EOS Telegram Channel History

Benni Rittner10:26:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

i got my eos now on the eos voter. Do i need to leave my wallet unlocked, so it can stake, or can i just lock and close it

Andrey Y10:31:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Alligatooo

i got my eos now on the eos voter. Do i need to leave my wallet unlocked, so it can stake, or can i just lock and close it

You may lock and close it, but there is voting decay, so, recommended to update votes from time to time (like weekly) for high voting power

Andrey Y10:32:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

after 1 year voting power will reduce by 50% to remove this decay, just vote once again

FriGoBar10:33:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Not a programmer so maybe a stupid question, but is EOS still erc20 ? Or what is it now?

sec ond10:33:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Is mainnet dead,？

sec ond10:33:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Ros is eos

adedoyin Destiny (crypto&music)10:34:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

FriGo_Bar

Not a programmer so maybe a stupid question, but is EOS still erc20 ? Or what is it now?

No its not

FriGoBar10:34:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Equihash? Or what’s the designation?

adedoyin Destiny (crypto&music)10:35:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

FriGo_Bar

Equihash? Or what’s the designation?

Its a coin on its own blockchain

Biteos10:35:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

FriGo_Bar

Not a programmer so maybe a stupid question, but is EOS still erc20 ? Or what is it now?

It's running on its own mainnet now

adedoyin Destiny (crypto&music)10:35:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

FriGoBar10:35:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

It every blockchain has it ps own coding right ...sha, equihash x11...

Biteos10:36:57 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

FriGo_Bar

It every blockchain has it ps own coding right ...sha, equihash x11...

you can't mine eos

FriGoBar10:37:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

So EOS is DPOS algo? So it’s not a fork from eth ...it’s build from scratch

FriGoBar10:38:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Decentralized Proof of Stake

Cone Swiss10:39:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

FriGo_Bar

Decentralized Proof of Stake

Deligated Proof of Stake

FriGoBar10:40:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Ok thanks

adedoyin Destiny (crypto&music)10:41:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Delegated...... 🌚

Yannick - Blockgenic10:42:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

FriGo_Bar

So EOS is DPOS algo? So it’s not a fork from eth ...it’s build from scratch

EOS is not in any way related to Ethereum. It's a completely different project

weirdzard10:44:02 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

KinglordIX

Admins please Something really has to be done about the EOS SCAMS it's way too rampant accounts being hacked over and again Mine included

explain. what happened?

원이

원조 이10:49:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

ㅊ

Eric10:52:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Binance using 3000% CPU wtf! https://bloks.io/account/Binancecleos

fav10:53:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

lol tell them to buy $100 worth of eos and stake that shit

fav10:53:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

wtf are they even doing

Eric10:55:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

They need to stake like 5000 EOS LOL

fav10:56:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

they have to do something or they'll never be able to transact again

Natoshi Sakamoto10:56:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hadrianBTS

Don't be stupid. The statement, "Look at what eos can do", is not speculation, nor does it infer that I think everyone holding eos is a speculator.

That’s what I am saying .. haha

fav10:57:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

lil2good

They need to stake like 5000 EOS LOL

huh. 1 eos is already 100% so they just need 100 EOS something

Eric10:58:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

they have to do something or they'll never be able to transact again

Can you check if they only got .1 eos staked in CPU.

fav10:58:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

https://bloks.io/account/Binancecleos that's here

fav10:58:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

CPU Staked : 0.1000 EOS

Eric10:58:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Wtf

fav10:58:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

professional exchange by the way

Eric10:58:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Who staked .1 eos lol

fav10:58:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

that's the minimum u got in a new account

Eric10:59:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

It’s a exchange with .1 eos lol

Eric10:59:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Fail

fav10:59:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

yup

fav10:59:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

and they tell customers it's an eos problem

fav10:59:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

LOL

Eric10:59:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Lol

Levi Hendrickx11:00:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

where can i view my aidrops

Levi Hendrickx11:01:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

like myethereum

fav11:01:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

greymass has it

weirdzard11:03:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

CPU Staked : 0.1000 EOS

they expecting people to cash out soon maybe so they need coins to be liquid???? i'm just guessing.

fav11:03:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

they could just buy $100 worth of eos and stake cpu

fav11:03:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I'm sure they can handle that costs :D

weirdzard11:04:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

yeah. it a very silly mistake on their part.

fav11:05:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I mean they need a new account now and stake from it to main, they won't be able to stake with cpu at max cap

weirdzard11:06:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

offer to delegate them some with interest. lol.

Propriolui11:17:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Were there Any airdrop after eos dac?

Tyszkiewicz11:18:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Propriolul

Were there Any airdrop after eos dac?

a lot actually

Propriolui11:18:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Would i just receive them automaticly in my eos wallet

Propriolui11:18:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

weirdzard11:20:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

you check it here. https://www.bloks.io

Countthecoins.com11:27:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

EOS FTW

Dirty_Dog11:30:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

what's going on with eosswedenorg they seem to lurk in the dark and just get the cash...

ilovedan11:38:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

buy cpu now!

glue dog11:38:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

austin0929

buy cpu now!

wtf

glue dog11:38:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

u cant buy CPU

tuziliu11:38:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Why

ilovedan11:39:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

change all ur eos to cpu

glue dog11:39:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

you cant change your EOS to CPU

glue dog11:39:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

thats not HOW IT WORKS

glue dog11:39:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

you STEAK EOS to get CPU and Bandwidth resources

tuziliu11:39:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

right

glue dog11:39:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

but you dont change the EOS to anything

glue dog11:39:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

you have the EOS

glue dog11:39:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

it's just STEAKED

glue dog11:39:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

and unavailable for 3 days

glue dog11:39:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

if you want to un-STEAK

ilovedan11:41:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

It's a revenge

华

华顺适11:44:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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华顺适11:44:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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华顺适11:44:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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ilovedan11:45:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Buying cpu slows down the mainnet

ilovedan11:46:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

it's a revenge to bps

Fuck BM11:48:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

fuck

xia hongjian11:51:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

eos随便修改RAM规则，不尊重既定事实，人为损害已经买了内存的投资者利益，是对区块链规则不可篡改精神的亵渎。

xia hongjian11:52:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

干预市场，人为造成既有投资者的损失，投票由毫无利益相关人员投票通过，没有辩论，太可怕了

xia hongjian11:53:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

BM这种SB，能创造出一个共赢的经济系统?今天损害的是RAM投资者的利益，明天就能损害DAPP项目方的利益，哪天说你的钱包的币作废……还玩儿毛线

xia hongjian11:54:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

我们散户投资者，拿自己的真金白银，买了eos ram ，凭什么人为干预市场，给我们造成巨大损失

golf cc11:54:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

哎

Fuck BM11:54:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

666

glue dog11:54:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

austin0929

Buying cpu slows down the mainnet

i have most of my EOS steaked

大雄

大雄11:54:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

大雄

大雄11:54:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

大雄

大雄11:54:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

大雄

大雄11:54:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

大雄

大雄11:54:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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大雄11:55:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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大雄11:55:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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大雄11:55:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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大雄11:55:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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xia hongjian11:55:57 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

凭啥损害我们投资人利益，而不经过我们的沟通和交流。如果规则有问题，也是你BM设计的问题，不是我们的问题

Brian | EOS Nairobi11:56:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Hi guys... We are live on our facebook page www.fb.com/eosnairobi

glue dog11:58:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

chinese people get the fk out of here

Karim12:07:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

https://bloks.io/account/Binancecleos that's here

That's crazy..they better fix that soon cause it's a bad PR move & it will create a bad EOS Customer experience in the long run...😅😔

SamAshak12:08:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

CPU Staked : 0.1000 EOS

How can binance operate with only that amount staked ?

fav12:09:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

they can't that's the point

Rohan - EOSauthority12:10:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

samasak9

How can binance operate with only that amount staked ?

They get incoming funds

Aditya12:12:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

What does CPU at 110 percent mean??

ac12:12:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Overclocked

Aditya12:13:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

embedco

What does CPU at 110 percent mean??

Had a look at my account. Just have 0.2 eos staked. Shows 110% used

Aditya12:14:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

TrulyOutrageous

Overclocked

I'm not taking about my home PC 😒

ac12:14:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

We essentially rent a blockchain pc now

CTurns12:19:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/theres-a-bigger-scam-than-anything-in-crypto-its-called-kyc-aml/amp/

Karim12:23:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RohanWillAnswer

They get incoming funds

It's crazy and dangerous! Especially in comparison to the fact that the CHAINCE Exchange has 1000 EOS! STAKED in their incoming wallet fund to prepare and handle high traffic. Check walled ID: Chainceoneos How come Big Binance! Not have the fund to stake some EOS or better yet did not prepared for that?..don't they know how a DPOS chain/EOS works?...that's kinda concerning.😳😅

Karim12:25:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

elvisthecat

Is that the latest updated Blocktivity.info reporting correctly now?😊

E猫

elvisthecat 猫王12:27:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

Is that the latest updated Blocktivity.info reporting correctly now?😊

http://blocktivity.info

傅透

傅透涯12:28:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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SamAshak12:29:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AFellowAnon

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/theres-a-bigger-scam-than-anything-in-crypto-its-called-kyc-aml/amp/

Not only that but with kyc on these tiny exchanges you are at risk of having your identity stolen and sold on the black market . Even with larger exchanges there is a risk

SamAshak12:30:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

I use binance and get my deposit and withdraw quickly. I don’t know how that is possible with such small amt staked

Rohan - EOSauthority12:34:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

Is that the latest updated Blocktivity.info reporting correctly now?😊

Should be. We helped them with some code yesterday to get data for EOS.

Rohan - EOSauthority12:35:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

They can’t stake for people sending them funds anyway.

hanson12:36:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Amend the constitution, modify the white paper, and modify the rules, there will be no large DAPP in the EOS application, who dare to put their priceless DAPP on a public chain that may change the constitution at any time!!!!

Tyszkiewicz12:37:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

why do you lvie in a country that may change its constitution at any time?

hanson12:39:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

There are only two starting points for the state to amend the constitution, protecting the people and protecting investors.

hanson12:39:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan and BP have no such selflessness

hanson12:39:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tyszkiewicz

why do you lvie in a country that may change its constitution at any time?

Dan and BP have no such selflessness

Karim12:40:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RohanWillAnswer

Should be. We helped them with some code yesterday to get data for EOS Transactions data

Thank you! ☺️❤️

Karim12:40:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

samasak9

I use binance and get my deposit and withdraw quickly. I don’t know how that is possible with such small amt staked

😅

Tyszkiewicz12:40:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Dan and BP have no such selflessness

Ofc they dont They have a lot more. Actual interest in network health lmao

hanson12:40:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tyszkiewicz

Ofc they dont They have a lot more. Actual interest in network health lmao

They will not destroy the interests of the people

hanson12:41:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tyszkiewicz

Ofc they dont They have a lot more. Actual interest in network health lmao

Fair!

hanson12:41:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tyszkiewicz

Ofc they dont They have a lot more. Actual interest in network health lmao

free

Tyszkiewicz12:42:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

you ok?

Rohan - EOSauthority12:42:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RohanWillAnswer

They can’t stake for people sending them funds anyway.

They need it for outgoing TX

Thanatos12:43:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If I have an account with nothing staked to perform transactions will I be able to use it to stake from the liquid balance?

fav12:43:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

yes

Karim12:44:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RohanWillAnswer

They can’t stake for people sending them funds anyway.

I know, that's why as a responsible entity, they should invest their own fund to insure flawless ongoing Customer service. I mean, they certainly have the means for it after making 500 millions dollars profits last year..I'm sure they can afford a few EOS.😉 I mean... 0.1 EOS staked! Come on, that's nuts! & not really responsible in my view...😅

Biteos12:46:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

They only have a staff of less than 300. Perhaps they can't keep up to date with the specifics of each project?😂

Tyszkiewicz12:46:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

at least they could admit being fucking stupid. But instead they literally lie to their customers saying that it's EOS network bad lmao

Biteos12:47:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tyszkiewicz

at least they could admit being fucking stupid. But instead they literally lie to their customers saying that it's EOS network bad lmao

Maybe we could lend them a hand and magically delegate some CPU power to them?😁😁

Tyszkiewicz12:48:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

no way!

ilovedan12:48:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

eos is like a north Korea government. Totally a joke

Karim12:49:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tyszkiewicz

at least they could admit being fucking stupid. But instead they literally lie to their customers saying that it's EOS network bad lmao

Really?!..is that what they said the issue was?..😳

Biteos12:49:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

austin0929

eos is like a north Korea government. Totally a joke

yet you still love dan?😅

Karim12:49:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

austin0929

eos is like a north Korea government. Totally a joke

You a joke..stop trolling..😏

Karim12:50:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

biteos

yet you still love dan?😅

Exactly 😂

ilovedan12:50:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

biteos

yet you still love dan?😅

Dan is ok. But the bps...

