasted that didn't have something resembling a tax and a central government.
And at one time there was not flying machines. So what? What I am saying is that we will one day construct free civilizations without coercive use of force. It is romantic and dreamy and really hard to imagine how they can exist. But that's an objective I support.
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Don Nacho18:25:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Most people with cancer don't stop trying things at chemo. The will to live is powerful, and generally they do any and everything they can.
i'd disagree. most people will only do what their insurance allows them to and what is FDA approved. I speak as amerikan
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DataJunky | GenerEOS18:26:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Refusal for treatment of a terminal disease seems like refusal for a chance though.
Exploring options should be paramount. Taking a round of chemo could save a life or it can take a life. Everyone is different, and everyone should explore options that suit their personal needs.
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nsjames | Scatter18:26:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
i'd disagree. most people will only do what their insurance allows them to and what is FDA approved. I speak as amerikan
Are we talking about experimental treatments here or like.. garlic cloves?
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Robert McBalderson18:27:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
I'm all for smaller government, slashing spending and removing red tape. I think our tax dollars are being wasted in a million ways. But I don't know of any civilization that ever lasted that didn't have something resembling a tax and a central government.
Ancient ireland, Zomia region. There are others.
No modern ones. But just because humans have done something for a long time doesnt make it right. Otherwise we’d still be nlood letting and sacrificing people
To calm the sky gods.
We are ready for no centralized government. We have the tools
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Dmac18:27:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
lol look at his own family, his tree of life awards, his success in zionist pit of NYC, his cabinet and appointees. It's not hard to see.
My take is they thought they could use him to crash the system and blame capitalism but he way smarter than them. 3 D chess
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Jc Crown18:27:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Datajunky
Exploring options should be paramount. Taking a round of chemo could save a life or it can take a life. Everyone is different, and everyone should explore options that suit their personal needs.
👏👏
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Don Nacho18:27:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Are we talking about experimental treatments here or like.. garlic cloves?
"experimental" this is subjective. this TERM is defined and conditioned by the USA govt. aka FDA and propaganda. What makes it experimental or not?
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Dmac18:27:39 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Lefties are dumb fucks
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nsjames | Scatter18:27:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
"experimental" this is subjective. this TERM is defined and conditioned by the USA govt. aka FDA and propaganda. What makes it experimental or not?
I don't live in the US.
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nsjames | Scatter18:28:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Experimental is different everywhere.
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Don Nacho18:28:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
My take is they thought they could use him to crash the system and blame capitalism but he way smarter than them. 3 D chess
the only one he's playing 3D chess on are guys like you- Sorry.
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Don Nacho18:28:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
I don't live in the US.
what is allowed in your country. people go to prison here for straying from the FDA.
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John Slovensky18:28:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Just because it hasn’t happened before does not negatively impact the probability of its occurrence.
People in 2012 used the same appeal to precedent to discredit bitcoin. Aren’t they sorry?
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Don Nacho18:28:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
steel cages for experimental types
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nsjames | Scatter18:29:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The second things are allowed here that are allowed in the US, for the most part.
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Dmac18:29:14 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
the only one he's playing 3D chess on are guys like you- Sorry.
Dude I’m a Gemini too. Im thinking of many scenarios
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Don Nacho18:29:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
eeooss
Dude I’m a Gemini too. Im thinking of many scenarios
oh ok then this makes sense now. lol
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Nomotoken18:29:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
I'm all for smaller government, slashing spending and removing red tape. I think our tax dollars are being wasted in a million ways. But I don't know of any civilization that ever lasted that didn't have something resembling a tax and a central government.
I know of no civilisation/empire that lasted with or without tax.
They all declined and the first signs of that decline was depreciation of the currency of that civilisation/empire via hyper printing (or minting) the currency.
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nsjames | Scatter18:29:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Some things are just due to progress. Can't go around giving people killer drugs to try and save lives. Even in terminal patients. It's just not ethical (by current standards)
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Don Nacho18:30:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
The same things are allowed here that are allowed in the US, for the most part.
i think you should research cancer cures and the pioneers that have had their lives ruined for going against the pharmaceutically controlled FDA.
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Don Nacho18:30:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Some things are just due to process. Can't go around giving people killer drugs to try and save lives. Even in terminal patients. It's just not ethical (by current standards)
killer drugs? ok... look you have some research to do if you're serious about this.
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nsjames | Scatter18:30:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
i think you should research cancer cures and the pioneers that have had their lives ruined for going against the pharmaceutically controlled FDA.
