Thursday, 28 June 2018

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RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)15:06:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
goforgold101
I received CET and ADD, no CETOS yet. Any registration?
CETOS was renewing RAM. Should be soon.
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Amar15:08:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Amar: Im one of these .3% who has not registered and has no outgoing transactions... I can wait for a solution,... Even a year if necessary, couse i'm long Therm.. Just tell me if someone gonna take care about it... Thx
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Amar15:08:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Any info?
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The Third15:08:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
finchify
CETOS was renewing RAM. Should be soon.
As a BP . What are your thoughts on the price of RAM for clients who are looking to deliver Airdrops but could get priced out due to volitility in RAM price ?
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Amar15:08:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Asking since days and noone answers
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D@meer15:10:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/IRViEWwo-BITCOIN-WE-ARE-ALMOST-OUT-OF-BEAR-22-000-CryptoManiac101/
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)15:10:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
As a BP . What are your thoughts on the price of RAM for clients who are looking to deliver Airdrops but could get priced out due to volitility in RAM price ?
RAM will stabilize over time as we continue to add RAM. When speculators get burned, they will stop speculating on RAM.
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)15:11:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Amar
Amar: Im one of these .3% who has not registered and has no outgoing transactions... I can wait for a solution,... Even a year if necessary, couse i'm long Therm.. Just tell me if someone gonna take care about it... Thx
Contact EOS Authority - they are the ones assisting with this process.
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ric @rictoken15:11:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hi guys, could someone check greymass website? it is not working for me, wondering if it is because of my firewall or you do have same problem. On github everything looks fine. thanks
JW
Jason Willis15:12:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
NVdovin
A lot of people use mobiles. I think it would have gone 1000% smoother if a mobile version was out
I think that would have taken longer and would have been a whole other mess. With mobile apps, don't they have to be audited before they ever hit whatever app store? I imagine that could take while.
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Navayeus15:12:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Does anyone know when our eos held hostage in exodus will be released
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ric @rictoken15:13:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Does anyone know when our eos held hostage in exodus will be released
https://support.exodus.io/article/757-eos-claiming-your-eos-with-simpleos
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)15:13:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Please someone build a decentralized Slack on EOS. So tired of all the Slack downtime.
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Navayeus15:14:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ric_rictoken
https://support.exodus.io/article/757-eos-claiming-your-eos-with-simpleos
Thanks mate
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ric @rictoken15:14:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Thanks mate
πŸ‘
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Biteos15:15:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I got an EOX airdrop
KI
Kivanc Ilisulu15:15:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
goforgold101
I received CET and ADD, no CETOS yet. Any registration?
I diddnt recieve Cet, i recieved cetos and add. cetos twitted that becouse of the ram price they may stop the airdrop
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)15:15:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
biteos
I got an EOX airdrop
EOX is going out now as well
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Biteos15:16:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I have absolutely no idea what any of these projects do except eosdac lol
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露峰 ι™ˆ15:17:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Good
KI
Kivanc Ilisulu15:17:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
What is jungle testnet?
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mandn15:17:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Kivancilisulu
What is jungle testnet?
Exactly that
HH
hodor hodor15:18:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jeanmouloud
My eos are on an exchange. Where I have to hodl my eos to benefit from future airdrop ?
All these airdrops are so exciting. Can't wait to interact with all of them. It's going to be a full time job.
HH
hodor hodor15:19:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Don't know why that was a reply.
DC
David Cooper15:19:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Does anyone know when our eos held hostage in exodus will be released
You friend need to get up off your sofa and get yourself an EOS wallet - as Exodus could be weeks/months away before full integration.
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Navayeus15:19:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Im downloadin simpleos
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The Third15:20:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
finchify
RAM will stabilize over time as we continue to add RAM. When speculators get burned, they will stop speculating on RAM.
In a way that is reassuring. But should eos have been set up in such a way where you have the option to speculate with the price of RAM ? It's like leaving sweets (candy) on the table in view of an undisaplined adolescent.
KI
Kivanc Ilisulu15:20:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
biteos
I have absolutely no idea what any of these projects do except eosdac lol
U can find something on their websites
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Navayeus15:20:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Im keeping 100 nice even number
DC
David Cooper15:20:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Im downloadin simpleos
Good move.
KI
Kivanc Ilisulu15:21:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Exactly that
There are new tokens on jungle testnet, does it mean that new airdrops coming
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mandn15:23:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Kivancilisulu
There are new tokens on jungle testnet, does it mean that new airdrops coming
Possibly and Germany are going home πŸ˜‚
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Toooolie15:23:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
greymass in the top 2...lets get these boys up more!!
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Toooolie15:23:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
top 21
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Jairotrader15:27:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hello
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Jairotrader15:27:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Can i buy Eos coin somehwere
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Jairotrader15:27:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
No t the token
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Darren - WEOS15:28:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Any word on Bancor on EOS yet?
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Shae15:29:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hooray, got my CET as well
OS
Olexandr Shalakhin15:29:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Is it possible to launch own eos network for own app?
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MaxEOS15:31:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I feel like ram purshasing will be one of the next things to go
DK
Damodar Kumar15:32:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
what is CET eosiochaince airdrop i see in my wallet
LG
lu guo15:33:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
bmε―ε¦ζŠŠδ»²θ£εŠŸθƒ½ε±θ”½ζŽ‰ε‘€,
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lu guo15:33:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
δΈε±θ”½ζΆ¨δΈεŠ¨ε‘€
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mandn15:34:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jairotrader
Can i buy Eos coin somehwere
Binance, Bitfinex, Kraken
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Jairotrader15:35:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
great going to check
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Paul15:36:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That ram price is getting ridiculous
JW
Jason Willis15:37:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Paul
That ram price is getting ridiculous
What's it at?
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Paul15:37:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
There should never be a reason for it to ever get to $1. Its at $.62
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jmw41115:38:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Has binance suspended the withdrawals of EOS so it can accumulate a massive amount for itself through people selling, and then later, use those tokens to vote for themselves as block producers on the EOS blockchain?
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Paul15:38:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Just add a tb of ram
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Paul15:40:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I guess i don’t know the reasoning behind the small amount of ram, so adding a TB might not help. But that price is getting high.
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links o715:40:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Wow I got eosiochaince
CM
C Mr15:41:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
When is the price of EOS up to $20
SH
SC13 HAL 900015:41:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Eos giving blockchain bad press, currently ?
FR
Francisco Rodriguez15:42:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
C Mr
When is the price of EOS up to $20
not any time soon, maybe 2+ yrs
DD
David de Cardenas15:42:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How long will new projects use the genesis snapshot instead of using a more recent one?
DD
David de Cardenas15:42:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
iThinkPro
not any time soon, maybe 2+ yrs
πŸ‘ŽπŸ½
FR
Francisco Rodriguez15:42:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
truth hurts man, im hurting too but i accepted my fate
JW
Jason Willis15:43:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jmw411
Has binance suspended the withdrawals of EOS so it can accumulate a massive amount for itself through people selling, and then later, use those tokens to vote for themselves as block producers on the EOS blockchain?
How would it accumulate more is they disabled deposits?
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Jairotrader15:43:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
uxin acba de salir
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Jairotrader15:43:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
observando
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philip kirkbride15:43:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I heard ECAF will ban Dan?
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SC13 HAL 900015:43:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
buy Credits , undervalued
DK
Damodar Kumar15:44:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Kirkins
I heard ECAF will ban Dan?
this is big joke
JW
Jason Willis15:44:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jmw411
Has binance suspended the withdrawals of EOS so it can accumulate a massive amount for itself through people selling, and then later, use those tokens to vote for themselves as block producers on the EOS blockchain?
Binance still holds the same amount as when the freeze first happened, because no EOS have been deposited or withdrawn since then.
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jmw41115:44:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
People hold their personal tokens on the exchange. When people sell them for ethereum or whatever, maybe binance is buying them? Idk... I'm just wigging out
GD
George Bell DUCATUR Founder & CEO15:44:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Kirkins
I heard ECAF will ban Dan?
ECAF will ban itself that would be interesting πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”
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jmw41115:45:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Binance still holds the same amount as when the freeze first happened, because no EOS have been deposited or withdrawn since then.
People hold their personal tokens on the exchange. When people sell them for ethereum or whatever, maybe binance is buying them? Idk... I'm just wigging out
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Phideas15:45:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
creation code
JW
Jason Willis15:46:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jmw411
People hold their personal tokens on the exchange. When people sell them for ethereum or whatever, maybe binance is buying them? Idk... I'm just wigging out
Well..no that doesn't matter. The over all amount on the exchange is still the same. You realize that when you put anything on an exchange, you're essentially just putting it into one big wallet.
DD
David de Cardenas15:46:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Wow there is so so so much FUD on EOS right now
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eeeagle15:47:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
why don't ECAF ban all chinese exchange releated BPs ?? they lock all users EOS to vote for themself!!
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Walrus15:47:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ddecarde
Wow there is so so so much FUD on EOS right now
Are you surprised?
DD
David de Cardenas15:47:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It makes me excited because that means there’s more potential for upside when the ignorant fudsters get proven wrong
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ComfyOwl15:47:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Any EOS news?
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ComfyOwl15:47:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It pumped
DD
David de Cardenas15:47:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
cryptobrainiac
Are you surprised?
Not too surprised, I think all great projects need their fair share of FUD
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MD15:47:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Any mobile wallet developed yet?
DD
David de Cardenas15:48:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
cryptobrainiac
Are you surprised?
If there was no FUD I would actually be worried...
LO
links o715:48:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
tolulade
i'm driving right now and this car just over took me. Interesting
Naija
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eeeagle15:48:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
why don't ECAF ban all chinese exchange releated BPs ?? they lock all users EOS to vote for themself!!
JW
Jason Willis15:48:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
eeeagle19
why don't ECAF ban all chinese exchange releated BPs ?? they lock all users EOS to vote for themself!!
Stop posting the same message.
JW
Jason Willis15:49:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
eeeagle19
why don't ECAF ban all chinese exchange releated BPs ?? they lock all users EOS to vote for themself!!
And what are you talking about?
JW
Jason Willis15:49:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ComfyOwl
It pumped
Maybe because Dan is redoing constitution and is throwing out article XV.
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eeeagle15:51:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
huobi,okex,zb lock all users' EOS to vote for themself to be BPs. these chinese exchanges lock all users' EOS for about 15 days.
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eeeagle15:51:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ECAF should ban all these BPs forever!
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Jesse15:52:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Throwing out XV?
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Jesse15:53:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That’s “Publishing” right?
JW
Jason Willis15:53:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
eeeagle19
huobi,okex,zb lock all users' EOS to vote for themself to be BPs. these chinese exchanges lock all users' EOS for about 15 days.
That is totally at the fault of the community for leaving their EOS on the exchange.
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wishxy15:54:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
When I check my EOS on eospark.com I see only 90 EOS of 100.6 EOS have staking, 10 EOS stay unstaked. Why is that? https://prnt.sc/k01a56
NV
Nikita Vdovin15:54:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
I think that would have taken longer and would have been a whole other mess. With mobile apps, don't they have to be audited before they ever hit whatever app store? I imagine that could take while.
They had a year to develop and audit an app 🀦‍♂️
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eeeagle15:54:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
other BPs should do something with these chinese BPs.
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rob15:54:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I have reason to believe dan won’t be able to change the constitution
JW
Jason Willis15:54:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
NVdovin
They had a year to develop and audit an app 🀦‍♂️
Block one isn't running the blockchain. It wouldn't be fair to the community and developers if block one did everything, less decentralized.
JW
Jason Willis15:55:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
NVdovin
They had a year to develop and audit an app 🀦‍♂️
Plus how would they audit an app that works on a blockchain that didn't exist?
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eeeagle15:56:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
every single people is a holder of EOS not these chinese exchanges who lock all EOS to vote for themself!
NV
Nikita Vdovin15:56:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Plus how would they audit an app that works on a blockchain that didn't exist?
Where there is a will there is a way especially with 4 billion
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The Third15:56:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Block one isn't running the blockchain. It wouldn't be fair to the community and developers if block one did everything, less decentralized.
I'm board of decentralisation...as long as the ledger are true and open that's all that matters.
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ButtHole15:56:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How do I add these air drops to wallet.? How to get custom token info??
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Toooolie15:57:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
BlackHole
How do I add these air drops to wallet.? How to get custom token info??
get the latest greymass wallet
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Toooolie15:57:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I got mine CET airdrop
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ButtHole15:58:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I have latest wallet but how to add the token?
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Toooolie15:59:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
go to wallet tab
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Toooolie15:59:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
right side you should see add custom tokens
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ButtHole15:59:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I see it. What goes in 'contract account name'?
VP
Venkat Pasham16:01:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
tinyurl.com/y933svlk
VP
Venkat Pasham16:01:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Is EOS doing any airdrop ?
JW
Jason Willis16:02:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
NVdovin
Where there is a will there is a way especially with 4 billion
Whether possible or not, it's not Block one's place to develop it and have it ready at launch. They never said they would have that. They developed the software for the blockchain. That's what we all bought into. If you're expecting more than that, it's just your own problem for not fully understanding what you were investing in. EOS was designed to be community run, including the dapps.
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Venkat Pasham16:02:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I see some airdrop adds in some other telegram groups
JW
Jason Willis16:03:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
I'm bored of decentralisation...as long as the ledger are true and open that's all that matters.
I'm not particularly one way or the other when it come to decentralization. However, creating a decentralized blockchain was the goal of block one. So that's why it is the way it is.
JW
Jason Willis16:03:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ve_83
Is EOS doing any airdrop ?
EOS will not be airdroped?
VP
Venkat Pasham16:05:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
toooolie
I got mine CET airdrop
Any site to follow and register for EOS supported airdrops ?
JW
Jason Willis16:05:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ve_83
Any site to follow and register for EOS supported airdrops ?
You really shouldn't have to register for most airdrops.
NV
Nikita Vdovin16:05:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Whether possible or not, it's not Block one's place to develop it and have it ready at launch. They never said they would have that. They developed the software for the blockchain. That's what we all bought into. If you're expecting more than that, it's just your own problem for not fully understanding what you were investing in. EOS was designed to be community run, including the dapps.
I think you are mistaking my opinion on eos. I actually strongly believe in the project and know exactly what I invested into. It’s very disappointing that you clearly blindly defending eos when there are clear downfalls. I am sure there will be improvements in the future I just expected more from the start.
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mandn16:06:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
You really shouldn't have to register for most airdrops.
πŸŽ―πŸ‘
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mandn16:06:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ve_83
Any site to follow and register for EOS supported airdrops ?
airdropsforeos.com
VP
Venkat Pasham16:06:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
airdropsforeos.com
Thank you
VP
Venkat Pasham16:06:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
πŸŽ―πŸ‘
I heard we need to register for some airdrops
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Steve Jones16:07:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
eospark.com
great website
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CM16:07:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Why are we pumping?
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CM16:07:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Was done news?
C
CM16:07:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Was some news^
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Datajunky16:08:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Chefdujour
Was some news^
Yes
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CM16:08:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
What news? Lol
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Datajunky16:08:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The news is located @eosprice
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Roland16:08:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
We seriously need more RAM! How much does RAM cost anyway?? BPs are making 10k per day but I can buy 16GB RAM for like $200
JW
Jason Willis16:10:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
NVdovin
I think you are mistaking my opinion on eos. I actually strongly believe in the project and know exactly what I invested into. It’s very disappointing that you clearly blindly defending eos when there are clear downfalls. I am sure there will be improvements in the future I just expected more from the start.
No I don't think I'm mistaking your opinion on EOS. I can see that you are a supporter, much like me. I'm not saying that an official mobile wallet app is something that I don't want. Of course I want it. That would be awesome, and YES it is coming. However, I'm strictly arguing the point of Why would you expect something that was never promised to be delivered? If block one's goal was to create a decentralized blockchain, what you are expecting would be against their whole purpose of creating their software and blockchain to begin with.
PB
Parag Bh AITHEON ICO16:11:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
Hooray, got my CET as well
which wallets support airdrops?
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mandn16:11:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ve_83
I heard we need to register for some airdrops
You will have to check each one but the best airdrops are the ones you don’t have to register
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:12:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Does anyone care about ram of EOS here?I heard that Chinese people are buying ram crazy
JW
Jason Willis16:13:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
teisan1914
Does anyone care about ram of EOS here?I heard that Chinese people are buying ram crazy
and for good reason with all of the airdrops coming.
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Roland16:13:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
teisan1914
Does anyone care about ram of EOS here?I heard that Chinese people are buying ram crazy
RAM shouldnt be speculated upon, but lets just put out tonnes of RAM so that speculating it is suicide
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CRS16:13:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Use the bot (@Tracker_for_account_bot) to: - Tracking the movement of funds from your account (s) - tracking of airdrop - tracking multi-sig
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MD16:13:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How to buy ram?
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Roland16:13:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
and for good reason with all of the airdrops coming.
if RAM cost too much, some DAPPs might not be able to afford the airdrop!..
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Gabry16:14:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How do I get my EOS address from my metamask Ethereum address
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Roland16:14:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Or the airdrop will take days and weeks
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Slavi La Libertad16:14:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
rolandlim
if RAM cost too much, some DAPPs might not be able to afford the airdrop!..
BP will add more and more RAM.
JW
Jason Willis16:14:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
rolandlim
if RAM cost too much, some DAPPs might not be able to afford the airdrop!..
They get the ram back when we claim our tokens.
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Roland16:15:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
BPs. when the time is right, please unleash 4TB of RAM and let'em burn!
JW
Jason Willis16:15:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gabbry
How do I get my EOS address from my metamask Ethereum address
Put you public ETH into this site - eosauthority.com
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mandn16:15:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gabbry
How do I get my EOS address from my metamask Ethereum address
eosauthority.com
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Gabry16:15:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Ok thanks
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:16:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
memset
BP will add more and more RAM.
But now the occupancy rate of ram is less than 60% ,There is no reason to expand now
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Gabry16:16:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Is it just me or this chat became a lot less active lately?
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:17:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The price increase of ram has doubled my EOS
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Slavi La Libertad16:17:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
teisan1914
But now the occupancy rate of ram is less than 60% ,There is no reason to expand now
Yes. But soon we will add 64GB. It's not a problem. But RAM's speculation is.
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Roland16:17:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gabbry
Is it just me or this chat became a lot less active lately?
Governance chat is pretty active lately
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Slavi La Libertad16:18:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
teisan1914
The price increase of ram has doubled my EOS
That is good for you, but not for EOS and dapps. :))
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Roland16:18:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
memset
That is good for you, but not for EOS and dapps. :))
Yup
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:18:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
memset
That is good for you, but not for EOS and dapps. :))
I agree with you
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Roshan - EOS Authority16:18:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Please see https://eosauthority.com/alerts to receive realtime alerts of any transaction on your acount. You can setup email alerts or use our new telegram bot http://t.me/eosauthoritybot Includes EOS token transfers, changes to keys, airdrops and so on. This is an early version and any suggestions are welcome.
DK
Damodar Kumar16:19:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Paragism
which wallets support airdrops?
simpleos
JW
Jason Willis16:20:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Forgot to mention - looks like there are a few airdrops gearing up - CC, EOC, EDC. Saw some movement with this token names earlier on EOS chain.