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale12:50:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

CPU is bullshit

Biteos12:50:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

austin0929

Dan is ok. But the bps...

bps represent our collective wisdom 😂😂

ilovedan12:51:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Could be better

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale12:52:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I steak 4.5 eos for CPU and now I can’t do anything

Karim12:52:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

biteos

Maybe we could lend them a hand and magically delegate some CPU power to them?😁😁

Haha!..true..seems like they would need it. Where's is Chintai? We actually need it asap! Seems like Binance needs a hand here..lol..🔥😉😝😂

Tyszkiewicz12:52:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

Really?!..is that what they said the issue was?..😳

Busy eos network

Karim12:53:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tyszkiewicz

Busy eos network

Geez...what a joke..seriously 😅

Karim12:55:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

They about to get rate limited real quick and learn the hard way if this behavior continues...Meanwhile Thank God! We have Chaince to trade our EOS ecosystem Assets as a better alternative 🙏🏽😇😉

Karim12:56:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

curtiscoin

I steak 4.5 eos for CPU and now I can’t do anything

What about bandwidth? How many EOS did you put there?..

Owlish12:57:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

gluedog

i have most of my EOS steaked

What are the benefits to stake your coins?

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale12:57:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Brandwidth is ok

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale12:58:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

What about bandwidth? How many EOS did you put there?..

0.8eos for bandwidth

Tommy12:59:02 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

curtiscoin

0.8eos for bandwidth

How many accounts

Karim12:59:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

curtiscoin

0.8eos for bandwidth

Maybe that could be why? You get rate limited quicker. I suggest that you balance things out between the two. Like half CPU, half Bandwidth. That would help ☺️

Karim13:01:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Never get less then 1 EOS staked on each side in my experience after listening to the great staking recommendations from the Greymass Team for better user experience. 😎

Karim13:02:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

OracleGuy

What are the benefits to stake your coins?

Well to start off, that's how you get to use the network.😅

Karim13:03:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You stake to transact, vote, delegate to proxy..etc

show truman13:04:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

gg eos

Daniel Larimer13:05:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I’m thinking that we could lower cpu staking costs by introducing a CPU token like ram market. This would facilitate more predictable rate limits, and would generate fresh trading fees for eos holders.

Weifeng13:06:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

that's a great idea

Joseph Cashflow13:06:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dan when are those that stake their coins going to benefit?

Mostafa Nazar13:07:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

also bancor algo?

Daniel Larimer13:07:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

josephcrypto954

dan when are those that stake their coins going to benefit?

We are working on it.

Daniel Larimer13:07:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

also bancor algo?

Yes. Selling cpu ms per day.

Andreas Beier13:07:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Would it not undermine the value if EOS in a way?

Biteos13:07:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Hi Dan, so there is a technical question that I would like to get clarified. With the expansion of the eos network over time, less eos staked will be able to buy more cpu and bandwidith right?

Andreas Beier13:07:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You want a strong tie of EOS to resources

Karim13:08:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Awesome! Hey Dan, Happy belated Birthday! 🙏🏽☺️❤️

Mihai Dumitrescu13:08:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Awsome

Daniel Larimer13:08:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Would it not undermine the value if EOS in a way?

It would support eos value by adding revenue and making it more accessible

ximply13:08:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Yes. Selling cpu ms per day.

Nice

Vking13:09:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are working on it.

你好！ram亏出血了，怎么办？

Andreas Beier13:09:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I think off chain markets would prevent much revenue

Daniel Larimer13:09:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

In effect it is as if enabling renting bandwidth

Weifeng13:09:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I really need passive income from staking eos tokens

Daniel Larimer13:09:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

But everyone benefit equally

ximply13:09:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

this will make eos boom!

Mihai Dumitrescu13:09:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RAM, CPU and stake rewards are a priority for the short term

ximply13:10:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Any timeline we can have that implemented? Take your time so you can plan it well.

Mostafa Nazar13:10:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

why there should be reward for staking?

Fow13:10:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

It would be good decouple basic account price from EOS itself.

Daniel Larimer13:10:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

I think off chain markets would prevent much revenue

Hard to compete with liquidity of internal market

Bart Wyatt13:10:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Yes. Selling cpu ms per day.

This sounds like a hardfork considering the proportional allocation of cpu resources is controlled at the chain level. Unless we are going to reset the allocations across all accounts on some timeline so that you can enforce the portion/time nature of a such a coin

Fow13:10:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

why there should be reward for staking?

It secures the network

Andreas Beier13:11:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Would you do initial distribution to token holders?

E猫

elvisthecat 猫王13:11:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

biteos

Hi Dan, so there is a technical question that I would like to get clarified. With the expansion of the eos network over time, less eos staked will be able to buy more cpu and bandwidith right?

Hi Dan, got a question here.

ximply13:11:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

and we will stake more to generate more cpu and bandwidth and we can vote regularly as well

ximply13:11:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Everyone wins on this

hanson13:11:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

😅😅😅😅😅

Daniel Larimer13:12:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

wanderingbort

Well there is a way to approximate it without hard fork. And to still support staking for cpu as well.

show truman13:12:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dcpu and Pcpu are coming~

Mostafa Nazar13:12:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

fowfowfow

It secures the network

how?

hanson13:13:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Well there is a way to approximate it without hard fork. And to still support staking for cpu as well.

In my opinion, rules and constitution are simple, and do not destroy and interfere with the market if the rules are customized. It is important to respect the rules of the Constitution

Fow13:13:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

how?

Higher voter participation makes it harder to game BP spots.

Daniel Larimer13:13:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Truman_Show

Dcpu and Pcpu are coming~

Not likely

adi wang13:13:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Truman_Show

Dcpu and Pcpu are coming~

and you can buy 100cpu now for next 5 year

hanson13:14:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Not likely

The ram incident was a bloody market intervention

Bart Wyatt13:14:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Well there is a way to approximate it without hard fork. And to still support staking for cpu as well.

So this token would convert to staked resources indefinitely or only for a temporary period. If it's the latter how do we guarantee we can reap the overdue stake from the system in a certain quantum of time?

Mihai Dumitrescu13:14:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

how?

at the moment only the staked EOS count as votes for the BPs. the more EOS is staked, the more votes you have and you get a higher BP diversity

Zafar13:14:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer You the man!

Andreas Beier13:14:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You need to make sure speculation in demand for EOS resources translate to the EOS token somehow.

Daniel Larimer13:14:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

wanderingbort

I’ve only just begun exploring this.

Mostafa Nazar13:15:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

fowfowfow

Higher voter participation makes it harder to game BP spots.

I thing that giving one vote for each token will make it very hard to game BP spots

yandot13:15:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

EOS Gas is legit ?

Daniel Larimer13:15:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

You need to make sure speculation in demand for EOS resources translate to the EOS token somehow.

Fees paid to staked eos holders.

Joseph Cashflow13:15:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

yandot

EOS Gas is legit ?

eq Bozhu13:15:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You always change

Andreas Beier13:15:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Fess need a market mechanism.

Doc_Worm13:16:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

yandot

EOS Gas is legit ?

scam

Mostafa Nazar13:16:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

MihaiDumitrescu

at the moment only the staked EOS count as votes for the BPs. the more EOS is staked, the more votes you have and you get a higher BP diversity

cant we make it that even unstaked tokens can vote?

hanson13:16:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You always change😁😁😁😁😁

Zafar13:16:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer do you expect to see many projects jumping shop from ethereum to Eos?

Stephan13:16:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Making cpu like ram ? Any fears it could have same issues ram did have or still has

Daniel Larimer13:16:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Fess need a market mechanism.

Yes. I have plan for that

Weifeng13:16:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Fees paid to staked eos holders.

THIS WILL BE A GREAT NEWS FOR ALL EOS HOLDERS.

Falling Water13:16:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Daniel Larimer13:16:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Stephan

Making cpu like ram ? Any fears it could have same issues ram did have or still has

What issues

yandot13:17:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I got email from eos gas to download wallet

hanson13:17:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

What issues

I want to get a stable and secure EOS chain

Mihai Dumitrescu13:17:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

I thing that giving one vote for each token will make it very hard to game BP spots

we are only at 34% voting participation

Daniel Larimer13:17:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Only issue with ram was initial selling price.

Mihai Dumitrescu13:17:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jiangweifeng

THIS WILL BE A GREAT NEWS FOR ALL EOS HOLDERS.

better for EOS stakers

Ryan Waterfall13:17:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Doc_Worm

scam

I guess it's legit and not a scam. If you see the reviews that written on Revain about EOS you will understand that this isn't a scam.

Mostafa Nazar13:18:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan why cant we make unstakes tokens count in voting?

Weifeng13:18:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

MihaiDumitrescu

better for EOS stakers

EOS will go up very quickly. lol

Mihai Dumitrescu13:18:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

currently there are no incentives for staking. everyone is either trading EOS or RAM instead of securing the network by staking and voting

Stephan13:18:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

So staking cpu in future is a possibility ? Like how ram fee will go to eos holders who staking

ximply13:18:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

This is good news guys to eos community if we can pull this off

da Lexx13:18:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Hey dan, Chaince exchange sucks. When might bts3 will launch?

hanson13:18:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If a EOS constitutional rule is unstable, a mature developer and company will not put DAPP in a system that changes the rules at any time, very dangerous!

Mostafa Nazar13:18:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan why cant we make unstaked tokens count in voting?

Andreas Beier13:19:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Also a CPU token needs to be dropped on EOS stakeholders for a fair initial dristibution and to honor investor expectation.

Tyszkiewicz13:19:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

gzuz_342

Hey dan, Chaince exchange sucks. When might bts3 will launch?

Mihai Dumitrescu13:19:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

Dan why cant we make unstaked tokens count in voting?

because most of the unstaked EOS is in the hands of the exchanges. we dont need them to manipulate the BPs

Zafar13:19:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer Are there any big partnerships in the pipeline?

Daniel Larimer13:19:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

Dan why cant we make unstaked tokens count in voting?

Because they are managed by different contract

hanson13:20:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Hey dan, EOS Chaince exchange sucks. When might bts3 will launch?😁 +1

Daniel Larimer13:20:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Hey dan, EOS Chaince exchange sucks. When might bts3 will launch?😁 +1

It’s coming along rapidly

Mário Silva13:20:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Only issue with ram was initial selling price.

Dan is there a plan to add to RPC API counting rows from state tables? or is not possible atm?

Sol13:20:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It’s coming along rapidly

👍👍

Mostafa Nazar13:20:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Because they are managed by different contract

what contract?

Mihai Dumitrescu13:21:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Hey dan, EOS Chaince exchange sucks. When might bts3 will launch?😁 +1

i still like Die Hard 2 better than Die Hard 3 ȘD

Aneta13:21:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan, what about the 4% inflation?

ximply13:21:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It’s coming along rapidly

Cant wait for this one.

bitc13:21:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

http://latestnews9ow.blogspot.com/2018/07/ripple-latest-news-ripple-xrp-is-in_28.html

Rex Ignis13:21:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

will there be a Bandwidth token as well?

Daniel Larimer13:21:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

Dan, what about the 4% inflation?

Let it burn.

Falling Water13:21:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

currently there is no incentive to stake, only punishment

Doc_Worm13:21:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RyanWaterfall

I guess it's legit and not a scam. If you see the reviews that written on Revain about EOS you will understand that this isn't a scam.

All I know is there has been at least 2 methods of getting private keys. One was a phishing site imitating my ether wallet and also the wallet had reports of key theft.

Mihai Dumitrescu13:21:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

what contract?

the staked EOS is managed by a contract. the unstaked EOS is managed by a different contract

Daniel Larimer13:21:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Rex Ignis

will there be a Bandwidth token as well?

Yes

Mostafa Nazar13:21:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Let it burn.

I love u

Ryan Waterfall13:21:57 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Doc_Worm

All I know is there has been at least 2 methods of getting private keys. One was a phishing site imitating my ether wallet and also the wallet had reports of key theft.