My mother passed of cancer 20 years ago. I've kept my eyes on research ever since. It's not anything new to me.
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nsjames | Scatter18:32:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There are dangerous experimental procedures and safer alternatives. Some are proving effective for certain types of cancers and others aren't. Process is important though. Can't solve everything in a few years.
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nsjames | Scatter18:32:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And really, 20 years is nothing.
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Don Nacho18:32:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
My mother passed of cancer 20 years ago. I've kept my eyes on research ever since. It's not anything new to me.
i don't claim to know what works. but we know many things that are FDA approved definitley do not work... there are alternatives out there that get shamed, ridiculed, and made illegal. this isn't in my wheelhouse though of consipiracy theories.... i just know it looks and smells real bad
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Don Nacho18:32:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
There are dangerous experimental procedures and safer alternatives. Some are proving effective for certain types of cancers and others aren't. Process is important though. Can't solve everything in a few years.
sure but should it be the right of a government to say : YOU CAN'T TAKE THIS! EVER!!!
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Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:33:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
i don't claim to know what works. but we know many things that are FDA approved definitley do not work... there are alternatives out there that get shamed, ridiculed, and made illegal. this isn't in my wheelhouse though of consipiracy theories.... i just know it looks and smells real bad
Just because they do not save every person does not mean they do not work
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Don Nacho18:33:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
And really, 20 years is nothing.
sorry about your mom btw.
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Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:33:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They statistically increase your chance to live
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nsjames | Scatter18:34:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
There's definitely some pitfalls to the way our testing of these things goes right now, but it's so damn complicated due to politics. The future is bright.
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nsjames | Scatter18:34:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
syed_jafri
They statistically increase your chance to live
And this is the important and sad part. Like schools we end up doing what is statistically proven for the majority, even if the minority would benefit elsewhere.
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nsjames | Scatter18:35:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
sorry about your mom btw.
Long time, closed wounds ❤️
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Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:35:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Personalized medicine is being worked on, baby steps 🙂
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Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:35:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Cancer therapy is already personalized is many advanced countries
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Don Nacho18:35:40 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
also recent 'conspiracy' theory relating to this type of stuff is the recent death of Nipsey Hussle. was in process of doing documentary on Dr Sebi. Nipsy is dead now. Can we say for sure this wasn't related to the doc? Let's not be naive.
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Syed | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:35:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Your biopsies are tested against multiple drugs
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nsjames | Scatter18:35:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
syed_jafri
Personalized medicine is being worked on, baby steps 🙂
Yup, and that's why I think it's great the way we're doing it currently. A few will suffer, some even close to us, but we are actually making progress, even if it's being hindered by process and pharma
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Don Nacho18:36:39 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Long time, closed wounds ❤️
time - the ultimate healer for sure. 🙏
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nsjames | Scatter18:36:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And lots of weed.
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Don Nacho18:37:07 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lol
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nsjames | Scatter18:37:27 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Actually, weed is the perfect example of the turning off tides.
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nsjames | Scatter18:37:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Now that governments are realizing how beneficial it can be to legalize it, it's slowly happening.
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Don Nacho18:38:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
And lots of weed.
but let's hope that the big pharma doesnt' take control of this. the little farmers here in NorCal are already getting squeezed out of the biz. 420 has never been cheaper.... that's not necessarily a good sign either.
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io18:39:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Nomotoken
I know of no civilisation/empire that lasted with or without tax.
They all declined and the first signs of that decline was depreciation of the currency of that civilisation/empire via hyper printing (or minting) the currency.
Touche. I would say that those that managed to "write history" certainly had a few things in common though. Redistribution of wealth being a big one.
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nsjames | Scatter18:40:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
but let's hope that the big pharma doesnt' take control of this. the little farmers here in NorCal are already getting squeezed out of the biz. 420 has never been cheaper.... that's not necessarily a good sign either.
Kinda hard to say if that's a bad thing yet.
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Don Nacho18:40:56 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Kinda hard to say if that's a bad thing yet.
would you rather buy your weed from joe the weed farmer - or from Dupont?
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nsjames | Scatter18:41:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
would you rather buy your weed from joe the weed farmer - or from Dupont?
Said no stoner ever.
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nsjames | Scatter18:42:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They used to grow weed by bending it into the sand here in Israel ten years ago. It was filthy, dry, crappy stuff.
Sold every ounce.
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Nomotoken18:42:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
tokenomiks
Touche. I would say that those that managed to "write history" certainly had a few things in common though. Redistribution of wealth being a big one.