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:20:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
memset
Yes. But soon we will add 64GB. It's not a problem. But RAM's speculation is.
Are you an official staff? Or node personnel
JW
Jason Willis16:20:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Paragism
which wallets support airdrops?
All do. They're not going to your wallet. They're being dropped to your EOS address, which your wallet is just an interface tool that allows you to access them.
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Diamond16:20:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hello. Is this the official EOS telegram?
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Damodar Kumar16:21:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i received meet.one eop n cet
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:21:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Ram expansion, you need to get the support of the entire node can be carried out
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Datajunky16:21:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
rolandlim
if RAM cost too much, some DAPPs might not be able to afford the airdrop!..
Then apply for funding. If it's worth it, the community will do it. If it's not a good idea, let it fail in ram poverty
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Slavi La Libertad16:21:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
teisan1914
Are you an official staff? Or node personnel
No. It's just my view. :)
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:21:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
memset
No. It's just my view. :)
ok
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Datajunky16:21:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
If ram is dirt cheap, we'll have 1500 shitcoins in no time.
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Jason Willis16:21:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Diamond
Hello. Is this the official EOS telegram?
Yes.
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The Third16:21:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
I'm not particularly one way or the other when it come to decentralization. However, creating a decentralized blockchain was the goal of block one. So that's why it is the way it is.
I think it is decentralised enough and I think the added layer of democracy works as long as the actors are good actors.
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Diamond16:22:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Yes.
Thanks Jason.
JW
Jason Willis16:22:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
I think it is decentralised enough and I think the added layer of democracy works as long as the actors are good actors.
Agreed. It can't be TOO decentralized.
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Maximilian Greenfield16:22:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
hi people, i need some help. I want to withdraw some EOS from my bitfinex account and send it too my EOS address. It's asking me for an address and MEMO? Do i need a memo to send or can i send without?
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Falling Water16:23:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Ram will drop out of the blue, your gambling
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Datajunky16:23:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MaximilianGreenerz
hi people, i need some help. I want to withdraw some EOS from my bitfinex account and send it too my EOS address. It's asking me for an address and MEMO? Do i need a memo to send or can i send without?
Use your account name as your address and you do not need a memo if you don't want to
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Datajunky16:24:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Ram will drop out of the blue, your gambling
Let the gamblers double up and or lose it all. That's the name of the game. But having cheap ram is an invitation to spam the network
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Roland16:24:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
RAM is cheap. I hope the BPs drop 1 TB asap. Many DAPPs need to do airdrops
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Maximilian Greenfield16:24:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
@Datajunky ok thanks, and your 100% sure?
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succeed3316:24:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
zeos.co is that ok wallet?
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Sky High16:24:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
EOS supports smart contracts ?
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Datajunky16:24:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MaximilianGreenerz
@Datajunky ok thanks, and your 100% sure?
100%
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Datajunky16:24:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Sky High
EOS supports smart contracts ?
Yes sir
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Falling Water16:25:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
No is is gonna spend 10 bucks creating an account
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Datajunky16:25:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
No is is gonna spend 10 bucks creating an account
Many people will regret not making an account when it was $5
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sc16:25:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The_th1rd
I think it is decentralised enough and I think the added layer of democracy works as long as the actors are good actors.
Actors should be trust less .
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Falling Water16:25:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Dapp will die if ram isn't reasonable
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Falling Water16:26:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Lol
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Jason Willis16:26:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
Many people will regret not making an account when it was $5
Still not sure how to do that.
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ηΏ»ε’™ | fanqiang.co16:26:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
There is inevitably a large amount of speculators in the group buying ram
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Falling Water16:26:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Even 5 bucks is retarded
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Diamond16:27:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Are there any updates on the projects that will allow token holders to lease out their EOS to developers? I heard that block one and another independent developer were developing a platform for leasing.
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Brekizer16:27:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Got CETOS and CET?
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Datajunky16:27:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Still not sure how to do that.
What have you don't so far? Are you getting errors with scatter?
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Brekizer16:27:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
2 different airdrops?
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Pi16:27:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Wen Eos
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Jason Willis16:27:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Brekizer
Got CETOS and CET?
Yes.
JW
Jason Willis16:27:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
What have you don't so far? Are you getting errors with scatter?
Oh. I haven't used scatter yet.
JW
Jason Willis16:27:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
What have you don't so far? Are you getting errors with scatter?
Does Scatter have a tool to do it?
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Datajunky16:28:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Even 5 bucks is retarded
I couldn't agree more. I just don't know what's worse.. High value accounts in high supply or cheap ram and 1500 scam token airdrops plaguing out communities and markets
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hodor hodor16:28:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
Many people will regret not making an account when it was $5
What account cost 5 bucks?
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The Third16:28:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
scvfx
Actors should be trust less .
We humans are the actors and we always find a way to be untrustworthy.
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Datajunky16:29:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Does Scatter have a tool to do it?
Scatter keeps your private keys safe and allows you to create identities. You can use those identities to attack to a toolkit to create new usernames, vote, delegate, stake or unstake, refund etc
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Datajunky16:30:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
hodor hodor
What account cost 5 bucks?
We're talking about eos account creation
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Jason Willis16:31:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
Scatter keeps your private keys safe and allows you to create identities. You can use those identities to attack to a toolkit to create new usernames, vote, delegate, stake or unstake, refund etc
Well I know what it is. I just didn't know you could create the new usernames with it.
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Jay Hay16:31:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Anyoneknow whether EON is legit? Very little info out there.
JW
Jason Willis16:38:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
SpikeSpiege1
Anyone know whether EON is legit? Very little info out there.
A lot of people are calling it a scam, but they haven't really done anything. It just seems super sketchy considering you had to register to receive the airdrop, but the window to do so was very very short, and then it seems it was only airdropped to Binance accounts holding EOS.
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DHJ8216:38:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Where is the sudden pump coming from?
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DHJ8216:39:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
7.8% up all of sudden... Must be a whale
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DHJ8216:39:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Just means the following dump will be twice as much as usual
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Shae16:40:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Or insider info that binance will open, who knows
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DHJ8216:40:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
Or insider info that binance will open, who knows
What do you mean "binance will open"?
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CriptoKnight16:40:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://www.ccn.com/china-ranks-eos-as-the-1-blockchain-bitcoin-doesnt-make-top-ten/
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Jason Willis16:40:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
Or insider info that binance will open, who knows
Or just the news of the change of constitution.
JW
Jason Willis16:41:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
DHJ82
What do you mean "binance will open"?
Binance has had deposits and withdrawals disabled since the freeze.
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Wa16:41:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hi i transferred my eos a While ago. And registered. What i have to do now ? Or leave in MEW ?
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CriptoKnight16:41:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
they are sharing this everywhere, check on Google China Ranks EOS as the #1 Blockchain
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DHJ8216:41:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Binance has had deposits and withdrawals disabled since the freeze.
Ah ok, got it
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Manh Hoang16:42:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/WeissRatings/status/1012001410785923074
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Leon Krings16:45:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@coinness/ccid-rating-round-2-eos-takes-the-crown-f9d354bb4769
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Satoshi Nakamoto16:47:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
biteos
I have absolutely no idea what any of these projects do except eosdac lol
Most of the airdrops are going to be garbage. I have yet to see any of the leadership from any of these projects in any EOS talking about their projects and promoting them, helping EOS community, etc. Just websites with promises to "change the world".
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Falling Water16:47:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Would like to know if Binance is using it's users EOS for voting, their excuse waiting for mainnet to be stable is no longer valid
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Biteos16:47:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Satoshi Nakamoto
Most of the airdrops are going to be garbage. I have yet to see any of the leadership from any of these projects in any EOS channel talking about their projects and promoting them, helping EOS community, etc. Just websites with promises to "change the world".
It's alright, better than ICOs,. If these airdrops aren't worth anything, then no harm done.
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Shae16:47:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Satoshi Nakamoto
Most of the airdrops are going to be garbage. I have yet to see any of the leadership from any of these projects in any EOS channel talking about their projects and promoting them, helping EOS community, etc. Just websites with promises to "change the world".
Well if 1 of the projects actually changes the world, we will all be rich πŸ˜‚
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Shae16:48:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Plus it helps our blocktivity rating.
SN
Satoshi Nakamoto16:48:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
biteos
It's alright, better than ICOs,. If these airdrops aren't worth anything, then no harm done.
True.
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Konstantine16:48:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Someone bought 27 million eos :O
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Satoshi Nakamoto16:48:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
Well if 1 of the projects actually changes the world, we will all be rich πŸ˜‚
Not my point.
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Falling Water16:48:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Bpc more then likely
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D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·16:48:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Konstantine
Someone bought 27 million eos :O
Have a link?
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Mitt Lambert16:48:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Konstantine
Someone bought 27 million eos :O
On which exchange?
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Shae16:48:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Maybe they're too busy changing the world to update their website
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KnG Tubbs16:48:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
janebest
My EOS is still on binance . how can I register on EOS mainnet?
It will be automatic thru them. But sadly no airdrop for you until they are move to a personal wallet
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mandn16:49:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Would like to know if Binance is using it's users EOS for voting, their excuse waiting for mainnet to be stable is no longer valid
I think the last excuse was the team are on holiday πŸ›₯🚀⚓️✈️🍹☀️🌊🐬
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Konstantine16:49:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
webdave2000
Have a link?
link? it was on exchange (okex)
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Falling Water16:49:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Who needs voters when you have that kinda money
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Konstantine16:50:08 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MittLambert
On which exchange?
okex, on 8.11 price.
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Mitt Lambert16:50:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Cool
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Falling Water16:50:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I beginning to think Binance is our very first EOS cartel
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Satoshi Nakamoto16:50:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
Maybe they're too busy changing the world to update their website
So they are also bad at planning and resource management, even worse
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Konstantine16:51:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Strange was that he bought like in 2 minutes...
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www.bitcoin-india.org16:51:15 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/EVZRSQ8bfu_A_mx2C94pkA
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Jason Booth16:51:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I love Binance.
JW
Jason Willis16:51:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Would like to know if Binance is using it's users EOS for voting, their excuse waiting for mainnet to be stable is no longer valid
If they are, that's solely the fault of the community itself for leaving their EOS on the exchange.
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John McCoffee16:52:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Would like to know if Binance is using it's users EOS for voting, their excuse waiting for mainnet to be stable is no longer valid
You've gotta think of it from their perspective.. accounts can be frozen, and all the other stuff that's going on
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Manoj16:52:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
M
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Falling Water16:52:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jay it's not their fault, Binance promised to do the swap to make it easier for it's users
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John McCoffee16:53:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I would be hesitant to open deposits and withdrawal too
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Jason Willis16:53:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Looks like there might be another airdrop getting prepared - EOR.
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Nedim16:53:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
so eos value droped
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Anton Saputro16:53:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
To many airdrop
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Anton Saputro16:54:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
We neef price lift
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Falling Water16:54:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
If I was a criminal I would hold on to it for as long as possible and give out lame excuse s for the hold up
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Nedim16:54:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
so can I now move eos after eth swap?
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D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·16:54:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Konstantine
Strange was that he bought like in 2 minutes...
Could it be to cover all intra token transactions in their system?
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Nedim16:54:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
and where
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Jason Willis16:55:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Jay it's not their fault, Binance promised to do the swap to make it easier for it's users
And every step of the way, everybody suggested that it's better to keep in your own private address.
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Falling Water16:55:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Not everyone Jay
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Jason Willis16:55:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Not everyone Jay
Most people *
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Falling Water16:56:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Even I recommended Binance for the swap to users that were not technically inclined
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Datajunky16:56:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Well I know what it is. I just didn't know you could create the new usernames with it.
You'll need eostoolkit.io
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Falling Water16:57:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
They would have more likely phished if they hadn't
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Xat16:57:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Where can I find Eos based icos and airdrops?
BW
Bill Wilkinson16:57:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Is EOS still locked on Binance?
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Xat16:57:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
bitXAT
Where can I find Eos based icos and airdrops?
πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ’₯πŸ”₯πŸ’₯
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Falling Water16:58:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Yes Binance got EOS on lock down
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Daz W16:58:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
BillWilkinson
Is EOS still locked on Binance?
yes. they show you that it is in your wallet.
JW
Jason Willis16:58:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
You'll need eostoolkit.io
Got it. I'll look into it. Thanks.
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Nedim16:58:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Yes Binance got EOS on lock down
so its locked or unlocked?
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Bill Wilkinson16:58:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Yes Binance got EOS on lock down
still huh. Havent checked in but for how long?
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Mike Manderfeen16:59:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Does anyone know when open.ledger/ BTS will open up EOS withdrawls?
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Falling Water16:59:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Until users demand their EOS back
DW
Daz W16:59:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
so its locked or unlocked?
holy sh**
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Nedim16:59:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
EOS still droping even if it's locked
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Nedim17:00:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
it was perfect joke, to lock peoples eos, but others can still trade
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Marco17:00:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
? Isnt dropping. Better than most other coin
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KnG Tubbs17:00:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
so its locked or unlocked?
It’s all good bro. It’s locked up
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Marco17:00:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Atm
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Falling Water17:00:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Or until they have their favourite 21 BP's in place
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Pi17:00:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
EOS is the one
DW
Daz W17:00:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
it was perfect joke, to lock peoples eos, but others can still trade
πŸ˜‚
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Falling Water17:01:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Binance needs to rewire EOS Constitution first
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Falling Water17:01:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Lol
JW
Jason Willis17:01:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Might have some EOR coming from ToyotaWallet (?) lol.
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t7817:02:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Would like to know if Binance is using it's users EOS for voting, their excuse waiting for mainnet to be stable is no longer valid
they dont
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Nedim17:02:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
when eos unlock our coins, byc will be drop to 600$
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Scarlet17:02:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
it was perfect joke, to lock peoples eos, but others can still trade
Hahahah... I sold everything before locks. And was best decision. 8dollars now))))
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Falling Water17:02:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That's a relief t78, thanks
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Daz W17:02:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
it was perfect joke, to lock peoples eos, but others can still trade
You can still trade your eos. the exchanges never prohibeted you from doing that. they just locked up the ability to deposit and withdraw it. millions and millions of dollar value is traded in EOS on binance every day.
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Nedim17:03:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Scarlet
Hahahah... I sold everything before locks. And was best decision. 8dollars now))))
yes, but can you buy it now?
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t7817:03:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
That's a relief t78, thanks
you can check.
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t7817:03:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
0x742d35cc6634c0532925a3b844bc454e4438f44e g4ztqmbrgege EOS7t3fDcbzSmSrV4WqpXDVPc5HR1uvS4DT6d4u7bo6vNcFy3pUC1 70,599,170.3878 Bitfinex_Wallet4 0x83761c6785427f5a27a07c92a9dcfa99947bc4ad g4ydomrxhege EOS8G1v5HCG1vjokMSwq6tmZabMy4ZPLHMEerTo2W9Q9QbSJUrCTj 53,955,804.151 0 exchange 0x6cc5f688a315f3dc28a7781717a9a798a59fda7b gyzdamztg4ge EOS7JxxASQxLgfAYsRtrPcKptLtAcHipY7e3GLZJbP1ZXpYk6iR26 48,836,328.9362 exchange 0xfe9e8709d3215310075d67e3ed32a380ccf451c8 gi3tiojtguge EOS6AAd66gbCJjYi1VBTe4MqrRqYtBHp26pqyTepNaTWpHQiH8Mcu 45,342,356.7784 Binance 0x88e343f4599292c2cffe683c1bb93cd3480bdbab gm3tombuguge EOS5TAb3E5M94k2SLjk6Q1hwGE9waSFveqkwMciyMc8q8RvFUaTgQ 32,400,000.0000 PXN 0x62a23e43792cd096685896d2cf5aa8fd3d7bf36a gy3danzqgage EOS6gLCBEKwAn9tmS9FAmvGorkci6rHwjTsQc14ybhgYYCvdnbtvq 20,483,453.4163 exchange 0x174443351e21d47ed9ab51517a301107d92ede64 geztgnjqgene EOS4ySqSkrPgetiwcAiwSxsv48VyRQ8CkuZV8sJTWHfybHxnXPSjk 19066571.2442 Kraken 0x7793cd85c11a924478d358d49b05b37e91b5810f g4ydgmjug4ge EOS6fpSsXhD2gspzbvC46epChCJ839T6t49BMo5pR2kNcEVQz5dx7 16436924.3646 Gate_io 0x3f5ce5fbfe3e9af3971dd833d26ba9b5c936f0be heztanrqgene EOS8RWQpzzMi5uFXXXAChi4dHnyxMYKKdAQ3Y3pHQTrvhzGk95LbT 12540381.8469 BinanceWallet 0x5b7b94e2f7b394ae280646178cb7b07d5945c195 gy2dsnjugige EOS6Ncsc3TvrhZMDLR7PaooHfyTTEPb1eN1oLKY9Sqpo7qaajtkKe 7500000.8776 exchange 0xf837d6f3175f9df73772fba356f31479e67c1735 giytemzyhege EOS68EvdXxKjvNTaALzQCFQgLBEyv6G87aocDpimmNvas6VLXMrS1 7121271.8609 OTCBTC cold 0x0d0707963952f2fba59dd06f2b425ace40b492fe g4ydgobthege EOS84KfnPTa8hCoJFehk43ZDk4wB1pQKD5YRmEipyWQzTm1GYQRW3 2263259.599 Gate_io 0x167a9333bf582556f35bd4d16a7e80e191aa6476 gq4dinigenes EOS6PdFAquANbnLCd3jtinwKGV19DCyiHBLU4ri1H7vbCVwPJ6mcW 2243194.4016 exchange 0x1c4b70a3968436b9a0a9cf5205c787eb81bb558c ha2tanbqg4ge EOS6gkXx8HYtTjfL4kdY74w4RTapUZZQ9JDUzqsQ4gWYn3zKN5D8X 2022286.8786 Gate IO 0xe3031c1bfaa7825813c562cbdcc69d96fcad2087 guydsnbsgige EOS7qWKodfZrSC2VVH8eiBF6yRqREZ1oyHRYxHWzeKgmjbebL7CXE 1598788.2674 exchange 0xeca2c67f9d97bce2b5972b28b5087c816d033ccc gu2tkmztgige EOS7xMx64ZnMeqNjukt7fGWxmgLE5SaxdqNkqYzQ98BWb5NWBvgH4 1437919.1732 exchange 0x876eabf441b2ee5b5b0554fd502a8e0600950cfa gi4dgmrxgqge EOS7t3fDcbzSmSrV4WqpXDVPc5HR1uvS4DT6d4u7bo6vNcFy3pUC1 1266614.3383 Bitfinex_Wallet 0x564286362092d8e7936f0549571a803b203aaced gqydenbugege EOS8RWQpzzMi5uFXXXAChi4dHnyxMYKKdAQ3Y3pHQTrvhzGk95LbT 1082321.7272 BinanceWallet_2 0x59b681402bcb2c8460a506a88d75be1cf1326528 gm3tknrrguge EOS8AxHydYPKrAQB6c5Lu48q2jT1xqAAwRNPQFqnaPsFQGD63wdHf 889834.7709 exchange 0xf3e36ad56aa85abdacc18c02d19509ae4f7d5899 gu4dkmzsgige EOS6yCLipm1X8ztvkG1Nmntv33Yve2sHGeJQfqLmd55HrLBNXNBo6 842348.8993 exchange 0x2b5634c42055806a59e9107ed44d43c426e58258 ge3tknbqgmge EOS72r4SQPsFZttYATcwkZWHgp7ueLJd11BrGE37oPWGh2NjJqi8s 823476.3353 KUCOIN 0x99fe5d6383289cdd56e54fc0baf7f67c957a8888 gq2tiobzguge EOS5ySiDH3gtQqKuZ61q8Fq1PW5jJxKnJU8xvCcPX3tub32MSFq4q 779400.4336 exchange 0xd551234ae421e3bcba99a0da6d736074f22192ff gqydenbvg4ge EOS8RWQpzzMi5uFXXXAChi4dHnyxMYKKdAQ3Y3pHQTrvhzGk95LbT 726357.4368 BinanceWallet_1 0xfcfd79309b3510bf7f884d8177382b27693533d1 gm2tcobtg4ge EOS6f4tzqPQWjzJSqepxwwhcTESA7YjZWG8NJUnjnobvhdjXk2e26 705407.0111 exchange 0x0b078896a3d9166da5c37ae52a5809aca48630d4 gm2tqnjygyge EOS5LDhs4KRbvQFsQWAjkZSiqTwjz7DznmvF1rRSmHuTNkETDeXyH 686578.8469 exchange 0x3afb77583f0e88930de3b9921a840d4892784561 haztmmbsgyge EOS6cbvJ61peGw7csQHZ3Ke9htKYNxCDHWdhRKSMKscFcf6Hn4iZ8 671261.8152 exchange 0xf73c3c65bde10bf26c2e1763104e609a41702efe gi3tgnbtgqge EOS7FhrjsSKeLpa8zHN3xWJAwfXxY1jDkidp4o4hgxCPoeEyjozJa 646595.3012 Bitbox 0xf64edd94558ca8b3a0e3b362e20bb13ff52ea513 gu4dknbugige EOS5XKnGnM9uahfJvpkq73cLVqPaXtAgszfZefR9wJsrBNcB112FL 547966.8399 exchange 0x34132572249ae96d121c3fa03892c94041436575 haztmmbsguge EOS8V8jMsMeRHeKpmzqukYtECowqBxPkt87E6HSJBCPtbcRkFtm21 533362.1625 exchange 0x236f9f97e0e62388479bf9e5ba4889e46b0273c3 gi2dembsgage EOS7
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t7817:03:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
JxxASQxLgfAYsRtrPcKptLtAcHipY7e3GLZJbP1ZXpYk6iR26 419.3101 OKEX
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t7817:03:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Exchange wallets, 3 binance wallets, no voting
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https://franksquaretech.blogspot.in17:03:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/3zyeyzAQAag
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t7817:03:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
move on
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Falling Water17:03:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
They locked some votes that's forsure
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Autocad India Autolisp Architecture17:04:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://youtu.be/3zyeyzAQAag
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Falling Water17:04:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
T you know all the accounts huh
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Brown_Satoschi17:04:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Anybody has infos needed to add eosiochaince to greymans wallet ??