So that must be the scam not this project. Thanks for another info that you'd share

Andreas Beier13:21:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

The RAM token should probably have been distributed eo EOS holders to prevent massive land grab.

Aneta13:22:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Let it burn.

Take if of the circulation or put in a contract?

hanson13:22:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It’s coming along rapidly

I hope so! But you scared away a lot of companies that wanted to develop, including our company! The Constitution and principles can not be modified arbitrarily. The first principle is fairness and protection.

Mostafa Nazar13:22:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

MihaiDumitrescu

the staked EOS is managed by a contract. the unstaked EOS is managed by a different contract

cant we change that?

Daniel Larimer13:22:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

The RAM token should probably have been distributed eo EOS holders to prevent massive land grab.

90% of ram is yet to be distributed

Doc_Worm13:22:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RyanWaterfall

So that must be the scam not this project. Thanks for another info that you'd share

just don't give away your private keys.

Fow13:23:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Let it burn.

++1

Zafar13:23:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Will cpu and bandwidth tokens be based on initial snapshot? @daniellarimer

Mihai Dumitrescu13:23:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

why would you? voting should be allowed only for those securing the network

ilovedan13:23:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Agree

Ryan Waterfall13:23:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Doc_Worm

just don't give away your private keys.

Yes I'm well aware of that 👍🏻

Daniel Larimer13:23:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Zafar177

Will cpu and bandwidth tokens be based on initial snapshot? @daniellarimer

No. I’ll come up with details, just looking for feedback

Mostafa Nazar13:23:57 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

90% of ram is yet to be distributed

so does that make ram maximum supply about 1 tb right now?

Daniel Larimer13:24:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

so does that make ram maximum supply about 1 tb right now?

No.

Mihai Dumitrescu13:24:57 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Zafar177

Will cpu and bandwidth tokens be based on initial snapshot? @daniellarimer

this is not right. distribute only to current holders.

ac13:24:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Cpu on bancor?

Falling Water13:25:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

cpu and network tokens ?

Roland13:25:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Let it burn.

👍

yandot13:25:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

How to join with greymass platform?

Todor13:25:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. I’ll come up with details, just looking for feedback

CPU and NET tokens give perpetual rights to resources like RAM?

yandot13:25:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Sorry i am still new in here

Falling Water13:25:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

so don't hold eos anymore, only cpu network adn ram tokens ?

Mostafa Nazar13:26:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

so don't hold eos anymore, only cpu network adn ram tokens ?

who said that?

Daniel Larimer13:26:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

tkaraivanov

CPU and NET tokens give perpetual rights to resources like RAM?

Exact model is tbd. Goal is to make it a cheaper alternative like renting.

Falling Water13:26:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water13:26:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

i said that

Falling Water13:26:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

this guy <

ilovedan13:26:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

cpu holders can also be benifited**?**

Daniel Larimer13:26:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

so don't hold eos anymore, only cpu network adn ram tokens ?

Eos receives all profits from tokens.

Andriy Tyurnikov13:26:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Good & safe constitution is better then bad and stable one)

Andreas Beier13:26:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

There is a real chance that much of the CPU and RAM tokens will be bought up by exchanges and traded off chain. And you will have made no impact.

Daniel Larimer13:27:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

There is a real chance that much of the CPU and RAM tokens will be bought up by exchanges and traded off chain. And you will have made no impact.

No different than those staking more than they need now

Frank13:27:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer Dan do you know what's up with the big binance maintenance and suspending EOS for over 30hrs now?

Doc_Worm13:27:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RyanWaterfall

Yes I'm well aware of that 👍🏻

https://www.reddit.com/r/eos/comments/92k79c/scam_alert_eosgas_alpha_wallet_v11/ The phishing link was in their telegram chanel. to a fake myetherwallet

Andreas Beier13:28:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

"No difference" is the key concept. Is this just a waste of time

ximply13:29:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

There is a real chance that much of the CPU and RAM tokens will be bought up by exchanges and traded off chain. And you will have made no impact.

No definite details yet. Let them discuss and plan it out. Token generation can be done while you stake and can also be burned in the process to limit the supply

Falling Water13:29:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

when can we expect these changes

Mostafa Nazar13:29:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dan you are doing a very good job in trying to make resources being used in the most efficient way. but you have to come with solutions for account creation problem. it is not ok to depend on 3rd parties to create eos account for new comers

RM - Chaince13:29:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer if there is more tokens to be dropped from EOS.io will they be Fair Dropped or be taken of the genesis?

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:29:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

In effect it is as if enabling renting bandwidth

how is this different drom staking your eos for cpu and bandwith for someone else and get some revenue?

Falling Water13:29:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

will there be a referendum on this

Daniel Larimer13:30:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

We are a 3rd party to this chain

Falling Water13:31:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

so should we unstake in preparation

Andreas Beier13:31:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If you can make a nice ROI for EOS holders I am for it. But I am not sure it is possible.

Daniel Larimer13:31:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

JR_Crypt

how is this different from staking your eos for cpu and bandwith for someone else and get some revenue?

It simplifies it and lets all eos holders benefit rather than just those that choose to experiment with rentals.

rektkid13:32:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer any word on when this EOS roadmap will be released?

E猫

elvisthecat 猫王13:32:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

yandot

How to join with greymass platform?

PM me.

Andreas Beier13:32:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Would it not be better to create a rental option so EOS holders can get a ROI?

Daniel Larimer13:33:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Would it not be better to create a rental option so EOS holders can get a ROI?

That’s what this does

Falling Water13:33:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

will what we have staked now become resource tokens

Andreas Beier13:33:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You can rent you CPU on chain market.

hanson13:33:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It simplifies it and lets all eos holders benefit rather than just those that choose to experiment with rentals.

RAM if the rate of speculation rose to 90% again, and only 50% of the utilization rate, will it speed up the expansion?

Andreas Beier13:33:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Rental and ownership. The owner sets the rental fees.

Mostafa Nazar13:33:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are a 3rd party to this chain

I mean solutions like having new accounts with minimum requirements of resources to make them functional but with negative eos balance so that is can't really used until the new eos user would pay the negative balance this way he wouldnt need 3rd party to create new account

GT13:33:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Any idea on binance EOS suspension?

Daniel Larimer13:34:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Rental and ownership. The owner sets the rental fees.

Market will get everyone best rates.

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:34:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It simplifies it and lets all eos holders benefit rather than just those that choose to experiment with rentals.

So buy/sell those token generates fees and those fees are distributed among all users staking eos?

hanson13:34:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RAM if the speculative rate rises to 90% again, with only 50% utilization, will it continue to modify the rules to accelerate expansion?

Andreas Beier13:35:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If you just implement on chain delegation of resources you have a market.

Cai Hua13:35:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

You can rent you CPU on chain market.

How to rent

Daniel Larimer13:35:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

If you just implement on chain delegation of resources you have a market.

Already exists

Lotti Dotti13:35:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Market will get everyone best rates.

It’s EOS suspended on binance?

Andreas Beier13:35:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

So it's a non problem

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:36:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

If you just implement on chain delegation of resources you have a market.

You already can delegate cpu/bandwith

Lotti Dotti13:36:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

GT3Sports

Any idea on binance EOS suspension?

Why is it suspended? I have some EOS in binance wallet.

Jakob13:36:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Lotti Dotti

It’s EOS suspended on binance?

Binance is so unprofessionell, they don't even understand how EOS works

Daniel Larimer13:36:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

So it's a non problem

It’s like otc trades now. We can improve efficiency

GT13:36:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

trying to get some answers as well..

show truman13:36:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are a 3rd party to this chain

why you always change the game rules,not with a formal investigation anounce .and the bp always follow you. and the holder have to suffer . is this means dac? the holder are in panic~

Jakob13:36:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Binance is so unprofessionell, they don't even understand how EOS works

They have not enough CPU staked

Daniel Larimer13:37:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Truman_Show

why you always change the game rules,not with a formal investigation anounce .and the bp always follow you. and the holder have to suffer . is this means dac? the holder are in panic~

We have not changed rules

Mostafa Nazar13:37:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are a 3rd party to this chain

I mean solutions like having new accounts with minimum requirements of resources to make these accounts functional but with negative eos balance so that the new user can't really use it until he would pay the negative balance, this way he wouldnt need 3rd party to create new account.

Daniel Larimer13:37:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Mostafa Nazar

Spam

Daniel Larimer13:38:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Account uses ram

hanson13:38:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We have not changed rules

Why do the whole community say that you change the rules, and you think there is no change?

fav13:38:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Anything that pays me for staking is a good change

Aneta13:38:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

How do you handle spam in the future? There will be always more

Lotti Dotti13:38:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It’s like otc trades now. We can improve efficiency

Can you please answer to people’s concerns regarding Binance and EOS?

fav13:38:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Imo

Falling Water13:39:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

since speculating on ram was such a good idea, were gonna open all eos resources to speculation

Mostafa Nazar13:39:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Account uses ram

if the negative balance hasn't paid after one week foe example it can be deleted and the resources will be freed

Tommy13:39:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

Anything that pays me for staking is a good change

Well its not really paying u if u account inflation into eis network

Daniel Larimer13:39:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Why do the whole community say that you change the rules, and you think there is no change?

Only voters via producers can change a contract

Lotti Dotti13:39:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Is there a problem between Binance and EOS?

Tommy13:39:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tommy

Well its not really paying u if u account inflation into eis network

Its incentive for u to vote help network

Daniel Larimer13:39:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Lotti Dotti

Is there a problem between Binance and EOS?

They are fixing it

Andreas Beier13:39:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Just keep in mind that you need to drop any CPU token to EOS holders to make this a fair distribution. Or you would take CPU resources from EOS holders.

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:39:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer are staked and unused cpu/bandwith impact the amount of transactions other users can do? or the amount of bandwith/cpu I can use is only based on real usage/congestion of the network? I have been trying to digg into it but havent found much info.

Tommy13:39:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We have not changed rules

Please reduce your remarks and your comments affect the entire project.

fav13:39:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tommy

Well its not really paying u if u account inflation into eis network

I'm losing now if you consider inflation by just holding

Lotti Dotti13:39:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

They are fixing it

Oh so nothing to worry about? Thank you

show truman13:40:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Only voters via producers can change a contract

will holder have way to vote for some big issue of the eos future~BP are not always honest

RM - Chaince13:40:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Fair drop the tokens!

Daniel Larimer13:40:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

yu464296869

Please reduce your remarks and your comments affect the entire project.

Lack of communication also impact market

Jakob13:40:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

They just overused their CPU and now wondering why

RM - Chaince13:40:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

We are in a constitution after all, make it Fair

hanson13:40:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

They are fixing it

Because you come out and intervene! You gave them multiple choice questions, they only chose yes, and you shouldn't have multiple choice questions, did you?

Jakob13:41:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Stupid amateurs

Eric Fu13:41:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Lack of communication also impact market

👍

ximply13:41:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

can we make it like neo gas that we need to claim? Auto generate as we stake?

Lotti Dotti13:41:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Is that you are account? Lucky you 😂

Mostafa Nazar13:41:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Account uses ram

if the negative balance hasn't paid after one week or one day for example it can be deleted and the resources will be freed.

Tommy13:41:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Because you come out and intervene! You gave them multiple choice questions, they only chose yes, and you shouldn't have multiple choice questions, did you?

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:41:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer the amount of tx I can do is based on real network usage/congestion or the staked by users?

Falling Water13:41:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

ok you all need to unstake and get ready to buy these resource, else you're gonna miss out before the speculators make affordable

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:41:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

the amount of tx I can do is based on real network usage/congestion or the staked by users?

Tommy13:41:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Lack of communication also impact market

Lol there 2 tommys, but yea communication in a project is key for it to work as everything can be percieved and valued by the community

Jakob13:42:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Lotti Dotti

Is that you are account? Lucky you 😂

It's binance account. They are not able to dotransactions because they are stupid fucks

Andreas Beier13:42:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Daniel If you tokenise my CPU resource you need to hand me the token or it would be like stealing it.

RM - Chaince13:42:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

lol

Lotti Dotti13:42:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

It's binance account. They are not able to do transactions because they are stupid fucks

Unbelievable!! They need a real competition and then they will start doing business right

show truman13:43:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

always BPs make the decision like the Chinese politics

show truman13:43:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hate it

Tommy13:43:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Sorry if anyone does not mind answering but how will eos achieve 50k tps theoretically is it side chains? And da ram increase?