I like the quoted.. it is indeed so.
We are tended from cradle to grave to bray in unison n the same tone.
Those that change tone invariably face the chop (figuratively speaking).
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Don Nacho18:42:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
btw just an aside.... speaking of dupont... please anyone using tephlon pans here look into dupont and tephlon and make the switch to cast iron. Let me tell you — once you have it seasoned they are awesome ! like non stick — but last forever AND here's the kicker - i'm not sure why or how this happens but the food tastes incrible out of them!!!
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nsjames | Scatter18:43:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ok, work. ❤️ later
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Don Nacho18:43:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
peace out . me too. have a good day all.
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Nomotoken18:43:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
btw just an aside.... speaking of dupont... please anyone using tephlon pans here look into dupont and tephlon and make the switch to cast iron. Let me tell you — once you have it seasoned they are awesome ! like non stick — but last forever AND here's the kicker - i'm not sure why or how this happens but the food tastes incredible out of them!!!
Only reason teflon never got banned is because it's Dupont.
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Don Nacho18:45:08 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
cast iron makes food taste increble- gives you trace amounts of iron and LAST FOREVER- as in family heirlooms! No wonder why these things are almost a secret. Can't sell forever lasting products.
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Nomotoken18:45:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
cast iron makes food taste incredible- gives you trace amounts of iron and LAST FOREVER- as in family heirlooms! No wonder why these things are almost a secret. Can't replace and resell over and over forever lasting products.
True
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Dmac18:45:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Nighty night 💋
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Crypto_Crow18:45:57 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Aluminum is an abundant metal. It’s literally in the dirt that we grow food in
Exactly my point. In the dirt it does less harm then when it passes the blood brain barrier. Especially with young children and babies this is a problem this is highly underestimated
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DApp City18:46:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Is Rex up and running yet?
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Nomotoken18:46:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TeamDAppCity
Is Rex up and running yet?
Not yet
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Nomotoken18:47:02 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Very close.
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS18:47:06 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
btw just an aside.... speaking of dupont... please anyone using tephlon pans here look into dupont and tephlon and make the switch to cast iron. Let me tell you — once you have it seasoned they are awesome ! like non stick — but last forever AND here's the kicker - i'm not sure why or how this happens but the food tastes incredible out of them!!!
I love my cast iron cookware ❤️
The good stuff is expensive (and heavy), but like you say, it lasts forever 🙂
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS18:47:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
So you only need to buy it once
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Nomotoken18:47:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
I love my cast iron cookware ❤️
The good stuff is expensive (and heavy), but like you say, it lasts forever 🙂
Don't let the good wife near it if she's mad at you.
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS18:48:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Haha
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS18:48:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Would probably try and put it in the dishwasher
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS18:48:30 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
😄
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS18:49:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Never put your cast iron cookware in the dishwasher
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS18:50:41 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Come to EOS Telegram for EOS info and leave with medical advice and cookware tips 😂
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Don Nacho18:51:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
Come to EOS Telegram for EOS info and leave with medical advice and cookware tips 😂
😂😂
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The Third 🇬🇧18:51:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
...its deliberate diversion
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The Third 🇬🇧18:51:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
its a ploy to dsmpen the b1joon mania
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The Third 🇬🇧18:52:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
🤡
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Don Nacho18:53:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We can agree disagree on medical industry and procedures but cast iron pans — nah that’s not debatable. 😁😂
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Dmac18:59:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
We can agree disagree on medical industry and procedures but cast iron pans — nah that’s not debatable. 😁😂
Who uses cast iron ffs? You know there is ceramic coating now right?
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Dmac19:01:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Seriously man , trying to help
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Ashok Poojary19:01:04 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Join for Binance News
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEHzmGRQRoLaAWITVQ
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Ernie D.19:01:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Why are block producer not voting to reduce inflations
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Ernie D.19:01:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They are saying why either
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Ernie D.19:02:16 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They are not even saying why they wont vote
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Luka Percic19:02:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dickystar
Why are block producer not voting to reduce inflations
because that would reduce their pay by 3%
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Ernie D.19:02:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
because that would reduce their pay by 3%
their pay is 1%
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Ernie D.19:03:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
not 4%
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Luka Percic19:03:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
ya, but now its 1% of the savings as well
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Dmac19:03:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dickystar
their pay is 1%
Yes
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Dmac19:05:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
Dangereos
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS19:07:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dickystar
their pay is 1%
It would reduce their 1% by 3%.