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t7817:04:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
They locked some votes that's forsure
they didnt even buy ram yet
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Scarlet17:04:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
yes, but can you buy it now?
I can trade it so yes. And exchanges will unlock for withdrawal too whenever. So no issues. But currently not into it. Unless product will improve.
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Shae17:05:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Scarlet
Hahahah... I sold everything before locks. And was best decision. 8dollars now))))
If you sold to fiat, good decision. Otherwise ... everything else is down too anyways
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Nedim17:05:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ukcables
You can still trade your eos. the exchanges never prohibeted you from doing that. they just locked up the ability to deposit and withdraw it. millions and millions of dollar value is traded in EOS on binance every day.
I understand, but i don't have eos on exchange, i have it on ledger nano s.. so we who dont hold eos we are losers
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Falling Water17:05:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Well thanks for keeping an eye
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Scarlet17:05:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
If you sold to fiat, good decision. Otherwise ... everything else is down too anyways
Correct :)
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Falling Water17:05:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
They're still suppressing votes tho
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Jane Nguyen17:06:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
I understand, but i don't have eos on exchange, i have it on ledger nano s.. so we who dont hold eos we are losers
I bought 1200 EOS on binance on Monday.
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Jane Nguyen17:06:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Should I still leave it there?
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Daz W17:06:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
I understand, but i don't have eos on exchange, i have it on ledger nano s.. so we who dont hold eos we are losers
No, your eos isn't on your ledger. those are your tokens and are frozen forever.
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Nedim17:07:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ukcables
No, your eos isn't on your ledger. those are your tokens and are frozen forever.
I understand, but now i can't move them to exchanhe, right?
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Daz W17:07:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
if your tokens were stored in there, then your situation is as easy as it gets.
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TashΓ‘17:07:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
😱
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Falling Water17:07:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jane you don't have a choice right now
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Daz W17:07:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
wnload a wallet and type in your credentials
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TashΓ‘17:07:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ukcables
No, your eos isn't on your ledger. those are your tokens and are frozen forever.
😱
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Falling Water17:07:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Unless you sell
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Cheif17:08:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ukcables
wnload a wallet and type in your credentials
There is no dead line or anything to boot up your wallet right ?
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t7817:08:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
They're still suppressing votes tho
thats a fact, but binance has 7 mil plus users, make a adress for all of them? Guess they quit busy anyways
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Daniel Swell17:08:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Something is moving right now
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Falling Water17:08:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
No but they can alot already have account
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Shae17:08:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I like getting airdrops. I don't care if they're worthless, they're fun to have
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Daz W17:08:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
I understand, but now i can't move them to exchanhe, right?
you're not moving those tokens. THEY ARE FROZEN FOREVER. the eos on the mainnet is a new coin. all you have to do is claim them
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Shae17:08:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It's like having a lot of monopoly money
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Romeo17:09:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Please tell us about staking and how we would get the airdrops when our coins are staked. Somehow I got only half the ADD coins airdrop. That might be because half of my eos is staked in cpu and the other half is staked in ram. Should we unstake them to get the airdrops? Or should we stake them to cpu or ram? Can the new airdrops tell how much eos I have total no matter how many of them are staked?
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Konstantine17:09:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
webdave2000
Could it be to cover all intra token transactions in their system?
dont know...
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Crypto_Eng_17:09:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ukcables
you're not moving those tokens. THEY ARE FROZEN FOREVER. the eos on the mainnet is a new coin. all you have to do is claim them
How? I have registered and have private keys and stuff.. but now how to move the new coins?
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Falling Water17:09:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Loads of Binance users already have accounts
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Jason Booth17:09:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
It's like having a lot of monopoly money
All money is like monopoly money.
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Daz W17:09:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedimx2
I understand, but now i can't move them to exchanhe, right?
PM me and i'll help
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Falling Water17:09:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
No reason to lock them up
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Falling Water17:10:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That's not a very good excuse
JB
Jason Booth17:10:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Things have value because people believe they do.
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Scarlet17:10:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ukcables
if your tokens were stored in there, then your situation is as easy as it gets.
Only people can't deposit them to any exchanges to trade at this time. And now it is down in price. Ppl have to wait ,only those who trade at exchange or kept there could do something)))) right? Others just hodl))))
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Falling Water17:10:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Been then what is from Binance
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Fer17:10:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Who sells vanilla cards?
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Parag Bh AITHEON ICO17:12:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
All do. They're not going to your wallet. They're being dropped to your EOS address, which your wallet is just an interface tool that allows you to access them.
but exchanges will not support right?
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Falling Water17:12:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I suppose the other exchanges allowing transactions, all their users had accounts
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Jason Willis17:12:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Paragism
but exchanges will not support right?
That depends on the exchange.
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t7817:14:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
I suppose the other exchanges allowing transactions, all their users had accounts
receiving adresses
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Falling Water17:15:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
What?
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t7817:16:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
anyway, if you need it , change , send to different exchange, exchange again , transfer to main net , done.
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Falling Water17:16:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Their own EOS accounts
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Spice guys17:17:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
realtequila
Lol, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Nobody has ever made anything like this before, relax. The fact that it works and is running should have you bullish AF
Dont be bullish on a shitcoin
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Falling Water17:17:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Yes t78, thanks again
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t7817:18:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Falling Water
Yes t78, thanks again
πŸ˜‚ Im pissed of too dude, but it is what it is for now. Spoke to support, no help as usual, anyway lets move on
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Neo17:20:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Guys I have an honest question. Is the first (most upvoted) comment on this post true? https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8ty13c/we_have_suffered_a_private_affair_block_producer/
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Neo17:21:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I just tried to post something and it insta deleted
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Datajunky17:21:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It's all good guys. Everything going on in eos right now is super positive and healthy for the network and the community which is literally the same thing.
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Datajunky17:21:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
I just tried to post something and it insta deleted
Some people can't post links
JW
Jason Willis17:22:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
I just tried to post something and it insta deleted
Was there a link in your post?
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Datajunky17:22:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
twanster
πŸ˜‚ Im pissed of too dude, but it is what it is for now. Spoke to support, no help as usual, anyway lets move on
You guys can sell all of your eos on binance and buy it from bitfinex and move your eos out of bitfinex if you don't like binance.
JW
Jason Willis17:22:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Spice guys
Dont be bullish on a shitcoin
Yay! Spice Guys is back! We were worried about you.
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Neo17:23:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Well maybe someone should read and address the many Reddit posts about eos on there right now. It’s a shitshow and I just wanted clarification from anyone in the know if there was any validity to the claims those posters are making.
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Neo17:23:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
But i can’t post the Reddit link and I’m guessing I’m not allowed to.
JW
Jason Willis17:24:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
You guys can sell all of your eos on binance and buy it from bitfinex and move your eos out of bitfinex if you don't like binance.
Good luck. There is a minimum deposit to open an account on Bitfinex.
JW
Jason Willis17:24:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Well maybe someone should read and address the many Reddit posts about eos on there right now. It’s a shitshow and I just wanted clarification from anyone in the know if there was any validity to the claims those posters are making.
What claims?
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James17:25:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I wonder if adding the ability of negative votes for BPs will help midiate the "Whale effect" (?) https://youtu.be/9CR5ggYqetE
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Neo17:25:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
U can delete my comment after u read it. This was the first comment on the Reddit post about the eos block producer. Is what he saying valid or not?
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Neo17:25:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Block producers control all decisions made on EOS, from validating blocks to seizing funds from under your private key. They can be nominated in by a 51% token majority. Right now, that means the Top 15 wallets. Every other individual that votes is powerless if the majority colludes or agrees with each other. EOS's tokens are not well distributed, so voting power is condensed. In addition, the voting power system is designed to give the majority the ability to nominate every block producer and a handful of backups. So now you have 21 puppet block producers who have to do whatever they are told or lose their power as a node (be replaced with a different node). The richest wallets are in complete control of EOS, which can already scarcely be called a crypto because your funds are literally not safe, cryptographically speaking. This is a centralized and likely completely illegal mess. Your funds are literally safer with banks, who have legal frameworks to abide by.
JW
Jason Willis17:26:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
James
I wonder if adding the ability of negative votes for BPs will help midiate the "Whale effect" (?) https://youtu.be/9CR5ggYqetE
Wouldn’t that just be an un-vote?
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Evangelos Lamprou17:26:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
where can we access the native tokens? which website?
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Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)17:26:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Block producers control all decisions made on EOS, from validating blocks to seizing funds from under your private key. They can be nominated in by a 51% token majority. Right now, that means the Top 15 wallets. Every other individual that votes is powerless if the majority colludes or agrees with each other. EOS's tokens are not well distributed, so voting power is condensed. In addition, the voting power system is designed to give the majority the ability to nominate every block producer and a handful of backups. So now you have 21 puppet block producers who have to do whatever they are told or lose their power as a node (be replaced with a different node). The richest wallets are in complete control of EOS, which can already scarcely be called a crypto because your funds are literally not safe, cryptographically speaking. This is a centralized and likely completely illegal mess. Your funds are literally safer with banks, who have legal frameworks to abide by.
We are completely independent and self funded. Please do not spread such misinformation.
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Neo17:27:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I’m not spreading anything. I’m asking a question which someone else posted on Reddit. Maybe read what I wrote before accusing me.
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19489 Earisu17:27:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Why so many people want to withdraw their Eos lol.
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Neo17:27:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
And u can delete it. Go ahead. I was just asking if what he says is valid
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Dwidh17:27:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Block producers control all decisions made on EOS, from validating blocks to seizing funds from under your private key. They can be nominated in by a 51% token majority. Right now, that means the Top 15 wallets. Every other individual that votes is powerless if the majority colludes or agrees with each other. EOS's tokens are not well distributed, so voting power is condensed. In addition, the voting power system is designed to give the majority the ability to nominate every block producer and a handful of backups. So now you have 21 puppet block producers who have to do whatever they are told or lose their power as a node (be replaced with a different node). The richest wallets are in complete control of EOS, which can already scarcely be called a crypto because your funds are literally not safe, cryptographically speaking. This is a centralized and likely completely illegal mess. Your funds are literally safer with banks, who have legal frameworks to abide by.
if your belief like that ... pls make your fiat group ... and make consensus there ... 😁
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The Third17:28:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Block producers control all decisions made on EOS, from validating blocks to seizing funds from under your private key. They can be nominated in by a 51% token majority. Right now, that means the Top 15 wallets. Every other individual that votes is powerless if the majority colludes or agrees with each other. EOS's tokens are not well distributed, so voting power is condensed. In addition, the voting power system is designed to give the majority the ability to nominate every block producer and a handful of backups. So now you have 21 puppet block producers who have to do whatever they are told or lose their power as a node (be replaced with a different node). The richest wallets are in complete control of EOS, which can already scarcely be called a crypto because your funds are literally not safe, cryptographically speaking. This is a centralized and likely completely illegal mess. Your funds are literally safer with banks, who have legal frameworks to abide by.
Let me guess a desperate NEO tribalists. There is another information and disinformation for people to make their own evaluations.
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Neo17:28:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
U can’t even speak English properly, pls don’t respond to me. And it’s not my belief, it’s a post someone else made on Reddit.
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Mike Manderfeen17:29:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How do we stop whale BP cartels? EOSStore is winning the popularity contest right now
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Neo17:29:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Wow none of you guys even speak English. I’m out. Later
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rektkid17:29:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
How do we stop whale BP cartels? EOSStore is winning the popularity contest right now
https://eosflare.io/account/vgjfeslpyznt
JW
Jason Willis17:29:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Block producers control all decisions made on EOS, from validating blocks to seizing funds from under your private key. They can be nominated in by a 51% token majority. Right now, that means the Top 15 wallets. Every other individual that votes is powerless if the majority colludes or agrees with each other. EOS's tokens are not well distributed, so voting power is condensed. In addition, the voting power system is designed to give the majority the ability to nominate every block producer and a handful of backups. So now you have 21 puppet block producers who have to do whatever they are told or lose their power as a node (be replaced with a different node). The richest wallets are in complete control of EOS, which can already scarcely be called a crypto because your funds are literally not safe, cryptographically speaking. This is a centralized and likely completely illegal mess. Your funds are literally safer with banks, who have legal frameworks to abide by.
Your info about the 15 wallets is skewed. Of those 15 wallets the highest holders are exchanged that participated in the token swap, and block one. As a community we can take our EOS off the exchanges and hold them in our private addresses, removing the voting power from those exchanges and distributing it back to the community.
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19489 Earisu17:29:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Harsh
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Gilgamesh17:29:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
How do we stop whale BP cartels? EOSStore is winning the popularity contest right now
pay voters out of block reward
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rektkid17:29:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
4.8 million eos for eosstore and other asian onlu bps
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Neo17:30:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Your info about the 15 wallets is skewed. Of those 15 wallets the highest holders are exchanged that participated in the token swap, and block one. As a community we can take our EOS off the exchanges and hold them in our private addresses, removing the voting power from those exchanges and distributing it back to the community.
Thanks Jason
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Dwidh17:30:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Wow none of you guys even speak English. I’m out. Later
good ... the exit door behind u ...
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t7817:30:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
You guys can sell all of your eos on binance and buy it from bitfinex and move your eos out of bitfinex if you don't like binance.
t78 anyway, if you need it , change , send to different exchange, exchange again , transfer to main net , done.
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t7817:30:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
allready mentiond
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Datajunky17:31:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Wow none of you guys even speak English. I’m out. Later
Most of the questions and concerns people raise and ask on reddit are done by btc maximalists who consider everything outside of btc a shitcoin and because it's not btc it must be poked full of holes built on misinformation and a serious lack of understanding of the eos network.
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Datajunky17:32:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
twanster
allready mentiond
Yeah, but this is telegram. Nobody reads the 78439 answers before asking a question. That's why I recommend eostalk.io over this black hole of information.
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Neo17:32:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Dwidh
good ... the exit door behind u ...
Learn how to speak English before you engage with anyone. You only embarrass yourself buddy. I’m out anyway. Jason was kind enough to provide me with the answer I was looking for. Go and read a book and work on your linguistic abilities.
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Dan17:32:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
how to get an eos account if I dont have one?
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Sean Hu17:32:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Is it true that EOS will propose a new constitution?
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t7817:33:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Datajunky
Yeah, but this is telegram. Nobody reads the 78439 answers before asking a question. That's why I recommend eostalk.io over this black hole of information.
true
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Nicolas17:33:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
What about using EOS funding to create datacenters/nodes by the community for the community
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Nicolas17:33:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
?
JW
Jason Willis17:33:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Dwidh
good ... the exit door behind u ...
Not very proactive.
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Dwidh17:33:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Learn how to speak English before you engage with anyone. You only embarrass yourself buddy. I’m out anyway. Jason was kind enough to provide me with the answer I was looking for. Go and read a book and work on your linguistic abilities.
np ... its not my language anyway ... and i just show u the exit door
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Datajunky17:34:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
hxy13579
Is it true that EOS will propose a new constitution?
Anyone can propose changes to the constitution. It needs to be voted in and held in for some time. Eos doesn't do anything but exist. There is no figurehead at the top.
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James17:34:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Wouldn’t that just be an un-vote?
Not if you never voted for the BP. Thinking about the situation with EOSstore. They suposadly moved up the ranking after commiting a huge blunder which hurt the network. This as I understand it was due to "friendly" Whale voting. However if the community of( minnos) had the ability to cast negative votes this would help to offset the whale effect. However, I as write this I just thought of the problem in this solution. The whales would also have the ability for negative voting and would simple negative vote the other top 21 ......hmmm Something to think about. ....Maybe just have negative voting to accounts below a certain level of EOS..(?). Tough problem.
JW
Jason Willis17:34:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
Thanks Jason
Keep in mind that an exchange is essentially seen as one large wallet. And we as a community are solely responsible on if we give that exchange that power or not. If we do, it’s well in their right to vote with it, considering they technically own them
JB
jan brown17:35:08 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
telepound
Please see https://eosauthority.com/alerts to receive realtime alerts of any transaction on your acount. You can setup email alerts or use our new telegram bot http://t.me/eosauthoritybot Includes EOS token transfers, changes to keys, airdrops and so on. This is an early version and any suggestions are welcome.