Tommy13:43:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Truman_Show

always BPs make the decision like the Chinese politics

Community to small but we are early days i reckon

Biteos13:43:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I thought we had plans to rent out our eos tokens for CPU and BANDWIDTH resources. Is that not as good of a plan?

Falling Water13:43:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

unstake and 45% ram 45% cpu 10% network if you don't want to get left behind

hanson13:44:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dan You are the boss, BP is a worker 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

Daniel Larimer13:44:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Daniel If you tokenise my CPU resource you need to hand me the token or it would be like stealing it.

And how much cpu is yours? The network is merely leasing you cpu while you are staked

Andreas Beier13:44:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

My EOS stake I guess.

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:45:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

And how much cpu is yours? The network is merely leasing you cpu while you are staked

the amount of tx I can do is based on real network usage/congestion or the total staked by users?

hanson13:45:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RAM if the speculative rate rises to 90% again, with only 50% utilization, will it continue to modify the rules to accelerate expansion?

Daniel Larimer13:45:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

JR_Crypt

the amount of tx I can do is based on real network usage/congestion or the total staked by users?

Both

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:45:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Both

Where I can find more info of the formula?

rektkid13:45:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Wait, so CPU is being tokenised as well now?

Daniel Larimer13:46:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

RAM if the speculative rate rises to 90% again, with only 50% utilization, will it continue to modify the rules to accelerate expansion?

Rules don’t change. Rule is that producers can change rate.

Tommy13:46:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Stop hype CPU behavior

Daniel Larimer13:46:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rektkid

Wait, so CPU is being tokenised as well now?

Proposal being considered

Falling Water13:47:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

im unstaking the works, get ready to by the real eos guys

Scott C13:47:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer hi Dan. Any ideas on incentives for those who stake and vote. Those who don’t seem to have liquidity without burden.

show truman13:47:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Rules don’t change. Rule is that producers can change rate.

maybe there will be a emotion index for eos holder

Daniel Larimer13:47:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

scottisatthepool

@daniellarimer hi Dan. Any ideas on incentives for those who stake and vote. Those who don’t seem to have liquidity without burden.

We are considering all fees go to staked users

rektkid13:47:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Proposal being considered

I thought these tokens I purchased through the ICO were CPU and bandwith resources on the network. Are you saying that EOS tokens won't have rights to CPU any more?

E猫

elvisthecat 猫王13:48:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

Great! 😎

show truman13:48:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

happy ->comfort ->angry

Tommy13:49:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Aneta13:49:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

Won’t this make account creation more expensive ?

Rex Ignis13:49:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rektkid

I thought these tokens I purchased through the ICO etitled CPU and bandwith resources on the network. Are you saying that EOS tokens won't have rights to CPU any more?

I feel the same way, now I’m puzzled what EOS token is used for.

Daniel Larimer13:49:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rektkid

I thought these tokens I purchased through the ICO etitled CPU and bandwith resources on the network. Are you saying that EOS tokens won't have rights to CPU any more?

No. I’m saying that eos tokens receive profits from those rights rather than letting your unused bandwidth go to waste.

Andreas Beier13:49:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Daniel Some people have bought EOS to reserve CPU resources for long range projects. Will you under mine their plans if they don't quickly buy the CPU token?

fav13:49:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

does this count for network and cpu stake, or would I need to stake more in cpu to get cpu fees?

Jakob13:49:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

That would be great, hopefully more users vote and kick all those scam blockproducers like eoscleaner out!

hanson13:49:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Rules don’t change. Rule is that producers can change rate.

I don't care about producers, I care about you! When it comes to this, will you give them the choice questions?😁😁😁😁

Jakob13:49:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

And free token of cause

Aneta13:50:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan, won’t this new token make account creation more expensive ?

hanson13:50:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I care about you!

rektkid13:50:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. I’m saying that eos tokens receive profits from those rights rather than letting your unused bandwidth go to waste.

Can you explain what you are propsing a little more clearly?

show truman13:50:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

if always bp make decision. I feel eos is like the btc.

ac13:50:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Eos is just for dividends

Stefan13:50:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

Only for cpu staked tokens or bandwidth tokens also?

Michael L13:50:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rektkid

Can you explain what you are proposing a little more clearly?

show truman13:50:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

I care about you!

明丁

明明丁13:50:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan,. Since I hope ram is cheap, why did I think that ram is a scarce resource and set the bancor algorithm to trade ram, why now directly expand to combat the price? Why didn't you fix the ram directly at a very cheap price? Worried that developers can't afford it, why not open ram to developers and not all holders? Keep changing, where did your original intention go? Is your credit so cheap?

Scott C13:50:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

That is will be a great to get past the rational ignorance we are seeing. Voter participation is moving too slowly.

Daniel Larimer13:50:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Right now if you don’t use your cpu you lose it. We will turn unused cpu rights of eos holders into revenue

Jakob13:51:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

EOS is just for wizards. Buy wizards.

rektkid13:51:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Right now if you don’t use your cpu you lose it. We will turn unused cpu rights of eos holders into revenue

I like the sound of this.

fav13:51:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Right now if you don’t use your cpu you lose it. We will turn unused cpu rights of eos holders into revenue

so I should start unstaking my bandwith and route most if it on cpu?

Jack_the_Crypter13:51:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Anyone know why EOS deposits and WD's are suspended on Binance?

鸿M

鸿 Mai13:51:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

The fact is that，what you said always come true

sec ond13:51:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

can i eran EOS by selling CPU stalk?

Michael L13:51:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Right now if you don’t use your cpu you lose it. We will turn unused cpu rights of eos holders into revenue

So essentially you will be taking over chinti's role but in an automatic fashion vs. a voluntary opt-in process with them?

Daniel Larimer13:52:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

so I should start unstaking my bandwith and route most if it on cpu?

Will be net token too under this proposal

Biteos13:52:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If bandwidth and cpu gets decoupled from eos, won't that mean developers don't need to buy eos? They just have to buy bandwidth and cpu?

hanson13:52:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You are always the first to solve problems and troubles! This is very worthy of respect! But there are some events that need you to be silent! Give to the market

fav13:52:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Will be net token too under this proposal

oh okay thx

hanson13:52:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

DAN You are always the first to solve problems and troubles! This is very worthy of respect! But there are some events that need you to be silent! Give to the market

show truman13:52:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

if cpu is able to be rent. cpu will be more expensive~

fav13:52:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

biteos

If bandwidth and cpu gets decoupled from eos, won't that mean developers don't need to buy eos? They just have to buy bandwidth and cpu?

renting was always a plan

Daniel Larimer13:52:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

biteos

If bandwidth and cpu gets decoupled from eos, won't that mean developers don't need to buy eos? They just have to buy bandwidth and cpu?

What do you think they pay for that with

Rex Ignis13:52:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Right now if you don’t use your cpu you lose it. We will turn unused cpu rights of eos holders into revenue

My understanding is that you still have to stake for CPU and then you can lease out any unused CPU?

Jakob13:53:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Jack_the_Crypter

Anyone know why EOS deposits and WD's are suspended on Binance?

Their technicans are not able to stake enough CPU to this account, so account can't make any transactions. They are a hell of an exchange and nobody should use them!

Biteos13:53:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

What do you think they pay for that with

Ah I see :)

鸿M

鸿 Mai13:53:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

and the problem is that what you said changed rapily like RAM，from “it should be cost and will not be extended” to “1kb per block and pro RAM”

rektkid13:53:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Will be net token too under this proposal

Does the proposal have any consideration for those who have been staked (and voting) since day 1 of the mainnet launch? Or does it only count from a certain date in the future?

Rugo13:53:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

What do you think they pay for that with

Would that mean that my current staked cpu would be affected, in that I might get more or less EOS back?

Jack_the_Crypter13:54:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Their technicans are not able to stake enough CPU to this account, so account can't make any transactions. They are a hell of an exchange and nobody should use them!

Gotcha, thanks

Tommy13:54:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

What do you think they pay for that with

Will only become a speculative market

Owlish13:54:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rektkid

Does the proposal have any consideration for those who have been staked (and voting) since day 1 of the mainnet launch? Or does it only count from a certain date in the future?

Scott C13:54:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are considering all fees go to staked users

Any chance that fees will be credited retroactively?

Aneta13:54:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan, what about account creation? Will it get more expensive as one will need to buy not only RAM but also CPU?

明丁

明明丁13:54:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

What do you think they pay for that with

Dan, since you want ram to be cheap, why did you think that ram is a scarce resource and set the bancor algorithm to trade ram, why now directly expand to combat the price? Why didn't you fix the ram directly at a very cheap price? Worried that developers can't afford it, why not open ram to developers and not all holders? Keep changing, where did your original intention go? Is your credit so cheap?

sec ond13:54:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan's professional is write program but not governing

Daniel Larimer13:54:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

scottisatthepool

Any chance that fees will be credited retroactively?

Burned.

wang qang13:54:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

What do you think they pay for that with

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

Andreas Beier13:54:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Daniel If you don't drop the CPU token on EOS stakeholders you will undermine their plans to use this bandwith in long range projects. You might create a massive dump into the CPU token.

ximply13:55:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. I’m saying that eos tokens receive profits from those rights rather than letting your unused bandwidth go to waste.

Yeah i like this one.

Cone Swiss13:55:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. I’m saying that eos tokens receive profits from those rights rather than letting your unused bandwidth go to waste.

This a very good idea. Really good.

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com13:56:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Right now if you don’t use your cpu you lose it. We will turn unused cpu rights of eos holders into revenue

That sounds better

Daniel Larimer13:56:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Daniel If you don't drop the CPU token on EOS stakeholders you will undermine their plans to use this bandwith in long range projects. You might create a massive dump into the CPU token.

Wait for detailed proposal, I still need to work through things to ensure fairness

ximply13:56:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Daniel Some people have bought EOS to reserve CPU resources for long range projects. Will you under mine their plans if they don't quickly buy the CPU token?

Can you just buy all NEO GAS? even those not yet generated? Token wont be handed out to you in one lump sum.

wang qang13:56:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Both cpu and net should be traded, so that small ads are reduced, and many accounts send advertisements through small transfers, and the cost is very low.

Falling Water13:56:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

DAN You are always the first to solve problems and troubles! This is very worthy of respect! But there are some events that need you to be silent! Give to the market

everyone here deserves a heads up you prick

moonwalker13:56:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Truman_Show

if always bp make decision. I feel eos is like the btc.

lol, what are you talking about？ in btc the alogrithm makes decision

hanson13:56:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RAM expansion, more 1.5g how to solve?

fav13:57:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

RAM expansion, more 1.5g how to solve?

nothing to solve. BPs decided to run it

Cone Swiss13:57:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

everyone here deserves a heads up you prick

hanson13:57:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

nothing to solve. BPs decided to run it

fuck bp 😅

嘿

嘿嘿13:57:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Air Drop CPU token for eos holders is good

Tommy13:58:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

嘿嘿

Air Drop CPU token for eos holders is good

Lol

Karim13:58:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

What do you think they pay for that with

Smart! Another EOS KEY PAIRS 🔥😁😉☺️

fav13:58:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

fuck bp 😅

amend your votes if you don't like it

Daniel Larimer13:59:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

everyone here deserves a heads up you prick

hanson13:59:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

amend your votes if you don't like it

I have limited power. 😁😁😁

Scott C14:00:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Burned.

Many of us have locked up and staked since the mainnet launch. Those unstaked with the benefit of liquidity should have disincentive to do so. IMO

fav14:00:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

I have limited power. 😁😁😁

find a proxy and bundle your power :)

Daniel Larimer14:00:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Cannot give more heads up than floating an idea hours after conceived.

hanson14:00:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

find a proxy and bundle your power :)

It's not as good as Dan to solve fairness. 😁😁😁

Scott C14:00:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

everyone here deserves a heads up you prick

Bye bye this guy. Admin do what u do.

hanson14:01:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

need dan

Biteos14:01:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Cannot give more heads up than floating an idea hours after conceived.

He was responding to a person that commented you should not comment so much. i.e. heads ups are good 😁

ac14:02:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Take shelter in Wizards. Rare assets holding value 👍🇨🇳🇰🇷

Daniel Larimer14:02:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

RAM expansion, more 1.5g how to solve?

Don’t

Andreas Beier14:02:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer I think it is crusial to have a ownership and rental market of all resources on EOS. Where rental fees and rental-time is part of the deal.