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS19:08:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/rm7h6o6IdRo
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Fabiana Cecin19:08:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
How do I know exactly how much CPU and NET I have staked to an account?
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Fabiana Cecin19:09:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I.e. "staked for others"
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Hustle Crypto19:09:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
Come to EOS Telegram for EOS info and leave with medical advice and cookware tips 😂
susatinable model, no one would come for just medical advice
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Fabiana Cecin19:09:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
undelegatebw doesn't have an option to "undelegate everything"
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Ernie D.19:09:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
It would reduce their 1% by 3%.
Okay something should dont for their earning to stay the same , they can make a proposal for that as well. But for cry sake the people have spoken
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Fabiana Cecin19:10:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
found it — look for the OTHER account in the explorer
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS19:10:59 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dickystar
Okay something should dont for their earning to stay the same , they can make a proposal for that as well. But for cry sake the people have spoken
Yeah, I don’t actually think they’re going to budge until they start to lose some votes. That’s how the system is set up.
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Ernie D.19:15:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
Yeah, I don’t actually think they’re going to budge until they start to lose some votes. That’s how the system is set up.
lol it's starting to look like Brexit😝
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Luka Percic19:15:49 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dickystar
Okay something should dont for their earning to stay the same , they can make a proposal for that as well. But for cry sake the people have spoken
nope people didn't spoken until they remove the votes
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Josh Rose19:20:11 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Hi, long shot. I forgot to swap my erc20 tokens...am I totally screwed?
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Dmac19:20:31 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joshrose
Hi, long shot. I forgot to swap my erc20 tokens...am I totally screwed?
No
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Josh Rose19:20:48 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
What do I need to do? Any suggestions?
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS19:21:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Dickystar
lol it's starting to look like Brexit😝
Yeah, except instead of 52% for and 48% against we’ve got 99.8% for and 0.02% against.
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Josh Rose19:21:43 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
They’re on my ledger nano, MEW
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Dmac19:21:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joshrose
What do I need to do? Any suggestions?
I can’t remember but you can get them so relax
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Josh Rose19:22:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Ok great
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Josh Rose19:22:03 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
🙈
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Josh Rose19:22:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
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Dmac19:22:26 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joshrose
👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
This is eos cuz
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Josh Rose19:22:45 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
I assumed they were lost forever
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Josh Rose19:23:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Dmac19:23:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
t.me/EOS911
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Josh Rose19:23:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Legend
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Kyle - Vibes | privEOS19:24:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joshrose
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
https://eosauthority.com/blog/what_to_do_if_you_are_unregistered_EOS_Token_holder
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Dmac19:24:24 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joshrose
Legend
Welcome to the family
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Josh Rose19:24:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Thanks guys!
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Dmac19:25:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joshrose
Thanks guys!
People are inherently good
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The Third 🇬🇧19:26:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
joshrose
Thanks guys!
just returned in time for B1JUNE. Look it up dude ;)
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buzz19:35:15 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
sidtothefuture
It's safe Jacko...
That's the books we read for being MBBS doctor
BS i know what it stands for, but what does the MB part an abbreviation of?
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Ernie D.19:35:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
Yeah, except instead of 52% for and 48% against we’ve got 99.8% for and 0.02% against.
👍😃
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Ernie D.19:36:25 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
nope people didn't spoken until they remove the votes
lol correct
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nutela19:37:05 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
https://eosauthority.com/blog/what_to_do_if_you_are_unregistered_EOS_Token_holder
Just watching your video.
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SID19:37:23 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
buzz
BS i know what it stands for, but what does the MB part an abbreviation of?
U mean mbbs?
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nutela19:37:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
TheAwakenment
It would reduce their 1% by 3%.
👌
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SID19:37:47 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Bachelor of medicine bachelor of surgery MBBS
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io19:43:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
freedomengineer
And at one time there was not flying machines. So what? What I am saying is that we will one day construct free civilizations without coercive use of force. It is romantic and dreamy and really hard to imagine how they can exist. But that's an objective I support.
I support it too, but in a pragmatic fashion. When people build something nice, others with a different mind set come and try to smash it. It's also vastly easier to destroy then to build.
We can build wonderful things, but we ignore human nature at our peril. I am in crypto because I am indeed an idealist, just a pragmatic one haha. Not an oxymoron in my opinion.
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buzz19:45:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Who should be in control of my body.