Fantastic. That is just what I was looking for. Thank you!
SH
Sean Hu17:35:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
So there is always possibility that the constitution will be changed anytime?
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Roshan - EOS Authority17:35:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jan brown
Fantastic. That is just what I was looking for. Thank you!
πŸ‘
DC
D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·17:37:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Mike Manderfeen
How do we stop whale BP cartels? EOSStore is winning the popularity contest right now
We need to eliminate the 30 votes. We will need to loose individual power to ensure the whales can not elect ALL their cartel.
CM
Crypt0 Manic17:37:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hey y'all I'm checking out eos projects and found this one called unification Foundation, pretty legit looking use of eos
JB
Jason Booth17:38:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
finchify
We are completely independent and self funded. Please do not spread such misinformation.
It's good we still have a few community driven block producers in the top 21. I hope it lasts.
SL
Sal LaMarco17:38:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Where can I learn about EOS. I need info on, wallets, staking, voting, ram purchases, etc. I'd also like to undestand what liabilities there are to just letting my EOS just sit. Thanks
TM
Thiago Martins17:38:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Where can I chat about an issue with `eosio_build.sh`, before posting it on Github?
JW
Jason Willis17:38:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
James
Not if you never voted for the BP. Thinking about the situation with EOSstore. They suposadly moved up the ranking after commiting a huge blunder which hurt the network. This as I understand it was due to "friendly" Whale voting. However if the community of( minnos) had the ability to cast negative votes this would help to offset the whale effect. However, I as write this I just thought of the problem in this solution. The whales would also have the ability for negative voting and would simple negative vote the other top 21 ......hmmm Something to think about. ....Maybe just have negative voting to accounts below a certain level of EOS..(?). Tough problem.
Yeah I don't think there would really be a fair and easy solution to it in the scenario you present. But I see what you are saying. Like a negative vote holds more weight than a positive. The only thing that I could think of would be that you would have to match positive votes to negative votes. For example, if vote positive for 5 BPs, you allowed to, or even have to, vote negative for 5 other BPs. That way, there wouldn't be whales doing a positive vote for 1 BP and doing negative votes for all of the other 29, etc.
DC
D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·17:39:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Cypherglass is one of the most transparent BPs. We need more like this.
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Pi17:39:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
EOS > $600 eoy
JW
Jason Willis17:39:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
webdave2000
We need to eliminate the 30 votes. We will need to loose individual power to ensure the whales can not elect ALL their cartel.
Some of you act like ALL whales are working together. That's highly doubtable.
JF
Jared Floyd17:40:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
What's the minimum RAM required to stay functional?
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Gilgamesh17:40:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
webdave2000
We need to eliminate the 30 votes. We will need to loose individual power to ensure the whales can not elect ALL their cartel.
worst idea I've ever heard
KK
kw kim17:40:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Ravenswood888
EOS > $600 eoy
sounds good
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Gilgamesh17:40:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
without approval voting you cannot vote out malicious whales
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Isaiah17:40:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Are EOS token automatically swapped? I have my EOS in my MEW.
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Seraphin17:41:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Whats the best EOS Wallet?
AY
Andrey Y17:41:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
1mb ram = $700
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Isaiah17:41:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Are EOS token automatically swapped? I have my EOS in my MEW.
K
klemen17:41:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Seraphin
Whats the best EOS Wallet?
Greymass is nice IMO, scatter for authenticating on dapps
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Isaiah17:42:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Greymass is nice IMO, scatter for authenticating on dapps
Are EOS token automatically swapped? I have my EOS in my MEW.
D-
Darren - WEOS17:43:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Price of ram is getting ridiculous. What do we do about this?
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Spice guys17:43:15 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
Are EOS token automatically swapped? I have my EOS in my MEW.
Your eos tokens are worthless now
DC
D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·17:43:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Some of you act like ALL whales are working together. That's highly doubtable.
Rigth now a whale with 29 million EOS can elect ALL BPs. 😳
PG
Persi Goody17:43:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Cet token dropped to eos wallet
PG
Persi Goody17:43:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
According to eosflare
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klemen17:43:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
Are EOS token automatically swapped? I have my EOS in my MEW.
You needed to register your ETH address to eos.io and they would give you eos public key and private key for you to use in the eos mainnet now
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Isaiah17:43:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Spice guys
Your eos tokens are worthless now
How do you mean worthless?
K
klemen17:43:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Lol why my post got deleted o_o
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Isaiah17:44:08 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Spice guys
Your eos tokens are worthless now
I did registered for the auto swap.
K
klemen17:44:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
I did registered for the auto swap.
Then use your private key to unlock your tokens in greymass wallet for example
D
Dwidh17:44:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
How do you mean worthless?
i think he mean the erc20 token that worthless
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James17:45:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Yeah I don't think there would really be a fair and easy solution to it in the scenario you present. But I see what you are saying. Like a negative vote holds more weight than a positive. The only thing that I could think of would be that you would have to match positive votes to negative votes. For example, if vote positive for 5 BPs, you allowed to, or even have to, vote negative for 5 other BPs. That way, there wouldn't be whales doing a positive vote for 1 BP and doing negative votes for all of the other 29, etc.
Your idea sounds interesting. It may have some merit.
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Isaiah17:45:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Then use your private key to unlock your tokens in greymass wallet for example
Do you have a link to that please.
JF
Jared Floyd17:45:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
1mb ram = $700
Does everyone have the same max usage of 60.8 MB?
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Isaiah17:45:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Dwidh
i think he mean the erc20 token that worthless
Thank you. How do I unlock the new tokens pls
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Dwidh17:45:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
eos now live in eos blockchain ... not in eth blockchain anymore ...
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klemen17:46:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
Do you have a link to that please.
I suggest google "greymass wallet" because I can't post links here. Download it from the github page.
KB
Kyle Baird17:46:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Persi_Goody
Cet token dropped to eos wallet
Nice just got mine
KB
Kyle Baird17:46:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
1:1
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klemen17:46:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Me too
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Isaiah17:46:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
I suggest google "greymass wallet" because I can't post links here. Download it from the github page.
Greymass/eos-voter?
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klemen17:46:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
Greymass/eos-voter?
Yes
JF
Jared Floyd17:46:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Persi_Goody
Cet token dropped to eos wallet
Dies eosflare have all the contract addresses to add into greymass as well?
K
klemen17:47:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
Greymass/eos-voter?
It's basically voter but it's a wallet too. You can unstake your EOS with the greymass wallet.
KB
Kyle Baird17:47:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaredfloyd
Dies eosflare have all the contract addresses to add into greymass as well?
i like eospark dot com for that
JF
Jared Floyd17:47:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Kbaird1515
i like eospark dot com for that
Thanks
KB
Kyle Baird17:47:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
newest one is Name: eosiochaince Symbol: CET
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Isaiah17:47:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
It's basically voter but it's a wallet too. You can unstake your EOS with the greymass wallet.
I'm trying it now
AY
Andrey Y17:47:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaredfloyd
Does everyone have the same max usage of 60.8 MB?
No, genesis accounts have 8kb, you need to buy ram with eos for contracts, new accounts, etc.
JW
Jason Willis17:48:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
webdave2000
Rigth now a whale with 29 million EOS can elect ALL BPs. 😳
Does does such a whale exist? There are also still 971 million EOS that could be used to vote as well.
JW
Jason Willis17:48:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
James
Your idea sounds interesting. It may have some merit.
🀷‍♂️Maybe.
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Isaiah17:51:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Then use your private key to unlock your tokens in greymass wallet for example
I just downloaded the zip from github. How do I launch and/or unlock with my private key?
K
klemen17:51:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
I just downloaded the zip from github. How do I launch and/or unlock with my private key?
Install the file. It's an .exe file. Then just launch it from your desktop/install folder (eos-voter.exe) and then follow instructions in the software
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Neo17:52:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Yeah I don't think there would really be a fair and easy solution to it in the scenario you present. But I see what you are saying. Like a negative vote holds more weight than a positive. The only thing that I could think of would be that you would have to match positive votes to negative votes. For example, if vote positive for 5 BPs, you allowed to, or even have to, vote negative for 5 other BPs. That way, there wouldn't be whales doing a positive vote for 1 BP and doing negative votes for all of the other 29, etc.
I hope you work for eos. If not, they should hire you.
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AnotherLonelyDay17:52:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jason helped me out the other day
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klemen17:52:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I suggest making local wallet (password encryption) for your wallet so it's easier to use. Your private key is the seed as far as I know.
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Laur17:52:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hello guys! Any ios wallet?
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AnotherLonelyDay17:53:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
not yet
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Isaiah17:53:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Install the file. It's an .exe file. Then just launch it from your desktop/install folder (eos-voter.exe) and then follow instructions in the software
I cant see any exe.file.
JW
Jason Willis17:53:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
I hope you work for eos. If not, they should hire you.
lol
K
klemen17:53:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
I cant see any exe.file.
Unzip the zip file then. You can download eos-voter.exe directly from github too
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Isaiah17:53:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Install the file. It's an .exe file. Then just launch it from your desktop/install folder (eos-voter.exe) and then follow instructions in the software
That's all I can see
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klemen17:54:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
That's all I can see
Scroll down, the eos-voter.exe is down
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Isaiah17:54:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Scroll down, the eos-voter.exe is down
No exe.
K
klemen17:54:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Did you unzip the file?
JW
Jason Willis17:55:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Halcyon33
I hope you work for eos. If not, they should hire you.
But really, I'm trying to think of flaw here that I'm expecting to be super obvious but I'm having a hard time finding one.
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Isaiah17:55:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Did you unzip the file?
Yes.
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Laur17:55:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
A couple of billion raised and dan larimer would nt spend 100k for a nice wallet to help comunity.....i mean forghet 100k ...he could build the wallet himself for comunity....
K
klemen17:55:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Uhh, try downloading the .exe straight from github
J
jmw41117:55:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@bytemaster/the-intent-of-code-is-law-c0e0cd318032
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marcin66617:56:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Laurbug
A couple of billion raised and dan larimer would nt spend 100k for a nice wallet to help comunity.....i mean forghet 100k ...he could build the wallet himself for comunity....
Block one is building a wallet...
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Emmanuel17:57:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@mangicrypto/eos-concept-code-is-not-law-7403d3bfbe7b
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Laur17:57:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That s greath news ...they should of done this before mainnet....so every one could easly vote ....
MG
Mike Gilchrist17:57:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Can you help me? How to move EOS from bitfinex to simpleos or scatter?
JW
Jason Willis17:58:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Laurbug
A couple of billion raised and dan larimer would nt spend 100k for a nice wallet to help comunity.....i mean forghet 100k ...he could build the wallet himself for comunity....
Dan and/or block one are not responsible for building a wallet and the whole intent of the EOS blockchain software was that it would be wholy community ran and developer centric. For Dan / Block one to do what you are expecting would be against their goals to begin with.
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mandn17:59:15 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
threeg5
Can you help me? How to move EOS from bitfinex to simpleos or scatter?
Withdraw to your EOS address
JW
Jason Willis18:00:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
EOS breaking away from the bold real strong right now.
JP
Joe Pritchard18:00:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It looks like some of my EOS were automatically ‘staked’. Is this normal and is there any risk to leaving them this way?
V
Vikas18:00:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
joepritch
It looks like some of my EOS were automatically ‘staked’. Is this normal and is there any risk to leaving them this way?
for me also?
JW
Jason Willis18:01:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
joepritch
It looks like some of my EOS were automatically ‘staked’. Is this normal and is there any risk to leaving them this way?
100 % normal. This was the case with every address on the EOS chain.
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Vikas18:01:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
now in till we don't get official wallet are complicated and don't know how many airdrops we got?
JW
Jason Willis18:01:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
joepritch
It looks like some of my EOS were automatically ‘staked’. Is this normal and is there any risk to leaving them this way?
No risk at all. they were auto-staked to make it easier for voting purposes.
JP
Joe Pritchard18:02:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
100 % normal. This was the case with every address on the EOS chain.
Thanks- I saw someone say they were thinking of unstaking them. Why might they do that?
DL
Daniel Larimer18:02:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@bytemaster/the-intent-of-code-is-law-c0e0cd318032
SO
Sole One18:02:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
πŸ™Œ
JW
Jason Willis18:02:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
vikas_soni
now in till we don't get official wallet are complicated and don't know how many airdrops we got?
You can see your EOS as the exist on the EOS blockchain, as well as any airdrops you have already received by typing in your account name or public address key into eospark.com , eosflare.io , or the EOS Network Monitor. I recommend eospark. Very nice UI.
MG
Mike Gilchrist18:03:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Withdraw to your EOS address
Public and private key? Both say incorrect address when attempted.
JW
Jason Willis18:03:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
joepritch
Thanks- I saw someone say they were thinking of unstaking them. Why might they do that?
Unstaking them allows you to move them. But it takes 3 days to unstake.
JS
Jim S18:03:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
vikas_soni
for me also?
Rather have them staked to give you a delay before withdrawal. It is normal. Just unstake them 3 days prior to the day you decide to transfer... gives you time to research before pulling the trigger
JW
Jason Willis18:04:15 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
https://medium.com/@bytemaster/the-intent-of-code-is-law-c0e0cd318032
BOOM! Thanks, Dan. Looking forward to reading this one.
JP
Joe Pritchard18:04:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jim S
Rather have them staked to give you a delay before withdrawal. It is normal. Just unstake them 3 days prior to the day you decide to transfer... gives you time to research before pulling the trigger
Any reason not to unstake to make it easier to move when needed?
JS
Jim S18:04:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I hope later we can adjust stake and unstake delay on our own
JS
Jim S18:05:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
joepritch
Any reason not to unstake to make it easier to move when needed?
If you address got phished it gave you that threshold to react.
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)18:05:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaybee777
It's good we still have a few community driven block producers in the top 21. I hope it lasts.
We are also the only US based block producer in the Top 21. No one else in Top 21 has infrastructure in the US.
JS
Jim S18:06:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
joepritch
Any reason not to unstake to make it easier to move when needed?
In the future I hope we can choose our own delayed time between stake and unstake
JW
Jason Willis18:06:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
finchify
We are also the only US based block producer in the Top 21. No one else in Top 21 has infrastructure in the US.
EOS New York? Where is theirs based?
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Shae18:08:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
EOS New York? Where is theirs based?
Not in New York. They're of the "New York state of mind" but their servers are elsewhere
AY
Andrey Y18:09:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isn't greymass have node in US?
JW
Jason Willis18:09:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
Not in New York. They're of the "New York state of mind" but their servers are elsewhere
Ah! Regardless, how many BPs are based in US?
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jmw41118:09:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
BOOM! Thanks, Dan. Looking forward to reading this one.
It was above my head. Not surprisingly.
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marcin66618:10:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Laurbug
That s greath news ...they should of done this before mainnet....so every one could easly vote ....
Scatter was publicly recognizer by Dan. Its a reliable and safe wallet.
JB
Jason Booth18:11:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
finchify
We are also the only US based block producer in the Top 21. No one else in Top 21 has infrastructure in the US.
I'm being a little dramatic too. There are some good block producers in the top 21. I'm just disappointed that any of them are shady. It really was seeming like that wouldn't be possible before the chain launched.
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Shae18:12:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaybee777
I'm being a little dramatic too. There are some good block producers in the top 21. I'm just disappointed that any of them are shady. It really was seeming like that wouldn't be possible before the chain launched.
unfortunately the super-rich always act in their own best interest, not in the interest of the community..
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Gilgamesh18:12:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
unfortunately the super-rich always act in their own best interest, not in the interest of the community..
which could be same in right design
JF
Jared Floyd18:13:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
No, genesis accounts have 8kb, you need to buy ram with eos for contracts, new accounts, etc.
Says I'm using 258b/60.8mb. Doesnt that mean I have 60.8mb of RAM or since I havent bought any additional, I just have the 8kb?
JB
Jason Booth18:13:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
unfortunately the super-rich always act in their own best interest, not in the interest of the community..
Yes. When you have the power to become the community it changes things.
DC
D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·18:13:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Does does such a whale exist? There are also still 971 million EOS that could be used to vote as well.
Yes there are. Check big wallet votes at http://eos-bp-votes. dapptools. info/#/block-producers
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BadWolf18:13:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
does it cost to vote!
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Laur18:13:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Scatter was publicly recognizer by Dan. Its a reliable and safe wallet.
I need ios wallet for my ipad man.....someting simple for everyone to use on phone tablet etc
JF
Jared Floyd18:14:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Laurbug
I need ios wallet for my ipad man.....someting simple for everyone to use on phone tablet etc
Itll get there eventually. For now greymass is simple too.
AY
Andrey Y18:14:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaredfloyd
Says I'm using 258b/60.8mb. Doesnt that mean I have 60.8mb of RAM or since I havent bought any additional, I just have the 8kb?
Yes. Did you buy additional ram?
DC
D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·18:15:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Does does such a whale exist? There are also still 971 million EOS that could be used to vote as well.
Yes they are. check it in Eos -BP-votes
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Shenron18:16:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
eosiochaince Transfer?
PG
Persi Goody18:16:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaredfloyd
Dies eosflare have all the contract addresses to add into greymass as well?
I looked there and didn't see it , may have missed it
E
Emmanuel18:16:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I can't share my medium blog post about Code is not law
E
Emmanuel18:16:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
which is too bad.
E
Emmanuel18:16:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
anyway this is the best decision that you could have made
JF
Jared Floyd18:17:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
Yes, you have 60.8mb. Did you buy additional ram?
Does it automatically buy when I stake tokens?
JW
Jason Willis18:17:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
"The solution to this problem should be technical in nature: implement multisig with biometric protection of hardware wallets with time delays. Each member of the community is responsible for their own security and permissions configuration."
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Emmanuel18:17:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
this whole constitution was a joke, and I hope dan larimer will get support, we should just judge if the code was well executed or not
AY
Andrey Y18:17:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaredfloyd
Does it automatically buy when I stake tokens?
No
JF
Jared Floyd18:18:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
No
Strange. I'm not sure. I'm trying to sell and the sending transaction just keeps going and going. This should be near instant shouldnt it?
AY
Andrey Y18:19:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Strange. Does it mean that some people receive a lot of ram initially while others only near 8kb?
S
Shae18:20:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Everyone should have received 8kb initially.
E
Emmanuel18:21:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The only thing I don't like is that @daniellarimer decided for this change, and no one from the community emerged with a solution
K
Krypto-slay18:23:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
"The solution to this problem should be technical in nature: implement multisig with biometric protection of hardware wallets with time delays. Each member of the community is responsible for their own security and permissions configuration."
Da phuque?
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Krypto-slay18:23:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Makes no sense
JW
Jason Willis18:23:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Krypto-slay
Da phuque?
Read the article.
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nsjames | Scatter18:23:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Check eosflare.io to see if someone bought ram for you.
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nsjames | Scatter18:24:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
God damn though, that's a lot of ram lol
JF
Jared Floyd18:24:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
Strange. Does it mean that some people receive a lot of ram initially while others only near 8kb?
I may have bought ram instead of staking now that I'm looking at it.