E猫

elvisthecat 猫王14:02:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

everyone here deserves a heads up you prick

Be respectful.

TJ14:02:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer can you give some insight about the upcoming dex and steemit you are currently creating. Will EOS token holders only benefit from higher EOS value or also receive an airdrop?

hanson14:02:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

favdesu

amend your votes if you don't like it

Calm, mature investors, like to choose silence 😁😁😁😁😁

RM - Chaince14:03:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer can you give some insight about the upcoming dex and steemit you are currently creating. Will EOS token holders only benefit from higher EOS value or also receive an airdrop?

Bit Hunter14:04:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan is a God

Daniel Larimer14:04:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer can you give some insight about the upcoming dex and steemit you are currently creating. Will EOS token holders only benefit from higher EOS value or also receive an airdrop?

Exchange may pay some fees to staked eos holders

moonwalker14:04:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

I have limited power. 😁😁😁

perhaps number of votes shouldn't be linearly proportional to number of eos

Junbong Kim14:04:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

BM+21

Junbong Kim14:05:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

haha

RM - Chaince14:05:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer will we see steem2 before Xmas?

Bit Hunter14:05:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Exchange may pay some fees to staked eos holders

An excellent idea

Daniel Larimer14:06:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

We will make token drops cheaper by not requiring issuers to deploy their own token contracts

TJ14:06:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Exchange may pay some fees to staked eos holders

Allright thanks for answering my question! And the upcoming steemit/facebook/social media platform?

Natoshi Sakamoto14:06:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Are we heading towards another RAM like situation with CPU now? SETCPURATE update?

Daniel Larimer14:06:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Instead they buy symbols from main token contract.

Daniel Larimer14:06:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

Are we heading towards another RAM like situation with CPU now? SETCPURATE update?

No. Cpu time is fixed.

Bit Hunter14:06:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Exchange may pay some fees to staked eos holders

How about those who have been staking simce day dot. Back pay?

Natoshi Sakamoto14:07:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Bit Hunter14:07:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

*since

Daniel Larimer14:07:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. Cpu time is fixed.

Would love to add more hours to the day 🤔

Karim14:07:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Exchange may pay some fees to staked eos holders

Is it basically kinda like the CET token mechanics of the Chaince Exchange. Meaning, DEX charge fees -->Fees goes to special wallet --> then wallet distributes to staked token holders?! 🔥😁☺️❤️

Yan Mavis14:07:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. Cpu time is fixed.

Hi Dan~Is the future CPU able to open free trade like Ram?

Natoshi Sakamoto14:08:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Would love to add more hours to the day 🤔

Lol

Daniel Larimer14:08:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bithunter1

How about those who have been staking simce day dot. Back pay?

No, they get proof of burn already factored into price.

Junior Ramos14:08:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer when they will implement the staking options to earn dividend any idea when

M H14:08:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Me too sometimes I need a 48hr day

Josep - eosBarcelona | BlockDappsLab.com14:08:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We will make token drops cheaper by not requiring issuers to deploy their own token contracts

Allowing other tokens to be distributed by eosio.token?

小王

小贱王14:08:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer Hey, Dan, there is a problem that has been bothering me. It is not cheating when the exchange's trading user votes for himself without knowing or authorizing it, and then elected the super node.

Tim Qiang14:08:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No, they get proof of burn already factored into price.

Ram is cheap now where is the dapps？

Roland14:09:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tim Qiang

Ram is cheap now where is the dapps？

not cheap enuff

Daniel Larimer14:09:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

wangxiaoJ

No. Exchanges own tokens. You own iou.

牛陡

牛陡镀14:09:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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moonwalker14:09:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

cpu time is cpu time per core? more cores can be added to scale after multi-threading is implemented?

Aneta14:09:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Instead they buy symbols from main token contract.

Token auctions?

Nick14:09:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Ram must auto send to eos voter

Andreas Beier14:09:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Daniel When you centralise the rental market on-chain you there is one big uninteded downside. No incentive to promote this resource. You need a referal system for that.

Nick14:10:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan agree it

Daniel Larimer14:10:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

az_crypto6181

cpu time is cpu time per core? more cores can be added to scale after multi-threading is implemented?

Perhaps, but math isn’t 1+1

Tim Qiang14:10:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rolandlim

not cheap enuff

Wonderful

Scott C14:10:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

wangxiaoJ

This is fud. Statements from reputable exchanges have already said that votes are delegated by token owners.

Daniel Larimer14:10:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

Token auctions?

Yes

Inaurius The First.14:11:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Right now if you don’t use your cpu you lose it. We will turn unused cpu rights of eos holders into revenue

I stake my EOS half in ram and half in cpu. Will this affect me?

Juan Wang14:11:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Don’t

It's not fair。

Aneta14:11:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Also premium name token auctions?

TJ14:11:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We will make token drops cheaper by not requiring issuers to deploy their own token contracts

And use an actual snapshot instead of genesis?

Daniel Larimer14:12:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Juan Wang

It's not fair。

Market already fixed it.

Shaqobi14:12:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If I could delegate some of my bandwith and cpu to a market maker and receive interests in return would be great. This would ensure that I always could use the cpu/bw (proportional to my stake) when needed. But I don't get why to create a new cpu token for it? Would that not overcomplicate things?

Noble-11714:12:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Market already fixed it.

Yes, we speculators did!

Biteos14:13:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

shaqobi

Juan Wang14:13:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

😔

Nick14:13:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Ram actually must out of market

Rich Mouj14:13:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

shaqobi

I agree

lakehere lake14:13:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Market already fixed it.

It is not market. It is unfair expansion, that will cost EOS reputation

vensoso14:14:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

EOS is not free, it is run in the way of the Soviet Union.

Tim Qiang14:14:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Market already fixed it.

You and your bps fixed it not market

lakehere lake14:14:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

or even more

Damodar Kumar14:14:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer i created account, but it eat 17$ for ram... this is redicolus bro

lakehere lake14:14:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tim Qiang

You and your bps fixed it not market

That is the most ridiculous unfair trading I have ever met.

Nick14:15:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Market already fixed it.

Our heart not.fixed yeah

ff darkness14:15:02 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dan 1.52 is great job.you are a great dev,a good king

Andreas Beier14:15:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer When you create a central market of renting resources you no longer have individual incentive to promote this market. You need to add a referal-system of some kind.

Bai14:15:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tim Qiang

You and your bps fixed it not market

it's a `bug`

Daniel Larimer14:15:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I think I can implement cpu token without changing system contract and therefore without changing rules.

Bai14:15:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

😂

Aneta14:15:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Instead they buy symbols from main token contract.

Currently deploying a contract is around 25K. Does it mean I’ll be able to buy a symbol for less? 🤔

Jarvis Wong14:15:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If RAM isn't used to drive the sidechain, why use the bancor algorithm and then expand it to suppress it, and every day there are new changes, which is irresponsible to the entire community, allowing members to pay for your decision.

Daniel Larimer14:15:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

Currently deploying a contract is around 25K. Does it mean I’ll be able to buy a symbol for less? 🤔

Likely

Tim Qiang14:16:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

I think I can implement cpu token without changing system contract and therefore without changing rules.

Wonderful

Noble-11714:16:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

By leaving it alone and letting it die. The dev/BP RAM expansion came AFTER we speculators abandoned the RAM market. Know your facts.

RM - Chaince14:16:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer do you have a testnet?

Roland14:17:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

I think I can implement cpu token without changing system contract and therefore without changing rules.

Will CPU trading use bancor too?

Tim Qiang14:17:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Likely

Why you so good

Nick14:17:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Trading cpu?

Nick14:17:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Are you crazy

Bai14:18:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rolandlim

Will CPU trading use bancor too?

Jarvis Wong14:18:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

The market is handed over to the market to deal with, rather than new changes every day.

鸿M

鸿 Mai14:18:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Thinking of the fact was that what you said changed rapily， like RAM，your words were from “it should be cost and will not be extended” to “1kb per block and pro RAM”，you might keep your opinions yourself but speak out，because it 网 i；；changed

小王

小贱王14:18:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Nick

Trading cpu?

What?

Roland14:18:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Hmmm.. What will happen to Chintai?

鸿M

鸿 Mai14:18:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Rich Mouj14:19:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Can you please explain why CPU trading isn't likely to cause the same problem ram did

明丁

明明丁14:19:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

EOS117

By leaving it alone and letting it die. The dev/BP RAM expansion came AFTER we speculators abandoned the RAM market. Know your facts.

xue14:19:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

😂

明丁

明明丁14:20:02 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

Warren Buffetti14:20:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Am I the only one who can not withdrraw from Binance??

fuckananan14:20:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y should shutup

ff darkness14:20:42 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dan don't text the cpu token code.just do it.because you are so good

kurumi14:20:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dan, So I can just keep my staked CPU as it is, right?

RM - Chaince14:20:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Warren Buffetti

Am I the only one who can not withdrraw from Binance??

they have problems, i believe they are resolving it or attempting to anyhow

鸿M

鸿 Mai14:20:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Give it to market，just follow market but not intervene it.

fuckananan14:20:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y should shutup

Juan Wang14:21:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Likely

What about ram？Dan，We trust you, but you are flexible😔😔😔

fuckananan14:21:02 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y should shutup

fuckananan14:21:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y should shutup

Weifeng14:21:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zzzzz1111ll

bm y should shutup

pay some respect

fuckananan14:21:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y should shutup

Jarvis Wong14:21:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

The change in the constitution of the RAM rules, shouldn't I vote for it by all community members, and you have defeated the confidence of the entire community.

TJ14:21:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zzzzz1111ll

bm y should shutup

Go back to the ADA channel or whatever shitcoin you invested in

jungsik14:22:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

fuckananan14:22:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y a son of bitch

fuckananan14:22:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y a son of bitch

Damodar Kumar14:22:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer please fix tis ram issues

Damodar Kumar14:22:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

its too costly with ram

Weifeng14:22:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

a ram speculator went crazy.

Karim14:22:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Warren Buffetti

Am I the only one who can not withdrraw from Binance??

No. It's being going on all day. They messed up their CPU stake wallet by staking only 0.1 EOS! for it which caused a halt..😅

鸿M

鸿 Mai14:22:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

The change in the constitution of the RAM rules, shouldn't I vote for it by all community members, and you have defeated the confidence of the entire community.

Bai14:22:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Go back to the ADA channel or whatever shitcoin you invested in

I think he invested in RAM more likely

fuckananan14:22:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y a son of bitch

Warren Buffetti14:23:02 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

No. It's being going on all day. They messed up their CPU stake wallet by staking only 0.1 EOS! for it which caused a halt..😅

Thanks

TRIDENTE | EOS |14:23:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zzzzz1111ll

bm y a son of bitch

Ban this idiot pls

vensoso14:23:25 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

DAN, you always say that it is fair to decide by the market, but every time you are breaking the fair and the market balance

fuckananan14:23:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm plz get out b1

fuckananan14:23:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm plz get out b1

fuckananan14:23:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm plz get out b1

fuckananan14:23:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bm y a son of bitch

Weifeng14:23:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

The change in the constitution of the RAM rules, shouldn't I vote for it by all community members, and you have defeated the confidence of the entire community.

constitution doesn't include RAM rules..

Karim14:23:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Stop spamming..

Roland14:23:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

No. It's being going on all day. They messed up their CPU stake wallet by staking only 0.1 EOS! for it which caused a halt..😅

If that's the case, it shouldn't be too difiicult to fix? Just stake some EOS will do

Shaqobi14:23:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

I think I can implement cpu token without changing system contract and therefore without changing rules.

It would be great if there would be a contract where you sign up once and then it delegates/leases your cpu/bw automaticly. So if you do tx or actions and need more resources it would unstake it from the cpu/bw market without an additional step

Tim Qiang14:24:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Stupid

Karim14:24:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rolandlim

If that's the case, it shouldn't be too difiicult to fix? Just stake some EOS will do

True but I believe it's so backed up that they probably cant do any action at this point..

Karim14:25:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Look at this...

Karim14:25:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Its over 3000%..

Yan Mavis14:25:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Let the market go free to determine the price, like BTC

hanson14:25:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Don’t

1.5*1024*1024 *0.17 value 267386.88 What is fair in the absence of solution?

Roland14:26:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

Its over 3000%..

We can overuse CPU? interesting...

Karim14:26:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

Its over 3000%..