Your wife of course 😂
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io19:45:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
A country can create a carbon tax of $1000/ton and feel lofty and moral for a year or two. But when the entire economy leaves for a country that isn't as "moral"
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Josh Rose19:45:44 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Did eosDAC ever amount to anything?
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Wealthlink Kauru Paul19:49:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
We are adding just 200 people free in our new forex channel👇👇💥
https://t.me/TheWealthFx
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buzz19:49:02 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
That should be taught by parents
meditation is unlearning
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hadrian19:49:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
I’ve been thinking that government run by random selection of population would be better than voting
I've heard relatively compelling arguments along these lines. It can counter the problem whereby the type of person who would want to, and is able to become a prominent politician is frequently the sort who's sort of undesirable and unrepresentative of the general population.
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DataJunky | GenerEOS19:51:50 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The burn aftermath:
https://medium.com/@pEOS_one/april-26th-the-day-after-the-peos-token-burn-29e920e28343
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M L19:51:54 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Crypto_Crow
Exactly my point. In the dirt it does less harm then when it passes the blood brain barrier. Especially with young children and babies this is a problem this is highly underestimated
I think it should be more carefully studied and vaccines without adjutants should be developed and sold. Personally, I would feel better not putting aluminum into my kid. But given the risks around tuberculosis ad pneumonia, I chose to vaccinate my kid
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M L19:52:20 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
The rate of uptake into the bloodstream from breathing is very efficient
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M L19:52:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
That’s why aluminum in the air is so relevant
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M L19:52:55 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And not just aluminum, but every other toxin
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Hustle Crypto19:52:58 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
That’s why aluminum in the air is so relevant
ahh yes good ol geo engineering by products i suppose?
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M L19:53:17 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Air pollution
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Hustle Crypto19:53:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
alimunum, stroncium, barium
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M L19:53:29 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
From all sources
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M L19:54:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It’s weird to me that people who are concerned with the government geoengineering the climate are often so unconcerned with industrial pollution
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M L19:54:38 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Air and water pollution from agriculture is also a very big deal
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M L19:55:09 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Then there’s pollution from power generation, forest fires, and transportation
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M L19:55:35 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
All of that gets filtered through our kids’ LUNGS
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M L19:56:10 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And the US has some of the best air quality in the world, especially in the northern hemisphere
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Luka Percic19:58:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
All of that gets filtered through our kids’ LUNGS
clean natural gas could replace most of the bourning sources, but co2 alarmists rather channel public funds to questionable projects with solar/wind/batteries
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M L19:58:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
clean natural gas could replace most of the bourning sources, but co2 alarmists rather channel public funds to questionable projects with solar/wind/batteries
Plenty of pollution from natural gas at the site of extraction and from pipeline leaks
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Luka Percic19:59:01 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
pipeline leaks?
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M L19:59:13 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
pipeline leaks?
Lol, yeah
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M L19:59:19 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Pipelines leak
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M L19:59:32 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Welders are notorious drunkards
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io19:59:42 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
lukapercic
clean natural gas could replace most of the bourning sources, but co2 alarmists rather channel public funds to questionable projects with solar/wind/batteries
We could litterly end the warming of the planet with a few billion dollars by creating structures in space that let through the % of solar energy we choose. And it's completely reversible.
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Luka Percic20:00:12 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
Pipelines leak
ya but natural gas even if it leaks quickly turns into co2 and water
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M L20:00:21 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
It’s methane
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Luka Percic20:00:22 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
so thats hardly polution
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M L20:00:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
Which is a much larger molecule that is much more efficient at trapping heat
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DataJunky | GenerEOS20:00:52 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
nachodon
We can agree disagree on medical industry and procedures but cast iron pans — nah that’s not debatable. 😁😂
Sometimes I get up early, go outside and make a nice fire. Then get the camping gear and cast iron frying pan and make the wife campfire coffee in a perculator and campfire bacon and eggs in the cast iron pan.
That's true love
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io20:00:53 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
But now that all the old oil and gas companies are the largest holders of green energy tech, the C02 buggyman is everywhere
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Haley Thomson | EOS Cafe Block | bloks.io20:01:18 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
And an inert chemical that is a building block of all life is coming to kill us all 😂
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Luka Percic20:01:33 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
RDNtrader
It’s methane
methane is shortlived
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M L20:01:37 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
CO2 is a big issue for many reasons
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Luka Percic20:01:51 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
also not pollution, just warming
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hadrian20:02:00 - 27 Apr 2019 [UTC]
daniellarimer
That should be taught by parents
https://t.me/EOSproject/1153693