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nsjames | Scatter18:24:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
($24,000 actually)
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Jochen De Pril18:24:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
JochenDePril
Is this an email from EOS
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Roshan - EOS Authority18:24:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
JochenDePril
That's not from us. They have been reporting for phishing
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Jochen De Pril18:24:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Ok thx
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nsjames | Scatter18:25:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
JochenDePril
Is this an email from EOS
Does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
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nsjames | Scatter18:25:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Also, of EOS itself starts sending me emails, I'm calling Elon Musk
JD
Jochen De Pril18:26:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?
Does it for you
DC
D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·18:26:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
JochenDePril
Scam
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Xlr818:26:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
If you exceed your ram, does it regenerate?
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marcin66618:26:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Laurbug
I need ios wallet for my ipad man.....someting simple for everyone to use on phone tablet etc
Wait for b one's wallet then
DC
D- Cortes πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·πŸ‡΅πŸ‡·18:26:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Soon Dans super wallet coming. “EOSIO was designed with support for Apple Secure Enclave, Touch ID, Face ID, and time delays. Once deployed in wallets, stealing private keys should be virtually unheard of and time delays should handle the rest.”
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ButtHole18:26:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ContractName is eosadddddddd symbol ADD
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nsjames | Scatter18:27:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
JochenDePril
Does it for you
I'm old. Nothing makes me feel warm and fuzzy anymore. I'm getting a little fuzzy though.
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nsjames | Scatter18:27:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
webdave2000
Soon Dans super wallet coming. “EOSIO was designed with support for Apple Secure Enclave, Touch ID, Face ID, and time delays. Once deployed in wallets, stealing private keys should be virtually unheard of and time delays should handle the rest.”
Don't use touch or face id. Both are highly insecure.
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nsjames | Scatter18:28:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Both are convenience oriented, not security.
JW
Jason Willis18:28:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Also, if EOS itself starts sending me emails, I'm calling Elon Musk
when grimes?
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Xlr818:29:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
If you exceed your ram, does it regenerate?
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Nikko18:29:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Guys how do i create a wallet? Simpleos lets create private keys and all. But whats with the "send a key creation to a friend to activate" thing... Is there any simple wallet that lets you hold and receive airdrops??
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marcin66618:30:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Xlr8up
If you exceed your ram, does it regenerate?
CPU and net regenerate over 24h
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nsjames | Scatter18:30:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Xlr8up
If you exceed your ram, does it regenerate?
Nooe
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marcin66618:30:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Ram does not. You can free it up thought
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nsjames | Scatter18:31:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Ram does not. You can free it up thought
If the dapp let's you.
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nsjames | Scatter18:31:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Which they always should.
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nsjames | Scatter18:31:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
( within reason of course )
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Shae18:31:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaredfloyd
I may have bought ram instead of staking now that I'm looking at it.
Depending on when you bought that ram, you might have made a very happy mistake.
JW
Jason Willis18:31:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nikkonone
Guys how do i create a wallet? Simpleos lets create private keys and all. But whats with the "send a key creation to a friend to activate" thing... Is there any simple wallet that lets you hold and receive airdrops??
Accounts can't be made unless made from an already existing and registered account. I think for a new account, there will always be a 'parent' account.
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Isaiah18:32:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
klemen
Did you unzip the file?
Hey, I was able to download and run eos voter. What is the wallet API? Is that my encrypted key?
SO
Sole One18:32:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Which they always should.
Leo was mentioning potentially introducing an "official" standard for all contract devs to ensure RAM can always be freed up.
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Alex - TheMiNE.io18:35:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hello guys, what can i do if i did not registered my eos jaxx wallet
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Sole One18:35:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Alex_TheMiNE
Hello guys, what can i do if i did not registered my eos jaxx wallet
https://eosauthority.com/blog/how_to_generate_your_EOS_fallback_key_from_ethereum_private_key
JF
Jared Floyd18:39:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Check eosflare.io to see if someone bought ram for you.
Bloody hell that's how much bandwidth I have, RAM is the same as everyone else. I would have felt bad if I had suddenly had 60MB RAM and everyone else had 8kb though lol.
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marcin66618:39:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
If the dapp let's you.
Will daps running in user's ram?
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marcin66618:40:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaredfloyd
Bloody hell that's how much bandwidth I have, RAM is the same as everyone else. I would have felt bad if I had suddenly had 60MB RAM and everyone else had 8kb though lol.
You were rich for a while πŸ˜„
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nsjames | Scatter18:41:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Soleone
Leo was mentioning potentially introducing an "official" standard for all contract devs to ensure RAM can always be freed up.
Official is a heavy word, but the standard for users claiming their own rows is going to be a real one. Otherwise only very large companies with lots of funding can airdrop. As of today, snapshot airdrop costs over $17,000.
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nsjames | Scatter18:42:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Will daps be running in user's ram?
The contract itself no, but the rows of storage a user makes might.
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Michael Emenike18:42:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Any airdrops available?
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mandn18:42:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
threeg5
Public and private key? Both say incorrect address when attempted.
Aye? Public key and private key are not your wallet address are they.
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Angelo Laub | eos-account-creator.com18:42:08 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nikkonone
Guys how do i create a wallet? Simpleos lets create private keys and all. But whats with the "send a key creation to a friend to activate" thing... Is there any simple wallet that lets you hold and receive airdrops??
If you don't have an EOS account yet: https://eos-account-creator.com/
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mandn18:43:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
threeg5
Public and private key? Both say incorrect address when attempted.
Put public key into eosauthority.com and that will tell you wallet address
SO
Sole One18:43:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Yea I meant more like a best practices document and a name for it so your smart contract could be "certified" (which really is just putting a sentence or icon on your website saying to do follow this standard) to follow those best practices letting users have ease of mind that things like freeing up their RAM on demand will be supported.
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Nikko18:43:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
peterloll
If you don't have an EOS account yet: https://eos-account-creator.com/
Thanks πŸ˜„
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Isaiah18:44:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
What does the "RAM" means?
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mandn18:44:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MikeRoid
Any airdrops available?
Yes sir
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Vikas18:44:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jim S
Rather have them staked to give you a delay before withdrawal. It is normal. Just unstake them 3 days prior to the day you decide to transfer... gives you time to research before pulling the trigger
k np
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mandn18:44:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
What does the "RAM" means?
🐏
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Isaiah18:45:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
🐏
Lmao. Please explain what it means and how do I get the airdrop?
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marcin66618:45:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
The contract itself no, but the rows of storage a user makes might.
Got it. Like monsters in monsterseos πŸ˜‚
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mandn18:45:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Isaiahjaiye
Lmao. Please explain what it means and how do I get the airdrop?
RAM is not a airdrop πŸ˜†
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Isaiah18:45:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
RAM is not a airdrop πŸ˜†
I know.
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Andrey Y18:46:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It's memory
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Andrey Y18:46:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Used to store account info and contract data
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nsjames | Scatter18:46:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Got it. Like monsters in monsterseos πŸ˜‚
Precisely
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nsjames | Scatter18:47:08 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
RAM is not a airdrop πŸ˜†
Can I get some please?
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nsjames | Scatter18:47:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Dude who mimics the RAM token will be rich.
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mandn18:47:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Can I get some please?
For you 🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏
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Isaiah18:47:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
Used to store account info and contract data
Thank you.
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Π•Π²Π³Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π“Π°Π΅Π²ΠΎΠΉ18:47:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I wanna see this people who buying much more ram that they r needed, now 64gb ram available, but every BP say few month ago that they will update RAM to 1-2 TB πŸ˜„
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Π•Π²Π³Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π“Π°Π΅Π²ΠΎΠΉ18:47:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
U can loose all of it when ram updated
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Π•Π²Π³Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π“Π°Π΅Π²ΠΎΠΉ18:47:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
When BP udated they hardware alot of people lose money )
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Π•Π²Π³Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π“Π°Π΅Π²ΠΎΠΉ18:47:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
1024 * 1024 * 0.077 * 8$ = 650 000$ per 1 GB RAM
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Π•Π²Π³Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π“Π°Π΅Π²ΠΎΠΉ18:47:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
And it can be at any moment
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Π•Π²Π³Π΅Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π“Π°Π΅Π²ΠΎΠΉ18:47:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Also IPFS will crash price, cause u dont need ram to store all data
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Michael Emenike18:48:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Yes sir
How do i get it boss?
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mandn18:48:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MikeRoid
How do i get it boss?
Hold EOS
TC
thats crypto18:49:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Just dumped my 15k EOS
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Andrey Y18:49:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
SoA432
When BP udated they hardware alot of people lose money )
Such speculators deserved it
TC
thats crypto18:49:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Can't wait till they sort our their internal issues and bugs
TC
thats crypto18:49:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Invested all in ONT which is much better than EOS
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mandn18:49:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
thatspasha
Just dumped my 15k EOS
Did you expect to swing the market? πŸ˜‚
JW
Jason Willis18:50:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
thatspasha
Invested all in ONT which is much better than EOS
Hi. Thanks for sharing.
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nsjames | Scatter18:50:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Don't you know if the ram hit me it would explode?
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Jim18:51:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Randomnobody
Official is a heavy word, but the standard for users claiming their own rows is going to be a real one. Otherwise only very large companies with lots of funding can airdrop. As of today, snapshot airdrop costs over $17,000.
😒
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Shae18:51:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Just dumped all 50k ONT
S
Shae18:51:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Invested all in EOS which is much better than ONT
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Tequila18:51:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Why are people buying up ram like crazy? Can’t the block producers just add more any time they want and drive the price down?
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)18:51:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
EOS New York? Where is theirs based?
They are not based in the US. They use the New York branding but operate everything outside of the US.
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mandn18:51:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
Invested all in EOS which is much better than ONT
πŸ˜†πŸ‘
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)18:51:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
So happy about this. πŸ™πŸ»πŸš€ https://medium.com/eosio/the-intent-of-code-is-law-c0e0cd318032?source=linkShare-31b1470dfd22-1530125303
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Tequila18:51:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Don’t really follow how this ram stuff works
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Andrew18:52:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
SoA432
And it can be at any moment
Like most things. It will take BPs time to come to consensus. Updates will likely be few and far between. If you've noticed anything over the last week. BPs will be cautious of most moves.
YB
Ya B18:53:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Man EOS is going down in flames
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Ian18:54:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I'm a reporter with Bitsonline. If any BPs or other people involved in EOS would like to comment on the new proposal, please contact me. Thanks.
YB
Ya B18:54:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That’s what you get for investing on a promise though lol
AY
Andrey Y18:55:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
JustH0DLIt
Man EOS is going down in flames
Hope you are right, project is great, need to buy more πŸ˜€
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Marc18:55:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hey guys, i got some EOS on binance a few days ago..i apparently can't withdraw until it's on stable ground? Also when i do withdrawal i need to register my EOS?
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Shae18:56:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
Hope you are right, project is great, need to buy more πŸ˜€
Every rocketship needs a lot of flames to moon
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Shae18:56:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MORE FLAMES
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Jakob18:56:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MikeRoid
Any airdrops available?
have you already signed up for the upcoming wizard airdrop? https://tinyurl.com/cryptowizards
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mandn18:56:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MarcBMW
Hey guys, i got some EOS on binance a few days ago..i apparently can't withdraw until it's on stable ground? Also when i do withdrawal i need to register my EOS?
No you just send em to your EOS adddress
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CM18:57:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://www.ccn.com/smartz-have-added-the-ability-to-use-eos-smart-contracts/
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Andrey Y18:57:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jackmi95
have you already signed up for the upcoming wizard airdrop? https://tinyurl.com/cryptowizards
For people who like games, you will get several wizards (nft) for tournament πŸ‘
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Marc18:58:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
No you just send em to your EOS adddress
Ok, obviously I'm new to this... but i don't even know what an EOS address is...i Just knew i wanted some EOS
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Jakob18:58:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
y_andrey
For people who like games, you will get several wizards (nft) for tournament πŸ‘
yea I see huge potencial in this, because if you take a look at how active cryptokitties became. It only failed because of the limit of ethereum
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Jakob18:59:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
eos don't have this kind of scaleability issues, so it could become very popular
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Shae18:59:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
MarcBMW
Ok, obviously I'm new to this... but i don't even know what an EOS address is...i Just knew i wanted some EOS
You'll need an EOS account to withdraw to. My assumption is binance will have a method to create an account while withdrawing for those that don't already have one.
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Andrey Y19:00:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jackmi95
yea I see huge potencial in this, because if you take a look at how active cryptokitties became. It only failed because of the limit of ethereum
breed like rabbits in Australia, out of grass
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Daniel Schwarz (liondani)19:02:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
So when will voting start for the potential new constitution?
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Toooolie19:02:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
liondani
So when will voting start for the potential new constitution?
i hope soon!! we need to move on
MH
Mr. Hobbes19:02:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Start considering you're votes. 15% for 30 consecutive days will be needed to lock this in when it's up for vote.
MH
Mr. Hobbes19:05:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Block One’s Proposed EOS Constitution Referendum 1. The Intent of Code is Law where intent is documented by code, Ricardian Contract, user interfaces, and actual use. 2. If there is a dispute on intent of code, then intent shall be determined by a super majority vote of elected producers or an arbiter mutually agreed to by the parties to the dispute and enacted by producers. A super majority may, at their discretion, freeze a contract during an active dispute until such time as code to fix the contract is available. The parties to the dispute must produce proposed replacement code. The producers may charge a fee and/or place other requirements on the parties to the dispute. A super majority is defined as 2/3+1. Ricardian contractual terms that cannot be enforced by properly functioning code are beyond the scope of the producers authority to evaluate and enforce. 3. At no time shall elected block producers freeze or modify contracts that are operating as intended. 4. Contract developers are not liable for damages caused by bugs in the code. All Parties are responsible for auditing the code and the Ricardian contract before use.5 ll service providers who produce tools to facilitate the construction and signing of transactions on behalf of others shall present the full Ricardian Contract terms of this Constitution and other referenced contracts. 6.No Party shall have a fiduciary responsibility to support the value of the EOS token. The Parties do not authorize anyone to hold assets, borrow, speak, nor contract on behalf of EOS token holders or the blockchain collectively. This blockchain shall have no owners, managers or fiduciaries. 7. Ricardian Contract is deemed accepted when a transaction is incorporated into the blockchain. 8.Parties voluntarily consent for all other Parties to permanently and irrevocably retain a copy, analyze, and distribute all broadcast transactions and derivative information. 9.This Constitution may be executed in any number of counterparts, each of which when executed and delivered, shall constitute a duplicate original, but all counterparts together shall constitute a single agreement. Use of the blockchain shall constitute consent. 10.This Constitution shall may be amended by a vote of the EOS token holders that attracts no less than 15% staked vote participation among tokens and no fewer than 10% more Yes votes than No votes, sustained for 30 continuous days within a 120 day period.
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Marc19:08:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
You'll need an EOS account to withdraw to. My assumption is binance will have a method to create an account while withdrawing for those that don't already have one.
Prefect. Thank. you
CW
Cedric K. Wachira19:09:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
?
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Andrew19:09:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
finchify
So happy about this. πŸ™πŸ»πŸš€ https://medium.com/eosio/the-intent-of-code-is-law-c0e0cd318032?source=linkShare-31b1470dfd22-1530125303
Except that I think he removed vote buying.
RP
R & P’s19:10:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
No you just send em to your EOS adddress
sorry are you saying that i am able to purchase eos atm on binance and transfer them onto an already existing eos address coz a couple of days ago there was an eon coin ( eos network ) but not an eos token as far as i could see.
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Shae19:11:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
andrewquel
Except that I think he removed vote buying.
He said he removed things that were unenforceable by code
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Shae19:12:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
smoothyes
sorry are you saying that i am able to purchase eos atm on binance and transfer them onto an already existing eos address coz a couple of days ago there was an eon coin ( eos network ) but not an eos token as far as i could see.
EOS is still on binance, it hasn't gone anywhere. But you aren't able to transfer in or out right now.
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pappamo19:12:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OpenYourWallet
EOS is still on binance, it hasn't gone anywhere. But you aren't able to transfer in or out right now.
Why?
JW
Jason Willis19:13:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
pappamo
Why?
Binance has disabled the deposit and withdrawals for EOS
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pappamo19:14:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Binance has disabled the deposit and withdrawals for EOS
Technical issues?
JW
Jason Willis19:14:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
pappamo
Technical issues?
No. They're waiting until the EOS mainnet is stable enough for them
FW
Fomo Whale19:17:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Can I buy EOS on binance?
FW
Falling Water19:18:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Yes but don't
FW
Falling Water19:19:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It will be stuck, for trading only
FW
Fomo Whale19:19:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
So there is no way to buy EOS right now?
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jose rodriguez19:19:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
eos dapp cryptostrippers.net?ref=0x170f21e714fbca11467742cbc358cc42ded4e162
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Shae19:19:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
bitfinex, and a few other places
JL
Juni Lee19:19:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
steemit.com/eos/@aeondrift/my-proposal-towards-fighting-back-against-self-voting-whales-on-eos
JL
Juni Lee19:20:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
..
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Shae19:20:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Kraken
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pappamo19:20:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
No. They're waiting until the EOS mainnet is stable enough for them
Hmmm maybe EOS transaction is to fast for Binance 😜
JW
Jason Willis19:20:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
pappamo
Hmmm maybe EOS transaction is to fast for Binance 😜
lol. No has nothing to do with that.
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Shae19:21:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
My guess is they're trying to figure out how they want to deal with account creation for withdrawals when people don't already have an account
FW
Falling Water19:21:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
No reason to lock it up tho
FW
Falling Water19:21:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That's not a valid reason
PM
Praveen M19:24:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Guys‌ what max EOS can go?
PM
Praveen M19:24:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
15$?
T
Toooolie19:25:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Praveen M
Guys‌ what max EOS can go?
1 million
FW
Fomo Whale19:25:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
If it were to get as large at BTC is right now it would be like $115
PM
Praveen M19:25:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Dude
PM
Praveen M19:25:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
FomoWhale
If it were to get as large at BTC is right now it would be like $115
Confused... Can it grow 3 digits?
PM
Praveen M19:26:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
good investment?
FW
Fomo Whale19:26:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
With a 105bill MC yea it can just do the math
M
Michael19:27:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Bevor 1 June i registered my MEW Adress where my Eos Coins was, so I have my Eos private key now. Do I have to move my Coins on the EOS Mainnet somewhere in a Eos - wallet? to get all the airdrops?
FW
Falling Water19:27:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Any time travelers here wanna help out Fomo
FW
Fomo Whale19:27:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I just want my EOS off binance
PM
Praveen M19:27:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Why?
FW
Fomo Whale19:27:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
So I want have it in my wallet lol
PM
Praveen M19:28:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Ok
FW
Fomo Whale19:28:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I can’t have it in my wallet***
FW
Falling Water19:28:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I mean praveem
FW
Fomo Whale19:28:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Right now is the time to buy
FW
Fomo Whale19:28:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
But I’m unsure how to safely buy EOS
FW
Falling Water19:28:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Fomo only option is to sell and buy else where
M
mandn19:30:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
smoothyes
sorry are you saying that i am able to purchase eos atm on binance and transfer them onto an already existing eos address coz a couple of days ago there was an eon coin ( eos network ) but not an eos token as far as i could see.