All that cause the only staked 0.1 EOS for CPU...smh..😔😏

Jarvis Wong14:26:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jiangweifeng

constitution doesn't include RAM rules..

Well, the Constitution does not contain RAM rules, which means that Dan can freely express some opinions to influence the market. RAM is too cheap, will not change within a month, push up the price, then expand and kill it. God of EOS

lakehere lake14:26:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Hi Dan, I am hosting a group of 300+ EOS buyers, and RAM too. The expansion is unfairly, and also the ridiculous mistake 1.5 G. We request to fix the problem on behalf of every investor with dollars and the confidence on EOS team.

Jakob14:26:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer how will you prevent manipulation of CPU market by spamming the network?

Karim14:26:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rolandlim

We can overuse CPU? interesting...

It didnt know that was possible...I think it happens because rate limiting only quick in when the network usability raises

Bai14:26:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

lol even managed to break the UI 😂

Karim14:27:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

BINANCE probably thought that they could still ride on that Free! CPU coming from our pockets basically 😅

Damodar Kumar14:27:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

bai_abd

lol even managed to break the UI 😂

lol this really funny

Roland14:27:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

It didnt know that was possible...I think it happens because rate limiting only quick in when the network usability raises

So wouldn't this means devs can still use CPU even when CPU traders hoard it 😂

Damodar Kumar14:27:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

who is UI designer

Karim14:28:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Using our CPU from the tokens we staked for Voting for example

Joe14:28:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

CPU traders..

Joe14:28:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

erm yeah

Joe14:28:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

that's a real thing for sure

布

布鲁14:28:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

太疯狂了吧

Tim Qiang14:28:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

1.5*1024*1024 *0.17 value 267386.88 What is fair in the absence of solution?

He thinks that's a stupid question

Juan Wang14:28:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Don't call names

布

布鲁14:28:47 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

期货搞起来

Roland14:29:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mountain_cloud

CPU traders..

Cool. Allows stakeholders to rent out CPU resources and encourage voting. HODL EOS and become CPU lords

Jakob14:29:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

It didnt know that was possible...I think it happens because rate limiting only quick in when the network usability raises

The same happend to me after I opened 100 WIZBOXes. Had no EOS to delegate left, had to wait a week until recover

Karim14:29:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

rolandlim

So wouldn't this means devs can still use CPU even when CPU traders hoard it 😂

I think Dan is trying to fix that we the new token by making sure token holders gets paid! For the now free extra usage for CPU and bandwidth exchanges like Binance are using. Not a bad idea if you ask me 😁

Johnny M Kool14:29:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Juan Wang

Don't call names

Stop trying to control 😁

Natoshi Sakamoto14:30:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

lakehere

Go to ECAF please not Dan... this is decentralized blockchain somewhat controlled by ECAF

Juan Wang14:30:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

johnnyMkool

Stop trying to control 😁

I hope so

Natoshi Sakamoto14:30:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

@daniellarimer how will you prevent manipulation of CPU market by spamming the network?

Banchor

Jakob14:30:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Everyone should take their token out of centralized exchanges asap

Damodar Kumar14:30:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

johnnyMkool

Stop trying to control 😁

lol she tries to control other every time

Jarvis Wong14:30:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Likely

After the rules are specified, even if you want to change, please take some step-by-step measures, ok? This is not a child's game. Please carefully consider the reactions and consequences of the entire market, as well as the confidence of members of the EOS community.

Channel_Bot14:31:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEaQ93C4CyjRMSL-Hw

jim Zhang14:31:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer

jim Zhang14:31:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Dear Daniel: Hello, I am a big fan of EOS from China. Also your fans. The reason why it is a big fan is because I have full-stocked EOS from December last year, and I agreed with the design concept of EOS including 21 nodes including TPS. However, I have recently suffered almost desperate anxiety almost every day. First of all, about RAM, you first said on the telegram that RAM is still very cheap, it should be reasonable if 16eos/K. And say that within a month without expansion, in the Chinese community, when you promote RAM, many people began to interpret your future design concepts for RAM, such as "RAM is the model of future decentralized transactions", "RAM is used Cut the BP and the side of the project side." Coupled with your confidence in RAM, I took half of the positions to change RAM. At the time of starting 0.6eos, the result is now like this, and even if you want to sell future RAM effects, it seems that RAM has fallen into the bottomless pit. Now, RAM investors have become "speculators" in the community, and they have become the very few people who are called by everyone. And I never admit that I am a speculator. Since I entered the digital currency industry, I have never purchased any altcoin. I only bought BTC, LTC, and later I switched to EOS at the end of last year. Each operation is performed once every six months. However, I won the bear market and eventually planted in the RAM market. Someone may ask, why are you so radical, why do you trust BM so much? I trust you, not my feelings, I have read your autobiography, your marriage experience, I even prayed for your marriage and the projects you are doing now. In my mobile phone, I still have a cute photo in which you hold cat (from this year turned to a year ago, all kinds of psychological feelings). I believe in you because I feel that the unfair experience of your marriage and your experience in past projects will be your greatest motivation for achieving a decentralized system, and your talent can achieve this goal. I support EOS. I am never speculative. When I sprinkle candy on many projects, I support the BP node to vote. I lock the eos token to support the New York community, including Everipedia candy, which I have never taken. I know that voting is not profitable, but I support the EOS community and I am willing to lose these benefits. Now, in your vote with BPs, turning the whole situation into "if you support RAM is politically incorrect," it will be considered a pest of the community. BP and many people are saying that RAM is too expensive for DAPP developers to use EOS. In fact, you don't understand the situation. I have also participated in the (intermittent exit) blockchain project, and the project can get a lot of investment. A few hundred dollars, a few thousand dollars, in their eyes is really not what money. The irony is that when the price of RAM is flying well, the number of EOS wallets is more than the past and the present. When your comments affect the RAM price, it is said that speculators from China are going to telegram to you, I am sorry for them. I really beg you, can think for us, not a few "minority", maybe many people in this team have a lot of money to invest, but the money I invest is that I swipe the credit card And loans as a cost. It is for this reason that I only dare to invest in the most valuable and reliable projects. However, the results today are unacceptable. Dear Daniel, when you are thinking about the future of EOS, please don't ignore the supporters who love you with a small amount of money to support you. What we want is not to get rich overnight, but our hard-earned money can't be ashamed because of your inconsistent remarks. This is the life we can't bear.

Roland14:31:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

Yes, I like how Dan is trying to incentivize voting so as to promote voter participation. Voter turnout is still quite low now. If the fees collected are large enough, it will simultaneously disincentivize vote buying 👍

Johnny M Kool14:31:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

damuammu

lol she tries to control other every time

Obviously the the tiger mom instinct taking over 😁

hanson14:32:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

lakehere

Dan send me 10 million EOS, it doesn't need to be solved

Jakob14:32:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

Banchor

Bancor can't to nothing if people spamming DoSing the network with fake transactions like no shit

eos信徒14:32:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

fuckhuobi bp

hanson14:32:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Give me an additional hair, no need to solve it, no problem.

Green7714:32:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

The idea of cpu tokenize will dan paid for the idea to the owners? It was mentioned 3 weeks ago from ram speculators as there wish! Then he was just ignoring it- will sent him as evidence the chat history :D

hanson14:32:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

lakehere

V14:32:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I wana say something

Karim14:32:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

The same happend to me after I opened 100 WIZBOXes. Had no EOS to delegate left, had to wait a week until recover

Geez..for real..ho boy! I hope that doesn't happen with Binance 😅

Natoshi Sakamoto14:33:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

damuammu

lol she tries to control other every time

Seems hot should be able to control most of men😂

Johnny M Kool14:33:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

Move to Telos or Black, they are attempting to do Ram differently

Damodar Kumar14:33:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

Seems hot should be able to control most of men😂

😂😂😂 not all time

Tim Qiang14:34:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

You niu bi

Jakob14:34:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Karim

Geez..for real..ho boy! I hope that doesn't happen with Binance 😅

They have enough EOS (or money) to stake that CPU is good again. I think they aren't even aware of the problem

Johnny M Kool14:34:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Dan send me 10 million EOS, it doesn't need to be solved

Yes please

Jas14:34:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Eosfinix is coming more cpu are needed it will be expensive soon

lakehere lake14:35:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

Damodar Kumar14:35:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

me too big fan of EOS.... lol spent 0.6 btc on it

Damodar Kumar14:35:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hope this guy @daniellarimer make it run as bull

Johnny M Kool14:36:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

j_jas

Eosfinix is coming more cpu are needed it will be expensive soon

Jas is there are wizard channel we can talk in? Only found an announcement channel

hanson14:36:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

@daniellarimer

Jarvis Wong14:37:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

This is the consequence of the fact that you have not considered the consequences of the market and changed the rules at will. It may even lead to the bankruptcy of many people and the death of the family.

Karim14:37:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

They have enough EOS (or money) to stake that CPU is good again. I think they aren't even aware of the problem

No I think they do...I mean that's why they shut down deposit/withdrawal... I also think that what they were clueless about is how EOS works...I mean it's a rookie mistake when you are a BIG exchange and try to go cheap by staking 0.1 EOS for CPU..😅

moonwalker14:37:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Bancor can't to nothing if people spamming DoSing the network with fake transactions like no shit

If we catch them for spamming the network, we will spanking their butts

明丁

明明丁14:37:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

George Man14:37:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

WIZZ airgrab by EOSToolkit is Legit?

hanson14:38:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

David14:38:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

EOS is #2 on http://blocktivity.info/ lots of activity on the network today. Can anyone see where this activity is coming from?

Natoshi Sakamoto14:38:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

That’s emotional stuff dude.. feel for you.. but RAM speculators are not EOS community members I guess....he already told it was bet against him... but if you believe time heals all then HODL.. RAM will rise.. EOS will never be 1000$ without RAM atleast 5$

V14:38:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

I think I can implement cpu token without changing system contract and therefore without changing rules.

Dan :Why don’t you take your 💲4billion for a holiday? Or just go home and write your code? Does the ram holders have been hurt by you not enough? The whale voting mechanism, what the manipulated bps! Don’t forget your promise as the founder of EOS: Protect private property form being infringed!!!

jim Zhang14:38:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer please help us please hear us

Fow14:38:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

Rental and ownership. The owner sets the rental fees.

Then you have to bake in 3 day unstake so less efficient.

Yan Mavis14:38:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

Qc Yan14:38:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

Juan Wang14:39:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

👍👍 I'm on your side。

V14:39:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Look what you did!

Johnny M Kool14:39:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

waveout

EOS is #2 on http://blocktivity.info/ lots of activity on the network today. Can anyone see where this activity is coming from?

Me setting up my wizards 😁

Karim14:39:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

They have enough EOS (or money) to stake that CPU is good again. I think they aren't even aware of the problem

Look at Chaince for example..they did their research and understand how EOS works. Which is why they staked 1000 EOS! to avoid the type of problem Binance just created for itself.

David14:39:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

johnnyMkool

Me setting up my wizards 😁

LOL. Well then, keep it up! :)

Karim14:40:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

waveout

EOS is #2 on http://blocktivity.info/ lots of activity on the network today. Can anyone see where this activity is coming from?

It also always been there. It's just that the Devs got the proper info finally and fixed their API..😎

Natoshi Sakamoto14:40:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Bancor can't to nothing if people spamming DoSing the network with fake transactions like no shit

Remember SETRAMRATE? If people start spamming there will be SETCPURATE update by adding cores

C Gray14:40:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

poor child

Jarvis Wong14:40:51 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

RAM is too expensive, and every time the EOS price increases, it needs to expand RAM. So why not open up the market operation of RAM in the first place. The rules are changed easily, and the consequences are too serious.

Johnny M Kool14:40:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

waveout

LOL. Well then, keep it up! :)

Still can’t battle them tho.. trying to find a telegram channel for them

Johnny M Kool14:41:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jarvisEOS

Are you actually building a dap? How do you know it’s to expensive?

V14:41:34 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

V14:41:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If EOS go to hell

V14:41:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You deserve it

Natoshi Sakamoto14:42:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

damuammu

me too big fan of EOS.... lol spent 0.6 btc on it

Remember this after 7 years ..0.6 BTC..

Stephan14:42:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

anyone here good at photoshop ?