You can buy but not send yet
M
mandn19:31:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
FomoWhale
But I’m unsure how to safely buy EOS
Binance
J
Joe19:31:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
realtequila
Why are people buying up ram like crazy? Can’t the block producers just add more any time they want and drive the price down?
speculation to the first question and yes to the second
T
Tequila19:31:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Well this is fairly dumb then isn’t it? Buying up a resource that isn’t at all scarce
YJ
Yoann Jolivet19:31:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hi everybody ! coming from EOS911 because I'm looking for solutions... I found back a bundle of EOS on my Exodus Wallet that I didn't registerin time... Tried the fallback solution but didn't work... Is there another way to register my frozen ERC20 EOS tokens ?
M
mandn19:32:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Yoann Jolivet
Hi everybody ! coming from EOS911 because I'm looking for solutions... I found back a bundle of EOS on my Exodus Wallet that I didn't registerin time... Tried the fallback solution but didn't work... Is there another way to register my frozen ERC20 EOS tokens ?
eoskey.io
FW
Fomo Whale19:32:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Binance, Bitfinex, Kraken
So if I buy in binance, are they erc20 or main net tokens?
M
Mike Lawrey19:32:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
!price
FP
Francis Perron19:32:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How much people haven’t heard of ONO? Their channel is sleeping, go give them some love!
YJ
Yoann Jolivet19:33:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
@FomoWhale it's mainnet
FP
Francis Perron19:33:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/ONOUS
M
mandn19:33:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
FomoWhale
So if I buy in binance, are they erc20 or main net tokens?
Do you think when they open withdraws they are gonna say hey you bought erc-20 EOS??? πŸ˜‚
NB
Nicholas Black19:33:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It’s when I read stuff like this that I wish there had been more consideration and communication before the mainnet launch: “...Chief Technical Officer (CTO) of blockchain protocol EOS Dan Larimer has proposed rehauling the project’s existing constitution to limit so-called arbitrators’ powers, in an EOSGov Telegram chat today, June 27. Larimer’s proposal comes in response to recent controversies surrounding the structure of governance on the EOS blockchain, in which three distinct groups work to ‘keep one another in check,’ as defined by the project’s current constitution. These three groups in the EOS ecosystem are the so-called Block Producers (BPs) – the equivalent of miners on the Bitcoin (BTC) blockchain – the arbitrators (EOS Core Arbitration Forum (ECAF)) and Token-Holders.”
J
Joe19:33:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
realtequila
Well this is fairly dumb then isn’t it? Buying up a resource that isn’t at all scarce
it is a scarce resource in EOS and it's a risky tactic to speculate on buying ram but it's working very well for those that are willing to take the risk at the moment
FW
Fomo Whale19:33:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Do you think when they open withdraws they are gonna say hey you bought erc-20 EOS??? πŸ˜‚
Lol. No I don’t.
C
ComfyOwl19:33:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
hey, anybody from eostoolkit online?
M
mandn19:34:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
FomoWhale
Lol. No I don’t.
Well then if you buy on Binance now what do you think you will get when withdrawals open?
J
Joe19:34:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ComfyOwl
hey, anybody from eostoolkit online?
yes, in https://t.me/eostoolkit
C
ComfyOwl19:35:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
We have a new airdrop, CET. I think wallets should start displaying that information: http://eosnetworkmonitor.io/#tx:a98db2a5251ad9bc4c24d4a07248070f2e9c1bb21485ec23fdb87c346db9b9a4
J
Joe19:35:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ComfyOwl
hey, anybody from eostoolkit online?
yes, in the eostoolkit channel
T
Tequila19:35:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mountain_cloud
it is a scarce resource in EOS and it's a risky tactic to speculate on buying ram but it's working very well for those that are willing to take the risk at the moment
So how are people discouraged from hoarding ram?
T
Tequila19:35:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
As doing this will render the network useless
C
ComfyOwl19:35:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mountain_cloud
yes, in the eostoolkit channel
can you link me the channel?
M
marcin66619:35:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
smoothyes
sorry are you saying that i am able to purchase eos atm on binance and transfer them onto an already existing eos address coz a couple of days ago there was an eon coin ( eos network ) but not an eos token as far as i could see.
You can buy on kraken and transfer to your EOS account immediatelly
FW
Fomo Whale19:35:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Well then if you buy on Binance now what do you think you will get when withdrawals open?
Main net
T
Tequila19:35:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
If it’s too expensive to run dapps, EOS does
J
Joe19:36:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ComfyOwl
can you link me the channel?
no mate I can't post links in here, just search for genereos in telegram and you'll find it
M
mandn19:36:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
FomoWhale
Main net
πŸŽ―πŸ‘πŸŽ‰
FW
Fomo Whale19:36:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
πŸŽ―πŸ‘πŸŽ‰
Cheers
YJ
Yoann Jolivet19:37:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
eoskey.io
First thank you for this quick answer ! Then, is there an audit anywhere of this tool ? Already gave my private key to Scatter... I'm a bit afraid....
J
Joe19:37:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
realtequila
So how are people discouraged from hoarding ram?
at some point the block producers will be forced to add more ram and at that point the price will crash instantly, a load of people will lose their investment and balance will be restored
RP
R & P’s19:37:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
You can buy on kraken and transfer to your EOS account immediatelly
Have u tried it yourself?
J
Joe19:38:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
that's a discouragement wouldn't you say?
M
marcin66619:38:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
smoothyes
Have u tried it yourself?
Yes
M
mandn19:38:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
smoothyes
Have u tried it yourself?
You can see transfers from Kraken on mainnet
YJ
Yoann Jolivet19:38:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Do you think I can trust in eoskey.io ?
RP
R & P’s19:39:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Sweet thx guys
YJ
Yoann Jolivet19:39:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Do you think I can trust in eoskey.io ?
M
marcin66619:40:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
smoothyes
Sweet thx guys
They charge 0.05 EOS withdrawal fee if nothing changed in the last 3 days
M
mandn19:41:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
@syed_jafri
JE
Jessica EOS Dublin19:42:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How do I buy EOS?
F
Fatih19:43:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jesshamm
How do I buy EOS?
Kraken exchange
M
marcin66619:43:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jesshamm
How do I buy EOS?
You can buy from exchange, like kraken
M
mandn19:43:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jesshamm
How do I buy EOS?
With BTC or ETH
AL
Apollo Lambo19:44:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
when mainnet tokens on binance?
C
Christian ⚡⚡19:44:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Jesshamm
How do I buy EOS?
stop by Dan Larimer's house. He will sell you some.
SP
Sven Pohl19:44:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
For the most important smart-contract issues (f.e. inter-smartcontract commuication) are currently NO examples designed and no good tutorials are existing. This slows down the EOSIO-Development in an unacceptable way.
M
marcin66619:44:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
With BTC or ETH
With BTC, eth, USD or EUR
M
mandn19:45:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apollolambo888
when mainnet tokens on binance?
Now
AL
Apollo Lambo19:45:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
really?
M
mandn19:45:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
With BTC, eth, USD or EUR
USDT?
AL
Apollo Lambo19:46:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
how come i cant unstake 100% of my EOS on greymass?
M
mandn19:46:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apollolambo888
really?
Yeah but withdrawals haven’t opened yet
AL
Apollo Lambo19:47:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i have to keep like 1 eos staked
M
mandn19:47:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apollolambo888
how come i cant unstake 100% of my EOS on greymass?
You wouldn’t want to, leave a little staked
AL
Apollo Lambo19:47:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
what is benefit?
M
mandn19:47:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apollolambo888
what is benefit?
To make transactions
AL
Apollo Lambo19:47:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
oh so i cant send tokens to binance otherwise?
AL
Apollo Lambo19:49:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
looks like binance is still not accepting EOS deposits
M
mandn19:49:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apollolambo888
oh so i cant send tokens to binance otherwise?
Can’t send or withdraw at the moment
JW
Jason Willis19:49:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apollolambo888
how come i cant unstake 100% of my EOS on greymass?
You have to leave some staked as it holds your place on the blockchain.
M
marcin66619:49:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
USDT?
Usdt also, but you can buy with fiat money on kraken.
LB
Lego Batman19:50:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
what's happening to the EOS vision?
M
mandn19:50:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Usdt also, but you can buy with fiat money on kraken.
BNB
M
marcin66619:51:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
BNB
?
S
sc19:51:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
L3goBatman
what's happening to the EOS vision?
Patience Padawan. May the force be with us. 😁
M
mandn19:51:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
?
Binance Coin
RF
Rob Finch - Cypherglass.com (Block Producer)19:51:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
andrewquel
Except that I think he removed vote buying.
We can add that back in very easily.
LB
Lego Batman19:53:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
scvfx
Patience Padawan. May the force be with us. 😁
si, and also with Dan
LB
Lego Batman19:53:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
is it safe to assume that our assets are safe in their current (default) address
LB
Lego Batman19:53:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I'm hesitant to make transfers
MJ
Mr J19:54:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
finchify
We can add that back in very easily.
Rob what's your opinion on these BPs that are voted in by whales? Do they have a right to be there, should they be removed and if so how?
MM
Mike Mcg19:54:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Why EOS? As in if you hold EOS tokens what do you get for it? Dividends etc?
LB
Lego Batman19:54:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mcgam1
Why EOS? As in if you hold EOS tokens what do you get for it? Dividends etc?
you get a bit of anxiety for now
LB
Lego Batman19:55:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
but hopefully the muddy waters will clear up soon
JL
Juni Lee19:55:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
E0SSS
Rob what's your opinion on these BPs that are voted in by whales? Do they have a right to be there, should they be removed and if so how?
See my proposal here: https://steemit.com/eos/@aeondrift/my-proposal-towards-fighting-back-against-self-voting-whales-on-eos
MM
Mike Mcg19:55:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Yeah I haven’t invested I’ve been all in ontology but that pays a dividend well will soon...just wondering what I’m missing ??
MM
Mike Mcg19:55:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
With EOS
AJ
Abhi Jamnagar19:56:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://goo.gl/mBh4J8
JL
Juni Lee19:56:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
E0SSS
Rob what's your opinion on these BPs that are voted in by whales? Do they have a right to be there, should they be removed and if so how?
Proposals towards fighting back against self-voting whales on EOS aeondrift (25) in eos • yesterday It will be tough for the community to be able to vote those self voting whale BPs out. See distribution of whale votes vs community votes below. http://eos-bp-votes.dapptools.info/s/api/block-producer-votes-stack-html/1/40 I've posted this @daniellarimer on EOSGov on Telegram "I still think my earlier suggestion of logscaling voting power above 1000EOS will be an effective way to prevent whales voting themselves as BP in and not putting the work and mia from ECAF meetings. This way, if a whale wishes to self-vote, then let them tediously split and try to manage thousands of accounts, each with still a substantial amount of EOS if they wise to maximize their voting power. They will of course have to then make sure to keep all those accounts active, and revote constantly to keep themselves as BP. Adding on to my post earlier about log scaling, another suggestion I had made previously on top of this is to introduce a criteria whereby a minimum of independent voters would need to be met. Could even throw in a geographical diversity of voters requirement. Its not fool proof, but adds layers of tediousness and hopefully also cost against self voting whales. More layers of anti-oligarchy protection could be gradually introduced, and to create a more democratically balanced ecosystem, where even those with 100 EOS tokens have some say (against the whales)." People with higher financial stake in EOS will still get higher voting power. Whales with one million coins will have six times the voting power compared to those with one coin for a log10 scaling function. Could switch to other types of log scaling or other less harsh functions too, to find the balance btwn financial stake based voting-power and the threat of massive whales being able to control the system by virtue of the resource they have to bend it to their will. Also if any whale is caught trying to game the system, and if they get hacked while trying to bot managed their thousands of accounts, then make it such that their funds will risk being burned with accord to the constitution. We need to start somewhere. Implement these layers to make it difficult and requiring more effort for whales to game the system, study it, come up with more solutions, and add to and improve the existing protection gradually, inch by inch, etc. But somethings needs to be done against self-voting whales now than later. — Basically my suggestion was simply to force self-voting whales into risking their investments (i.e. needing to manage their funds across thousands of addresses via bots) + the effort needed to to ensure those self-votes appear sufficiently diversified different regions of the world, and so on. Perhaps making it compulsory for people to spend 2/3 of their votes on BPs below the top 21 would be another layer of protection to consider. Or perhaps limiting renewed votes completely to only BP candidates below the top 21, which will force BPs to rotate! i.e. when people renew their votes, they will have to consider alt BPs.. hence more BPs will have a chance of earning more to maintain their servers, plus each BPs (standby/active) can be trailed and tested by the community over time and their performances be gauged during their active phase. === Clarification (again): This certainly is not intended as a perfect solution, but a start towards fighting back, and increasing the risk of self-voting as the whales will then have to resort to bot manage their crazy number of split accounts to maximize their voting power, and probably with some cost too. And on top of it, other layers of discouraging self-voting by whales have been suggested, and more can be added to and built on top of it, and evolve as we go. ~ transhumanio @eos
JL
Juni Lee19:56:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Proposals towards fighting back against self-voting whales on EOS aeondrift (25) in eos • yesterday It will be tough for the community to be able to vote those self voting whale BPs out. See distribution of whale votes vs community votes below. http://eos-bp-votes.dapptools.info/s/api/block-producer-votes-stack-html/1/40 I've posted this @daniellarimer on EOSGov on Telegram "I still think my earlier suggestion of logscaling voting power above 1000EOS will be an effective way to prevent whales voting themselves as BP in and not putting the work and mia from ECAF meetings. This way, if a whale wishes to self-vote, then let them tediously split and try to manage thousands of accounts, each with still a substantial amount of EOS if they wise to maximize their voting power. They will of course have to then make sure to keep all those accounts active, and revote constantly to keep themselves as BP. Adding on to my post earlier about log scaling, another suggestion I had made previously on top of this is to introduce a criteria whereby a minimum of independent voters would need to be met. Could even throw in a geographical diversity of voters requirement. Its not fool proof, but adds layers of tediousness and hopefully also cost against self voting whales. More layers of anti-oligarchy protection could be gradually introduced, and to create a more democratically balanced ecosystem, where even those with 100 EOS tokens have some say (against the whales)." People with higher financial stake in EOS will still get higher voting power. Whales with one million coins will have six times the voting power compared to those with one coin for a log10 scaling function. Could switch to other types of log scaling or other less harsh functions too, to find the balance btwn financial stake based voting-power and the threat of massive whales being able to control the system by virtue of the resource they have to bend it to their will. Also if any whale is caught trying to game the system, and if they get hacked while trying to bot managed their thousands of accounts, then make it such that their funds will risk being burned with accord to the constitution. We need to start somewhere. Implement these layers to make it difficult and requiring more effort for whales to game the system, study it, come up with more solutions, and add to and improve the existing protection gradually, inch by inch, etc. But somethings needs to be done against self-voting whales now than later. — Basically my suggestion was simply to force self-voting whales into risking their investments (i.e. needing to manage their funds across thousands of addresses via bots) + the effort needed to to ensure those self-votes appear sufficiently diversified different regions of the world, and so on. Perhaps making it compulsory for people to spend 2/3 of their votes on BPs below the top 21 would be another layer of protection to consider. Or perhaps limiting renewed votes completely to only BP candidates below the top 21, which will force BPs to rotate! i.e. when people renew their votes, they will have to consider alt BPs.. hence more BPs will have a chance of earning more to maintain their servers, plus each BPs (standby/active) can be trailed and tested by the community over time and their performances be gauged during their active phase. === Clarification (again): This certainly is not intended as a perfect solution, but a start towards fighting back, and increasing the risk of self-voting as the whales will then have to resort to bot manage their crazy number of split accounts to maximize their voting power, and probably with some cost too. And on top of it, other layers of discouraging self-voting by whales have been suggested, and more can be added to and built on top of it, and evolve as we go. ~ transhumanio
MJ
Mr J19:56:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
What exchanges are trading EOS main net tokens currently?
MJ
Mr J19:57:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
That will take withdrawals /deposits
JL
Juni Lee19:57:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
My post on SteemIt Proposals towards fighting back against self-voting whales on EOS aeondrift (25) in eos • yesterday It will be tough for the community to be able to vote those self voting whale BPs out. I've posted this @daniellarimer on EOSGov on Telegram "I still think my earlier suggestion of logscaling voting power above 1000EOS will be an effective way to prevent whales voting themselves as BP in and not putting the work and mia from ECAF meetings. This way, if a whale wishes to self-vote, then let them tediously split and try to manage thousands of accounts, each with still a substantial amount of EOS if they wise to maximize their voting power. They will of course have to then make sure to keep all those accounts active, and revote constantly to keep themselves as BP. Adding on to my post earlier about log scaling, another suggestion I had made previously on top of this is to introduce a criteria whereby a minimum of independent voters would need to be met. Could even throw in a geographical diversity of voters requirement. Its not fool proof, but adds layers of tediousness and hopefully also cost against self voting whales. More layers of anti-oligarchy protection could be gradually introduced, and to create a more democratically balanced ecosystem, where even those with 100 EOS tokens have some say (against the whales)." People with higher financial stake in EOS will still get higher voting power. Whales with one million coins will have six times the voting power compared to those with one coin for a log10 scaling function. Could switch to other types of log scaling or other less harsh functions too, to find the balance btwn financial stake based voting-power and the threat of massive whales being able to control the system by virtue of the resource they have to bend it to their will. Also if any whale is caught trying to game the system, and if they get hacked while trying to bot managed their thousands of accounts, then make it such that their funds will risk being burned with accord to the constitution. We need to start somewhere. Implement these layers to make it difficult and requiring more effort for whales to game the system, study it, come up with more solutions, and add to and improve the existing protection gradually, inch by inch, etc. But somethings needs to be done against self-voting whales now than later. — Basically my suggestion was simply to force self-voting whales into risking their investments (i.e. needing to manage their funds across thousands of addresses via bots) + the effort needed to to ensure those self-votes appear sufficiently diversified different regions of the world, and so on. Perhaps making it compulsory for people to spend 2/3 of their votes on BPs below the top 21 would be another layer of protection to consider. Or perhaps limiting renewed votes completely to only BP candidates below the top 21, which will force BPs to rotate! i.e. when people renew their votes, they will have to consider alt BPs.. hence more BPs will have a chance of earning more to maintain their servers, plus each BPs (standby/active) can be trailed and tested by the community over time and their performances be gauged during their active phase. === Clarification (again): This certainly is not intended as a perfect solution, but a start towards fighting back, and increasing the risk of self-voting as the whales will then have to resort to bot manage their crazy number of split accounts to maximize their voting power, and probably with some cost too. And on top of it, other layers of discouraging self-voting by whales have been suggested, and more can be added to and built on top of it, and evolve as we go. ~ transhumanio
MM
Mike Mcg19:57:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
L3goBatman
but hopefully the muddy waters will clear up soon
Do you get free tokens or how do people expect to profit from EOS?
JL
Juni Lee19:57:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
E0SSS
Rob what's your opinion on these BPs that are voted in by whales? Do they have a right to be there, should they be removed and if so how?
"I still think my earlier suggestion of logscaling voting power above 1000EOS will be an effective way to prevent whales voting themselves as BP in and not putting the work and mia from ECAF meetings. This way, if a whale wishes to self-vote, then let them tediously split and try to manage thousands of accounts, each with still a substantial amount of EOS if they wise to maximize their voting power. They will of course have to then make sure to keep all those accounts active, and revote constantly to keep themselves as BP. Adding on to my post earlier about log scaling, another suggestion I had made previously on top of this is to introduce a criteria whereby a minimum of independent voters would need to be met. Could even throw in a geographical diversity of voters requirement. Its not fool proof, but adds layers of tediousness and hopefully also cost against self voting whales. More layers of anti-oligarchy protection could be gradually introduced, and to create a more democratically balanced ecosystem, where even those with 100 EOS tokens have some say (against the whales)." People with higher financial stake in EOS will still get higher voting power. Whales with one million coins will have six times the voting power compared to those with one coin for a log10 scaling function. Could switch to other types of log scaling or other less harsh functions too, to find the balance btwn financial stake based voting-power and the threat of massive whales being able to control the system by virtue of the resource they have to bend it to their will. Also if any whale is caught trying to game the system, and if they get hacked while trying to bot managed their thousands of accounts, then make it such that their funds will risk being burned with accord to the constitution. We need to start somewhere. Implement these layers to make it difficult and requiring more effort for whales to game the system, study it, come up with more solutions, and add to and improve the existing protection gradually, inch by inch, etc. But somethings needs to be done against self-voting whales now than later. — Basically my suggestion was simply to force self-voting whales into risking their investments (i.e. needing to manage their funds across thousands of addresses via bots) + the effort needed to to ensure those self-votes appear sufficiently diversified different regions of the world, and so on. Perhaps making it compulsory for people to spend 2/3 of their votes on BPs below the top 21 would be another layer of protection to consider. Or perhaps limiting renewed votes completely to only BP candidates below the top 21, which will force BPs to rotate! i.e. when people renew their votes, they will have to consider alt BPs.. hence more BPs will have a chance of earning more to maintain their servers, plus each BPs (standby/active) can be trailed and tested by the community over time and their performances be gauged during their active phase. === Clarification (again): This certainly is not intended as a perfect solution, but a start towards fighting back, and increasing the risk of self-voting as the whales will then have to resort to bot manage their crazy number of split accounts to maximize their voting power, and probably with some cost too. And on top of it, other layers of discouraging self-voting by whales have been suggested, and more can be added to and built on top of it, and evolve as we go. ~ transhumanio
Z
Zafar19:58:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mcgam1
Do you get free tokens or how do people expect to profit from EOS?
Airdrops and leasing of eos tokens
S
sc19:59:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
E0SSS
Rob what's your opinion on these BPs that are voted in by whales? Do they have a right to be there, should they be removed and if so how?
They have the most at risk, so they should be able to vote. How would you propose stopping whales from voting. They can make new accounts. Maybe small holders form their own voting block. I think it is too early to see how this will play out. Let’s get some hardware wallets that are easy to use and more people will vote. Right now people are playing wait and see with the wallets out there.
MM
Mike Mcg19:59:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Thanks I’ll do some googling....πŸ‘obviously I missed the boat on EOS but with a lot of FUD around about the wallets and stuff I thought i might try figure what all the fuss was about
Z
Zafar19:59:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
https://www.chintai-eos.io
MM
Mike Mcg19:59:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Worth buying now?
SP
Sven Pohl20:01:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
WHEN LAMBO? NO - WHEN SMART-CONTRACT TUTORIAL! For the most important smart-contract issues (f.e. inter-smartcontract commuication) are currently NO examples designed and no good tutorials are existing. This slows down the EOSIO-Development in an unacceptable way. This are currently the most important features, I would wish a hello-world code like the "hello"-project * How to print blockchain-data, f.e. current block number * How to call functions (with parameters and return) of an external smartcontract * How to get the EOS balance of an calling account_name * How to receive EOS in a function, how to transfer EOS programaticaly in a function * How to save/read Arrays/Structures in a smartcontract * How to read/write data with javascript and scatter (like metamask on ethereum) (including small html/js-example [please NO nodejs-code!]) The most difficulty are caused by unreadable/no-informative error-codes during compiling or using the "cleos set contract" - command.
Z
Zafar20:01:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Always worth buying the dip; selecting the right asset is a gamble.
T
Tom20:03:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
@admin does all airdrops in the mainnet too? All of them aren't erc20 right?
SR
Steve Rodrigue20:04:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I'm building a decentralized marketplace of micro loans and plan to use EOS as its currency. Im looking for beta testers. Anyone interested? Heres the announcement on bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/2018-05-31/xmn-blockchain-selects-urbanimmersive-line-of-credit-solution-for-the-development-of-their-first-showcase
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mandn20:04:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
@admin does all airdrops in the mainnet too? All of them aren't erc20 right?
If they are in your EOS wallet they are mainnet
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Tom20:05:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How can i Check that? Already i checked myetherwallet too. There are the Tokens to see
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mandn20:05:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
How can i Check that? Already i checked myetherwallet too. There are the Tokens to see
eospark.com
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Zafar20:07:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Eostracker.io
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Tom20:08:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Are the eosdac, meet.one, keos not ERC 20?
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Steve Rodrigue20:08:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Im building a decentralized marketplace of microloans. Looking for beta testers. Anyone interested? We were announced on bloomberg. I cant post the link thought apparently...
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mandn20:08:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
Are the eosdac, meet.one, keos not ERC 20?
At the moment
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mandn20:08:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
xmnsteve
Im building a decentralized marketplace of microloans. Looking for beta testers. Anyone interested? We were announced on bloomberg. I cant post the link thought apparently...
You just did
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Anton C20:09:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Does anyone know when our eos held hostage in exodus will be released
It’s not held hostage, you can export your private key and access your funds you dummy.
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Gavin20:09:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mountain_cloud
at some point the block producers will be forced to add more ram and at that point the price will crash instantly, a load of people will lose their investment and balance will be restored
i read something that stated no profit is made from purchasing RAM.. like if you end up selling, only the amount you used to purchase it will be returned. Is this correct?
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Navayeus20:09:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
antonomono
It’s not held hostage, you can export your private key and access your funds you dummy.
Ok and do what dummy? Transfer them to simpleos wallet
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Navayeus20:09:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
And what exchange to i send them to dummy?
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Navayeus20:09:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Still rendered useless dummy
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mandn20:10:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Doesn’t show all airdrops like eospark for me, how about you?
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Anton C20:10:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Still rendered useless dummy
You’re not very clever nor intelligent, but you think you’re being witty which is sort of sad
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Anton C20:10:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Check your airdrops, but there’s nothing you can do your EOS tokens now. If you want to move them, go ahead. Export them to greymass wallet.
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mandn20:10:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
antonomono
It’s not held hostage, you can export your private key and access your funds you dummy.
lol
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Skippy Peterson20:11:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Ok and do what dummy? Transfer them to simpleos wallet
Is the simpleos wallet a good wallet to store eos?
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Navayeus20:11:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Oh ok, you've turn to insults because you can't keep up mentally lol go do something , asshat
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mandn20:12:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
macdreidle
Is the simpleos wallet a good wallet to store eos?
It’s not a store! It’s just a way to access and transact
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mandn20:13:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
macdreidle
Is the simpleos wallet a good wallet to store eos?
EOS etc are attached to your address on the blockchain
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marcin66620:13:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Binance Coin
Don't think kraken trades it
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mandn20:13:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Don't think kraken trades it
Binance does πŸ˜‰
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Mr J20:13:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
aeondrift
My proposal to fight back against whale self-voting. I still think my earlier suggestion of logscaling voting power above 1000EOS will be an effective way to prevent whales voting themselves as BP in and not putting the work and mia from ECAF meetings. This way, if a whale wishes to self-vote, then let them tediously split and try to manage thousands of accounts, each with still a substantial amount of EOS if they wise to maximize their voting power. They will of course have to then make sure to keep all those accounts active, and revote constantly to keep themselves as BP. Adding on to my post earlier about log scaling, another suggestion I had made previously on top of this is to introduce a criteria whereby a minimum of independent voters would need to be met. Could even throw in a geographical diversity of voters requirement. Its not fool proof, but adds layers of tediousness and hopefully also cost against self voting whales. More layers of anti-oligarchy protection could be gradually introduced, and to create a more democratically balanced ecosystem, where even those with 100 EOS tokens have some say (against the whales)." People with higher financial stake in EOS will still get higher voting power. Whales with one million coins will have six times the voting power compared to those with one coin for a log10 scaling function. Could switch to other types of log scaling or other less harsh functions too, to find the balance btwn financial stake based voting-power and the threat of massive whales being able to control the system by virtue of the resource they have to bend it to their will. Also if any whale is caught trying to game the system, and if they get hacked while trying to bot managed their thousands of accounts, then make it such that their funds will risk being burned with accord to the constitution. We need to start somewhere. Implement these layers to make it difficult and requiring more effort for whales to game the system, study it, come up with more solutions, and add to and improve the existing protection gradually, inch by inch, etc. But somethings needs to be done against self-voting whales now than later. — Basically my suggestion was simply to force self-voting whales into risking their investments (i.e. needing to manage their funds across thousands of addresses via bots) + the effort needed to to ensure those self-votes appear sufficiently diversified different regions of the world, and so on. Perhaps making it compulsory for people to spend 2/3 of their votes on BPs below the top 21 would be another layer of protection to consider. Or perhaps limiting renewed votes completely to only BP candidates below the top 21, which will force BPs to rotate! i.e. when people renew their votes, they will have to consider alt BPs.. hence more BPs will have a chance of earning more to maintain their servers, plus each BPs (standby/active) can be trailed and tested by the community over time and their performances be gauged during their active phase. === Clarification (again): This certainly is not intended as a perfect solution, but a start towards fighting back, and increasing the risk of self-voting as the whales will then have to resort to bot manage their crazy number of split accounts to maximize their voting power, and probably with some cost too. And on top of it, other layers of discouraging self-voting by whales have been suggested, and more can be added to and built on top of it, and evolve as we go. ~ transhumanio
I see potential in the log scaling idea but I think you underestimate how easy it is for whales to securely manage thousands of accounts, even from seemingly different locations. If votes could be tied to an ID log scaling would be great.
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Sean X A eos sw/eden20:14:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
RAM speculation has come up in a few conversations... This is our take... https://steemit.com/eos/@eos.sw-eden/ram-speculation-it-s-not-for-us
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Skippy Peterson20:14:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
EOS etc are attached to your address on the blockchain
Ah. Ok. Currently there doesn’t seem to be a way to send eos from simpleos to an exchange. Any idea what’s going on with that?
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marcin66620:14:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
Are the eosdac, meet.one, keos not ERC 20?
Eos dać already dropped tokens to Eos mainnet
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mandn20:14:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Ok and do what dummy? Transfer them to simpleos wallet
You can’t transfer something that’s frozen
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Navayeus20:14:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Hence the term held hostage.
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mandn20:14:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
And what exchange to i send them to dummy?
Whatever exchange you want that trades EOS and allows deposits at the moment
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Navayeus20:15:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Whatever exchange you want that trades EOS and allows deposits at the moment
List them please...
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Joe20:15:15 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i read something that stated no profit is made from purchasing RAM.. like if you end up selling, only the amount you used to purchase it will be returned. Is this correct?
No incorrect, people have made a killing on buying and selling ram, it's literally happening now. Totally risky tactic but a risk some people are willing to take
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mandn20:15:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Hence the term held hostage.
They are not held hostage you just don’t understand much
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mandn20:15:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
List them please...
Kraken, Bitfinex
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marcin66620:15:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
macdreidle
Ah. Ok. Currently there doesn’t seem to be a way to send eos from simpleos to an exchange. Any idea what’s going on with that?
You can transfer to kraken exchange. Very few exchanges made themself ready
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Navayeus20:15:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Bitfinex requires 10k usd
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Andrey Y20:15:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
List them please...
You can see list on coinmarketcap
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mandn20:15:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
List them please...
Not that it’s been talked about a million times or people could do their own research
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Tom20:15:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Eosdac already dropped tokens to Eos mainnet
So it's not possible anymore to send out any eos or airdrops of eos out from myetherwallet?
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Navayeus20:16:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Kraken address to send then is krakenkraken
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mandn20:16:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Kraken address to send then is krakenkraken
Oh my...
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Mr J20:16:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
scvfx
They have the most at risk, so they should be able to vote. How would you propose stopping whales from voting. They can make new accounts. Maybe small holders form their own voting block. I think it is too early to see how this will play out. Let’s get some hardware wallets that are easy to use and more people will vote. Right now people are playing wait and see with the wallets out there.
I do not have the answers but I am interested to hear the opinion of one of the seemingly few credible BPs. Look at the votes of zbeos111 and eosstore, the community will not be able to out vote these whales.
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Gavin20:17:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mountain_cloud
No incorrect, people have made a killing on buying and selling ram, it's literally happening now. Totally risky tactic but a risk some people are willing to take
someone shared this with me a few days a go.. /** - * While buying ram uses the current market price according to the bancor-algorithm, selling ram only - * refunds the purchase price to the account. In this way there is no profit to be made through buying - * and selling ram.
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marcin66620:17:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
So it's not possible anymore to send out any eos or airdrops of eos out from myetherwallet?
These tokens are useless now. They were given temporarily to prove your stake
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mandn20:17:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
So it's not possible anymore to send out any eos or airdrops of eos out from myetherwallet?
They will all be on EOS
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Mr J20:17:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Which exchanges are taking deposits / withdrawals now?
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Tom20:18:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
OK. What a luck. Because myetherwallet was hacked .
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marcin66620:18:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
Kraken address to send then is krakenkraken
Don't forget your personal memo! With no memo your funds may get lost
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Tom20:18:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Some Others has been Stolen
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mandn20:18:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
E0SSS
Which exchanges are taking deposits / withdrawals now?
Scroll up
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Tom20:18:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Not any eos and airdrops. Some Others
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mandn20:18:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
OK. What a luck. Because myetherwallet was hacked .
I doubt it was hacked
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Joe20:19:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
someone shared this with me a few days a go.. /** - * While buying ram uses the current market price according to the bancor-algorithm, selling ram only - * refunds the purchase price to the account. In this way there is no profit to be made through buying - * and selling ram.
not a clue mate - all I can say is that doesn't agree with the dozens of reports from different redditors in r/eos that have doubled their stack or better trading ram
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Gavin20:19:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
cool thanks man
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Mr J20:19:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
Scroll up
Thanks
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Gavin20:19:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i don't understand the ram very well and am actually a bit bitter about it
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Rick Beentjes20:20:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Same
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Gavin20:20:28 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i guess i just feel like RAM should have been part of the EOS investment
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Tom20:20:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mandnmandn
I doubt it was hacked, maybe you got phished
You mean i was got an Phishing Site?
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Gavin20:20:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
separating them seems very unfair
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Navayeus20:20:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
4k in funding would have done a better job. Why is dan larimer considering scrapping the constitution now?
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marcin66620:20:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
OK. What a luck. Because myetherwallet was hacked .
Do you still have keys to it? There are some drops which will go to a different nets, like everipedia I think
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Gavin20:20:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
but like i said.. i don't understand it not trying to be a hater
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Navayeus20:20:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
This is steem 2.0 alright
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geo land20:21:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How can i recover eos private key using eth private key???
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Joe20:21:17 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i don't understand the ram very well and am actually a bit bitter about it
it's probably best left well alone unless you're the gambling type or have a real world use for it e.g. a dApp
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Navayeus20:21:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I cant even give away my eos because i dont any1 else stuck with them
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Navayeus20:21:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Fuck this
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Rasti20:21:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Why can't unstaked my Eos tokens
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Gavin20:21:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i get it.. but i was always under the impression all i needed was EOS to run dapps which is why i bought in
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Marlon | Qubicles | EOS Miami20:21:56 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
I cant even give away my eos because i dont any1 else stuck with them
How are you stuck with them?
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Joe20:22:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
I cant even give away my eos because i dont any1 else stuck with them
I'll take em for free 🀣
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Mr J20:22:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
OK. What a luck. Because myetherwallet was hacked .
There was a DNS hack with an ISP, totally out of the hands of thr MEW team. MEW traffic was redirected to phishing page. Installing metamask would flag this.
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Gavin20:22:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
if i would have known RAM was entirely separate I may have never actually bought tbh
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Gavin20:22:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
now the people trading ram are doubling their money and more and the average holders are taking a bath
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Andrey Y20:22:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
geolandgr
How can i recover eos private key using eth private key???
EOS911 telegram group
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Jason Willis20:22:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Navayeus
I cant even give away my eos because i dont any1 else stuck with them
I'll takt them......but no really. What issue are you having?
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Tom20:23:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Do you still have keys to it? There are some drops which will go to a different nets, like everipedia I think
What do you mean? I needed the address to get come in
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Jason Willis20:23:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
now the people trading ram are doubling their money and more and the average holders are taking a bath
But this is available to anybody?
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marcin66620:23:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
geolandgr
How can i recover eos private key using eth private key???
How did you create your EOS account? From the eth key over the fallback process?
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Gavin20:23:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
with great risk apparently
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Joe20:23:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
now the people trading ram are doubling their money and more and the average holders are taking a bath
aye that's one way to look at it or another way is they're taking a massive risk on a speculative thing that can crash any moment
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Gavin20:24:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i still think it should be tied to EOS and not seperate
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Joe20:24:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
if BPs add more ram the price will crash instantly
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Tom20:24:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
E0SSS
There was a DNS hack with an ISP, totally out of the hands of thr MEW team. MEW traffic was redirected to phishing page. Installing metamask would flag this.
So many others could be Stolen too?
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Tom20:24:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Where can i read about that?
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Jason Willis20:24:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
with great risk apparently
What risk?
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Gavin20:24:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
BPs add ram
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Gavin20:24:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
prices plummet
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marcin66620:25:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
What do you mean? I needed the address to get come in
What tokens did they take?
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Gavin20:25:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
it also creates one helluva opportunity for insider trading
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Gavin20:25:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
BPs know when they are going to add ram and can easily time the market
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Gavin20:25:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
like shooting fish in a barrel
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Gavin20:25:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
it's the only think I'm really upset about regarding EOS
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eosblockzero20:25:57 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
lol..talkig about the same thing in BlockPros, RAM speculation seem to be THE issue.
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Gavin20:26:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
everything else i love but this just seems shady
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Tom20:26:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
E0SSS
There was a DNS hack with an ISP, totally out of the hands of thr MEW team. MEW traffic was redirected to phishing page. Installing metamask would flag this.
How can that be that anyone can send out whitout an private Key?
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Jason Willis20:26:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
prices plummet
You mean the price of ram or the price of EOS?
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Joe20:26:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
it also creates one helluva opportunity for insider trading
I agree on this but the decision to add more ram takes a 2/3+1 vote from the top 21
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Gavin20:26:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
You mean the price of ram or the price of EOS?
RAM
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marcin66620:26:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
it also creates one helluva opportunity for insider trading
Good point
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Joe20:26:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
if it gets green lighted then all BPs have to increase to the same ram level
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eosblockzero20:26:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
@Joe So 2/3-1 can dump the RAM market inyecting liquidity at will.