Johnny M Kool14:42:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Join us with your proxy at “investingwad”. We are the little accounts that are starting to add up to whale status, over 200 and counting

Damodar Kumar14:43:08 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

Remember this after 7 years ..0.6 BTC..

this is the highest i spent on my protfolio of 1btc

V14:43:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Shame on you asshole

V14:43:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Buy guys

Johnny M Kool14:43:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If you don’t proxy, you are letting the whales do what they want

Daniel Larimer14:44:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

1.5*1024*1024 *0.17 value 267386.88 What is fair in the absence of solution?

Nothing unfair happened. Ram supply was always in control of producers. There was no advanced knowledge of quirk. They cannot undo it as that would be reduced supply which is against rules.

Damodar Kumar14:44:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

i bought 100eos before mainnet 600 eos after mainnet lol

Karim14:44:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

twinjohn

The Rise of EOS!!! TO THE TOP 🔥☺️❤️

Alpha Seeker14:44:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

I think I can implement cpu token without changing system contract and therefore without changing rules.

We were sold a real estate ownership model for EOS. Own the token and own a % of the bandwidth on the network. I don't see the value of the token if everything gets split off as individual markets. Passive income from trading fees is interesting so I need to think about it more.

Bai14:44:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

twinjohn

🌑🌒🌓🌔🌝

V14:45:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nothing unfair happened. Ram supply was always in control of producers. There was no advanced knowledge of quirk. They cannot undo it as that would be reduced supply which is against rules.

But the bps is asshole ?what did you say

Alpha Seeker14:45:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

twinjohn

1.9mm??? Damn

Jarvis Wong14:45:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

johnnyMkool

Are you actually building a dap? How do you know it’s to expensive?

It's cheap now, where is dapp? If you don't want him to be expensive, the bancor algorithm is a mistake. Dan said that RAM is too cheap to add mistakes, which led to many development groups mistakenly estimating the situation to buy a lot of RAM reserves.

Daniel Larimer14:45:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zkmlegacy

It will still be real estate, we are just enabling renting

Bai14:45:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

I think I can implement cpu token without changing system contract and therefore without changing rules.

Inspired by project chicago?

lakehere lake14:45:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nothing unfair happened. Ram supply was always in control of producers. There was no advanced knowledge of quirk. They cannot undo it as that would be reduced supply which is against rules.

You are fooling us. We trust you by true us dollars.

Alpha Seeker14:45:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It will still be real estate, we are just enabling renting

I see, more cost efficient to have the rent happen via the bancor algo then individuals trying to lease themselves?

Daniel Larimer14:45:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Yes

Daniel Larimer14:46:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Like orderbooks vs otc

Johnny M Kool14:46:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zkmlegacy

Saw a break down at current RAM fee collection rate to current staking, we would get 10% annually

Jakob14:46:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

Remember SETRAMRATE? If people start spamming there will be SETCPURATE update by adding cores

No it's not possible to add CPU from BP side. CPU on EOS is calculated in processing time a contract needs not in CPU cores. They would have to invent a time maschine then...😂

fav14:46:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

doesn't sound bad to be honest thinking about it

Alpha Seeker14:46:30 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Yes

Okay I see the value... implement it! lol

V14:46:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Don’t forget your promise!protect private property!

V14:47:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Do something！

auther Leek14:47:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nothing unfair happened. Ram supply was always in control of producers. There was no advanced knowledge of quirk. They cannot undo it as that would be reduced supply which is against rules.

Alpha Seeker14:47:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I guess setting it up and make it fair for everyone can get tricky.

dreal14:47:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

cpu token

auther Leek14:47:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Yes

Jakob14:47:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer please answer how to prevent spammers from manipolating CPU price by flooding the network

Andreas Beier14:47:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer Don't forget to preserve the incentive for the individual to promote the rental resource. You might remove this incentive if you centralise the market.

Natoshi Sakamoto14:47:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

No it's not possible to add CPU from BP side. CPU on EOS is calculated in processing time a contract needs not in CPU cores. They would have to invent a time maschine then...😂

They invented SETRAMRATE without any actual RAM upgrades on all nodes.. so a time machine can be invented without having a time machine

auther Leek14:48:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Like orderbooks vs otc

fav14:48:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dude

V14:48:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

fav14:48:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

stop spamming

fav14:48:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

wtf

Roland14:48:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

auther Leek

Stop spamming!

Cone Swiss14:48:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

auther Leek

We have read this. Now please stop spamming

Jarvis Wong14:48:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Don’t forget your promise!protect private property!

Everyone is watching you, Dan

Juan Wang14:48:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nothing unfair happened. Ram supply was always in control of producers. There was no advanced knowledge of quirk. They cannot undo it as that would be reduced supply which is against rules.

I invested all in eos,i’m a big fan too ,but I'm going to die in ram😢😔😔

Jakob14:48:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

They invented SETRAMRATE without any actual RAM upgrades on all nodes.. so a time machine can be invented without having a time machine

You don't understand anything my friend...

Alpha Seeker14:48:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

@daniellarimer Don't forget to preserve the incentive for the individual to promote the rental resource. You might remove this incentive if you centralise the market.

Everyone who stakes collects the fees from ram, cpu and soon to be bandwidth markets

Natoshi Sakamoto14:48:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

You don't understand anything my friend...

I know.. 😛

V14:48:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

most eos holders was lost this time by your asshole bps

Johnny M Kool14:48:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer please come on Learn Crypto for an interview and respond the BS that Michael hoskinson just threw out about our community

叫

叫我强哥14:48:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nothing unfair happened. Ram supply was always in control of producers. There was no advanced knowledge of quirk. They cannot undo it as that would be reduced supply which is against rules.

你们用eos收割了我的金钱，用ram收割了我的eos，又用扩容收割了我的ram，不知道怎么形容自己的心情，如同基督教徒发现耶稣是的混蛋恶棍。😭

lakehere lake14:48:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson14:49:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It will still be real estate, we are just enabling renting

Reducing rules is a violation of the rules! Is it not a violation of the rules to make it out of thin air? All RAM costs! This is a question of code and constitution.

Jakob14:49:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Natoshi Sakamoto

They invented SETRAMRATE without any actual RAM upgrades on all nodes.. so a time machine can be invented without having a time machine

CPU is not a scarce Ressource made like RAM, it's generated by the overall network usage

yesterday14:49:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

fuck bm

Roland14:49:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You are not supposed to hoard RAM..

V14:49:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Forget about CPU your idiot

小王

小贱王14:49:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

most eos holders was lost this time by your asshole bps

They won't care.

Alpha Seeker14:49:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

CPU is not a scarce ressource like RAM, it's generated by the overall network usage

all resources on the network is scarce.

Andreas Beier14:49:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@zkmlegacy Tragedy of the commons can be the reason why on individual will promote the market.

Natoshi Sakamoto14:49:57 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

CPU is not a scarce ressource like RAM, it's generated by the overall network usage

That’s the whole point then who will rent or buy it

Roland14:50:00 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Reducing rules is a violation of the rules! Is it not a violation of the rules to make it out of thin air? All RAM costs! This is a question of code and constitution.

Rules change all the time in all markets... accounting for this is part of the risk of speculation

V14:50:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

let CPU go

Fow14:50:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Cannot give more heads up than floating an idea hours after conceived.

😉

V14:50:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Please your mother fcker

Alpha Seeker14:50:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

@zkmlegacy Tragedy of the commons can be the reason why on individual will promote the market.

What you talking about? Anyone who needs resources interacts with the bancor smart contract. Token holders stake and auto collect fees from this efficent rent model.

V14:51:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Shame on you

Alpha Seeker14:51:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Instead of figuring out how much to lease your tokens for and to whom, the bancor algo does it for you automatically

hanson14:51:20 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Yes

Bug of the code you say it's a standard rule! You're trying to manipulate the price!

Daniel Larimer14:51:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hanson

Reducing rules is a violation of the rules! Is it not a violation of the rules to make it out of thin air? All RAM costs! This is a question of code and constitution.

Nope. Was always in the cards to increase ram over time

Andreas Beier14:51:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@zkmlegacy I am talking about promoting the resource to external platforms or users.

Jakob14:51:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zkmlegacy

all resources on the network is scarce.

Sure because of hardware limitations but CPU is measured in time while RAM is measured in Bytes

Sven14:51:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Hey Guys ! I have a Problem with my EOS Wallet. It Always Transfers my EOS To my coinfalcon (Exchange) Account. I used coinfalcon for token Swap (from erc-20 To mainnet). Can you Help me?

Alpha Seeker14:52:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

@zkmlegacy I am talking about promoting the resource to external platforms or users.

Yes you promote more usage of the system since all resources will be cheaper since right now it's all sitting idly unused.

Andrew Norris14:52:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Like orderbooks vs otc

+1, good idea

Jakob14:52:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nope. Was always in the cards to increase ram over time

Yes you can add more RAM if 50% or more is actually really in use

Jakob14:52:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Yes you can add more RAM if 50% or more is actually really in use

What BPs did was stupid

Natoshi Sakamoto14:52:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Sure because of hardware limitations but CPU is measured in time while RAM is measured in Bytes

Lol

Alpha Seeker14:53:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

What BPs did was stupid

BPs followed Dan's suggestion which was the right call

Andreas Beier14:53:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@zkmlegacy Cheaper will not sell it to people who don't know it is there. You need to maintain a incentive for the individual to do PR:

jim Zhang14:53:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Please help us

Juan Wang14:53:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nope. Was always in the cards to increase ram over time

We poor fans

hanson14:53:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nope. Was always in the cards to increase ram over time

This explanation is reasonable! But the principle of repairing bug is missing!

Alpha Seeker14:53:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

@zkmlegacy Cheaper will not sell it to people who don't know it is there. You need to maintain a incentive for the individual to do PR:

What incentive?

hadrian14:53:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Sven_Ko

Hey Guys ! I have a Problem with my EOS Wallet. It Always Transfers my EOS To my coinfalcon (Exchange) Account. I used coinfalcon for token Swap (from erc-20 To mainnet). Can you Help me?

? Which wallet?

jim Zhang14:53:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@daniellarimer

pbsteen14:54:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

It will still be real estate, we are just enabling renting

So if the token holder wants to utilize their cpu they can, however if they are not using it the system would make use of it creating income for the token holder? If that’s the case the token holder only gains and doesn’t loose anything

Andreas Beier14:54:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@zkmlegacy The incentive to generate a ROI on your EOS resources. "realestate"

hanson14:54:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Solve problems that do not need to be solved 😂😂😂😂😂

Jakob14:54:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zkmlegacy

BPs followed Dan's suggestion which was the right call

Dan was talking about a couple of bytes per block, BPs setramrate to 1KB per block

hanson14:54:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Waste time

Mina Bebawy14:55:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Cpu needs you attention now...

Xiao Xingxing14:55:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Buy

Alpha Seeker14:55:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

@zkmlegacy The incentive to generate a ROI on your EOS resources. "realestate"

Ram trading fees alone is making EOS deflationary. It makes sense to do the same with CPU and bandwidth. Token holders who stake will collect the trading fees. The ROI is much better this way AND you make the network resources 10x cheaper to use.

Alpha Seeker14:56:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Dan was talking about a couple of bytes per block, BPs setramrate to 1KB per block

Dan said 1kb per block and thats what they implemented.

jim Zhang14:56:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I love cat love bm and your cat.please dont leave us

Sven14:56:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hadrianBTS

? Which wallet?

I use eos-tracker.io with scatter. If you want To Take a Look, My Account is: haztcmbsgmge

AnCapSnek14:57:01 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

minabebawy2018

Cpu needs you attention now...

I've always thought that everyone whining about RAM was missing the real expense of using EOS.

Juan Wang14:57:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jim Zhang

I love cat love bm and your cat.please dont leave us

me too

Sven14:57:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hadrianBTS

? Which wallet?

I use eos-tracker.io with scatter If you want To Take a Look on my account: haztcmbsgmge

Jarvis Wong14:58:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

It's time to change some ETH BTC. Every day there are new changes, sorry, we are too naive, your white paper is so good. I read it carefully, I believe, my fault. I surrender.

Jakob14:58:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

zkmlegacy

Dan said 1kb per block and thats what they implemented.

Stupid... Market totally going crazy from volatility. Befor the setramfuckup it was expensive but stable. Now it is a mess for developers

Andreas Beier14:58:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

@zkmlegacy I am promoting a referal system to reward the individual for doing PR if you centralise the rental market of resources.

dandroidos14:58:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

any reason I would be using 127% CPU(15 EOS Staked) when I havent made a transaction in days?