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Gavin20:26:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
yes
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Tom20:26:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
What tokens did they take?
It's not important. They are away
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Gavin20:26:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
they can just dump ahead of votes
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Gavin20:27:16 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
it's a problem IMO
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marcin66620:27:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Tommi_12
It's not important. They are away
Any Eos drops disappeared?
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Jason Willis20:27:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Any Eos drops disappeared?
....???
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Joe20:27:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
yes it's really risky, fraught with uncertainty, not a solid "investment"
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O O20:28:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The RAM situation is no good
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Jason Willis20:28:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
they can just dump ahead of votes
Won't all of this just increase the value of EOS in general though?
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Tom20:28:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I ask me how can although i was maybe in a Phishing Site someone send Tokens out without any private key
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Gavin20:28:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
not only does it potentially make it cost prohibitive for developers to launch a dApp with all the speculators driving prices up
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Gavin20:28:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
BPs can easily manipulate it
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Gavin20:28:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
what if they are launching their own dapps
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Gavin20:29:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
and another comes along that is better and directly competes
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Jason Willis20:29:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
not only does it potentially make it cost prohibitive for developers to launch a dApp with all the speculators driving prices up
That's the whole point of them doing airdrops.
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Tom20:29:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Any Eos drops disappeared?
No.
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Gavin20:29:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
and they decide to vote against it just becaseu they don't want the competition
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eosblockzero20:29:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
well, the problem, maintaining blockchain state is costly
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Tom20:29:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
They aren't erc20 anymore so they couldn't sent out
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Gavin20:29:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
That's the whole point of them doing airdrops.
airdrops are becoming more expensive directly because of ram
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Gavin20:29:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
RAM is required to make a new account
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Andrey Y20:29:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
marcin666
Any Eos drops disappeared?
Yes, Yair
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Jason Willis20:30:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
and another comes along that is better and directly competes
On what blockchain though? This is the fastest blockchain available. I feel like costs would even out if on another slower costly network.
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Tom20:30:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
@admin I ask me how can although i was maybe in a Phishing Site someone send Tokens out without any private key
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Gavin20:30:19 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
on this blockchain
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Tom20:30:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How can i read about this Hack?
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Jason Willis20:30:25 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
airdrops are becoming more expensive directly because of ram
They recoup that ram when the airdropped coins or tokens are claimed.
JW
Jason Willis20:30:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
RAM is required to make a new account
Yes, to maintain your account on the blockchain.
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Gavin20:30:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
still creates a much higher initial investment requirement
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Tom20:30:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Mr J: There was a DNS hack with an ISP, totally out of the hands of thr MEW team. MEW traffic was redirected to phishing page. Installing metamask would flag this.
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Tom20:31:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How can i read about IT?
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Gavin20:31:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i'm not trying to FUD
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Gavin20:31:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i'm a hodler
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Gavin20:31:18 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i've held through all this
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Joe20:31:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
the ram scarcity sort of created the speculative market we see now but at the other end of the scale of there was no scarcity and they had started with say 2TB of ram rather than 64GB, it could have been a whale party buying ram in massive amounts
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Gavin20:31:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
but when i see potential issues i'm going to speak about htem
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eosblockzero20:31:31 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
if you launch a contract with its own “balances”, and for every “account” you need to keep the balance “callable” at any moment (whithout the need to transverse the whole block.log), the you need to put it on RAM. (or at least on a very fast solid state disk)
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Jason Willis20:31:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i'm not trying to FUD
Nah I don't think you are. I think you're raising good points. I just see it slightly different.
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Gavin20:31:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i appreciate your views too
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Jason Willis20:31:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
but when i see potential issues i'm going to speak about htem
Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Jash πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί20:31:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How do u buy ram
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Gavin20:32:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
because i dont completely udnerstand it
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Nevander - LojaBit.com20:32:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
is there any site that shows the airdrops already distributed?
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Gavin20:32:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i just think RAM should have been fixed to EOS on a % basis
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Gavin20:32:22 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
not another market inside a market
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Gavin20:32:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
you want more ram
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Gavin20:32:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
buy more damn eos
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Gavin20:32:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
if it becomes too expensie this way
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Gavin20:32:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
BPs increase
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Gavin20:33:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
afterall if the price is going up making ram too expensive on a per EOS basis then they are making more money and can invest it into the network
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Jason Willis20:33:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mountain_cloud
the ram scarcity sort of created the speculative market we see now but at the other end of the scale of there was no scarcity and they had started with say 2TB of ram rather than 64GB, it could have been a whale party buying ram in massive amounts
This is also refering to a blockchain where less than a 3rd have voted, and a significantly smaller amount than that understand or have any interest in pursuing the buying and selling of RAM. I think once it becomes more streamlined, RAM will be abundantly available.
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Thiago Martins20:33:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Yeah, BPs MUST be dynamic...
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Gavin20:33:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i feel like i bought a all you can eat buffet and have to pay extra for them to cook it for me
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Thiago Martins20:33:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
If EOS price rockets, then, BP infra MUST grow as well.
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Gavin20:34:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
best way i can describe it
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Joe Jordan20:34:24 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Get a list of all the airdrops you are expected to receive: http://airdropcalculator.horuspay.io
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Thiago Martins20:34:43 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i feel like i bought a all you can eat buffet and have to pay extra for them to cook it for me
Go sushi! lol
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Gavin20:34:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
haha
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Nevander - LojaBit.com20:35:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
joejordan
Get a list of all the airdrops you are expected to receive: http://airdropcalculator.horuspay.io
nice list, tyvm
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Gavin20:35:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i actually saw some guy on Github talking about the ram issue and he seemed to have a fix
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Anonymous20:36:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
BPs add ram
Finnaly! Fu** sick! many people stop do airdroops because of RAM shorts
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Jason Willis20:36:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i feel like i bought a all you can eat buffet and have to pay extra for them to cook it for me
I see your analogy here. However, in this situation this is feature that you can choose to participate in, or not. Your EOS are still your EOS and they will retain their own value. Using your analogy, you still get your buffet. But if you're asking the cook to make you something extra and take a gamble that you may get something really nice or something meh, you have that option, but you don't have to if you don't want to.
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Nevil H20:37:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Is there an EOS dev telegram group? Can't find any
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Jason Willis20:37:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Nevil H
Is there an EOS dev telegram group? Can't find any
Check in the pinned message.
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Nevil H20:37:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Check in the pinned message.
πŸ‘
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Gavin20:38:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
I see your analogy here. However, in this situation this is feature that you can choose to participate in, or not. Your EOS are still your EOS and they will retain their own value. Using your analogy, you still get your buffet. But if you're asking the cook to make you something extra and take a gamble that you may get something really nice or something meh, you have that option, but you don't have to if you don't want to.
I get it, but i see things fundamentally different. I shouldn't have to pay extra for something special.. EOS is supposed to be special enough already.. or that' show it was sold to most of us anyway
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Joe20:38:26 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
This is also refering to a blockchain where less than a 3rd have voted, and a significantly smaller amount than that understand or have any interest in pursuing the buying and selling of RAM. I think once it becomes more streamlined, RAM will be abundantly available.
I agree the ram market action we're seeing now will calm down in time. It will naturally level out as more ram is added, people lose their shirt, the risks become more apparent etc the whole idea will become generally less lucrative because there will be more of it with less volatility
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Nevil H20:38:45 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Check in the pinned message.
I don't see any resources listed there
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Gavin20:38:54 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Anonymous_82
Finnaly! Fu** sick! many people stop do airdroops because of RAM shorts
you wouldn't happen to be the guy i saw debating this on GitHub would you..?
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Jason Willis20:39:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The way I see it is, Devs make their dapp, do their airdrop, promote their dapp. People see value in their dapp, in turn hopefully giving value to their airdropped coins, also giving a significant value to the large number of their coins they held back, ultimately funding the devs to supply their own ram - i.e. Buy EOS, in turn driving up the overall price of EOS. This is all based on IF the product or idea is marketable and appreciated by any community. Obviously the more adopted it is as an idea or the more valued it is as a product, the more value you will see there.
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Gavin20:39:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
mountain_cloud
I agree the ram market action we're seeing now will calm down in time. It will naturally level out as more ram is added, people lose their shirt, the risks become more apparent etc the whole idea will become generally less lucrative because there will be more of it with less volatility
still doesn't prevent insider RAM trading by BPs
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Anonymous20:39:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
you wouldn't happen to be the guy i saw debating this on GitHub would you..?
not for sure I do not have account there! But it was disgracefull see add Ram to the BPs are f** cheap and epople stop to do airdroops because of it
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Joe Jordan20:40:27 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
LojaBit
nice list, tyvm
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Joe20:40:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
still doesn't prevent insider RAM trading by BPs
nope and some of them are unashamed unscrupulous twats
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Jason Willis20:41:03 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
I get it, but i see things fundamentally different. I shouldn't have to pay extra for something special.. EOS is supposed to be special enough already.. or that' show it was sold to most of us anyway
Wait, so you expect to receive something more for nothing? I still feel that it definitely IS something special, regardless of these issues you have with it, or not. Do you feel this particular problem is a dealbreaker for you?
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Tom20:41:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Mr j wrote that to me There was a DNS hack with an ISP, totally out of the hands of thr MEW team. MEW traffic was redirected to phishing page. Installing metamask would flag this.
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Tom20:41:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
How can i read about that?
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Jason Willis20:42:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Nevil H
I don't see any resources listed there
https://t.me/joinchat/EaEnSUPktgfoI-XPfMYtcQ
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Tom20:42:08 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
And is that happened to Others too?
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Gavin20:42:38 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Wait, so you expect to receive something more for nothing? I still feel that it definitely IS something special, regardless of these issues you have with it, or not. Do you feel this particular problem is a dealbreaker for you?
i still feel it is special... and i don't see it as something more for nothing. I was always under the impression that staked eos was required for dapps not ram. I want to create a couple dapps which is why i got in. Now that i have to have something else entirely seperate I
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Jason Willis20:42:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
still doesn't prevent insider RAM trading by BPs
I feel like that just can't be avoided regardless. The same can be said for whales getting a kickback for voting for a BP.
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Gavin20:42:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
am not sure if EOS will make sense for me
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Joe20:43:29 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
am not sure if EOS will make sense for me
does it matter when it's at $8 and has massive potential?
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Gavin20:43:46 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It does
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Gavin20:43:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
the unpredictability of it
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Joe20:43:53 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
yes I guess it does matter to some people
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Gavin20:44:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
EOS price is already very difficult to predict
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Andrey Y20:44:14 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Instead of making ram price growing as less ram available, can they just fix its price on average?
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Gavin20:44:20 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
now you add another thing that money must be spent on in addition
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Gavin20:44:30 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
and i have no idea if bps are going to add more and crash prices
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Gavin20:44:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
so why should i buy now for my dapps?
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Gavin20:44:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
only to get hosed
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Gavin20:44:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i dunno man
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Gavin20:44:52 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i'm just saying im dissapointed
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Jason Willis20:44:58 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i still feel it is special... and i don't see it as something more for nothing. I was always under the impression that staked eos was required for dapps not ram. I want to create a couple dapps which is why i got in. Now that i have to have something else entirely seperate I
Hmm...with that in mind, do you think it could help you to restructure how your dapp operates? Would the dapps you are wanting to create even be heavily RAM dependant?
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Gavin20:45:01 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i have dapp ideas that i think are great and this is deterringme
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Jim20:45:13 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
aeondrift
My proposal to fight back against whale self-voting. I still think my earlier suggestion of logscaling voting power above 1000EOS will be an effective way to prevent whales voting themselves as BP in and not putting the work and mia from ECAF meetings. This way, if a whale wishes to self-vote, then let them tediously split and try to manage thousands of accounts, each with still a substantial amount of EOS if they wise to maximize their voting power. They will of course have to then make sure to keep all those accounts active, and revote constantly to keep themselves as BP. Adding on to my post earlier about log scaling, another suggestion I had made previously on top of this is to introduce a criteria whereby a minimum of independent voters would need to be met. Could even throw in a geographical diversity of voters requirement. Its not fool proof, but adds layers of tediousness and hopefully also cost against self voting whales. More layers of anti-oligarchy protection could be gradually introduced, and to create a more democratically balanced ecosystem, where even those with 100 EOS tokens have some say (against the whales)." People with higher financial stake in EOS will still get higher voting power. Whales with one million coins will have six times the voting power compared to those with one coin for a log10 scaling function. Could switch to other types of log scaling or other less harsh functions too, to find the balance btwn financial stake based voting-power and the threat of massive whales being able to control the system by virtue of the resource they have to bend it to their will. Also if any whale is caught trying to game the system, and if they get hacked while trying to bot managed their thousands of accounts, then make it such that their funds will risk being burned with accord to the constitution. We need to start somewhere. Implement these layers to make it difficult and requiring more effort for whales to game the system, study it, come up with more solutions, and add to and improve the existing protection gradually, inch by inch, etc. But somethings needs to be done against self-voting whales now than later. — Basically my suggestion was simply to force self-voting whales into risking their investments (i.e. needing to manage their funds across thousands of addresses via bots) + the effort needed to to ensure those self-votes appear sufficiently diversified different regions of the world, and so on. Perhaps making it compulsory for people to spend 2/3 of their votes on BPs below the top 21 would be another layer of protection to consider. Or perhaps limiting renewed votes completely to only BP candidates below the top 21, which will force BPs to rotate! i.e. when people renew their votes, they will have to consider alt BPs.. hence more BPs will have a chance of earning more to maintain their servers, plus each BPs (standby/active) can be trailed and tested by the community over time and their performances be gauged during their active phase. === Clarification (again): This certainly is not intended as a perfect solution, but a start towards fighting back, and increasing the risk of self-voting as the whales will then have to resort to bot manage their crazy number of split accounts to maximize their voting power, and probably with some cost too. And on top of it, other layers of discouraging self-voting by whales have been suggested, and more can be added to and built on top of it, and evolve as we go. ~ transhumanio
Interesting. I can see something along these lines as beneficial long term as well as the interim.
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Roshan - EOS Authority20:45:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
ArcFlash
Does anyone know of any tool that will monitor your address and send you an alert if your EOS get unstaked?
see https://eosauthority.com/alerts for email and http://telegram.me/eosauthoritybot for our telegram bot
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Daniel Larimer20:45:42 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
Hmm...with that in mind, do you think it could help you to restructure how your dapp operates? Would the dapps you are wanting to create even be heavily RAM dependant?
note that regardless of which app platform you use, RAM will be a constraint on performance and costs.
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Shae20:46:00 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i have dapp ideas that i think are great and this is deterringme
I think RAM is an area that is going to have a lot of attention, and will need some changes resolved before things will go smoothly. Maybe wait it out and see what happens.
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Gavin20:46:02 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i don't fully understand it
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Gavin20:46:07 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i'll admit that right away
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Chris Storvold20:46:12 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
telepound
see https://eosauthority.com/alerts for email and http://telegram.me/eosauthoritybot for our telegram bot
Thanks, saw on Reddit and signed up.
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Gavin20:46:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
note that regardless of which app platform you use, RAM will be a constraint on performance and costs.
Dan, why was the choice made to not tie it to EOS tokens on a % basis of network?
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Gavin20:47:06 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I'm sure i'm missing something
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Gavin20:47:10 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i just don't know what
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Daniel Larimer20:47:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
the fact that supply/demand of RAM and EOS are independent
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Daniel Larimer20:47:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Attempting to separate EOS speculati
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Anonymous20:47:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
note that regardless of which app platform you use, RAM will be a constraint on performance and costs.
Dan thank you so much to update us with ur intention regarding the ocnstitution! loots of news out and price going up! U can see that is the right thing and everyone is happy
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Jason Willis20:47:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
note that regardless of which app platform you use, RAM will be a constraint on performance and costs.
But one can be preemptive and attempt to streamline a dapp to make it less RAM dependant, or no? Sorry, not an experience developer myself. But would that be a possibility, in theory?
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Anonymous20:47:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
why EOS Park is OFF???
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Gavin20:48:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
i honestly hope all the people speculating on RAM get hosed
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Joe20:48:35 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I'm sure some will
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Gavin20:48:51 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Attempting to separate EOS speculation from increasing costs
I can understand this to an extent, but it seems the speculation has an undesirable effect nonetheless
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Shae20:49:11 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Attempting to separate EOS speculation from increasing costs
But instead it just created RAM speculating, which is compounded by EOS speculating?
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H M20:49:41 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
apcuddling
But one can be preemptive and attempt to streamline a dapp to make it less RAM dependant, or no? Sorry, not an experience developer myself. But would that be a possibility, in theory?
of course
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Shae20:49:48 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i honestly hope all the people speculating on RAM get hosed
I do too, but if BPs have to announce when they're increasing RAM, they'll all just sell immediately before, and buy it back once it's cheap, and watch it rise again.
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Cryptographer20:49:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
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Jason Willis20:49:49 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i honestly hope all the people speculating on RAM get hosed
No doubt that will happen with more EOS holders utlizing all of the tools to the full extent of their capabilities.
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Nedu20:49:50 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
i honestly hope all the people speculating on RAM get hosed
I dont trust all these chinese BPs, they have no morals i vet you one or two of them are in on it
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Gavin20:50:32 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
whoaa... lets' not get all nationalistic
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Gavin20:50:34 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
haha
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Joe20:50:47 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
yeah it was a bit edgy..
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Jason Willis20:50:55 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
nedupaul
I dont trust all these chinese BPs, they have no morals i vet you one or two of them are in on it
Whoa....kinda harsh.
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Jim20:51:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I'm against nationalism as well, but the Chinese have a history of not playing by the rules
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Jim20:51:36 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
It is wise to be cautious
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Jason Willis20:51:59 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I like that we can have discussions where we disagree but at the same time we all spot some nonsense all at the same time. haha.
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Gavin20:52:21 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
HUMANS have a history of not playing by the rules
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Joe20:52:33 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
whoop whoop alert 🀣
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Jason Willis20:52:37 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
jaklias
I'm against nationalism as well, but the Chinese have a history of not playing by the rules
I mean....the same could be said about almost any country at some point in history.
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Jason Willis20:52:44 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
HUMANS have a history of not playing by the rules
+1
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Zachary Williams20:53:05 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
The end game for cryptocurrency and blockchain especially EOS is a global governance that everyone can trust, but if you dont want to bee ruled by EOS youll be able to live under Steem or Ethereum or other blockchains,... but inter blockchain coimmunication will be what lets the global government work, and no its not a NWO illuminati plan
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Shae20:53:08 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Gelvandorf
HUMANS have a history of not playing by the rules
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Jim20:53:23 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
For sure, but you need to look no further than patents to see a blatant disregard by China, well above and beyond most places
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Jim20:53:39 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
Truth is, we all need to be playing by the same rules, and we're not
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Jakob20:53:40 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
is any BP representant here?
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Jim20:54:04 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
I'm a big fan of global trade, but when you have parties that are playing by a different set of rules, it creates some big problems
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Gavin20:54:09 - 27 Jun 2018 [UTC]
daniellarimer
Attempting to separate EOS speculation from increasing costs
If it was tied and speculation happened on the tokens wouldn't this just give bps and work fund more profit to reinvest into the network based on the tokens they are earning having more buying power?
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