Sven14:58:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hadrianBTS

? Which wallet?

I use the online Wallet with scatter. My Account is: haztcmbsgmge

hanson14:58:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

多出来的bug 是不需要修复的！侵犯eos 和ram 的价值 The multi - out bug doesn't need to be repaired! Infringement of the value of EOS and ram

Jakob14:58:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

They don't know when to buy. Now? Tomorrow? Or right before release of their contracg

Crypto Venom14:58:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hi. 👋🏻 anyone else having wallet maintenance on BINANCE .. it’s been almost 2 days. I have not received my deposit on Binance in over 2 days. Can Eos 911 help me? How many books make a successful transaction?

hanson14:58:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

The multi - out bug doesn't need to be repaired! Infringement of the value of EOS and ram

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale14:59:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

I've always thought that everyone whining about RAM was missing the real expense of using EOS.

It really is

Alpha Seeker14:59:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mughat

@zkmlegacy I am promoting a referal system to reward the individual for doing PR if you centralise the rental market of resources.

Isn't that what the worker proposal system is for?

Mina Bebawy15:00:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

I've always thought that everyone whining about RAM was missing the real expense of using EOS.

Yes these prices are with the current price of EOS. What would happen when the price of EOS moves to 100 $. What about doing like doing like ven 1 ven =100 vet 1 EOS = 100 meos Mini eos

Alpha Seeker15:00:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Stupid... Market totally going crazy from volatility. Befor the setramfuckup it was expensive but stable. Now it is a mess for developers

Nah market just repricing with added new supply. Give it a week or two and itll stabalize again

AnCapSnek15:00:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dandroidos

any reason I would be using 127% CPU(15 EOS Staked) when I havent made a transaction in days?

I noticed something similar the other day. It appeared that I needed to use CPU before my expired CPU usage would decay.

dandroidos15:01:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

I noticed something similar the other day. It appeared that I needed to use CPU before my expired CPU usage would decay.

Thanks, I'll try making tx

AnCapSnek15:02:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dandroidos

Thanks, I'll try making tx

Only problem is that you can't if you are over CPU. I had to stake more CPU from one of my other accounts...

G15:02:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

If i have my EOS tokens stored on the blockchain with the original generated keys from the token distribution…what kind of keys are they? Owner keys or Active keys?

dandroidos15:02:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

Only problem is that you can't if you are over CPU. I had to stake more CPU from one of my other accounts...

I have 15 EOS staked in CPU

AnCapSnek15:02:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

G011235

If i have my EOS tokens stored on the blockchain with the original generated keys from the token distribution…what kind of keys are they? Owner keys or Active keys?

both.

dandroidos15:03:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

both.

15 in CPU and 1.6 in network

AnCapSnek15:04:23 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

dandroidos

15 in CPU and 1.6 in network

The both thing was in response to G.

G15:04:35 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

both.

but it’s only pair…public and private

dandroidos15:04:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

The both thing was in response to G.

lol my bad

AnCapSnek15:05:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

G011235

but it’s only one pair…public and private

The owner and active can be the same key. (and were by default on launch)

G15:05:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

The owner and active can be the same key. (and were by default on launch)

got it. can i get a new active key without changing the owner key?

Natoshi Sakamoto15:06:05 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Stupid... Market totally going crazy from volatility. Befor the setramfuckup it was expensive but stable. Now it is a mess for developers

As a developer I want RAM free ‘.’

AnCapSnek15:06:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

G011235

got it. can i get a new active key without changing the owner key?

Yes and it is recommended. Just make sure you are using a legit key generator on a secure computer.

Katie Roman - eostalk.io15:06:40 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

The Complete Guide to Moving EOS Tokens Off Of An Exchange: Hey EOS New Yorkers! We’ve put together the complete guide to moving your EOS tokens off an exchange. From Scatter, to Owner Keys, to Voting, it covers it all! Feedback is welcome! https://steemit.com/eos/@eosnewyork/the-complete-guide-for-moving-eos-tokens-off-of-exchanges

G15:06:56 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

Yes and it is recommended. Just make sure you are using a legit key generator on a secure computer.

any suggestion?

AnCapSnek15:08:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

G011235

any suggestion?

scatter and greymass are bp endorsed and both have key generators.

AnCapSnek15:08:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I've used scatter to generate several pairs myself.

AnCapSnek15:09:12 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

but DYOR. ;)

hanson15:09:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Nope. Was always in the cards to increase ram over time

Understand and support your statement 👍👍😅

Neel Raizada15:10:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Helllllllooooooo still blocked

AnCapSnek15:11:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

"RAM is too expensive!" "OMG they crashed the RAM market it's too cheap!" 😜

E. T.15:14:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

is there a DEX for EOS tokens

hadrian15:14:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Sven_Ko

I use the online Wallet with scatter. My Account is: haztcmbsgmge

Which wallet are you using with scatter? Are you trying to transfer eos to a different account (not coinfalcon)?

weirdzard15:14:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

jackmi95

Everyone should take their token out of centralized exchanges asap

problem is some exchanges still have deposits and withdrawals frozen since mainnet launch.

G15:15:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

AnCapSnek

scatter and greymass are bp endorsed and both have key generators.

thank’s

G15:15:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

will ledger add eos wallet?

Gibwomble15:17:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

G011235

will ledger add eos wallet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg9oWRc0MGc

Oyl15:18:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

http://special.ccidnet.com/pub-bc-eval/index.shtml Currently #1

G15:25:33 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Gibwomble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg9oWRc0MGc

👌

Heisenberg9915:27:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

EOS the real sky net

鸿M

鸿 Mai15:28:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Open up the trading of RAM in order to increase the efficiency about the use of RAM by giving it to who pays more，but now they make it cheap，so what your purpose after all.

Gibwomble15:30:09 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

mmm cheap RAM

The Crypto Type15:32:43 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Gibwomble

mmm cheap RAM

it's just going to keep going down

Chulupa15:32:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

how would I check which BP's a user voted for?

BD M15:33:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Wiggums

how would I check which BP's a user voted for?

eostoolkit i think can help with that

Biteos15:33:14 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Wiggums

how would I check which BP's a user voted for?

bloks.io

Falling Water15:33:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water15:35:26 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

So are we burning fees from this resource casino , or are they going to users who stake ?

Biteos15:36:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

So are we burning fees from this resource casino , or are they going to users who stake ?

seems like dan is propsing that it goes to users who stake

Falling Water15:36:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Can someone confirm this, Dan ?

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale15:37:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

When does b1 wallet release ？Is there any message ？

Gibwomble15:37:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

Can someone confirm this, Dan ?

scroll up

Gibwomble15:38:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

TheCryptoType

it's just going to keep going down

viva the price fall 🙂

Gibwomble15:38:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

curtiscoin

When does b1 wallet release ？Is there any message ？

did b1 say they would release a wallet ?

Falling Water15:39:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I can't find any reference

Gibwomble15:43:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

We are working on it.

u didn't look hard enough....here it is

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale15:43:31 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Gibwomble

did b1 say they would release a wallet ?

B1 will provide wallet to create free account

Gibwomble15:45:37 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

curtiscoin

B1 will provide wallet to create free account

they will ?

Falling Water15:46:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

seem to me we will have to buy into these resource tokens to rent them out

D-

Darren - WEOS15:46:29 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Anyone know of a RAM price notifier app out there yet?

Biteos15:47:18 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

seem to me we will have to buy into these resource tokens to rent them out

most likely airdropped, doesn't make sense for ppl to buy again when they already have eos

Falling Water15:47:59 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

no we have eos to buy into them, eos is the currency for them

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Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale15:50:15 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Gibwomble

they will ?

Yes

Falling Water15:51:46 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

C-

Curtis -BuiltOnEOS.io Sale15:51:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

It will be a big news for RAM buyers when b1 wallet releases

Falling Water15:52:17 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

we will be staking resource tokens for rent, not eos

Way Grah15:52:27 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Daniel Larimer15:53:45 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

So here is how I see it working, you send your eos to a smart contract, this contract delegates it to others for 30 days for price. Income from delegation shared by all who fund contract.

Daniel Larimer15:55:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

You can withdraw your eos from contract at a profit

Sven15:56:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

hadrianBTS

Which wallet are you using with scatter? Are you trying to transfer eos to a different account (not coinfalcon)?

I use the online Wallet from eostracker . io. No I dont want To Transfer Any EOS. Its already the second time that my EOS Transfers To my Coinfalcon and I dont have Any Idea why

Alejandro Pacheco15:56:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

So here is how I see it working, you send your eos to a smart contract, this contract delegates it to others for 30 days for price. Income from delegation shared by all who fund contract.

https://github.com/alepacheco/resource_exchange

Falling Water15:56:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

who gets the voting power from that contract ?

Biteos15:57:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

You can withdraw your eos from contract at a profit

can we do with while we have our tokens staked and voting? or do they have to be unstaked?

Falling Water15:57:48 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

unstaked

Roland15:59:10 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

So here is how I see it working, you send your eos to a smart contract, this contract delegates it to others for 30 days for price. Income from delegation shared by all who fund contract.

Do I get to vote still?

Aneta15:59:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

So here is how I see it working, you send your eos to a smart contract, this contract delegates it to others for 30 days for price. Income from delegation shared by all who fund contract.

And what this contracts uses our tokens for?

Fow15:59:53 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Would be better if they could also be staked at same time.

Roland16:00:07 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Falling Water

who gets the voting power from that contract ?

Yah, allowing people to rent tokens to vote will be disasatrous

Daniel Larimer16:00:21 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

And what this contracts uses our tokens for?

Delegating

Falling Water16:00:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

And what this contracts uses our tokens for?

resource tokens

Aneta16:00:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Delegating

for voting?

Daniel Larimer16:00:39 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Daniel Larimer16:00:49 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Voting cannot be delegated

Tommy16:00:50 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Ram right

Daniel Larimer16:01:16 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Tommy16:01:28 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Wait what?

by16:01:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Why not do something practical, but think about the market all day long？the official wallet has not come out yet

Tommy16:01:41 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Jesus eos is confusing when u get into the nitty gritty

Crown Crypto16:01:44 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

Voting cannot be delegated

So would we still be able to vote if we sent our eos to the contract?

Roland16:02:24 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Owner of leased token should retain the ability to vote

weirdzard16:02:36 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Aneta_EOS

for voting?

for cpu resources..

Falling Water16:02:52 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

no I don't think you could vote with eos tokens you no longer have

Tommy16:02:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I meant like lending ram and all that

t7816:02:58 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

CrownCrypto

So would we still be able to vote if we sent our eos to the contract?

if you have staked eos, you willalways be able to vote

Daniel Larimer16:03:04 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

CrownCrypto

So would we still be able to vote if we sent our eos to the contract?

No. This is why building it into system works better

Roland16:03:06 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Or possible to just delegate bandwidth to the smart contract instead of sending entire token?

Aneta16:04:22 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. This is why building it into system works better

so people will prefer sending it to the contract rather than voting. What about voters turnout?

Roland16:04:54 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Or we stake EOS, get CPU tokens, which we can send to smart contract for leasing?

露陈

露峰陈16:05:03 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Fuck U MUM FUCK U TOO

Biteos16:05:11 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

I think Dan is saying this is why we need to make CPU and Bandwidth into tokens, because we wouldn't be able to delegate our tokens for interest and stake to vote at the same time?

Roland16:05:32 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Pls be respectful to your mum 😂

Aneta16:05:38 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

So here is how I see it working, you send your eos to a smart contract, this contract delegates it to others for 30 days for price. Income from delegation shared by all who fund contract.

delegates to who?

hadrian16:05:55 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

Sven_Ko

I use the online Wallet from eostracker . io. No I dont want To Transfer Any EOS. Its already the second time that my EOS Transfers To my Coinfalcon and I dont have Any Idea why

Are you saying that your eos are getting transferred to coinfalcon without you doing anything? You said you used coinfalcon for the transition from erc-20 to mainnet - how did that work (I don't know coinfalcon)? Who owns the account haztcmbsgmge? Did coinfalcon create it for you? Do you have the private key(s)? Maybe you should change the keys to ones which only you know? Sorry, but I don't know what coinfalcon is or does.

Brandsbye16:06:13 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

daniellarimer

No. This is why building it into system works better

I wanna learn a lot....... where? Please....

Falling Water16:06:19 - 28 Jul 2018 [UTC]

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